The genre you feel least fun playing

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#51 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (8235 posts) -

@ The_Last_Ride

None of what you said is even remotely specific, its way too open for interpretation, tactical gameplay ? Deep story ? Progression System ? What exactly does all that mean ? both FIFA and Command and Conquer have tactical gameplay, too different games, the term is abit too vague to be an identifying feature. Now FPS, thats a genre, you aim and shoot from a 1st person perspective, nothing vague about that. :D or racing games, you race stuff, pretty simple. But RPGs.... Even with all those things present they can still be applied to pretty much everything. Just like The Open World formula.

And heres what your little "Techopedia" says "The video game RPGs started out

very similar to paper-and-pen games, minus the

dice and with the addition of animated battles, but with the turn-based menu combat intact" sounds to me even from the get go, that the 1st RPG was a hybrid game. It was a like other pen and paper games except with Role Playing Rules.

It also goes on to say "Defining RPGs is very challenging due to the

range of hybrid genres that have RPG elements" see they can be applied to everything..... You know...... Like a formula.

#52 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (8235 posts) -

"Other

genre's have borrowed this from that genre and it's

not a formula"

and how exactly do you borrow a vague concept like Tactical Gameplay or a Deep Story ? If you said platforming then I'd agree, because its pretty clear that about hopping back and forth across platforms. But tactical gameplay and good characters ? You don't really borrow it, I think you're reaching a bit too far to try and make things fit together. Maybe it is you whos having difficulty understanding.

#53 Posted by The_Last_Ride (68569 posts) -

"Other

genre's have borrowed this from that genre and it's

not a formula"

and how exactly do you borrow a vague concept like Tactical Gameplay or a Deep Story ? If you said platforming then I'd agree, because its pretty clear that about hopping back and forth across platforms. But tactical gameplay and good characters ? You don't really borrow it, I think you're reaching a bit too far to try and make things fit together. Maybe it is you whos having difficulty understanding.

The RPG have always had stories, games like pong or Mario never had story. That's borrowed from RPG, the progression and crafting system is also taken from RPG genre. But i don't think i will convince you off this view so lets move on

Damn a lot of people hate racing sims here

#54 Posted by gpuFX16 (1296 posts) -

The RPG have always had stories, games like pong or Mario never had story. That's borrowed from RPG, the progression and crafting system is also taken from RPG genre. But i don't think i will convince you off this view so lets move on

Damn a lot of people hate racing sims here

I happen to enjoy them quite a bit. I really like cars and international motorsport, so I find both racing sims and arcade racers entertaining. (I like Forza about as much as I like Burnout)

#55 Posted by The_Last_Ride (68569 posts) -

@gpuFX16 said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

The RPG have always had stories, games like pong or Mario never had story. That's borrowed from RPG, the progression and crafting system is also taken from RPG genre. But i don't think i will convince you off this view so lets move on

Damn a lot of people hate racing sims here

I happen to enjoy them quite a bit. I really like cars and international motorsport, so I find both racing sims and arcade racers entertaining. (I like Forza about as much as I like Burnout)

I also like it a lot, but people here don't seem to like the genre though :(

#56 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (8235 posts) -

@ The_Last_Ride heres another cut out from you techopedia RPG Commandments: "Levels or character statistics that could be

improved over the course of the game

A menu-based combat system

A central quest that runs throughout the game as

a storyline"

Its got quests, not necessarily a story, but the experience and events can be interpreted and retold as a story, just like playing journey or going out and getting drunk off your ass. Its actully more like "Narrative Interpretation". See ?, I managed too concluded a more precise defining characteristic than you could, hehe :).

"But i don't think i will

convince you off this view so lets move on"

you can convince me, you just have to ignore everything you've been spoon fed and trust your own logic to come up with your own analysis, come on, you're a big a boy now ! Show some god damn initiative ! :D

and racing sims suck, I think I already explained why earlier.

#57 Edited by loafofgame (358 posts) -

@turtlethetaffer said:

@loafofgame: How can you say you don't like the genre when you've never played one? There are a good amount of JRPGs that don't have a "Japanese" art style. Also, to say you don't like Japanese music clearly tells me you haven't ever heard any good stuff of it. JRPGs have some of the best music in gaming, generally speaking.

Fair enough. I could have known my generalisation would get me into trouble. I should have known better. I apologise. But I did sort of imply my opinion was weak by admitting never having played a JRPG. I have watched streams on a significant amount of JRPG's though, but I didn't want to take them into the equation, since well, games aren't movies (even though they can be perfectly watchable) and these streams don't give a complete view on the game (but still enough to decide not to spend any money on them). None of these streams ever made me want to try these games, so I won't take the risk.

