The final insult to Sam Fisher. Actor revealed for Splinter Cell movie

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#1 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18325 posts) -

http://www.gamespot.com/news/tom-hardy-to-star-in-splinter-cell-movie-6400065

Ok, this has been a terrible year for us Splinter Cell fans. Not only the new game looks like a third person Call of Duty, not only they replaced 10 years-running Sam Fisher's voice Michael Ironside with some bland nobody half the required age, but now they announced the actor chosen to play Sam in the upcoming movie is this f*ckface:

Tom_Hardy_16.jpg

Does he look like a rugged 50 years old veteran? No. He looks like some 35 years old assh*le you would see in a Gucci commercial. Oh and the icing on the cake: the script is being written by the guy who wrote AEon Flux. Beautiful, simply f*cking beautiful.

#2 Posted by Human-after-all (2968 posts) -
The actor is actually quite good, I agree, however, on the writer.
#3 Posted by Rattlesnake_8 (18368 posts) -
I don't know the guy above.. whats his name and what movies has he been in?
#4 Posted by LoG-Sacrament (20397 posts) -
:lol: yeah, it's a big slap on the face to have a great actor star in the movie. other adaptations could be so lucky.
#5 Posted by LoG-Sacrament (20397 posts) -
I don't know the guy above.. whats his name and what movies has he been in?Rattlesnake_8
its tom hardy. he's had action roles like bane in the dark knight rises, he's had legitimate dramatic roles like ricki tarr in tinker tailor soldier spy, and he's done a lot in between. he'll get the voice right too as he's done american accents before and A LOT of his characters have a deep action-hero quality to their voices.
#6 Posted by punkpunker (3321 posts) -

an insult? no, its the only thing left redeemable about the splinter cell franchise.

#7 Posted by JoGoSo (455 posts) -
I don't know the guy above.. whats his name and what movies has he been in?Rattlesnake_8
Tom Hardy. He's good and a good pick. Known roles are Inception, Dark Knight Rises, & Warrior
#8 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18325 posts) -
 Good pick my ass
#9 Posted by JoGoSo (455 posts) -
[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] Good pick my ass

Movies are rarely good on the basis of someone looking like the character. You may be surprised to learn that the movie will also likely deviate a bit from the videogame.
#10 Posted by thebest31406 (3347 posts) -
Lol f*ckface. Hardy once again plays a role that isn't true to the character.
#11 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18325 posts) -
You may be surprised to learn that the movie will also likely deviate a bit from the videogame.JoGoSo
No sh*t. That's the main reason game-movie adaptations invariably suck.
#12 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

This thread is complete utter FAIL. Tom Hardy is an incredible actor, that someone of this caliber will even do a game movie is incredible. PERFECT pick.

#13 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

http://www.gamespot.com/news/tom-hardy-to-star-in-splinter-cell-movie-6400065

Ok, this has been a terrible year for us Splinter Cell fans. Not only the new game looks like a third person Call of Duty, not only they replaced 10 years-running Sam Fisher's voice Michael Ironside with some bland nobody half the required age, but now they announced the actor chosen to play Sam in the upcoming movie is this f*ckface:

Tom_Hardy_16.jpg

Does he look like a rugged 50 years old veteran? No. He looks like some 35 years old assh*le you would see in a Gucci commercial. Oh and the icing on the cake: the script is being written by the guy who wrote AEon Flux. Beautiful, simply f*cking beautiful.

Black_Knight_00

you have GOT to be kidding me! This guy is a phenomenal actor. It doesnt matter what he looks like in real life as long as he can get into character. And time and time again he has proven he can get into any character. Im sorry BlackKnight, but this is a fantastic cast and you are dead wrong on this one.

P.S Have you seen what Daniel Day Lewis looks like in real life? He looks like mother f*cking Ralph Lauren himself. Then look at what he did in Gangs of New York and There Will Be Blood. Calm down.

#14 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="JoGoSo"]You may be surprised to learn that the movie will also likely deviate a bit from the videogame.Black_Knight_00
No sh*t. That's the main reason game-movie adaptations invariably suck.

