New MGSV Previews - IGN turns MGSV into a shitty Splinter Cell clone.

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#1 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

I dont even care anymore. This series is dead to me.

From the IGN preview:

Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes - The Splinter Cell Effect
Slow-mo executions, regenerating health, and more changes coming.


Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes seems, above all else, safe, despite its subtle but significant changes. The prologue to Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, which eases players to the main games open-world elements, introduces numerous new elements to the franchise, none of which stand out as exceptionally interesting on their own. In unison, one after the other, and in the context of the next Big Boss story, these changes shake up the norm, disrupting expectations with more modern systems. The stealth, action, interrogation, infiltration, and navigation mechanics feel familiar in ways that feel equal parts right and wrong.

When I left the debut gameplay demo of Ground Zeroes, one thought looped in my mind: This is an exceptional Splinter Cell sequel.


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Boss sprints, slides, climbs, and tags enemies like Sam Fisher has since 2009s Splinter Cell: Conviction.

Before a guard enters an alert state, youll get a button prompt indicating youre busted. Hold the left trigger, and youll briefly freeze time, giving you the opportunity to pump a couple quiet bullets into an alarmed enemys eyeballs.

Ground Zeroes is deviating from whats always made the series special to me. If youre a Splinter Cell fan, you may be having deja vu. This has Conviction written all over it.IGN

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Get that Sam Fisher easy mode out of my MGS.

More previews:

There are other sites with previews too:

http://www.gamespot.com/features/doe...takes-6414131/
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/unra...l-gear-solid-v
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/v...s-field-report
http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/6/4700...ke-has-changed
https://www.shacknews.com/article/81...zeroes-preview

gametrailers report here: http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/v...s-field-report

Kotaku here: http://kotaku.com/ive-seen-metal-gea...ium=Socialflow


#2 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (9936 posts) -
It will be a Splinter Cell Movie Clone.
#3 Posted by AdrianWerner (27960 posts) -

Conviction has much better gameplay than any MGS game ever madre, so at least he's taking inspiration from the right place.

#4 Posted by CarnageHeart (18316 posts) -

He's aping the crappy modern SC games? Kojima is doing to MGS what George Lucas did to Star Wars.

#5 Posted by platinumking320 (663 posts) -
There's shadowing another game mechanic because you're trying to cash in on the popularity of the former, and then there's shadowing a game mechanic because it's hands down the best way to implement it in a stealth genre. So splinter cell got to the finish line 1st. Meh. Everyones known that for years. At some point its inevitable, and its hard to beat a stealth of that caliber anyways. There's a reason people don't charge excess royalties for copied mechanics anyways.
#6 Posted by Areez (6278 posts) -

I actually like some of the new features in the game. Is it me, or does Snake look a bit like Chuck Norris?

 

 

#7 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -
And Solid falls for the crappy IGN article. The IGN MGS preview is garbage, other sites explain it all much better. There is no mark and execute, the game has a slow mo moment where you can kill a guard before the game goes into alert. Kojima says he does this cause when the game is full open world you its super hard to keep track of everyone so you would be going into alert all the time. I do not like that it has CoD like health regen, stupid black and white screen garbage. Animations seem fantastic, Snake moves much more fluid. More gameplay less cutscenes. He got to escape on a jeep and helicopter while engaged in a firefight, should make things more dynamic. Its MGS it will be fantastic.
#8 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18196 posts) -
Yikes. Then again who cares, no one plays Metal Gear for the gameplay
#9 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -
Yikes. Then again who cares, no one plays Metal Gear for the gameplayBlack_Knight_00
Yes they do.
#10 Posted by F1Lengend (7883 posts) -
Yikes. Then again who cares, noRegenplays Metal Gear for the gameplayBlack_Knight_00
Well, no one plays Splinter Cell period, so why ape a series that no one cares about. I can understand some of the changes koji is making but it just goes to show you open world games aren't necessarily better and come at a cost to game design (at times). Regen health is the worst offender, get that sh1t out of here.
#11 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Yikes. Then again who cares, no one plays Metal Gear for the gameplayBlack_Knight_00

Terrible Post.

3/10.

#12 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Yikes. Then again who cares, noRegenplays Metal Gear for the gameplayF1Lengend
Well, no one plays Splinter Cell period, so why ape a series that no one cares about. I can understand some of the changes koji is making but it just goes to show you open world games aren't necessarily better and come at a cost to game design (at times). Regen health is the worst offender, get that sh1t out of here.