Also, I never questioned the 'quality' of the music in these games. I just said it doesn't appeal to me. And I'm very sorry, but stating that me not liking the music clearly means I haven't heard the good stuff is a very rash statement. I hear a lot of people praising the music of games like FF and I can understand why people like it. That's also the reason why I've actually listened to a fair amount of JRPG soundtracks. Without going into too much detail (and again, heavily generalising to get the point across), most of this music is strongly influenced by western classical (and also pop and jazz) music, but with something added to it. I think it's the fact that it's a non-western perspective on western music (I realise the danger of this statement), which is fascinating to examine, but which also makes the music sound like a caricature of or a parody on western music (to me, that is). Again, this isn't a bad thing and for some this difference is exactly what makes it appealing, but I don't like it. I guess it points too much towards the limitations and conventions of the western musical idiom that I'm so used to. And again, I'm probably generalising a lot, so don't read this as some claim of the absolute truth. It's my experience and nothing more. And I admit that experience is limited.

I admit that I might have a too generalised view of JRPG's. And I apologise. I usually do not generalise this much.

Anyway, please suggest titles and music that might disprove my generalisation and if they do I'll fully admit I was wrong.

@Chickan_117 said:

The problem with the category "JRPG" is defining what people mean. RPG is a genre and, by Japanese style, I assume they mean either anime styled or turn based. For example; Dragon's Dogma is a JRPG but you wouldn't find many people calling it that.

Yeah, I should have been more careful. I usually shy away from generalisations. I was indeed thinking of the anime style, which of course does not define the genre. Turn based isn't a problem, however.

#58 Edited by Lucianu (9285 posts) -

Single player modern military shooters usually bore me to tears after a short wile because there is nothing interesting to keep my attention.

#59 Posted by Ovirew (6234 posts) -

I know this might not answer the question, but I usually don't get into games that are really competitive, or else I don't get into the competitive aspects of most games that have one.

So usually I don't get into FPS games with a heavy focus on multiplayer, or fighting games, or RTS games. There are some exceptions.

#60 Edited by The_Last_Ride (68569 posts) -

@Ovirew said:

I know this might not answer the question, but I usually don't get into games that are really competitive, or else I don't get into the competitive aspects of most games that have one.

So usually I don't get into FPS games with a heavy focus on multiplayer, or fighting games, or RTS games. There are some exceptions.

I usually steer clear of them aswell. Because people usually just exploit or cheat or even trash talk a lot. I don't like it at all. I like one fighting game so far, but i just suck at it. But i totally get what you mean

#61 Posted by Smashbrossive50 (2864 posts) -

I don't really like to play something with the element of RPG,even though I insist playing it(thanks to Sonic Chronicles and Skyrim)

MMOs being the worst of them all, can't even do exploration because of those dumb "quests" and the traffic was like 1 or 2 terabytes. the characters don't appeal either,look at them closely,artworks depict them as tall figures,in reality,they were like the size of a thumbnail,doesn't make sense. and if you want to master them all,you have to be a over lvl. 100.insanity in every turn,their updates usually take about weeks or months.

so I suggest that MMOs are just like social gaming,no action,just loads of chats preventing connection

#62 Posted by bezza2011 (2165 posts) -

First person shooters - i just can't stand them, not knocking them but i just can't play them, i put it down to the controller of the ps3 but i'm just not so keen, but i did enjoy Deus Ex.

RPG's don't do it for me either, but i think it may just be alot of the RPG's which are good the stroy and world it's in doesn't interest me rather than the genre

#63 Posted by turtlethetaffer (16273 posts) -

@loafofgame: There's nothing to apologize for, just saying that you can't really say you dislike a genre if you haven't played it.

Anyways, one of the best recent examples of a great JRPG is Xenoblade. It's really different from a lot of other games in the genre.

Although, if you told me what exactly you dislike about the genre, I might be able to help out more and give better suggestions. Is it the leveling? Random encounters? (although many modern ones have done away with those). Battle systems? What?

#64 Posted by xWoW_Rougex (2747 posts) -

Many sayinG RPGS o,O That's crazy!

