"On June 9th, the PS4 stays the same."

#1 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72285 posts) -

This is Sony's response to the price drop.

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Today Microsoft announced some sweeping changes to the Xbox One, including a price cut that begins on June 9th. Here's how PlayStation France responded to the news:

A partir du 09/06 : la #PS4 reste la même ;-) #4ThePlayerspic.twitter.com/xN8w4AoX4k

— PlayStation France (@playstationfr) May 13, 2014

Translation (via NeoGAF): "On June 9th, the PS4 stays the same."

In other words, Sony's shrugging at Microsoft's announcements. The big changes for the Xbox One - the $399 SKU, removal of a pay-wall for entertainment apps and expansion of Games with Gold - simply bring that console in line with the PS4's offering since launch.

While Sony (or the employee manning the PlayStation France Twitter account) might not consider the Xbox One changes all that ground-breaking, they are important. Microsoft is correcting three major concerns that gamers had with the Xbox One. These concerns were selling points for the PS4. Come next month, it's harder for Sony to argue that their console is the better value than the Xbox One. A gamer still deciding between PS4 and Xbox One won't care which console was $399 first.

Lowering the price of the Xbox One and offering free games and entertainment apps isn't enough to put Microsoft in the lead, though. The PS4 still has a big advantages in sales. Microsoft has to convince gamers that their console is worth $399, and that it's a better use of $399 than the PS4. It's not sufficient for Xbox One to replicate the PS4's features. It needs to offer something unique, such as incredible exclusives.

The June changes for Xbox One put the focus back on software. With major gaps in prices and features removed, the biggest differences between the PS4 and Xbox One now lay in their game libraries.

"The reason people buy these consoles is to play games," Xbox Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer Yusuf Mehdi said in an interview with Forbes today. "We’ve got the best games line-up. We had the best games line-up this past holiday if you talk to most experts in the games industry. As we go into E3, you’re going to see an incredible games line-up. Knock on wood, I believe we’re going to have a great games line-up for this coming holiday as well."

Today was a great day for the Xbox One. It doesn't put the PS4 on the defensive just yet but that could change at E3. If Microsoft has a better lineup of games during their press conference, Sony won't be able to use the PS4's lower price as a defense.

#2 Posted by c_rakestraw (14716 posts) -

Not really surprising. Long as the PS4 keeps selling gangbusters at $400, there's no reason to drop the price. A price cut would be better timed for the holidays than E3 right now, anyway.

#3 Edited by jasean79 (2375 posts) -

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

#4 Edited by marcheegsr (2835 posts) -

To be brutally honest, I planned on buying a x1 sometime after I got my ps4 but to be honest I feel it would be a waist of money even at $399.

If it was $299 and it came with Forza 5 or Titanfall than I would get it.

#5 Edited by The_Last_Ride (72285 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

Exactly my thoughts. Kinect was Garbage and they finally fucking removed the paywall!

#6 Edited by c_rakestraw (14716 posts) -
@The_Last_Ride said:

@jasean79 said:

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

Exactly my thoughts. Kinect was Garbage and they finally fucking removed the paywall!

For video apps, anyway.

#7 Edited by The_Last_Ride (72285 posts) -

@c_rakestraw said:
@The_Last_Ride said:

@jasean79 said:

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

Exactly my thoughts. Kinect was Garbage and they finally fucking removed the paywall!

For video apps, anyway.

I canceled my subscription because in europe, Live is a joke. You only get multiplayer and Netflix, that's it!

#8 Edited by MirkoS77 (7581 posts) -

How is there not a difference? Is the One still not the weaker machine? I'm not much for System Wars bullshit, but as I hear it the One is 50% weaker? I'm not saying that from any sense of misguided allegiance, but from what I've seen all the software concessions are still being made on MS's side and I do care for the better version. On top of this, I hear (or I've heard, don't know if this stands true now) that the UI is a mess. Finally, has everyone forgotten about what MS tried to pull last E3? This seems to be a quickly forgotten event. This is what MS is counting on.

Even with this news, the only thing MS has going for it are its exclusives, so they better bring it on at E3 if they even want me to begin to regain my attention, because as far as I'm concerned they've got the weaker machine, worse multi-plats, weak exclusives, overly cumbersome UI, I'm not subscribing to Gold when I'm already on PSN+ and am planning to get PS Now as well. Finally, their DRM crap resides in the back of my mind.