I have no clue why they need regen health anyway. MGS4 had like ten different items that worked as rations.

#13 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18196 posts) -
Yay for regen health, no more stupid rations, ramen noodles and chili chips to regain life! That was f*cking stupid :D
#14 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -
They should ape Splinter Cell, then we can have this game be a real stealth game again. With some good gameplay to boot.
#15 Posted by Areez (6278 posts) -

Yay for regen health, no more stupid rations, ramen noodles and chili chips to regain life! That was f*cking stupid :DBlack_Knight_00

I like the rations...reminds of the of the first Metal Gear on the NES :)

#16 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

They should ape Splinter Cell, then we can have this game be a real stealth game again. With some good gameplay to boot.GodModeEnabled

SC wishes it had half the stealth gameplay MGS games do. I have more options in one tiny section of MGS than I do in most entire SC games. The day Sam Fisher can capture a venomous snake alive, then sneak toward a guard and throw it at one, having the snake bite the guard and knock him out, then maybe we can talk. Or something more simple like make a noise and camo right into a statue while the guard passes right by you to investigate the noise, you can even leave him a dirty magazine to keep him occupied for a while.

#17 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Yay for regen health, no more stupid rations, ramen noodles and chili chips to regain life! That was f*cking stupid :DAreez

I like the rations...reminds of the of the first Metal Gear on the NES :)

And every Metal Gear ever...

#18 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]They should ape Splinter Cell, then we can have this game be a real stealth game again. With some good gameplay to boot.dvader654

SC wishes it had half the stealth gameplay MGS games do. I have more options in one tiny section of MGS than I do in most entire SC games. The day Sam Fisher can capture a venomous snake alive, then sneak toward a guard and throw it at one, having the snake bite the guard and knock him out, then maybe we can talk. Or something more simple like make a noise and camo right into a statue while the guard passes right by you to investigate the noise, you can even leave him a dirty magazine to keep him occupied for a while.

Sam Fisher doesn't do all that stupid bullshit and instead kills the guy or ghosts him, and moves on with the mission instead of playing with animals, dirty magazines, or makeup-- he is being an actual superspy assassin. Metal Gear had a nice mix of stealth and action originally, then it got skewed in favor of action and lost altogether with the advent of it's nonsense anime storytelling which replaces most of the gameplay with cutscenes now.
#19 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]They should ape Splinter Cell, then we can have this game be a real stealth game again. With some good gameplay to boot.GodModeEnabled

SC wishes it had half the stealth gameplay MGS games do. I have more options in one tiny section of MGS than I do in most entire SC games. The day Sam Fisher can capture a venomous snake alive, then sneak toward a guard and throw it at one, having the snake bite the guard and knock him out, then maybe we can talk. Or something more simple like make a noise and camo right into a statue while the guard passes right by you to investigate the noise, you can even leave him a dirty magazine to keep him occupied for a while.

Sam Fisher doesn't do all that stupid bullshit and instead kills the guy or ghosts him, and moves on with the mission instead of playing with animals, dirty magazines, or makeup-- he is being an actual superspy assassin. Metal Gear had a nice mix of stealth and action originally, then it got skewed in favor of action and lost altogether with the advent of it's nonsense anime storytelling which replaces most of the gameplay withcutscenes now.

Sam does the same action over and over, simple (not boring cause the games are really fun) gameplay. MGS allows for complete gameplay freedom. What would you rather play?

#20 Posted by D3s7rUc71oN (5180 posts) -

They should ape Splinter Cell, then we can have this game be a real stealth game again. With some good gameplay to boot.GodModeEnabled

This, I don't see how this is bad. SC has better controls and stealth gameplay. Given the open world nature of the game it makes sense they go with regenerating health

#21 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]They should ape Splinter Cell, then we can have this game be a real stealth game again. With some good gameplay to boot.D3s7rUc71oN

This, I don't see how this is bad. SC has better controls and stealth gameplay. Given the open world nature of the game it makes sense they go with regenerating health

Its like a free pass, I have never liked it in any game. This game has large areas to explore, give a reason to explore them, finding that ration you needed in the back corner of a room in the base is a huge moment. Being almost dead, while being hunted is the kind of experiences MGS excells at. Imagine taking out a lone guard and shaking him to see if he has a ration or not, the moment you get that ration its a big deal. It keeps you on your toes, it allows for some planning, if you know you are going up against a boss you want a few with you. 