Video game adaptations suck because the material they are based on is sh*t. You think video games stories are good? They are awful piece of sh*t that wont ever get their own tv show even on mother f*cking Lifetime. Splinter Cell is the same way. The story is cliched, stupid, ridiculous and unbelievably contrived. I swear to god i had no idea wtf was going on in Conviction and i f*cking love that game.

People who hate movie adaptations seem to forget that the source material is incredibly sh*tty in the first place. This isnt the same as hollywood making movies out the superbly written Harry potter books or the LOTR trilogy, this is hollywood trying to make sense out of the ridiculous game stories video game developers shove down our throats year after year.

I cry myself to sleep after playing games like Borderlands, Rage, Call of Duty and 99% of the games out there because a two year old could've written a story better than these f*cking a-holes calling themselves video game writers.

#15 Posted by Metamania (11973 posts) -

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="JoGoSo"]You may be surprised to learn that the movie will also likely deviate a bit from the videogame.S0lidSnake

No sh*t. That's the main reason game-movie adaptations invariably suck.

Video game adaptations suck because the material they are based on is sh*t. You think video games stories are good? They are awful piece of sh*t that wont ever get their own tv show even on mother f*cking Lifetime. Splinter Cell is the same way. The story is cliched, stupid, ridiculous and unbelievably contrived. I swear to god i had no idea wtf was going on in Conviction and i f*cking love that game.

People who hate movie adaptations seem to forget that the source material is incredibly sh*tty in the first place. This isnt the same as hollywood making movies out the superbly written Harry potter books or the LOTR trilogy, this is hollywood trying to make sense out of the ridiculous game stories video game developers shove down our throats year after year.

I cry myself to sleep after playing games like Borderlands, Rage, Call of Duty and 99% of the games out there because a two year old could've written a story better than these f*cking a-holes calling themselves video game writers.

Do you think you could write a better story? I'm not offended or mad or anything like that when I ask that, I'm just curious.

#16 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] No sh*t. That's the main reason game-movie adaptations invariably suck.Metamania

Video game adaptations suck because the material they are based on is sh*t. You think video games stories are good? They are awful piece of sh*t that wont ever get their own tv show even on mother f*cking Lifetime. Splinter Cell is the same way. The story is cliched, stupid, ridiculous and unbelievably contrived. I swear to god i had no idea wtf was going on in Conviction and i f*cking love that game.

People who hate movie adaptations seem to forget that the source material is incredibly sh*tty in the first place. This isnt the same as hollywood making movies out the superbly written Harry potter books or the LOTR trilogy, this is hollywood trying to make sense out of the ridiculous game stories video game developers shove down our throats year after year.

I cry myself to sleep after playing games like Borderlands, Rage, Call of Duty and 99% of the games out there because a two year old could've written a story better than these f*cking a-holes calling themselves video game writers.

Do you think you could write a better story? I'm not offended or mad or anything like that when I ask that, I'm just curious.

It doesn't matter. Im not being paid to write a story. Im not in any position to write a story for a game. These games make hundreds of millions of dollars and they can easily afford to have a decent story than the sh*t we get every year.

#17 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18325 posts) -

This thread is complete utter FAIL. Tom Hardy is an incredible actor, that someone of this caliber will even do a game movie is incredible. PERFECT pick.

dvader654
Look (and S0lid too), I just can't get behind choosing a 35 years old to play a 50 years old. It just does not work, unless you want to rewrite the character entirely and completely alienate the hardcore fanbase. Just because an actor is good (and I'm sure Lady F*ckface here has played fantastic roles before and is a great actor, though -my bad- I'd never heard of him), it doesn't justify picking a guy that's 15 years too young for the part. The same applies to the guy that now voices Sam in the games. Come on, they want to appeal to the Call of Duty fratboy demographic and they know a middle aged character wouldn't click with them, so they pick pretty boys instead. No matter how good they are, it's a kick in the balls to the source material, good or bad as it may be.
#18 Posted by Metamania (11973 posts) -

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

Video game adaptations suck because the material they are based on is sh*t. You think video games stories are good? They are awful piece of sh*t that wont ever get their own tv show even on mother f*cking Lifetime. Splinter Cell is the same way. The story is cliched, stupid, ridiculous and unbelievably contrived. I swear to god i had no idea wtf was going on in Conviction and i f*cking love that game.

