Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance - is it worth spending money on?

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#1 Posted by slamminjammin69 (1599 posts) -

Or should I just stick with the original Metal Gear Solid 2?

#2 Posted by GreekGameManiac (6439 posts) -

It's worth it if you want something extra out of it.

#3 Posted by yaopingzhu (23 posts) -

Yes definitely for the additional VR missions. If you own an xbox360, PS3 or PS Vita, you might want to consider getting the remastered HD version.

#4 Posted by GrayF0X786 (3929 posts) -

i would reccomend the HD collection if you own the next gen consoles.

#5 Posted by bultje112 (1867 posts) -

i would reccomend the HD collection if you own the next gen consoles.

GrayF0X786

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#6 Posted by nintendoboy16 (27469 posts) -

Yes definitely for the additional VR missions. If you own an xbox360, PS3 or PS Vita, you might want to consider getting the remastered HD version.

yaopingzhu
My brother got that for 360, which is awesome. I'd like to get Twin Snakes for GameCube though, despite his HIGH price.
#7 Posted by funsohng (28610 posts) -

Yes definitely for the additional VR missions. If you own an xbox360, PS3 or PS Vita, you might want to consider getting the remastered HD version.

yaopingzhu
Oh wait, so MGS2 in the collection is Substance? Sweet!
[QUOTE="yaopingzhu"]

Yes definitely for the additional VR missions. If you own an xbox360, PS3 or PS Vita, you might want to consider getting the remastered HD version.

nintendoboy16
My brother got that for 360, which is awesome. I'd like to get Twin Snakes for GameCube though, despite his HIGH price.

I think I got that for like 20 bucks or something in this really remote area I visited during school band trip. Doesn't have the proper case cover, but still it's awesome.
#8 Posted by bultje112 (1867 posts) -

[QUOTE="yaopingzhu"]

Yes definitely for the additional VR missions. If you own an xbox360, PS3 or PS Vita, you might want to consider getting the remastered HD version.

nintendoboy16

My brother got that for 360, which is awesome. I'd like to get Twin Snakes for GameCube though, despite his HIGH price.

few years ago a shop here was(and is) still selling 2nd hand gamecube games and there was twin snakes for 6 euros. I simply wanted to have it anyway, and about a year later I found out it was atcually expensive online

#9 Posted by Panzer_Zwei (15442 posts) -

METAL GEAR SOLID 2 HD runs on 60fps and has everything of SUBSTANCE (VR missions Snake Tales, Boss Survival) with the exception of the skateboarding game.

But if you're interested on the original SUBSTANCE regardless, you might want to check out if the PC version is cheaper than the PS2. It probably is.

#10 Posted by BarbaricAvatar (977 posts) -

METAL GEAR SOLID 2 HD runs on 60fps and has everything of SUBSTANCE (VR missions Snake Tales, Boss Survival) with the exception of the skateboarding game.

But if you're interested on the original SUBSTANCE regardless, you might want to check out if the PC version is cheaper than the PS2. It probably is.

Panzer_Zwei

Substance for the PS2 is much cheaper now thanks to the arrival of the HD versions. Prior to their release i couldn't find it for much less than £40, now it's closer to £5 (which is what i paid for it a couple of months ago).

#11 Posted by slamminjammin69 (1599 posts) -

Well I have a Playstation 2 and I prefer the Metal Gear Solid games for the Playstation 2.

And screw fancy HD.

I just want to know if the regular Metal Gear Solid 2 game for the Playstation 2 is still worth having to keep and play or just get the Substance special edition where it has VR missions?

Is the Metal Gear Solid 2 "Substance" version even worth getting? That is what I am asking.

#12 Posted by Panzer_Zwei (15442 posts) -

^Not really. SUBSTANCE has everything the original retail version had and more, no drawbacks neither. So keeping the original release would serve no practical purpose outside of if you just want to keep your copy for personal reasons.

#13 Posted by Heirren (18084 posts) -

Well I have a Playstation 2 and I prefer the Metal Gear Solid games for the Playstation 2.

And screw fancy HD.

I just want to know if the regular Metal Gear Solid 2 game for the Playstation 2 is still worth having to keep and play or just get the Substance special edition where it has VR missions?