Health regen takes all of that away.

#22 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18196 posts) -

Sam does the same action over and over, boring gameplay. MGS allows for complete gameplay freedom. What would you rather play?dvader654
There's no point in comparing Splinter Cell and Metal Gear, they're not even remotely trying to do the same thing. I for one welcome the change of gameplay in Metal Gear though, the shooting in MGS4 still felt like Virtua Cop and the complete lack of realism was just irritating to me. The cover system was barely functional and the clown car enemy respawns were just awful. MGS4 is a game that deserves a 10 for the story alone, if that weren't there the gameplay would just be "ok". I'm glad they finally took a cue from the West, though I fear they may go overboard and casualize it too much.

#23 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="dvader654"]

SC wishes it had half the stealth gameplay MGS games do. I have more options in one tiny section of MGS than I do in most entire SC games. The day Sam Fisher can capture a venomous snake alive, then sneak toward a guard and throw it at one, having the snake bite the guard and knock him out, then maybe we can talk. Or something more simple like make a noise and camo right into a statue while the guard passes right by you to investigate the noise, you can even leave him a dirty magazine to keep him occupied for a while.

dvader654

Sam Fisher doesn't do all that stupid bullshit and instead kills the guy or ghosts him, and moves on with the mission instead of playing with animals, dirty magazines, or makeup-- he is being an actual superspy assassin. Metal Gear had a nice mix of stealth and action originally, then it got skewed in favor of action and lost altogether with the advent of it's nonsense anime storytelling which replaces most of the gameplay withcutscenes now.

Sam does the same action over and over, simple (not boring cause the games are really fun) gameplay. MGS allows for complete gameplay freedom. What would you rather play?

Splintercell. Better designed game overall, better stealth gameplay, movement, control, mechanics, story etc. Metal Gear playing more like Splintercell only helps it out.
#24 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -
MGS4 is a game that deserves a 10 for the story alone,Black_Knight_00
#25 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18196 posts) -

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]MGS4 is a game that deserves a 10 for the story alone,GodModeEnabled

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#26 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"] Sam Fisher doesn't do all that stupid bullshit and instead kills the guy or ghosts him, and moves on with the mission instead of playing with animals, dirty magazines, or makeup-- he is being an actual superspy assassin. Metal Gear had a nice mix of stealth and action originally, then it got skewed in favor of action and lost altogether with the advent of it's nonsense anime storytelling which replaces most of the gameplay withcutscenes now.GodModeEnabled

Sam does the same action over and over, simple (not boring cause the games are really fun) gameplay. MGS allows for complete gameplay freedom. What would you rather play?

Splintercell. Better designed game overall, better stealth gameplay, movement, control, mechanics, story etc. Metal Gear playing more like Splintercell only helps it out.

Better designed game? No, in no way no. Every MGS game takes a new gameplay system and explores it to its fullest. It doesnt even stop there, its not like all of MGS3 was simply about hiding in camo. Kojima understands the need for variety, for gameplay surprises, for moments where everything you have been doing up to that point needs to be thought of in a different way to proceed. There are boss battles that make you think way outside the box and adds a boost to the gameplay. 

Fighting the exact same soilder over and over again does not make for good design. How are all those SC boss battles... oh wait there are none. Remember the time where you had to escape in a giant car chase? nope cause SC games dont have any gameplay surprises. They are well designed for the kinds of games they are but they are very basic. They take no chances, they dont really explore the depths of the gameplay and basically they all play it safe.

MGS is always trying out new things. Crazy things no one thinks of and as always it gives YOU the ultimate freedom to do as you want. Get caught in some of the SC games its game over. MGS getting caught is just one option of a ton of different options at your disposal. They are the ultimate stealth action playground games. Can you really play an entire SC game without being seen, or without killing anyone? I bet you cant cause they have heavily scripted moments that force you to do something. MGS does not, you can get through a whole game without killing anyone, even the bosses, you just have to be very smart about it. Or you can do the opposite, kill every person you see, or for instance collect all their tags in MGS2. 