People who hate movie adaptations seem to forget that the source material is incredibly sh*tty in the first place. This isnt the same as hollywood making movies out the superbly written Harry potter books or the LOTR trilogy, this is hollywood trying to make sense out of the ridiculous game stories video game developers shove down our throats year after year.

I cry myself to sleep after playing games like Borderlands, Rage, Call of Duty and 99% of the games out there because a two year old could've written a story better than these f*cking a-holes calling themselves video game writers.

S0lidSnake

Do you think you could write a better story? I'm not offended or mad or anything like that when I ask that, I'm just curious.

It doesn't matter. Im not being paid to write a story. Im not in any position to write a story for a game. These games make hundreds of millions of dollars and they can easily afford to have a decent story than the sh*t we get every year.

OK, you say it doesn't matter, but if you were paid to write a story for any game, do you think you could better than what we've seen?

#19 Posted by wiouds (5084 posts) -

One problem with many movies base off games is that they follow the games too much.

#20 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

This thread is complete utter FAIL. Tom Hardy is an incredible actor, that someone of this caliber will even do a game movie is incredible. PERFECT pick.

Black_Knight_00

Look (and S0lid too), I just can't get behind choosing a 35 years old to play a 50 years old. It just does not work, unless you want to rewrite the character entirely and completely alienate the hardcore fanbase. Just because an actor is good (and I'm sure Lady F*ckface here has played fantastic roles before and is a great actor, though -my bad- I'd never heard of him), it doesn't justify picking a guy that's 15 years too young for the part. The same applies to the guy that now voices Sam in the games. Come on, they want to appeal to the Call of Duty fratboy demographic and they know a middle aged character wouldn't click with them, so they pick pretty boys instead. No matter how good they are, it's a kick in the balls to the source material, good or bad as it may be.

Age has nothing to do with it. Maybe they are doing an origin story? Even if they werent, a 15 year difference isnt that hard to fake in movies.

Regardless, no point in arguing since you dont even know who this actor is. Here are some of the roles he's been in.

The Dark Knight Rises

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Warrior

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Inception

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RocknRolla

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I refuse to believe you havent seen any of these movies. So you have seen him and still didnt recognize him. That just proves that he loses himself in the character just like all good actors.

#21 Posted by IndianaPwns39 (5037 posts) -

Tom Hardy is a phenomenal actor. Everyone ragged on him for not looking like Bane too, but he pulled it off exceptionally well.

Still, the writer sucks. But Tom Hardy is freaking phenomenal.

#22 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

Do you think you could write a better story? I'm not offended or mad or anything like that when I ask that, I'm just curious.

Metamania

It doesn't matter. Im not being paid to write a story. Im not in any position to write a story for a game. These games make hundreds of millions of dollars and they can easily afford to have a decent story than the sh*t we get every year.

OK, you say it doesn't matter, but if you were paid to write a story for any game, do you think you could better than what we've seen?

This is a ridiculous line of questioning. What does it matter? If I say yes then I cant prove it. If I say no, then it means I dont know what Im talking about. I'm sorry but it's a stupid question that has nothing to do with this discussion.

How about I ask you if you have seen a terrible porno and then ask you if you could somehow make a better porno. Who the f*ck knows? Who cares? Do you have to have experience making pornos before you can criticize it? If Spielberg's Lincoln ends up sucking like War Horse, do we start asking Roger Ebert if he can make a better Lincoln movie? RE6 got an extremely polarizing reception when it launched last month. Did you go ahead and ask everyone who hated the game if they couldve made a better game?

#23 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18325 posts) -

I refuse to believe you havent seen any of these movies. So you have seen him and still didnt recognize him. That just proves that he loses himself in the character just like all good actors.S0lidSnake
Sorry to disappoint, but I checked his filmography and I can safely say I've never seen any movie he was in, except Star Trek Nemesis, and 20 minutes of Inception, before I got bored to death with the movie.

