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#101  Edited By The_Last_Ride
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@jimmy_russell said:

So what if I buy the game in Gamestop, and then go to a torrent site and download the same game? Is that also wrong? And how can you differentiate the paying customers from the non-paying ones? Most of them just want a copy of the game without all the intrusive DRM schemes attached to it.

The DRM only punishes the people who actually bought the game

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#102 kakamoura
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@Jacanuk said:

@Lulu_Lulu said:

@Jacanuk

Piracy is Cloning... Not stealing. Is taking something away Piracy is just downloading ilegal COPIES.

Its bad and its wrong but its most definately not Stealing.

Again with the made up lulu definition.

Are you in college Lulu or were you homeschooled a lot? becuase with your made up words and definitions i feel so sorry for the teacher who had you in his class ;)

But lets put this to rest once and for all.

"steal - stealing - take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it."thieves stole her bicycle""

And yes digital content is someone´s property its not yours or anyone's just because its digital.

You're a simpleton mate?

Piracy doesn't remove the original, it's not stealing. You know there are many developed countries that consider piracy legal (while stealing obviously illegal) right?

Get off your high horse and realize your world view is just simply wrong.

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#103  Edited By kakamoura
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@Jacanuk said:

@jimmy_russell said:

Can you show me/link me the legal context in which theft occured via a digital medium? Because that would literally require interception of digital transmissions and actual physical theft of communications by way of hijacking. That's out of context to piracy.

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It’s an age-old crime: stealing.

But it’s not about picking a pocket or holding up a bank. It’s robbing people of their ideas, inventions, and creative expressions—what’s called intellectual property—everything from trade secrets and proprietary products and parts to movies and music and software.

It’s a growing threat—especially with the rise of digital technologies and Internet file sharing networks. And much of the theft takes place overseas, where laws are often lax and enforcement more difficult. All told, intellectual property theft costs U.S. businesses billions of dollars a year and robs the nation of jobs and lost tax revenues.

Preventing intellectual property theft is a priority of the FBI’s criminal investigative program. We specifically focus on the theft of trade secrets and infringements on products that can impact consumers’ health and safety, such as counterfeit aircraft, car, and electronic parts. Key to our success is linking the considerable resources and efforts of the private sector with law enforcement partners on local, state, federal, and international levels."

That is taken direct from the FBI.gov site. You are welcome to disagree with what they think but in the long run who do you think matters the most.

That's an opinion statement not legal one.

The FBI obviously doesn't consider piracy to be stealing because the United States law does not consider piracy to be stealing.

You're embarrassing yourself with each post.

TO MAKE IT REALLY SIMPLE:

Theft and copyright infringement are 2 completely different ENTITIES when it comes to the US LAW.

If you don't understand this simple fact there's literally nothing anyone can tell you to get you out of your inane babbling.

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#104  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@The_Last_Ride

Yes... And it pains me dearly... :(

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#105 Jacanuk
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@kakamoura said:
@Jacanuk said:

@jimmy_russell said:

Can you show me/link me the legal context in which theft occured via a digital medium? Because that would literally require interception of digital transmissions and actual physical theft of communications by way of hijacking. That's out of context to piracy.

Again

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It’s an age-old crime: stealing.

But it’s not about picking a pocket or holding up a bank. It’s robbing people of their ideas, inventions, and creative expressions—what’s called intellectual property—everything from trade secrets and proprietary products and parts to movies and music and software.

It’s a growing threat—especially with the rise of digital technologies and Internet file sharing networks. And much of the theft takes place overseas, where laws are often lax and enforcement more difficult. All told, intellectual property theft costs U.S. businesses billions of dollars a year and robs the nation of jobs and lost tax revenues.

Preventing intellectual property theft is a priority of the FBI’s criminal investigative program. We specifically focus on the theft of trade secrets and infringements on products that can impact consumers’ health and safety, such as counterfeit aircraft, car, and electronic parts. Key to our success is linking the considerable resources and efforts of the private sector with law enforcement partners on local, state, federal, and international levels."

That is taken direct from the FBI.gov site. You are welcome to disagree with what they think but in the long run who do you think matters the most.

That's an opinion statement not legal one.

The FBI obviously doesn't consider piracy to be stealing because the United States law does not consider piracy to be stealing.

You're embarrassing yourself with each post.

TO MAKE IT REALLY SIMPLE:

Theft and copyright infringement are 2 completely different ENTITIES when it comes to the US LAW.

If you don't understand this simple fact there's literally nothing anyone can tell you to get you out of your inane babbling.

Are you really this thick or is it all a act?

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about so wasting a ounce of time on trying to convince you of what is right is a pointless task so enjoy your ignorance.

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#106  Edited By Planeforger
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@jimmy_russell said:

I agree with fines for copyright infringement, as long as it can be proven that the individual was not previewing the content on his personal computer, without an audience (alone), and there was no profit made by previewing said material. I'm from Canada, and that's the way the laws work up here with copyright infringement. It's only illegal if you sell copies or distribute it publicly.

Having read a short summary of the case on previewing...I don't think what you are saying is correct (I'm not a lawyer, etc.).

From the Wikipedia article, it's true that consumers researching what to buy may fall under the 'research' exception for the fair dealing defence. But that's only part of the analysis - you'd still have to prove that the dealing was 'fair'.