And then there are the hidden stuff in the MGS games. Full conversations, hidden codec stations, some that even call in airstrike. Hidden mini games within dreams. Easter eggs around every corner. Hidden music files in MGS4, hidden frogs in MGS3. To see everything these games have to offer you have to play them 3 or 4 times.

SC has NONE OF THAT. It is a very basic by the book action game. A very good one with excellent mechanics and I will give you it controls better than MGS but that is where it stops. The MGS games design are way better,

#27 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Adding to what dvader said above, Splinter Cell is the definition of a western game. Solid gameplay. Solid mechanics. But by the numbers and has no soul.

#28 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Splintercell. Better designed game overall, better stealth gameplay, movement, control, mechanics, story etc. Metal Gear playing more like Splintercell only helps it out.GodModeEnabled

Fail.

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#29 Posted by shellcase86 (1934 posts) -

As long as it retains the series' charm, zany characters, fun dynamics, and off the wall story--then I'm all in.

#30 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]Splintercell. Better designed game overall, better stealth gameplay, movement, control, mechanics, story etc. Metal Gear playing more like Splintercell only helps it out.S0lidSnake

Fail.

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OMG that is horrible.

#31 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]Splintercell. Better designed game overall, better stealth gameplay, movement, control, mechanics, story etc. Metal Gear playing more like Splintercell only helps it out.S0lidSnake

Fail.

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First of all hilarity gif is hilarious. Second if you are gonna make an entire thread deriding Splinter Cell I am going to come out and defend it as the much better designed and playable game that it is. At least I don't need three buttons to fire a gun, and there is actual stealth.
#32 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -
[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]Splintercell. Better designed game overall, better stealth gameplay, movement, control, mechanics, story etc. Metal Gear playing more like Splintercell only helps it out.GodModeEnabled

Fail.

First of all hilarity gif is hilarious. Second if you are gonna make an entire thread deriding Splinter Cell I am going to come out and defend it as the much better designed and playable game that it is. At least I don't need three buttons to fire a gun, and there is actual stealth.

Nah it's cool. I was just looking for an excuse to post that gif. :lol: I really liked splinter cell conviction too.

#33 Posted by GodModeEnabled (15314 posts) -
I actually thought the demo of MGS5 looked neat with all the sneaking around and using the environment, So I am cautiously optimistic it will be good and heavier on gameplay that story. I like most of what I see so far.
#34 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]Splintercell. Better designed game overall, better stealth gameplay, movement, control, mechanics, story etc. Metal Gear playing more like Splintercell only helps it out.GodModeEnabled

Fail.

 

First of all hilarity gif is hilarious. Second if you are gonna make an entire thread deriding Splinter Cell I am going to come out and defend it as the much better designed and playable game that it is. At least I don't need three buttons to fire a gun, and there is actual stealth.

Spoken like a man who has never beaten a MGS game without being spotted. 

#35 Posted by Shame-usBlackley (18266 posts) -

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

Fail.

 

dvader654

First of all hilarity gif is hilarious. Second if you are gonna make an entire thread deriding Splinter Cell I am going to come out and defend it as the much better designed and playable game that it is. At least I don't need three buttons to fire a gun, and there is actual stealth.

Spoken like a man who has never beaten a MGS game without being spotted. 

I don't get the Splinter Cell hatred. It had many improvements to the genre like light/dark mechanics and a rotatable camera before Metal Gear. And Metal Gear seriously needs new gadgets. SC's gadgets are more fun to use.

I played Metal Gear for the story, but now that that's fvcked to hell and back, I don't see any reason for Metal Gear fans to sneer at Splinter Cell. Perhaps the other way around. 

#36 Posted by AcidSoldner (7051 posts) -
People need to chill out with this preview. The game was being played on the easiest difficulty setting, thus the regenerating health. There is no way in hell Kojima would take out Rations, an iconic series staple. That'd be almost as bad as removing the Cardboard Box. The marking is a result of the minimalist UI and lack of active Radar on the screen coupled with the much larger open world environments. From what the press has been able to tell, you can't just tap a button and mark an enemy instantly like in Conviction, you have to bust out your binoculars and then mark the enemies from afar. Slo-mo once spotted seems kind of a cop out though. MGS3 had no active Radar and somehow player managed enemy patrols with either nothing or Radar items that sapped up their batteries pretty quickly.
#37 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"] First of all hilarity gif is hilarious. Second if you are gonna make an entire thread deriding Splinter Cell I am going to come out and defend it as the much better designed and playable game that it is. At least I don't need three buttons to fire a gun, and there is actual stealth.Shame-usBlackley

Spoken like a man who has never beaten a MGS game without being spotted. 

