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#1 The_Last_Ride
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Here are the leads for the new Mass Effect project, all the designers, writers and directors

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#2 wiouds
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At this point it is a rental unless the announce they are going to make the game play more like ME1 with the very few improvements from ME2 and ME3.

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#3  Edited By mastermetal777
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Looks interesting so far. I'll wait for more gameplay and story details though before I make up my mind about getting it.

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#4 Ballroompirate
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Do want

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#5 thehig1
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Bioware could throw any old shit together and call it Mass Effect 4 and I'd still throw money at them.

My Biggest fear is microsoft buying a timed exclusive rights for it on X1, dam game would cost me £400 then

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#6 mastermetal777
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@thehig1: I doubt it'll happen, since Mass Effect is no longer Microsoft exclusive.

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#7 Lulu_Lulu
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@wiouds

The Gameplay was the worst part of Mass Effect 1, the sequels were the improvements.

But in case I missed something I should probably ask what gameplay you are referring too ?

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#8  Edited By thehig1
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@mastermetal777 said:

@thehig1: I doubt it'll happen, since Mass Effect is no longer Microsoft exclusive.

I hope your right, but MS could easy just throw money at Bioware to make it timed exclusive.

Sony have done it with Silent Hill, Silent Hill was not a Sony exclusive in previous generations

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#9 mastermetal777
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@thehig1: Silent Hill was always Sony exclusive up until the 7th gen.

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#11 mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: ME1 gameplay was very good to me. And I played it after playing ME2. I only had two issues with it: the wonky cover system and the awful MAKO controls. Otherwise, nothing systemically or technically wrong with it.

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#12 wiouds
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@Lulu_Lulu: ME1 gameplay was very good to me. And I played it after playing ME2. I only had two issues with it: the wonky cover system and the awful MAKO controls. Otherwise, nothing systemically or technically wrong with it.

I do enjoy the armor, shields and barrier.

It is the level up part of the game play that was a huge let down. ME1 is still the best balance of shooter and RPG out there. The RPG elements in ME1 were not as refined as they could have been but it still gave your enough to make your character's role in the game play. Then ME2 came and you got a railroaded classes in a gears of war clone.

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#13 Lulu_Lulu
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Not even the use of the Powers ?

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#14 Lulu_Lulu
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@wiouds

To be fair if a developer is going to clone a game, Gears Of War is not a Bad Choice at all. The 1st Mass Effect on ther hand was the clone of a Generic TPS.

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#15 mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: the use of powers made it even more enjoyable. Sure you couldn't combo them yet, but they were a part of what made the gameplay unique compared to games like Gears of Bore. Made it feel like its own universe.

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#16 Lulu_Lulu
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@mastermetal777

Thats very nice it made you "feel" that way, now without so much "feeling" how were the powers really ?

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#17  Edited By wiouds
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@mastermetal777 said:

the use of powers made it even more enjoyable. Sure you couldn't combo them yet, but they were a part of what made the gameplay unique compared to games like Gears of Bore. Made it feel like its own universe.

It was not just the power that made ME1 different but having a say in the character role in the game play. You can have two engineers that have different skill sets. Without, it just became a Generic TPS like ME2 and ME3.

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#18  Edited By mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: besides that each power was useful in battle? How they added depth to the game without being complex? Or what about their overall impact and non-stat-based increases? Because idk what you want otherwise

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#19  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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It's Mass Effect, so of course I'm very excited for any details...

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#20 Lulu_Lulu
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Theres no other saying this.... They just sucked, the engineer just has a bunch of grenades plus Hacking and the Biotics where bordeland terrible and lazy, you couldn't push or pull things in the enviroment singularity was super useless. It was actually much more fun playing as the soldier.

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#21  Edited By The_Last_Ride
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@wiouds said:

At this point it is a rental unless the announce they are going to make the game play more like ME1 with the very few improvements from ME2 and ME3.

Don't know why anyone likes ME 1 more than the others. ME 2 is the best in the series by far. With storytelling and gameplay. Besides the Mako has been confirmed

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#22 wiouds
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@The_Last_Ride said:

@wiouds said:

At this point it is a rental unless the announce they are going to make the game play more like ME1 with the very few improvements from ME2 and ME3.

Don't know why anyone likes ME 1 more than the others. ME 2 is the best in the series by far. With storytelling and gameplay. Besides the Mako has been confirmed

Game play wise I find ME1 to have the best balance of RPG and shooter. I like how I how I had choices that affect the character's game play through out the game. ME2 had a railroaded classes and other than powers ME3 and ME2 were a very generic TPS. Game play wise I would say the order for best to worse would be ME1, ME3 and worse is ME2. The best stuff from the ME game are only found in the first one. ME2 is the worst story of the three and I hate the characters so much. I find FF13 cast to be better.

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#23 Macutchi
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agree with @wiouds me1 was the best game in the series. better balance of rpg / action, a far better story, better atmosphere. me2 might have been more polished as a shooter but it felt that it was at the expense of stuff that made me1 great

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#24 johnd13
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@Macutchi said:

agree with @wiouds me1 was the best game in the series. better balance of rpg / action, a far better story, better atmosphere. me2 might have been more polished as a shooter but it felt that it was at the expense of stuff that made me1 great

I agree 100%.