My vote goes to driving simulators a la Forza/Gran Turismo. It's beyond boring, especially since I have zero care for cars. People are all like "oh man I can't wait to drive a FT-Z 200X on the most boring looking map ever. But each time I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna tweak up the hydroweirdname-customization with 1 until I feel that really feel good sweetspot when you use the breaks. ".

I fall asleep when people talk about that. To me. it's _______SO______ boring

#65 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (8235 posts) -

@ xWoW_Rougex

You're drunk ! Go lie down.

#66 Edited by CasualGamer36x (50 posts) -

Sports games and racing sims... I like if not love all the other genres. Give me a game and I'll play it!

#67 Edited by ristactionjakso (5622 posts) -

Racing games that are to realistic. Last one I really enjoyed was Tokyo Extreme Racer Zero on ps2. It was an amazing game.

Basketball and football games too.

#68 Edited by loafofgame (358 posts) -

@loafofgame: There's nothing to apologize for, just saying that you can't really say you dislike a genre if you haven't played it.

Anyways, one of the best recent examples of a great JRPG is Xenoblade. It's really different from a lot of other games in the genre.

Although, if you told me what exactly you dislike about the genre, I might be able to help out more and give better suggestions. Is it the leveling? Random encounters? (although many modern ones have done away with those). Battle systems? What?

Well, there is something to apologise for in this case, even if it's just to myself. In the comments I always preach about how you shouldn't generalise and how you should always construct balanced arguments, so when I contradict my own principles, I feel I should apologise. I shouldn't have made the comment in the first place. It is even going against the title of this thread, "The genre you feel least fun playing".

As for the reasons, I gave them in my first comment. And I realise those reasons might be flawed and limited, but I tried to partially explain them in my second comment. I know visual style and music shouldn't be the main criteria when judging whether or not to buy or try a game, but in this case they are pretty important to me. I guess Xenoblade is the typical example of what I don't like about what I thought JRPG's are. The anime style, the bright colours, the giant weapons and damage numbers, the often weird voice acting, the often uptempo and strongly melodic music that is a mix between pop and classical music, the sparkly UI sounds, etc. With that I do not mean to say these elements are bad, they just don't appeal to me personally.

But as you'll probably rightly point out, these reasons shouldn't really influence my decision to try a game that much. All the things you mention are gameplay elements and I can't really say I dislike those in these games. But well, I have to make choices and I just don't see myself enjoying games that are presented in this way, since visual presentation and sound are important to me. But again, you're absolutely right I shouldn't have mentioned a genre I haven't actually played. And I'll immediately confess that I'm more of an experience gamer than a gameplay gamer, so maybe that's the reason...

#69 Posted by turtlethetaffer (16273 posts) -

@loafofgame: Might want to check out Radiant Historia. The art style is more gothic than anime, has a great orchestrated soundtrack and a cool battle system.

Or if you really want a basic one, try Pokemon. Despite the "bright colors" many of your qualms aren't present in the series.

Many Atlus RPGs, despite their anime art styles, have more orchestrated music and tend to be darker in tone.

#70 Posted by loafofgame (358 posts) -

@turtlethetaffer: Thanks for the effort. I feel kind of bad and awkward for saying this at such a late stage, but I only have a pc... So that gives me even less reason to mention JRPG's. Please just ignore me from now on. ;-P

#71 Posted by thebest31406 (3222 posts) -

Sports. American football games in particular.

#72 Posted by wiouds (4955 posts) -

Fighting game and 2d platforming.

#73 Posted by Metamania (11949 posts) -

That's easy. Sports and strategy games.

#74 Edited by LJS9502_basic (149332 posts) -

Sports and racing.

#75 Edited by insanegame377 (332 posts) -

RTS, Racing Games, Sports Games that aren't FIFA, and recently I've started to fall out of love with FPS games, as they are all just too similar.

#76 Edited by Tqricardinho (340 posts) -

I don't have much fun with racing games (Need for Speed, GRID, Blur) and strategy games (Total War)

#77 Posted by withe1982 (450 posts) -

Racing games/sims: I get board after about an hour of every racer I've ever played. It just doesn't hold my interest as IMHO once you've went around a track/course once that's it really.

Fighting games: Mainly because I'm not very good at them. They all generally dissolve into button mashing for me and, as above, after about an hour it just feels like I've done everything.

RTS: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

#78 Posted by sukraj (21470 posts) -

MMO'S

Sports games

Fighting games

JRPG's

#79 Edited by Bumblebee1138 (44 posts) -

Strategy Games. It's SOOOOO boring to click these tiny insect armies and watch them do something.

And of cause sports games.