Tell you what, tell me what movie of his I should watch to convince myself he would make a good Sam Fisher. No sarcasm, I'm really asking. I'll watch it and get back to you on this.

#24 Posted by Metamania (11973 posts) -

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

It doesn't matter. Im not being paid to write a story. Im not in any position to write a story for a game. These games make hundreds of millions of dollars and they can easily afford to have a decent story than the sh*t we get every year.

S0lidSnake

OK, you say it doesn't matter, but if you were paid to write a story for any game, do you think you could better than what we've seen?

This is a ridiculous line of questioning. What does it matter? If I say yes then I cant prove it. If I say no, then it means I dont know what Im talking about. I'm sorry but it's a stupid question that has nothing to do with this discussion.

How about I ask you if you have seen a terrible porno and then ask you if you could somehow make a better porno. Who the f*ck knows? Who cares? Do you have to have experience making pornos before you can criticize it? If Spielberg's Lincoln ends up sucking like War Horse, do we start asking Roger Ebert if he can make a better Lincoln movie? RE6 got an extremely polarizing reception when it launched last month. Did you go ahead and ask everyone who hated the game if they couldve made a better game?

First and foremost, it's not a stupid question. I'm merely asking you so that you can speculate or give an honest opinion, paid or not paid. We've all learned how to write stories in our school days and onwards, so I think it's fair to ask, experienced or not. After all, you said that the stories that we go through is pretty much s*it and that two-year olds wrote it. So, when you said that, that gave me the impression that somehow, you could do it better than they could. Am I wrong?

And I didn't do any of the above at all. The opinions of people are left up to themselves. I can't change their minds or force them to agree with the mindset that I also have. It's impossible. But it is possible to listen to others, in their opinions, and see what they have to say. Splinter Cell is definitely cliched and used up, I agree with you, because it's been done before. But again, you gave that impression of "Hey, two-year olds can write it, but I can do better than them."

So...can you?

#25 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

20 minutes of Inception, before I got bored to death with the movie.Black_Knight_00

of Inception, before I got bored to death with the movie.Black_Knight_00

before I got bored to death with the movie.Black_Knight_00

You and I are done.

I am defriending you from PSN.

#26 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18325 posts) -

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]of Inception, before I got bored to death with the movie.S0lidSnake

before I got bored to death with the movie.Black_Knight_00

You and I are done.

I am defriending you from PSN.

Oh come on :lol: I'm sure you'd hate 90% of my favorite movies, but I won't unfriend you because of that :lol:
#27 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

First and foremost, it's not a stupid question. I'm merely asking you so that you can speculate or give an honest opinion, paid or not paid. We've all learned how to write stories in our school days and onwards, so I think it's fair to ask, experienced or not. After all, you said that the stories that we go through is pretty much s*it and that two-year olds wrote it. So, when you said that, that gave me the impression that somehow, you could do it better than they could. Am I wrong?

And I didn't do any of the above at all. The opinions of people are left up to themselves. I can't change their minds or force them to agree with the mindset that I also have. It's impossible. But it is possible to listen to others, in their opinions, and see what they have to say. Splinter Cell is definitely cliched and used up, I agree with you, because it's been done before. But again, you gave that impression of "Hey, two-year olds can write it, but I can do better than them."

So...can you?

Metamania

For god's sake meta, Yes! Yes I can write a better story than Call of Duty. Yes I can write a better ending than what we got in Borderlands and Rage. Happy?

Seriously man you're gonna give me ulcer.

#28 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]before I got bored to death with the movie.Black_Knight_00

You and I are done.

I am defriending you from PSN.

Oh come on :lol: I'm sure you'd hate 90% of my favorite movies, but I won't unfriend you because of that :lol:

What movies do you like? List your favorite movies and I'll judge. I know you're not a fan of Italian porn so you do have good taste in porn at least.

And as for which movies he's good in. ALl those I listed above. He wasnt even in the first 20 minutes of INception. he was phenomenal in Warrior and TDKR. I dont know if he will be good in Splinter Cell. I havent seen him in the suit, i havent seen him in character, for all we know, he could end up being the worst Sam Fisher ever.

