Sony teases "the future" of Playstation - countdown to 2/20/13

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#101 Posted by rragnaar (27023 posts) -
Ha! I won't be getting off of work, but I'll probably barge into my brother's office and tell him to pull the livestream up on his big monitor.
#102 Posted by c_rakestraw (14607 posts) -

Ah, the advantages of being unemployed. Won't have to worry about missing the stream.

#103 Posted by burgeg (3599 posts) -

It's on at 11PM in the UK. We don't even need to get out of work!

So who reckons GT6 will be a launch title and they'll show it and announce that at the conference? They've probably been working on it for some time so it might not be that ridiculous. Now THAT would be a system seller at launch.

#104 Posted by rragnaar (27023 posts) -

It's on at 11PM in the UK. We don't even need to get out of work!

So who reckons GT6 will be a launch title and they'll show it and announce that at the conference? They've probably been working on it for some time so it might not be that ridiculous. Now THAT would be a system seller at launch.

burgeg
I wonder what they can get ready. I imagine that the 'premium' cars from GT5 are pretty much ready to be used in GT6, but they've got to update the rest of the cars, along with redoing their tracks to make them look nicer. I don't want 2D trees.:P By launch they will have had three years to get that together. That may be enough time for Polyphony, and it may not. If GT5 is anything to go by, I'd be surprised to see GT6 at the launch, but maybe there'll be a GT6: Prologue.
#105 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

It's on at 11PM in the UK. We don't even need to get out of work!

So who reckons GT6 will be a launch title and they'll show it and announce that at the conference? They've probably been working on it for some time so it might not be that ridiculous. Now THAT would be a system seller at launch.

rragnaar

I wonder what they can get ready. I imagine that the 'premium' cars from GT5 are pretty much ready to be used in GT6, but they've got to update the rest of the cars, along with redoing their tracks to make them look nicer. I don't want 2D trees.:P By launch they will have had three years to get that together. That may be enough time for Polyphony, and it may not. If GT5 is anything to go by, I'd be surprised to see GT6 at the launch, but maybe there'll be a GT6: Prologue.

GT4 took three years. I think learning the PS3 is what caused them issues. Hopefully, three years is enough for them on this very easy to build for platform. 

#106 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -
[QUOTE="burgeg"]

It's on at 11PM in the UK. We don't even need to get out of work!

So who reckons GT6 will be a launch title and they'll show it and announce that at the conference? They've probably been working on it for some time so it might not be that ridiculous. Now THAT would be a system seller at launch.

rragnaar
I wonder what they can get ready. I imagine that the 'premium' cars from GT5 are pretty much ready to be used in GT6, but they've got to update the rest of the cars, along with redoing their tracks to make them look nicer. I don't want 2D trees.:P By launch they will have had three years to get that together. That may be enough time for Polyphony, and it may not. If GT5 is anything to go by, I'd be surprised to see GT6 at the launch, but maybe there'll be a GT6: Prologue.

So GT6 would be the game we thought GT5 would be?
#107 Posted by rragnaar (27023 posts) -
[QUOTE="dvader654"] So GT6 would be the game we thought GT5 would be?

Essentially.:lol:
#108 Posted by Vari3ty (11111 posts) -

It's on at 11PM in the UK. We don't even need to get out of work!

So who reckons GT6 will be a launch title and they'll show it and announce that at the conference? They've probably been working on it for some time so it might not be that ridiculous. Now THAT would be a system seller at launch.

burgeg

I would be very surprised if GT6 was even close to completion knowing Polyphony... wouldn't count on it be a launch title. 

#109 Posted by Shame-usBlackley (18266 posts) -

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

It's on at 11PM in the UK. We don't even need to get out of work!

So who reckons GT6 will be a launch title and they'll show it and announce that at the conference? They've probably been working on it for some time so it might not be that ridiculous. Now THAT would be a system seller at launch.

Vari3ty

I would be very surprised if GT6 was even close to completion knowing Polyphony... wouldn't count on it be a launch title. 

I'd be super surprised if GT6 comes within the first two years of the system's life. Racers don't have the cachet that they did back when the series first launched, for starters. And Polyphony's attention to detail will take a long time to implement. Fine by me -- I'd like to see more Adventure games from Sony, perhaps even an RPG or three. 

