Ok lets cool it people, continue to discuss the subject but lets not go to personal attacks please.
If somebody is disagreeing with you, make points via facts gained or use them to back an opinion up. If not then just walk away, there is no point to calling each other names and it means people will not read your views about the subject but how you talk to others.
I apologize for my part in that. I don't mind differing opinions (in fact I welcome them because if everyone agrees then the discussion is boring), but when people admit to just deliberately trying to stir things up (i.e. trolling) that it gets on my nerves. But you're right, no amount of logic or reason on my part will change someone's behavior if that's their only goal. Best to just ignore someone if they choose to behave that way.
@Byshop: IIRC the review criticized the game for being misogynistic based on its portrayal of feminists. Half the population are not feminists and even if they were (in fact the majority of people I know, male and female, hate the shit out of feminists), it is still political. That is, a response to one's personal beliefs rather than a response to the game.
A review should never be about anything other than the subject of the review. Never. Not even an absent-minded joke not related to the game (even if it doesn't impact the score) is acceptable. Not even if it takes up 2 words in a 10,000 word review; it is NOT acceptable. If you are writing a review every point, every observation, every quip, pun and jive must come back to the game in question. If you can't do that you aren't reviewing, you're just rambling.
And no, it isn't an acceptable point for the reviewer to point out that 'if you don't like x than you might not like this' because at that point the reviewer is simply guessing about other peoples preferences and biases rather than using their own (as applied to specifically the game). That's actually less reliable than just writing what they think (about the game).
What if we applied our personal beliefs on violence to videogames reviews? I know there are sites out there with religious interests that do just that, but no mainstream site should.
Not that I would know, I never read the review. Just the impression I got from hearing about it.
The review's criticism was more based on a number of factors. There was a discussion about this in another thread in which we were discussing the distinction between a story being ractist versus it having racist characters. The example I would use often is your average Quentin Tarrantino movie, where pretty much every movie he has made has racist characters but the movies themselves don't necessarily re-enforce these racist ideas. In Res Dogs, Mr Pink casts a negative comparison to the team's dissolution to how a team of n-words would act, but that's the opinion of the character. At no point does the movie actually portray black people acting like Mr Pink's character described.
Carolyn's review, by comparison, was more about multiple elements. Billboards had ads in them with slogans like "smell like a bitch" and radio ads made jokes about using a woman as a urinal among other things. These go beyond the opinions of just a couple of characters
Virtually every female character in the game fell into some stereotype (shrill harpy wife, slutty celebrity obsessed daughter, ruthless and heartless corporate climber, etc). None of these were enviable or even very likable characters. Not every video game that comes out has to be a step forward for the rights of women everywhere, but when you only portray a particular group as a negative stereotype it's kind of a different story. It would be almost like if they had Franklin running around with a dozen kids out of wedlock while eating fried chicken and watermelon.
When you add all this together, it starts to sound kind of compelling. Now, wether or not the game is actually sexist is subjective so it's up for debate. Some say it is, some say it isn't, some say it is but they don't care, some say it is but tha'ts ok because the game itself is a parody of the more negative aspects of our culture. Honestly whether the game is sexist or not isn't really the issue. The issue is Carolyn out of bounds for pointing out that she thinks its sexist. Personally, I think the answer is no and that this is fair game because for all the gamers on this forum who clearly aren't bothered by it, there are a lot of gamers out there who might be.