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#25 Archangel3371
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It's Bioware. It's Mass Effect. It's going to be amazing.

Shut up and take my money!

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#26 mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: so...because it doesn't do what you want or "expect" it to do, it sucks? Talk about being entitled. Why not just take a game how it is instead of forcing it into what you want? You didn't make it and thus can't change it so...deal with it.

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#27  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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Because its extremely redundant and ineffecient and lazy. If you wana see an example of how powers are suppose to be used then look no further than Bioshock 2.

Its an even better RPG than Mass Effect.

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#28 Lulu_Lulu
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Most of the Powers are only Statistically Assymetrical, its just numbers game of optimizing combat by using Warp on Barriers and Organics and Overload on Synthetics on Shields. That plus the 50 differrent types of sperm.

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#29 mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: all I hear is you being upset that it's not the game you wanted it to be. And as for BioShock 2, the powers were really inefficient when I played it. Three times. They didn't pack the same punch they did in the first game and even in Infinite (ooh I can taste the salt coming from you already)

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#30 The_Last_Ride
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@Archangel3371 said:

It's Bioware. It's Mass Effect. It's going to be amazing.

Shut up and take my money!

exactly my thoughts

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#31 EPICCOMMANDER
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@mastermetal777: @Lulu_Lulu: You two are adorable.

Carry on.

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#32 Lulu_Lulu
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@mastermetal777

I never said it was perfect. All the Bioshock Games suffer from Artificial Difficulty. Mass Effect is no different. As if the gameplay wasn't bad enough already the fact that you can level up so high to the point that you don't need to cover anymore didn't make things anybetter, its the same thing with weapons, eventually you'l find one so powerfull it kills faster than it overheats.

FYI, its true, Mass Effect is not the game I wanted it to be, in the sameway Final Fantasy XIII is not the game I wanted it to be.... Feel free to defend that too.

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I can't... Not while people are watching.... :(

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#33  Edited By mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: I don't need to defend anything about Final Fantasy 13. As much as I personally enjoyed it, it was the weakest FF game. And you can make the leveling argument all you want.

Any game that has exploitable systems can be abused, regardless of genre. The difference between a good and bad game is whether or not it's still fun to play, exploits or otherwise. And since everyone has their own unique experience with a game, it becomes a moot point after a while. Just allow people to enjoy things without having to question their opinion. Saves a lot of needless debate

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#34  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@mastermetal777

Well then that makes it simple... Mass Effect 2 and 3 were much more fun.

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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@mastermetal777

Because its extremely redundant and ineffecient and lazy. If you wana see an example of how powers are suppose to be used then look no further than Bioshock 2.

Its an even better RPG than Mass Effect.

A Bioshock 2 fan? Awesome. I wouldn't say Bioshock 2 is a 'better RPG' than Mass Effect though. Every aspect of the first ME is coated with RPG-ness whereas Bioshock definitely has elements but isn't as deep an RPG.

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#36 mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: to you. I find them all equally engaging in their own ways. I prefer 2 overall, but the whole trilogy was phenomenal in my eyes.

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#37 Lulu_Lulu
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The Stats don't make the RPG... The Character Building and Developement make the RPG.

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Not to me.... I actually have a somewhat logical argument why 2 and 3 are more fun.

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#38 mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: Logic is all well and good, but it doesn't mean much in the world of gaming

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#39  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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True.... Gamers are ilogical.

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#40 mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: and you're a gamer. Hypocrisy: gotta love it

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#41 Lulu_Lulu
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@mastermetal777

What are you talking about ?

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#42 mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: you called gamers illogical. You're a gamer yourself. So if you generalize like you always do, you're calling yourself illogical

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#43 wiouds
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@mastermetal777: You should just stop listen to him/her. (S)he won't listen to anything good about RPG. Also does not like how stats are very important if not most important part of a character development in a RPG.

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#44  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@mastermetal777

Well Duh ! Where does the hypocrisy come in ?

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#45 mastermetal777
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@Lulu_Lulu: not including yourself in that bunch. Instead you casually leave yourself out of your own remarks against gamers as if you don't ever apply.

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#46 Lulu_Lulu
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@wiouds

Seriously ? Even till this day you donlt know I am a dude ?

Anyway the stat thing stopped being true when RPGs graduated from Table Top to computers, infact I know a statless Tabletop RPG, so actually the Stat thing was never true to begin with.

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#47  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@mastermetal777

When did I exclude myself ?

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#48 The_Last_Ride
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@mastermetal777 said:

Looks interesting so far. I'll wait for more gameplay and story details though before I make up my mind about getting it.

everyone should, but i love the games bioware release. So unless there is something wrong with it, i am going to buy it

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#49  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@The_Last_Ride

I'l find something wrong with it. :)

Shouldn't be too hard considering Bioware's level Of Developement skills.

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#50 The_Last_Ride
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@The_Last_Ride

I'l find something wrong with it. :)

Shouldn't be too hard considering Bioware's level Of Developement skills.

What's that suppose to mean?