Dark Souls.. Is this the game of the generation?

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#1 Posted by TheNerdiot (12 posts) -

How do you feel about Dark Souls? Is this game really up to it's hype? I have yet to play it and really don't know what to think because I'm terrified to get addicted to something new.

http://www.nerdiots.com/2014/02/15/dark-souls-game-generation/

#2 Posted by ShepardCommandr (2143 posts) -

Not even close lol

#3 Posted by TheNerdiot (12 posts) -

@ShepardCommandr: I mean is it worth playing at all? I feel like people just give it so much credit, and after looking at some of the reviews, why would anyone want to play a game where you just die all the time? I honestly don't know what to think lol.

Should I waste my time and money on it?

#4 Edited by Renegade_Fury (16952 posts) -

I think it's terrible. Slow gameplay and an ugly art style make one bad combination. I'm just glad I got it for free from an amazon "buy 2 games, get one free" deal a couple of years ago.

#5 Posted by TheNerdiot (12 posts) -

@Renegade_Fury: I think if I can pick it up for free I'm going to give it a shot, hopefully it will show up on the games with gold eventually on 360, and I guess if that happens I'll jump on board, but I don't want to put any money into it that's for sure.

#6 Edited by Minishdriveby (10003 posts) -

I consider it to be. Combat can be hard at first, eventually you get use to it. The last third is a cake walk, but the combat isn't what keeps me coming back. Lore, environmental and enemy design, paired with some really great senses of accomplishment kept me coming back for a 3rd and 4th time.

I can't really think of another game that tops it last generation. If you're interested in my top 10 of last generation list to get a taste of what I thought, here it is at the moment (it might change in the future):

  1. Dark Souls
  2. The Last of Us
  3. Hotline Miami
  4. Mario Galaxy
  5. Xenoblade
  6. Read Dead Redemption
  7. Rayman Origins
  8. Super Meat Boy
  9. Spelunky
  10. Little King's Story
#7 Posted by Jacanuk (3695 posts) -

How do you feel about Dark Souls? Is this game really up to it's hype? I have yet to play it and really don't know what to think because I'm terrified to get addicted to something new.

http://www.nerdiots.com/2014/02/15/dark-souls-game-generation/

I would not like to call me a gamer in a generation that calls Dark Souls the game of the generation. Its a ok game but the hype surrounding it, is way too much and not based on anything in the game.

So of course its not the game of any generation, its a mediocre game that has been hyped to heights nothing in it deserves.

#8 Posted by Some-Mist (5630 posts) -

I consider it to be. Combat can be hard at first, eventually you get use to it. The last third is a cake walk, but the combat isn't what keeps me coming back. Lore, environmental and enemy design, paired with some really great senses of accomplishment kept me coming back for a 3rd and 4th time.

I can't really think of another game that tops it last generation. If you're interested in my top 10 of last generation list to get a taste of what I thought, here it is at the moment (it might change in the future):

  1. Dark Souls
  2. The Last of Us
  3. Hotline Miami
  4. Mario Galaxy
  5. Xenoblade
  6. Read Dead Redemption
  7. Rayman Origins
  8. Super Meat Boy
  9. Spelunky
  10. Little King's Story

you listed a few Wii games but not Sin & Punishment: Star Successor?

#9 Posted by gpuFX16 (1296 posts) -

Definitely my favorite title of the generation. The first six hours were incredibly punishing, but once I started coming to grips with the mechanics, I was totally absorbed. I ended up making 6 characters for over 700 hrs of gameplay in Souls 1, and I'm now up to about 120 in the sequel. What really made Souls 1 special to me was the interconnected areas, hidden lore and weapon variety. That enjoyment only increased when I got into the online co-op.

One thing though, after playing Souls 2, it's tough playing the first again because of the difference in control. The controls in Souls 2 are much, much smoother.

@Minishdriveby Interesting to see Hotline Miami that high, but I agree. I certainly did not expect a game that I bought a during a Steam sale for less than 5 bucks to make that much of an impact, but indeed- Hotline is amazing.

#10 Posted by Randolph (10346 posts) -

Those games certainly had that potential within them. Sadly, From Software is a mediocre at best developer, and wasn't able to reach those heights.

#11 Posted by SovietsUnited (1777 posts) -

It might just be the very best game of this generation, I agree; it pretty much reminded everyone what games these days have lost

#12 Edited by huerito323 (1371 posts) -

I love how all the people that suck at it call it a bad mediocre game. In reality, it's their skills at gaming that are mediocre. Stop blaming the game. Dark Souls is absolutely brilliant. It's one of the best games this generation, and one of the best games I've ever played period!