#110 Posted by Vari3ty (11111 posts) -

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

It's on at 11PM in the UK. We don't even need to get out of work!

So who reckons GT6 will be a launch title and they'll show it and announce that at the conference? They've probably been working on it for some time so it might not be that ridiculous. Now THAT would be a system seller at launch.

Shame-usBlackley

I would be very surprised if GT6 was even close to completion knowing Polyphony... wouldn't count on it be a launch title. 

I'd be super surprised if GT6 comes within the first two years of the system's life. Racers don't have the cachet that they did back when the series first launched, for starters. And Polyphony's attention to detail will take a long time to implement. Fine by me -- I'd like to see more Adventure games from Sony, perhaps even an RPG or three. 

An exclusive RPG would be fantastic. 

#111 Posted by rragnaar (27023 posts) -
It's been rumored that Guerilla's next gen project is an RPG.
#112 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

It's been rumored that Guerilla's next gen project is an RPG.rragnaar

They better hire some good writers.

#113 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]It's been rumored that Guerilla's next gen project is an RPG.S0lidSnake

They better hire some good writers.

:lol:

Rumors confimed to be true on gaf on two dueling racing games that could be launch titles for each system.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511850

Evolution Studios is now composed of some of the best racing developers in the industry with Ged Talbot at the helm.  If you played any of their games, especially Blur, you know these guys put in work.  Internally they are calling it Europes biggest racing game in a decade. 

The next exciting bit I found out about this new mystery racing game is that it will be shown on February 20th at Sonys Playstation event, along with another next gen shocker from Guerrilla Games.

ex-Bizarre and Criterion developers are working on a next generation PGR5 game for the next Xbox.  As you already may know, the ex-Bizarre developers formed Lucid games and are located in Liverpool.  They are taking the existing PGR code base and upgrading it for the next generation Xbox. 

#114 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

I'm glad to see this forum coming alive again.

#115 Posted by c_rakestraw (14607 posts) -

I'm glad to see this forum coming alive again.dvader654

Agreed. It's been long overdue.

#116 Posted by F1Lengend (7883 posts) -

Honestly, the 2D trees in GT5 are pretty damn nice at least for the new tracks like Nur and Spa. They create a very convincing image imo

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I can see GT6 releasing in holiday 14, not sooner then that.  Honestly I'm really giddy for the new consoles, I feel like games are not going to take forever to come out and we will see some really cool stuff semi early.  I know that goes against logic and history but with the power and available RAM in these units (Allegedly!), they won't be fighting the systems so hard to squeeze out a decent image.  Open world RPGs wont be a b!tch to run now that we have more than 512 megs of RAM.  I'm very optimistic.

#117 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

I'm glad to see this forum coming alive again.

dvader654

This gen went on for far too long. We shouldve been doing this two years ago. These are two years of my life I will never get back... f*ck Sony and especially MS! Theie console was due in 2011. 

Anyway, heres another cIassic from gaf. I havent seen that forum this excited in years. 

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#118 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Honestly, the 2D trees in GT5 are pretty damn nice at least for the new tracks like Nur and Spa. They create a very convincing image imo

I can see GT6 releasing in holiday 14, not sooner then that.  Honestly I'm really giddy for the new consoles, I feel like games are not going to take forever to come out and we will see some really cool stuff semi early.  I know that goes against logic and history but with the power and available RAM in these units (Allegedly!), they won't be fighting the systems so hard to squeeze out a decent image.  Open world RPGs wont be a b!tch to run now that we have more than 512 megs of RAM.  I'm very optimistic.

F1Lengend

I dont care what anyone says. GT5 was at times the best looking game I've ever played. Doing the Nurburgingdingdong whatever track in rain and in hood cam is the most exhiliarting experience I've had with a racing game. Simply amazing.

Why does everyone think GT6 would take four years? They already have 250 premium cars. They already have the tracks. All they need to do is revamp the multiplayer, add 3D trees and 3D crowd, model 250 more premium cars and well that's it. Why would this take 4 years? Summer 2014 for sure. 

Besides, holiday 14 is Uncharted 4 and Sony Santa monica's new IP. :P :D

#119 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]It's been rumored that Guerilla's next gen project is an RPG.S0lidSnake

They better hire some good writers.