Who cares? MS still fucked up bad, and they've a lot of ground to recover.

#9 Posted by Archangel3371 (15736 posts) -

Well that sucks. I would have loved for them to have made a price cut also so I could get a cheaper PS4. Oh well.

#10 Posted by firefox59 (4403 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride said:

@jasean79 said:

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

Exactly my thoughts. Kinect was Garbage and they finally fucking removed the paywall!

I don't understand the big deal behind the paywall. Kinect, yeah that's a legit complaint. Who doesn't play any games online and doesn't already have a Gold subscription? How is paying $30 a year such a big fricken deal. And don't give me that $60 a year crap. If you pay full price for Gold that's your fault.

#11 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72285 posts) -

@firefox59 said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@jasean79 said:

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

Exactly my thoughts. Kinect was Garbage and they finally fucking removed the paywall!

I don't understand the big deal behind the paywall. Kinect, yeah that's a legit complaint. Who doesn't play any games online and doesn't already have a Gold subscription? How is paying $30 a year such a big fricken deal. And don't give me that $60 a year crap. If you pay full price for Gold that's your fault.

No it's not my fault, because we pay more for it in europe, and i can't buy the freaking Live codes online. So don't give me that crap... I pay 80 bucks for it if i am payiing for it, which i am not. Don't come with "it's not a big deal". When free apps are free on EVERY other device except for on Xbox platforms, then there is something wrong. Your argument is weak. Not everyone plays online, even though i have great connection i don't play online. I play singleplayer for the most part. There is nothing wrong with that...

#12 Posted by jasean79 (2375 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride said:

@firefox59 said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@jasean79 said:

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

Exactly my thoughts. Kinect was Garbage and they finally fucking removed the paywall!

I don't understand the big deal behind the paywall. Kinect, yeah that's a legit complaint. Who doesn't play any games online and doesn't already have a Gold subscription? How is paying $30 a year such a big fricken deal. And don't give me that $60 a year crap. If you pay full price for Gold that's your fault.

No it's not my fault, because we pay more for it in europe, and i can't buy the freaking Live codes online. So don't give me that crap... I pay 80 bucks for it if i am payiing for it, which i am not. Don't come with "it's not a big deal". When free apps are free on EVERY other device except for on Xbox platforms, then there is something wrong. Your argument is weak. Not everyone plays online, even though i have great connection i don't play online. I play singleplayer for the most part. There is nothing wrong with that...

I agree with you. My Xbox Gold membership ran out earlier this month and I didn't renew. The only thing I'll be missing out on is the 2 free games a month, but most of what they've been offering has been subpar titles anyway.

As far as gold being $30 a year...I've never seen the price that low. Even on Amazon, the best they've ever offered is $40. Granted, it's not going to break the bank, but like you said lastride, paying for apps that are free on every other platform is silly. Totally agree with you there.

#13 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18510 posts) -

Why would they drop the price when the system is selling like hotcakes? People should use that head meat.

#14 Edited by The_Last_Ride (72285 posts) -

@jasean79 said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@firefox59 said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@jasean79 said:

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

Exactly my thoughts. Kinect was Garbage and they finally fucking removed the paywall!

I don't understand the big deal behind the paywall. Kinect, yeah that's a legit complaint. Who doesn't play any games online and doesn't already have a Gold subscription? How is paying $30 a year such a big fricken deal. And don't give me that $60 a year crap. If you pay full price for Gold that's your fault.

No it's not my fault, because we pay more for it in europe, and i can't buy the freaking Live codes online. So don't give me that crap... I pay 80 bucks for it if i am payiing for it, which i am not. Don't come with "it's not a big deal". When free apps are free on EVERY other device except for on Xbox platforms, then there is something wrong. Your argument is weak. Not everyone plays online, even though i have great connection i don't play online. I play singleplayer for the most part. There is nothing wrong with that...

I agree with you. My Xbox Gold membership ran out earlier this month and I didn't renew. The only thing I'll be missing out on is the 2 free games a month, but most of what they've been offering has been subpar titles anyway.