I don't get the Splinter Cell hatred. It had many improvements to the genre like light/dark mechanics and a rotatable camera before Metal Gear. And Metal Gear seriously needs new gadgets. SC's gadgets are more fun to use.

I played Metal Gear for the story, but now that that's fvcked to hell and back, I don't see any reason for Metal Gear fans to sneer at Splinter Cell. Perhaps the other way around. 

There is no hate here, I think SC is a great game. But here is a MGS thread and what happens, a bunch of people come in and start saying SC has better gameplay and is better designed. Sorry but I don't agree with that for a second so I will defend it. 

There is a reason why the MGS series is considered one of the greatest in all of gaming and its not just cause it has insane stories. 

As for enhancements to the controls, most of the stuff they mentioned like better mobility and better controls are all good. Take those ideas from SC, just dont take the structure nor the way that game handles being caught and how it handles combat versus stealth. MGS has done it far better in the past. 

#38 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

Spoken like a man who has never beaten a MGS game without being spotted. 

dvader654

I don't get the Splinter Cell hatred. It had many improvements to the genre like light/dark mechanics and a rotatable camera before Metal Gear. And Metal Gear seriously needs new gadgets. SC's gadgets are more fun to use.

I played Metal Gear for the story, but now that that's fvcked to hell and back, I don't see any reason for Metal Gear fans to sneer at Splinter Cell. Perhaps the other way around. 

There is no hate here, I think SC is a great game. But here is a MGS thread and what happens, a bunch of people come in and start saying SC has better gameplay and is better designed. Sorry but I don't agree with that for a second so I will defend it. 

There is a reason why the MGS series is considered one of the greatest in all of gaming and its not just cause it has insane stories. 

As for enhancements to the controls, most of the stuff they mentioned like better mobility and better controls are all good. Take those ideas from SC, just dont take the structure nor the way that game handles being caught and how it handles combat versus stealth. MGS has done it far better in the past. 

well i guess i am to blamed here since my controversial thread title attracted a bunch of Splinter Cell fans. :P

#39 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

I don't get the Splinter Cell hatred. It had many improvements to the genre like light/dark mechanics and a rotatable camera before Metal Gear. And Metal Gear seriously needs new gadgets. SC's gadgets are more fun to use.

I played Metal Gear for the story, but now that that's fvcked to hell and back, I don't see any reason for Metal Gear fans to sneer at Splinter Cell. Perhaps the other way around. 

S0lidSnake

There is no hate here, I think SC is a great game. But here is a MGS thread and what happens, a bunch of people come in and start saying SC has better gameplay and is better designed. Sorry but I don't agree with that for a second so I will defend it. 

There is a reason why the MGS series is considered one of the greatest in all of gaming and its not just cause it has insane stories. 

As for enhancements to the controls, most of the stuff they mentioned like better mobility and better controls are all good. Take those ideas from SC, just dont take the structure nor the way that game handles being caught and how it handles combat versus stealth. MGS has done it far better in the past. 

well i guess i am to blamed here since my controversial thread title attracted a bunch of Splinter Cell fans. :P

That is true... its all your fault as usual. I have no problem with SC and I don't believe that preview makes it look like a SC clone, its just IGN being stupid. That said I dont want MGS to become SC, nor would I assume SC fans would want SC to be MGS.
#40 Posted by S0lidSnake (29001 posts) -

Which MGS game lets you call airstrikes? Peace Walker, right?

#41 Posted by AcidSoldner (7051 posts) -

Which MGS game lets you call airstrikes? Peace Walker, right?

S0lidSnake
Artillery strikes, but yeah, Peace Walker. You call it in using the Strike Support Marker.
#42 Posted by El_Zo1212o (6005 posts) -
[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Yikes. Then again who cares, no one plays Metal Gear for the gameplaydvader654
Yes they do.