BUT he is a good actor so we have faith in him nailing the character. Or at least putting his own spin on it. He's a talented actor, and one who is a hot commodity in hollywood, like vader said, this is PERFECT casting.

#29 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18325 posts) -
What movies do you like? List your favorite movies and I'll judge. I know you're not a fan of Italian porn so you do have good taste in porn at least.

And as for which movies he's good in. ALl those I listed above. He wasnt even in the first 20 minutes of INception. he was phenomenal in Warrior and TDKR. I dont know if he will be good in Splinter Cell. I havent seen him in the suit, i havent seen him in character, for all we know, he could end up being the worst Sam Fisher ever.

BUT he is a good actor so we have faith in him nailing the character. Or at least putting his own spin on it. He's a talented actor, and one who is a hot commodity in hollywood, like vader said, this is PERFECT casting.S0lidSnake

I refuse to list my favorite movies! You'd just call me a hipster and delete me from PSN :lol:

#30 Posted by c_rakestraw (14611 posts) -

First and foremost, it's not a stupid question. I'm merely asking you so that you can speculate or give an honest opinion, paid or not paid. We've all learned how to write stories in our school days and onwards, so I think it's fair to ask, experienced or not. After all, you said that the stories that we go through is pretty much s*it and that two-year olds wrote it. So, when you said that, that gave me the impression that somehow, you could do it better than they could. Am I wrong?

And I didn't do any of the above at all. The opinions of people are left up to themselves. I can't change their minds or force them to agree with the mindset that I also have. It's impossible. But it is possible to listen to others, in their opinions, and see what they have to say. Splinter Cell is definitely cliched and used up, I agree with you, because it's been done before. But again, you gave that impression of "Hey, two-year olds can write it, but I can do better than them."

So...can you?

Metamania

I know I can't write a story to save my life, but that doesn't mean I can't say that most video game stories are crap. Solid was just being hyperbolic with that statement about two-year-olds, like pretty much all of us do all the time.

#31 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -
Yeah that looks just like Sam Fisher, they fvcking nailed it. Huuuurrr. I stopped giving a sh1t about game movies a long time ago anyways, this movie is destined to be ass.
#32 Posted by Solid_Snake325 (6091 posts) -
Tom Hardy is a solid actor. I'd rather have a good actor than someone who simply looks like Fisher.
#33 Posted by Solid_Link22 (5602 posts) -

Good actor. He was awesome in the Dark Knight Rises as Bane and was awesome in Inception.

#34 Posted by contracts420 (1956 posts) -

For the most part I don't really care about the movie. I care about the games, so long as they are good I am happy. Although I must say that Tom Hardy is a fantastic actor. He was amazing in Bronson.

On a different note, those who judge video game writing should get a better understanding of the process. Movies need a script to be greenlit and put into full production. Games on the other hand are being built before the story is even there. They cannot keep everyone employed while waiting on a script. They need to be working in the meantime. Games don't make money from two ends, they simply get released and whatever is made in a relatively short amount of time will determine the fate of a sequel. Developers must get straight back to work. That's how it is.

The process in the games industry is vastly different than writing a story for the movie or television industries.

#35 Posted by Metamania (11973 posts) -

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

First and foremost, it's not a stupid question. I'm merely asking you so that you can speculate or give an honest opinion, paid or not paid. We've all learned how to write stories in our school days and onwards, so I think it's fair to ask, experienced or not. After all, you said that the stories that we go through is pretty much s*it and that two-year olds wrote it. So, when you said that, that gave me the impression that somehow, you could do it better than they could. Am I wrong?

And I didn't do any of the above at all. The opinions of people are left up to themselves. I can't change their minds or force them to agree with the mindset that I also have. It's impossible. But it is possible to listen to others, in their opinions, and see what they have to say. Splinter Cell is definitely cliched and used up, I agree with you, because it's been done before. But again, you gave that impression of "Hey, two-year olds can write it, but I can do better than them."

So...can you?

S0lidSnake

For god's sake meta, Yes! Yes I can write a better story than Call of Duty. Yes I can write a better ending than what we got in Borderlands and Rage. Happy?