Killzone has some of the worst writing and characters in a videogame.......ever. Fvcking ever. Love the multiplayer though.
#120 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]It's been rumored that Guerilla's next gen project is an RPG.GodModeEnabled

They better hire some good writers.

Killzone has some of the worst writing and characters in a videogame.......ever. Fvcking ever. Love the multiplayer though.

The sad thing is that their backstory of this world is very interesting. They have the entire history fleshed out on the website, and yet none of it made it into the games. 

#121 Posted by F1Lengend (7883 posts) -

[QUOTE="F1Lengend"]

Honestly, the 2D trees in GT5 are pretty damn nice at least for the new tracks like Nur and Spa. They create a very convincing image imo

I can see GT6 releasing in holiday 14, not sooner then that.  Honestly I'm really giddy for the new consoles, I feel like games are not going to take forever to come out and we will see some really cool stuff semi early.  I know that goes against logic and history but with the power and available RAM in these units (Allegedly!), they won't be fighting the systems so hard to squeeze out a decent image.  Open world RPGs wont be a b!tch to run now that we have more than 512 megs of RAM.  I'm very optimistic.

S0lidSnake

I dont care what anyone says. GT5 was at times the best looking game I've ever played. Doing the Nurburgingdingdong whatever track in rain and in hood cam is the most exhiliarting experience I've had with a racing game. Simply amazing.

Why does everyone think GT6 would take four years? They already have 250 premium cars. They already have the tracks. All they need to do is revamp the multiplayer, add 3D trees and 3D crowd, model 250 more premium cars and well that's it. Why would this take 4 years? Summer 2014 for sure. 

Besides, holiday 14 is Uncharted 4 and Sony Santa monica's new IP. :P :D

SSM never releases a game in the holidays. Boom, GT6 holiday 14! :P

Four years is a perfect amount of time since they have a new gen to sort the kinks out and upgrade their engine.  Plus, GT5 was supported well after release so in the consumers minds it doesnt feel like 4 years.  The car roster is going to be iffy.  There has been a bunch of new cars since 2010, including 2014/2015 concepts that PD should implement.  They don't want to have the bulk of their cars from past games/old and uninteresting models.  So there is a ton of ground to cover.  PD and gamers a like need to get over the "1000 car lists" in racing games, its just not feasible anymore.  Its time to dump the legacy cars and cherry pick the really good ones for upgrading.  No more 91 Celicas. 

Beyond the car models there is still a ton to do, like multiplayer expansion (clans, actual leaderboards), and a revamped career mode.  "Just" adding 250 cars and graphical improvements will leave people sour, plus PD doesn't roll like that.  Lets not forget re-recording all those cars for proper engine sounds and hopefully some form of dynamic damage modelling.  Man there is a ton of work to be done now that I think about it.

Holiday 16 confirmed.

#122 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Holiday 16 confirmed.

F1Lengend

:lol: 

#123 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Rumors confimed to be true on gaf on two dueling racing games that could be launch titles for each system.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511850

Evolution Studios is now composed of some of the best racing developers in the industry with Ged Talbot at the helm.  If you played any of their games, especially Blur, you know these guys put in work.  Internally they are calling it Europes biggest racing game in a decade. 

The next exciting bit I found out about this new mystery racing game is that it will be shown on February 20th at Sonys Playstation event, along with another next gen shocker from Guerrilla Games.

ex-Bizarre and Criterion developers are working on a next generation PGR5 game for the next Xbox.  As you already may know, the ex-Bizarre developers formed Lucid games and are located in Liverpool.  They are taking the existing PGR code base and upgrading it for the next generation Xbox. 

dvader654

Game Bizarre Creations were working on before they got canned. Now half the team is at Evolution Studios, the other half making PGR5. I am scared to think what Evolution Studios is cooking up. Scared. 

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#124 Posted by CarnageHeart (18316 posts) -

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

They better hire some good writers.

S0lidSnake

Killzone has some of the worst writing and characters in a videogame.......ever. Fvcking ever. Love the multiplayer though.

The sad thing is that their backstory of this world is very interesting. They have the entire history fleshed out on the website, and yet none of it made it into the games.