They must- no one could possibly play it for the confusing-ass story...
#43 Posted by El_Zo1212o (6005 posts) -
[QUOTE="dvader654"]

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"] Sam Fisher doesn't do all that stupid bullshit and instead kills the guy or ghosts him, and moves on with the mission instead of playing with animals, dirty magazines, or makeup-- he is being an actual superspy assassin. Metal Gear had a nice mix of stealth and action originally, then it got skewed in favor of action and lost altogether with the advent of it's nonsense anime storytelling which replaces most of the gameplay withcutscenes now.GodModeEnabled

Sam does the same action over and over, simple (not boring cause the games are really fun) gameplay. MGS allows for complete gameplay freedom. What would you rather play?

Splintercell. Better designed game overall, better stealth gameplay, movement, control, mechanics, story etc. Metal Gear playing more like Splintercell only helps it out.

Stealth is optional in Splinter Cell(at least as of Conviction. As of Snake Eater, being spotted in Metal Gear still ended in bullet-riddled death more often than not.
#44 Posted by dvader654 (44752 posts) -

Which MGS game lets you call airstrikes? Peace Walker, right?

S0lidSnake
Actually mgs3 does. You can interrogate a guard to give you a codec frequency that calls in an air attack. Do people know this, no cause Kojima is so awesome he hides all this stuff for only the most dedicated players find it.
#45 Posted by c_rakestraw (14579 posts) -

Actually mgs3 does. You can interrogate a guard to give you a codec frequency that calls in an air attack. Do people know this, no cause Kojima is so awesome he hides all this stuff for only the most dedicated players find it.dvader654

So it's like Dark Souls.

#46 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18196 posts) -
[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

Which MGS game lets you call airstrikes? Peace Walker, right?

dvader654
Actually mgs3 does. You can interrogate a guard to give you a codec frequency that calls in an air attack. Do people know this, no cause Kojima is so awesome he hides all this stuff for only the most dedicated players find it.

Is there a codec frequence that fixes the controls so you don't have to hold 5 1/2 buttons just to aim your gun?
#47 Posted by AtlanticRock (8122 posts) -

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]MGS4 is a game that deserves a 10 for the story alone,GodModeEnabled

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#48 Posted by Metamania (11964 posts) -

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]Yikes. Then again who cares, noRegenplays Metal Gear for the gameplayF1Lengend
Well, no one plays Splinter Cell period, so why ape a series that no one cares about. I can understand some of the changes koji is making but it just goes to show you open world games aren't necessarily better and come at a cost to game design (at times). Regen health is the worst offender, get that sh1t out of here.

Uh, are you on drugs or something? "No one plays Splinter Cell period?" You are so full of it. I play Splinter Cell and I enjoy Blacklist and I even enjoyed Conviction to a higher degree than most people. So don't speak for me. EVER!

#49 Posted by Metamania (11964 posts) -

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="dvader654"]

Sam does the same action over and over, simple (not boring cause the games are really fun) gameplay. MGS allows for complete gameplay freedom. What would you rather play?

El_Zo1212o

Splintercell. Better designed game overall, better stealth gameplay, movement, control, mechanics, story etc. Metal Gear playing more like Splintercell only helps it out.

Stealth is optional in Splinter Cell(at least as of Conviction. As of Snake Eater, being spotted in Metal Gear still ended in bullet-riddled death more often than not.

Stealth is completely optional in Conviction, but some people don't see it that way. They see Conviction as a third-person shooter where you can just go around and kill everybody, like a TPS. Absolutely wrong. I've watched Youtube videos of people actually going through levels without being detected ONCE. There are moments in the campaign where killing is absolutely necessary, but you can do that without raising the alarm and still stay undetected (and yes, THAT IS STEALTH TOO - killing people without being detected. To say that it's not is ridiculous). In Blacklist, there are three playstyles; Ghost, Panther, and Assault. I've watched people on that game go through an entire level simply by ghosting through it, even if it meant non-lethal takedowns or using gadgets like sleeping gas. To tell me that neither Blacklist or Conviction is not stealth (not saying that you are saying that, but referring to people in general instead) is absolutely bullshit. People need to open up their eyes a lot more and see those games for what they are - true stealth. Period.

#50 Posted by Qixote (10667 posts) -

Yikes. Then again who cares, no one plays Metal Gear for the gameplayBlack_Knight_00
Wait. Metal Gear games have gameplay?