In that case, the dealings were fair because:
(1) there were safeguards to ensure that the copied material met that purpose - which wouldn't be the case with downloaded games;
(2) the music previews in that case were transient, and didn't exist after the user had used them - again, not the case with downloaded games;
(3) the music previews only covered a small fraction of each song's runtime - which wouldn't be the case for downloaded games;
(4) the music previews were the only way to hear what the songs were like - arguably unlike games, in which you could watch footage or potentially even play demos;
(5) the music previews facilitated buying - whereas courts might rule the opposite of the full versions of music/games were able to be freely legally downloaded;
(6) the music previews did not compete with the protected works, since they were shorter/lower quality/temporary streams - unlike downloaded games.

So...yeah, if this is the latest legal development in Canada, then I really highly doubt that anyone pirating games could defend their actions by saying they were merely previewing the content. The situation with games is too different for that case to apply, and I think you'd struggle to prove that videogame piracy constitutes a fair dealing.

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#107 kakamoura
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@Jacanuk said:

@kakamoura said:
@Jacanuk said:

@jimmy_russell said:

Can you show me/link me the legal context in which theft occured via a digital medium? Because that would literally require interception of digital transmissions and actual physical theft of communications by way of hijacking. That's out of context to piracy.

Again

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It’s an age-old crime: stealing.

But it’s not about picking a pocket or holding up a bank. It’s robbing people of their ideas, inventions, and creative expressions—what’s called intellectual property—everything from trade secrets and proprietary products and parts to movies and music and software.

It’s a growing threat—especially with the rise of digital technologies and Internet file sharing networks. And much of the theft takes place overseas, where laws are often lax and enforcement more difficult. All told, intellectual property theft costs U.S. businesses billions of dollars a year and robs the nation of jobs and lost tax revenues.

Preventing intellectual property theft is a priority of the FBI’s criminal investigative program. We specifically focus on the theft of trade secrets and infringements on products that can impact consumers’ health and safety, such as counterfeit aircraft, car, and electronic parts. Key to our success is linking the considerable resources and efforts of the private sector with law enforcement partners on local, state, federal, and international levels."

That is taken direct from the FBI.gov site. You are welcome to disagree with what they think but in the long run who do you think matters the most.

That's an opinion statement not legal one.

The FBI obviously doesn't consider piracy to be stealing because the United States law does not consider piracy to be stealing.

You're embarrassing yourself with each post.

TO MAKE IT REALLY SIMPLE:

Theft and copyright infringement are 2 completely different ENTITIES when it comes to the US LAW.

If you don't understand this simple fact there's literally nothing anyone can tell you to get you out of your inane babbling.

Are you really this thick or is it all a act?

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about so wasting a ounce of time on trying to convince you of what is right is a pointless task so enjoy your ignorance.

Keep in mind I'm the only one who's backed his opinions while you've been talking out your ass all this time.

kbai

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#109 Jacanuk
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@jimmy_russell said:

@Jacanuk said:

@jimmy_russell said:

Can you show me/link me the legal context in which theft occured via a digital medium? Because that would literally require interception of digital transmissions and actual physical theft of communications by way of hijacking. That's out of context to piracy.

Again

"

It’s an age-old crime: stealing.

But it’s not about picking a pocket or holding up a bank. It’s robbing people of their ideas, inventions, and creative expressions—what’s called intellectual property—everything from trade secrets and proprietary products and parts to movies and music and software.

It’s a growing threat—especially with the rise of digital technologies and Internet file sharing networks. And much of the theft takes place overseas, where laws are often lax and enforcement more difficult. All told, intellectual property theft costs U.S. businesses billions of dollars a year and robs the nation of jobs and lost tax revenues.

Preventing intellectual property theft is a priority of the FBI’s criminal investigative program. We specifically focus on the theft of trade secrets and infringements on products that can impact consumers’ health and safety, such as counterfeit aircraft, car, and electronic parts. Key to our success is linking the considerable resources and efforts of the private sector with law enforcement partners on local, state, federal, and international levels."

That is taken direct from the FBI.gov site. You are welcome to disagree with what they think but in the long run who do you think matters the most.

Who matters most? Certainly, not the government or its agencies... I'm a libertarian socialist. Freedom and liberty matter the most to me, and should matter the most to you, also. "Consumer access to adequate information to enable making informed choices according to individual wishes and needs" is a priority to me, and under the United Nations Guidelines for Consumer Protection, downloading materials for personal use to make informed purchase decisions is perfectly legitimate.

As Hobbes said there needs to be a social contract and without a strong state , humans will turn to wild animals. So yes freedom and liberty is good but we only have it because we have a strong state to secure it for us.

And UN is not a strong power they are as useless as a cold drink on the north pole. So who cares what they think, what matters is still local and state laws which FBI is set to enforce.

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#110 The_Last_Ride
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@The_Last_Ride

Yes... And it pains me dearly... :(

How so?

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#111 Lulu_Lulu
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@The_Last_Ride

I had 1st hand experience with Ubisoft's always online DRM when it 1st appeared on ACII.

That plus steam is annoying.

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#112  Edited By Jacanuk
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@The_Last_Ride

I had 1st hand experience with Ubisoft's always online DRM when it 1st appeared on ACII.

That plus steam is annoying.

Ubisofts what? i have multiple AC games and they are all uplay + steam and i haven't had one single problem with anything to the sort of "always online"

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#113 Lulu_Lulu
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Ofcourse you haven't buddy.... I'm assuming you didn't go retail ?