Its hard to imagine the KZ guys making an rpg but at least Sony is finally dipping its toe into the wrpg waters.

#125 Posted by SulIy (112 posts) -
This talk of PGR makes me feel all warm inside. That game made the original Xbox worth owning to me, all by itself. Didn't like the second one much, but 3&4 were great, and deserved to be appreciated more than they actually were by gamers at large.
#126 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Looks like the PS4 will retail for 40,000 yen in Japan which is around $428. Usually that means the PS4 will be a little cheaper stateside so $399 is what we'll be paying come November.

lol at everyone who just a year ago thought we would be paying $500-$600 as if Sony would make the same mistake twice. 

lol at me for thinking Sony would retail it for $299. :(

#127 Posted by rragnaar (27023 posts) -

Asahi Shimbun, a major newspaper in Japan, is reporting that the PS4 will be over 40,000 yen, which is about $428 in US dollars.

The PlayStation 4 will launch this year for over 40,000 yen (about $428), according to a report in major Japanese daily the Asahi Shimbun. That's the first clear indication we've gotten on how much the new system might cost, and suggests that while Sony isn't pricing the PS4 too aggressively next to the likes of the Wii U, it may have learned its lesson from the shaky PlayStation 3 launch.

For comparison, upon release in 2006 the PS3 cost around 60,000 yen in its more expensive configuration, and $599 in the US. Meanwhile, the cheapest PS3 now costs 24,980 yen in Japan versus $269 in the US. Were the PS4 to launch at 40,000 yen in Japan, we'd expect an American price point of around $400 or more.

The Asahi Shimbun further corroborates things we've heard from other reports, such as a 2013 launch for the US and Japan no mention was made of Europe, suggesting the release there may well slip into 2014. Elsewhere, the report says that the PS4 controller will feature a touch pad and be "roughly the same shape" as the current Dual Shock 3. Finally, the Asahi Shimbun states in no uncertain terms that February 20th is the datewhen we'll hear all this information confirmed for real.

The Verge

$425 is an odd number for a console launch.  I bet Sony goes with $399 in the US.

#128 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Looks like the PS4 will retail for 40,000 yen in Japan which is around $428. Usually that means the PS4 will be a little cheaper stateside so $399 is what we'll be paying come November.

lol at everyone who just a year ago thought we would be paying $500-$600 as if Sony would make the same mistake twice. 

lol at me for thinking Sony would retail it for $299. :(

Source:

http://www.asahi.com/business/update...302060568.html

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/6/396...shimbun-report

Quote:The PlayStation 4 will launch this year for over 40,000 yen (about $428), according to a report in major Japanese daily the Asahi Shimbun. That's the first clear indication we've gotten on pricing for the new system, and suggests that while Sony isn't pricing the PS4 too aggressively, it's learned its lesson from the shaky PlayStation 3 launch. For comparison, upon release in 2006 the PS3 cost around 60,000 yen in its more expensive configuration, and $599 in the US. Meanwhile, the cheapest PS3 now costs 24,980 yen in Japan versus $269 in the US. Were the PS4 to launch at 40,000 yen in Japan, we'd expect an American price of around $400 or more.

The Asahi Shimbun further corroborates things we've heard from other reports, such as a 2013 launch for the US and Japan no mention was made of Europe, suggesting the release there may well slip into 2014. Elsewhere, the report says that the PS4 controller will feature a touch pad and be "roughly the same shape" as the current Dual Shock 3. Finally, the Asahi Shimbun states in no uncertain terms that February 20th is the date when we'll hear all this information confirmed for real.
#129 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Damn you ragnaar! Stupid gamespot decides to time out on me every few minutes. It's ridiculous.

#130 Posted by rragnaar (27023 posts) -

Damn you ragnaar! Stupid gamespot decides to time out on me every few minutes. It's ridiculous.

S0lidSnake
In your face sucka!
#131 Posted by c_rakestraw (14607 posts) -

lol at me for thinking Sony would retail it for $299. :(S0lidSnake

It could still happen through a second hardware SKU. Can't rule out that possibitity just yet.