As far as gold being $30 a year...I've never seen the price that low. Even on Amazon, the best they've ever offered is $40. Granted, it's not going to break the bank, but like you said lastride, paying for apps that are free on every other platform is silly. Totally agree with you there.

I didn't redeem a single game, because i have the games i want from it already and i have no interest in the rest. It's a bad argument he's coming with anyway.

#15 Posted by shellcase86 (1934 posts) -

And it should.

At this point, Sony has complete advantage over MSFT. Sony hasn't had to abandon their strategy or products or policies after launching, in order to attain parity. Until their is parity, and this price drop doens't guarantee their will be, Sony needs to do nothing more than release software.

#16 Edited by The_Last_Ride (72285 posts) -

@shellcase86 said:

And it should.

At this point, Sony has complete advantage over MSFT. Sony hasn't had to abandon their strategy or products or policies after launching, in order to attain parity. Until their is parity, and this price drop doens't guarantee their will be, Sony needs to do nothing more than release software.

Xbox 180 has had something disastrous happening to it. Everything it stood for is gone

#17 Edited by firefox59 (4403 posts) -

@The_Last_Ride said:

@firefox59 said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@jasean79 said:

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

Exactly my thoughts. Kinect was Garbage and they finally fucking removed the paywall!

I don't understand the big deal behind the paywall. Kinect, yeah that's a legit complaint. Who doesn't play any games online and doesn't already have a Gold subscription? How is paying $30 a year such a big fricken deal. And don't give me that $60 a year crap. If you pay full price for Gold that's your fault.

No it's not my fault, because we pay more for it in europe, and i can't buy the freaking Live codes online. So don't give me that crap... I pay 80 bucks for it if i am payiing for it, which i am not. Don't come with "it's not a big deal". When free apps are free on EVERY other device except for on Xbox platforms, then there is something wrong. Your argument is weak. Not everyone plays online, even though i have great connection i don't play online. I play singleplayer for the most part. There is nothing wrong with that...

1. Why can't you buy codes online? 2. If it's free on EVERY other device than why would anyone pay money to use their xbox for those services. They wouldn't. People pay for gold for the online MP. Again if you pay to get Netflix on your xbox and don't play games online then that is your fault. It just doesn't make sense.

#18 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72285 posts) -

@firefox59 said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@firefox59 said:

@The_Last_Ride said:

@jasean79 said:

MS could've saved themselves a whole lot of trouble and did this from the get go. That Kinect is garbage and everyone knows it's not advanced enough technology to carry MS thru for the win.

Exactly my thoughts. Kinect was Garbage and they finally fucking removed the paywall!

I don't understand the big deal behind the paywall. Kinect, yeah that's a legit complaint. Who doesn't play any games online and doesn't already have a Gold subscription? How is paying $30 a year such a big fricken deal. And don't give me that $60 a year crap. If you pay full price for Gold that's your fault.

No it's not my fault, because we pay more for it in europe, and i can't buy the freaking Live codes online. So don't give me that crap... I pay 80 bucks for it if i am payiing for it, which i am not. Don't come with "it's not a big deal". When free apps are free on EVERY other device except for on Xbox platforms, then there is something wrong. Your argument is weak. Not everyone plays online, even though i have great connection i don't play online. I play singleplayer for the most part. There is nothing wrong with that...

1. Why can't you buy codes online? 2. If it's free on EVERY other device than why would anyone pay money to use their xbox for those services. They wouldn't. People pay for gold for the online MP. Again if you pay to get Netflix on your xbox and don't play games online then that is your fault. It just doesn't make sense.

Because it's restricted to NA or my country isn't involved in the deal.

2, If this wasn't a big deal, then why the hell did they change it? No it's freaking not. Having a paywall for something you already subscribe to is freaking stupid... Your basicly paying double for something you want to watch... IT DOES make sense! Demanding a paywall for free apps is despicable and that's why they freaking changed it, jeez

#19 Edited by HipHopBeats (2903 posts) -

Microsoft is backpedaling like a mofu. They have to in order to keep X1 relevant. No one wants that Kinect bullshit which will probably get discontinued a year or two from now. Sony's response is pretty valid. It's up there with this classic response.

#20 Posted by Master_Of_Fools (1367 posts) -

@c_rakestraw: PS4 is $450 here in Canada, plus PS4 games are $70 from now on...