Seriously man you're gonna give me ulcer.

Thank you. That's all I asked, S0lid, just an answer. :)

#36 Posted by Business_Fun (2281 posts) -

I think they should have cast John Goodman in the role. On account of how he's John Goodman.

#37 Posted by NicotineKid (1475 posts) -

He was great in the Warrior. But yeah, I would prefer to see an older guy play as Sam Fisher.

#38 Posted by Metamania (11973 posts) -

He was great in the Warrior. But yeah, I would prefer to see an older guy play as Sam Fisher.

NicotineKid

Last I checked, I didn't hear many people complain about Tom Cruise playing the part of a 56-year old man in Rain Man, so if anything, Tom Hardy would be decent for the role if he studies the character well and gets into Sam's psyche and all that real tight.

#39 Posted by The_Last_Ride (70921 posts) -
I don't know the guy above.. whats his name and what movies has he been in?Rattlesnake_8
The guy has played Bane in Batman, played in Lawless, Rocknrolla, This Means War, Warrior, Inception and other big roles
#40 Posted by Grammaton-Cleric (7513 posts) -

Sam Fischer was born in 1957 which means he was 45 during the events of the first Splinter Cell. (2002)

Having Hardy play him at that age isn't much of a stretch, especially considering that Hardy is one of those rare talents who can morph into just about anyone or anything, almost to the point of being unrecognizable.

Also, whos to say they don't want to explore Fischer's back story a bit and give us a younger version in doing so?

#41 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18325 posts) -

Sam Fischer was born in 1957 which means he was 45 during the events of the first Splinter Cell. (2002)

Having Hardy play him at that age isn't much of a stretch, especially considering that Hardy is one of those rare talents who can morph into just about anyone or anything, almost to the point of being unrecognizable.

Also, whos to say they don't want to explore Fischer's back story a bit and give us a younger version in doing so?

Grammaton-Cleric
Pardon my skepticism, but it's unlikely. They'll probably write him after James Bond and turn Anna Grimsdottir into a big boobed love interest, if previous Hollywood movie adaptations are any indication.
#42 Posted by Vickman178 (1035 posts) -

What does it matter? The movie will probably turn into another generic action film.

I hope the Metal Gear Solid movie turns out good though.

#43 Posted by Grammaton-Cleric (7513 posts) -

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

Sam Fischer was born in 1957 which means he was 45 during the events of the first Splinter Cell. (2002)

Having Hardy play him at that age isn't much of a stretch, especially considering that Hardy is one of those rare talents who can morph into just about anyone or anything, almost to the point of being unrecognizable.

Also, whos to say they don't want to explore Fischer's back story a bit and give us a younger version in doing so?

Black_Knight_00

Pardon my skepticism, but it's unlikely. They'll probably write him after James Bond and turn Anna Grimsdottir into a big boobed love interest, if previous Hollywood movie adaptations are any indication.

Film adaptations are generally poor because most games are predicated on fairly thin storylines, which is fine considering that videogames are, first and foremost, an interactive medium.

The Splinter Cell franchise, which is part of the Tom Clancy universe, contains enough mythos and characterization to actually translate into a compelling and potentially interesting film narrative but what you must understand is that there will be compromises when transitioning from one medium to another; it is unavoidable.

And with respect, your complaints are largely superficial. Complaining about Hardy (who really is a top-notch actor) being too young is the equivalent of those people who whined incessantly when it was revealed that Hardy's version of Bane didn't wear a luchador mask or use the muscle-enhancing substance Venom to increase his girth.

These smaller details are largely unimportant. What should be paramount is capturing and emulating the spirit of the franchise rather than obsessing over minor details that have no real bearing on the deeper themes of the narrative and the characters who occupy it.

I have no idea how this film will turn out given the early stage of pre-production but I do think the casting of Hardy is a positive sign.