Is the Metal Gear Solid 2 "Substance" version even worth getting? That is what I am asking.

slamminjammin69
The he versions are 16:9, though. Thats a bigger bonus than the resolution increase, IMO.
#14 Posted by Megavideogamer (5480 posts) -

If your a Metal Gear fan. Yes it is. Go for the HD edition.

#15 Posted by Funkyhamster (17366 posts) -

METAL GEAR SOLID 2 HD runs on 60fps and has everything of SUBSTANCE (VR missions Snake Tales, Boss Survival) with the exception of the skateboarding game.

But if you're interested on the original SUBSTANCE regardless, you might want to check out if the PC version is cheaper than the PS2. It probably is.

Panzer_Zwei
I would recommend the PS2 version over the PC version unless it's prohibitively expensive. I got the PC version first, and I was frustrated by it. The graphics were a little buggy, and more importantly, the keyboard controls are terrible. Maybe using a PS2 controller via USB would make it playable, but a lot of MGS2's controls utilize the pressure-sensitive nature of the PS2 buttons, and I'm not sure if that's an easy thing to set up on the PC.
#16 Posted by BarbaricAvatar (977 posts) -

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

METAL GEAR SOLID 2 HD runs on 60fps and has everything of SUBSTANCE (VR missions Snake Tales, Boss Survival) with the exception of the skateboarding game.

But if you're interested on the original SUBSTANCE regardless, you might want to check out if the PC version is cheaper than the PS2. It probably is.

Funkyhamster

I would recommend the PS2 version over the PC version unless it's prohibitively expensive. I got the PC version first, and I was frustrated by it. The graphics were a little buggy, and more importantly, the keyboard controls are terrible. Maybe using a PS2 controller via USB would make it playable, but a lot of MGS2's controls utilize the pressure-sensitive nature of the PS2 buttons, and I'm not sure if that's an easy thing to set up on the PC.

For PS2 controller fans who also game on PC:

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Obviously this doesn't help for the pressure-sensitive buttons but there is no better substitute, it has all the right buttons and it 'feels' right (also comes in rumble and wireless).

#17 Posted by vashkey (33759 posts) -
I wouldn't recommend Substance. I didn't much care about the additional content. But if you want the definitive version then yeah, the MGS HD collection is the way to go. 60 fps, HD and wide screen. As for the pressure sensitive button fiasco, I felt the substitute with the clicking analog sticks in the 360 version was just fine. I never cared for having to be careful of how hard I hit the buttons in the PS2 version.
#18 Posted by AcidSoldner (7051 posts) -
Considering how cheap it is now, why the hell not? I'd get the HD Collection like others have mentioned though.
#19 Posted by slamminjammin69 (1599 posts) -

Well good for you and your precious HD. God....

I prefer the Metal Gear Solid 2 game for the Playstation 2. Tried asking if the damn Substance version is worth buying or just stick with the regular Metal Gear Solid 2.

Jeez

#20 Posted by AcidSoldner (7051 posts) -

Well good for you and your precious HD. God....

I prefer the Metal Gear Solid 2 game for the Playstation 2. Tried asking if the damn Substance version is worth buying or just stick with the regular Metal Gear Solid 2.

Jeez

slamminjammin69
Can you read? I answered your question and simply added that the HD version is better. Doesn't at all detract from the original statement of the PS2 version of Substance being recommended.
#21 Posted by Byshop (12148 posts) -

[QUOTE="slamminjammin69"]

Well good for you and your precious HD. God....

I prefer the Metal Gear Solid 2 game for the Playstation 2. Tried asking if the damn Substance version is worth buying or just stick with the regular Metal Gear Solid 2.

Jeez

AcidSoldner

Can you read? I answered your question and simply added that the HD version is better. Doesn't at all detract from the original statement of the PS2 version of Substance being recommended.

Yeah, he answered your question and just offered a little extra info. Yes, Substance is worth it.

-Byshop

#22 Posted by Eikichi-Onizuka (8063 posts) -
If you can get it on the cheap side, than yes it's worth it. I just saw it used for $30(not sure if that's the normal going price or not) and I would say the extras aren't worth that much.
#23 Posted by BenedictArnold7 (701 posts) -
if you love the game enough yes