#132 Posted by Archangel3371 (15368 posts) -
$400 is a nice price I think. That's something I can certainly go for.
#133 Posted by rragnaar (27023 posts) -

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]lol at me for thinking Sony would retail it for $299. :(c_rake

It could still happen through a second hardware SKU. Can't rule out that possibitity just yet.

With inflation, I'd be really surprised if Sony ever launches at $299 ever again.
#134 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="c_rake"]

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]lol at me for thinking Sony would retail it for $299. :(rragnaar

It could still happen through a second hardware SKU. Can't rule out that possibitity just yet.

With inflation, I'd be really surprised if Sony ever launches at $299 ever again.

The inflation didnt seem to affect the Vita price.

#135 Posted by c_rakestraw (14607 posts) -

With inflation, I'd be really surprised if Sony ever launches at $299 ever again.rragnaar

Maybe so, but stranger things have happened.

#136 Posted by Vari3ty (11111 posts) -

Never have played PGR. Is it an arcade or simulation series?

#137 Posted by CarnageHeart (18316 posts) -
Four hundred isn't great, but it isn't bad,
#138 Posted by c_rakestraw (14607 posts) -

Never have played PGR. Is it an arcade or simulation series?Vari3ty

I think it was supposed to be some sort of bridge between those two styles.

#139 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -
$400 is fine.
#140 Posted by F1Lengend (7883 posts) -
I paid $500 for the 360 at launch here in Canada. $400 is straight sex.
#141 Posted by rragnaar (27023 posts) -
I paid $600 for my 60gb, bought Resistance, Tony Hawk 8 and three sh*tty sixaxis controllers. I spent $870 on the PS3 launch. $400 sounds dreamy.:P
#142 Posted by Shame-usBlackley (18266 posts) -

So far, so good. Now as long as they don't drive off the NOUSEDGAEMZ cliff with Microsoft, Sony has earned my money. $400 is what I was expecting.

#143 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

I paid $600 for my 60gb, bought Resistance, Tony Hawk 8 and three sh*tty sixaxis controllers. I spent $870 on the PS3 launch. $400 sounds dreamy.:Prragnaar

The NY state tax alone cost me another $60. I remember walking out with Resistance and a 60GB wondering why in the world did i just drop over $700 on this thing. 

Two years later, it got YLOD. Now it's sitting in my brother's basement collecting dust. I did got to play MGS4 on day 1 and that game alone was worth $600.

#144 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -
$400 was what I was expecting anyways and don't really mind that pricepoint. I just hope it's not $500 for the version that has a wireless router and an actual hardrive or some stupid sh1t like that.
#145 Posted by D3s7rUc71oN (5180 posts) -

$400 was what I was expecting anyways and don't really mind that pricepoint. I just hope it's not $500 for the version that has a wireless router and an actual hardrive or some stupid sh1t like that.GodModeEnabled

Heh I wouldn't be surprised :P  I'll buy it at launch @ $400 but I'm pretty sure the will be "deluxe" version. 

#146 Posted by GreekGameManiac (6439 posts) -

The gaf thread is amazing.

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S0lidSnake

O_O 

#147 Posted by SaudiFury (8707 posts) -
$400 was what I was expecting anyways and don't really mind that pricepoint. I just hope it's not $500 for the version that has a wireless router and an actual hardrive or some stupid sh1t like that.GodModeEnabled
probably will i'm worried to say. if it's just extra harddrive space, then whatever. but yeah. also 400 bucks isn't that bad i think.
#148 Posted by burgeg (3599 posts) -

For comparison, how much does the Wii U cost is USD? I'm not American, so knowing the price of the Wii U in the US gives me a good idea of how the UK price will compare to that.

#149 Posted by CarnageHeart (18316 posts) -

For comparison, how much does the Wii U cost is USD? I'm not American, so knowing the price of the Wii U in the US gives me a good idea of how the UK price will compare to that.

burgeg
350 for the model with Nintendoland, 300 for the basic model.
#150 Posted by burgeg (3599 posts) -

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

For comparison, how much does the Wii U cost is USD? I'm not American, so knowing the price of the Wii U in the US gives me a good idea of how the UK price will compare to that.

CarnageHeart

350 for the model with Nintendoland, 300 for the basic model.

So I can assume the PS4 will launch at little over £300 then. I'm ok with this.