#13 Posted by Flubbbs (2831 posts) -

def top 5 for me

#14 Edited by Some-Mist (5630 posts) -

these are the worst comments of souls fanboys:

@huerito323 said:

I love how all the people that suck at it call it a bad mediocre game. In reality, it's their skills at gaming that are mediocre. Stop blaming the game. Dark Souls is absolutely brilliant. It's one of the best games this generation, and one of the best games I've ever played period!

I don't suck at it (search CHAOSPHERE27 https://secure.us.playstation.com/logged-in/trophies/public-trophies/ - I actually beat the asian version of demon's souls around 7 or so new game pluses then the us version a handful of times when it released - notice my two trophy sets with the platinum?, and DS1 once) and I think DS2 is a bad mediocre game - especially in comparison to the first two installments. Demon's Souls was incredible and then the series dropped from there.

DS1 gimped the entire online system - best part of the original demon's souls experience. The themes and map layout were much better in Dark Souls, but everything else didn't compare to the original. DS2 went for a more cinematic approach, with music playing in the background of one of the starting areas, longer cutscenes and bland/uninspired areas. Where's the enemy variety? I wanted to get into it and start fighting right off the bat like in the first two games.... but it actually takes awhile to even see you're first enemy in the 2nd installment. pretty disappointing experience.

#15 Edited by Minishdriveby (10003 posts) -

@Some-Mist said:

these are the worst comments of souls fanboys:

@huerito323 said:

I love how all the people that suck at it call it a bad mediocre game. In reality, it's their skills at gaming that are mediocre. Stop blaming the game. Dark Souls is absolutely brilliant. It's one of the best games this generation, and one of the best games I've ever played period!

I don't suck at it (search CHAOSPHERE27 https://secure.us.playstation.com/logged-in/trophies/public-trophies/ - I actually beat the asian version of demon's souls around 7 or so new game pluses then the us version a handful of times when it released - notice my two trophy sets with the platinum?, and DS1 once) and I think DS2 is a bad mediocre game - especially in comparison to the first two installments. Demon's Souls was incredible and then the series dropped from there.

DS1 gimped the entire online system - best part of the original demon's souls experience. The themes and map layout were much better in Dark Souls, but everything else didn't compare to the original. DS2 went for a more cinematic approach, with music playing in the background of one of the starting areas, longer cutscenes and bland/uninspired areas. Where's the enemy variety? I wanted to get into it and start fighting right off the bat like in the first two games.... but it actually takes awhile to even see you're first enemy in the 2nd installment. pretty disappointing experience.

There were more enemy types in Dark Souls than Demon's Souls.

#16 Posted by Minishdriveby (10003 posts) -

@Minishdriveby said:

I consider it to be. Combat can be hard at first, eventually you get use to it. The last third is a cake walk, but the combat isn't what keeps me coming back. Lore, environmental and enemy design, paired with some really great senses of accomplishment kept me coming back for a 3rd and 4th time.

I can't really think of another game that tops it last generation. If you're interested in my top 10 of last generation list to get a taste of what I thought, here it is at the moment (it might change in the future):

  1. Dark Souls
  2. The Last of Us
  3. Hotline Miami
  4. Mario Galaxy
  5. Xenoblade
  6. Read Dead Redemption
  7. Rayman Origins
  8. Super Meat Boy
  9. Spelunky
  10. Little King's Story

you listed a few Wii games but not Sin & Punishment: Star Successor?

Yeah, I thought there were better Wii games than it.

#18 Edited by Some-Mist (5630 posts) -

@Minishdriveby: yikes. I think Sin & Punishment was by far one of the best games the console had to offer. Treasure is a complete pro when it comes to fantastic gameplay...even if it is a bit difficult.

I was also referring to Dark Souls 2 enemy variety which has seemed to change since the original dark souls - another indicator of the series getting worse and worse with each installment. At least they tried tho.... "you know what would be a good idea? a ghost ship with viking zombies." "Brilliant!!!"

@huerito323 said:

@Some-Mist said:

these are the worst comments of souls fanboys:

@huerito323 said:

I love how all the people that suck at it call it a bad mediocre game. In reality, it's their skills at gaming that are mediocre. Stop blaming the game. Dark Souls is absolutely brilliant. It's one of the best games this generation, and one of the best games I've ever played period!

I don't suck at it (search CHAOSPHERE27 https://secure.us.playstation.com/logged-in/trophies/public-trophies/ - I actually beat the asian version of demon's souls around 7 or so new game pluses then the us version a handful of times when it released - notice my two trophy sets with the platinum?, and DS1 once) and I think DS2 is a bad mediocre game - especially in comparison to the first two installments. Demon's Souls was incredible and then the series dropped from there.