#44 Posted by o0squishy0o (2754 posts) -

Well from seeing a few tom hardy films, the only thing that worries me is his voice. The Bane voice imo was over the top and in all honesty, runied any sort of imitidation of the character. However in the film set in "the wild west" with the guy from transformers etc, I think he played that well, but the weird tone to his voice was still there and from my memory, sam fisher is quite low and gritty and doesnt have a weird overtone to it.

Also from playing 2 or 3 (dont think I completed the 3rd) the game had a good story, but nothing I would have thought you could make a film about. It would be cool to see something homeland'esq in the sence of goverment conspiracy. But to be honest, its going to be more of a good story with the character thrown in, not so much the games story as from my experience its nothing I would consider film worthy.

#45 Posted by wiouds (5084 posts) -

Film adaptations are generally poor because most games are predicated on fairly thin storylines, which is fine considering that videogames are, first and foremost, an interactive medium.

Grammaton-Cleric

I would disagree that most films adaptation of games poor because the games' story. The main problem is the fact that games are base on problem solving while movies can not have problem solving in it. You can have films with thin storylines that are still good.

Another problem that films adaptation face is how much of the source should they use. Too much and they alienate the nongamer. You be surprised at how much background most games have. Then the other side is that you stray too much and those that like the games will yelled that they are just using the name.

Furthermore some fans have these unreasonable details they expect in the movie. Like a character age. I do not think it would be easy to get a person the right age that can act out the character.

#46 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18325 posts) -

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

Sam Fischer was born in 1957 which means he was 45 during the events of the first Splinter Cell. (2002)

Having Hardy play him at that age isn't much of a stretch, especially considering that Hardy is one of those rare talents who can morph into just about anyone or anything, almost to the point of being unrecognizable.

Also, whos to say they don't want to explore Fischer's back story a bit and give us a younger version in doing so?

Grammaton-Cleric

Pardon my skepticism, but it's unlikely. They'll probably write him after James Bond and turn Anna Grimsdottir into a big boobed love interest, if previous Hollywood movie adaptations are any indication.

Film adaptations are generally poor because most games are predicated on fairly thin storylines, which is fine considering that videogames are, first and foremost, an interactive medium.

The Splinter Cell franchise, which is part of the Tom Clancy universe, contains enough mythos and characterization to actually translate into a compelling and potentially interesting film narrative but what you must understand is that there will be compromises when transitioning from one medium to another; it is unavoidable.

And with respect, your complaints are largely superficial. Complaining about Hardy (who really is a top-notch actor) being too young is the equivalent of those people who whined incessantly when it was revealed that Hardy's version of Bane didn't wear a luchador mask or use the muscle-enhancing substance Venom to increase his girth.

These smaller details are largely unimportant. What should be paramount is capturing and emulating the spirit of the franchise rather than obsessing over minor details that have no real bearing on the deeper themes of the narrative and the characters who occupy it.

I have no idea how this film will turn out given the early stage of pre-production but I do think the casting of Hardy is a positive sign.

Can't agree on either point. There are games that have very good stories and the reason why Hollywood has the constant habit of rewriting them is because it's cheaper to only license the characters and hire a cheap writer to produce a new storyline. About "small details", I think the size of them is really relative: some people (like yourself) find a restyling of Bane to be a minor matter (a forgiving and accomodating stance). On the other hand, others, like me, see it as a betrayal to the source material. As a fiction writer, I hate to see someone else mess with my work and change it around. Not to mention the fact that narrative excellence is an unstable formula: what works in its simplicity (say Max Payne) does not work when that delicate balance is disturbed (awful rewritten movie version). I think movie adaptations should strive to give the same exact emotions as the source material through a different medium, instead of altering someone else's work.
#47 Posted by SouL-Tak3R (4024 posts) -

He is a good actor. But we will just have to wait and see.

#48 Posted by Archangel3371 (15388 posts) -
Judging from his previous roles I'd say they made an excellent choice casting him.
#49 Posted by koospetoors (3244 posts) -
Splinter Cell movie? Now that's making me nostalgic. Anyone remember back in the Chaos Theory days when they included a teaser for it? I'm actually surprised its still going even after all these years. I miss the old Splinter Cell stealth games.
#50 Posted by megadeth1117 (1830 posts) -

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'Nuff said.