#80 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (8235 posts) -

@ withe1982 "IMHO once you've went around

a track/course once that's it really." "it just feels like I've done everything."

Have you thought about changing this mindset, could open up a whole new library for. Nothing stays new forever, confine yourself too much to one genre and even dejavu will creep into games you haven't even played yet.

#81 Posted by dagreenfish (1817 posts) -

I find FPS games and most action games to be insanely boring.

#82 Edited by CoquiNegro (173 posts) -

I'm too open mind to say such a thing. For me its up to the game, and not the genre. I've played sport sims that I've had a lot of enjoyment with, and I've played strategy games (which I adore) that haven't fancied me. Not sure if I have a least, or favorite genre.

#83 Posted by Evil_Saluki (4870 posts) -

These days it's straight out first person shooters. Nothing wrong with first person perspective, but when the game is just plowing through levels of shooting people then there is good chance I won't pick the game up.

I'm not totally blanking the genre, I keep my eyes open but there is a lot of stuff such as Call of Duty games which I know not to bother with.

#84 Posted by eagle63 (533 posts) -

strategy and sports games.im just not into them.

#85 Posted by Bumblebee1138 (44 posts) -

Strategy Games. It's SOOOOO boring to click these tiny insect armies and watch them do something.

And of cause sports games.

#86 Posted by I-AM-N00B (410 posts) -

I previously disliked JRPGs more than any other genre but recently I've broadened my horizons and have been trying games I wouldn't normally, and I ended up enjoying a JRPG game. I'd say now the main genre I am against is the RTS genre, and also games with turn-based combat.

#87 Posted by The_Last_Ride (68569 posts) -

Damn sports and Racing seem to get their ass handed to them

#88 Posted by DanishSnow (67 posts) -

Sport genre.

#89 Posted by Sword-Demon (6849 posts) -

Racing sims and realistic sports games

#90 Posted by zipassassin (7 posts) -

RTS games and sports games. I like MOBA games, such as LOL

#91 Edited by The_Last_Ride (68569 posts) -

I don't have much fun with racing games (Need for Speed, GRID, Blur) and strategy games (Total War)

just curious, have you tried games like Forza or Gran Turismo?

#92 Edited by Parado_xx (80 posts) -

Well, I guess I've never been a big fan of simulators. I used to enjoy a lot of racing games when I was younger, but nowadays I don't find them interesting at all. Fighting games have never really been my cup of tea either, although I guess I should try out a few more games in that genre before judging all of them. I'm not a big fan at all when it comes to multiplayer (generally playing online), so MMOs would also be out of the question.

#93 Edited by touchscreenpad (220 posts) -

I hate sports games and turn-based games. Except racing games, I like racing games but not much. Only a select few whose driving simulation feel okay with me.

I also don't enjoy that gameplay/genre like in FF9/12 where there's that gauge-thing, also the point and click games but sometimes I reconsider. There are certain point and click games that I play, though I don't enjoy playing it as much compared to my favorite genre.

#94 Posted by Renegade_Fury (16933 posts) -

Stealth, and anything that's cutscene heavy and/or plays very slowly.

#95 Posted by JBStone1981 (13 posts) -

The one genre I simply can't get into is MMO. I know that's a bit broad, but I hate the idea of relying on other players to accomplish goals, and the stories are usually either by-the-numbers genre crap or non-existent. Or both.

#96 Posted by Smashbrossive50 (2864 posts) -

@JBStone1981 : you have the same taste as I am. I can't seem to like it at all,if you visit my country,you should start hating the genre,because people here were drugged by MMOs and all things large,seriously,even kids aged below 13 played them without a single stop,I heard this story from a long time ago. this is not from the same country as I am,but it's worth a try.

this article is definitely old,but it's a life lesson for us to stop playing "MMO"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096128/Gamer-lies-dead-Taiwan-internet-cafe-9-HOURS-notices.html

#97 Posted by 187umKILLAH (1334 posts) -

Sports games and car racing sims.

#98 Posted by blackknight467 (10 posts) -

I would have to say sports games at the moment. I have a lot of fun playing the silly / cartoony sports games, but i haven't seen those in a while.

#99 Posted by iHarlequin (1789 posts) -

Fighting games. Never cared for any of them, be it Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat or King of Fighters.

#100 Posted by FinalFighters (1302 posts) -

Strategy games like Age of empires and total war: Rome II..I just cant get into them, they are Sooo boring.

Also how come all your Review threads are getting locked, tc?