DS1 gimped the entire online system - best part of the original demon's souls experience. The themes and map layout were much better in Dark Souls, but everything else didn't compare to the original. DS2 went for a more cinematic approach, with music playing in the background of one of the starting areas, longer cutscenes and bland/uninspired areas. Where's the enemy variety? I wanted to get into it and start fighting right off the bat like in the first two games.... but it actually takes awhile to even see you're first enemy in the 2nd installment. pretty disappointing experience.

eat shit souls fanboy :)

That's your opinion. Move along.

the funniest part of interacting with a souls fanboy is the fact that they think it's "too difficult" for those who dislike the game. if you want to be a dick about difficulty... you should actually play... you know...some difficult games.

edit: by the way, you should post your Souls platinum trophy(ies) too.

#20 Edited by huerito323 (1371 posts) -

@Some-Mist said:

@Minishdriveby: yikes. I think Sin & Punishment was by far one of the best games the console had to offer. Treasure is a complete pro when it comes to fantastic gameplay...even if it is a bit difficult.

I was also referring to Dark Souls 2 enemy variety which has seemed to change since the original dark souls - another indicator of the series getting worse and worse with each installment. At least they tried tho.... "you know what would be a good idea? a ghost ship with viking zombies." "Brilliant!!!"

@huerito323 said:

@Some-Mist said:

these are the worst comments of souls fanboys:

@huerito323 said:

I love how all the people that suck at it call it a bad mediocre game. In reality, it's their skills at gaming that are mediocre. Stop blaming the game. Dark Souls is absolutely brilliant. It's one of the best games this generation, and one of the best games I've ever played period!

I don't suck at it (search CHAOSPHERE27 https://secure.us.playstation.com/logged-in/trophies/public-trophies/ - I actually beat the asian version of demon's souls around 7 or so new game pluses then the us version a handful of times when it released - notice my two trophy sets with the platinum?, and DS1 once) and I think DS2 is a bad mediocre game - especially in comparison to the first two installments. Demon's Souls was incredible and then the series dropped from there.

DS1 gimped the entire online system - best part of the original demon's souls experience. The themes and map layout were much better in Dark Souls, but everything else didn't compare to the original. DS2 went for a more cinematic approach, with music playing in the background of one of the starting areas, longer cutscenes and bland/uninspired areas. Where's the enemy variety? I wanted to get into it and start fighting right off the bat like in the first two games.... but it actually takes awhile to even see you're first enemy in the 2nd installment. pretty disappointing experience.

eat shit souls fanboy :)

That's your opinion. Move along.

the funniest part of souls fanboys is the fact that they think it's "too difficult" for those who dislike the game. if you want to be a dick about difficulty... you should actually play... you know...some difficult games.

If you're not one of the people that think it's too hard, then why are you even arguing about this? My comment was directed to those who have a hard time with the game, and say it sucks because of it. If the shoe fits, wear it.That's what you just did. You got offended, which leads me to believe you suck at the game.

#21 Edited by SovietsUnited (1777 posts) -

^It's not artificial difficulty; it's very fair and often disciplines the player rather than being unforgiving. But, you'd have to play the game first to understand...

#22 Posted by Firosen (427 posts) -

Eh... I'm on the fence with this game. If you're a glutton for punishment and truly love a challenge, then this game is perfect. On the other hand, so much of the game just feels like trial and error (though to be honest, I rage quit half way through...). I'd say give it a shot. If you hate it, you're only out 15 bucks.

#24 Posted by Minishdriveby (10003 posts) -

@Some-Mist: Oh whoops, sorry 'bout that. I haven't played DS2 yet, so I'm unaware if enemy variety has take a dip.

#25 Edited by Some-Mist (5630 posts) -

sorry if I spoiled anything :/

the good news about DS2 is the same core gameplay and difficulty are there.

#26 Posted by 0diN_7 (1036 posts) -

It can be a very challenging game and is for a long time. It teaches you to learn from your mistakes and forces you to get better at it. I'm playing ng+++ right now and I'm slaughtering everything in my path and have been since probably halfway to 3/4 of the way through ng so it does get quite easy. It's not for everyone. You can see that here in these posts. I guess it's a love it or hate it sort of thing. I happen to think it's amazimg.

#27 Posted by MWright469 (149 posts) -

I don't really understand the obsession with Dark Souls. I played it, it was okay, but at the end of the day, it's just the stunted brother of Demon's Souls. Say what you will, maybe it has a few extra features, more items, whatever, but Demon's Souls had better graphics and an atmosphere about it that is really quite unique. The game just had more personality and style. It was also harder. Not to mention, the whole "kindling" mechanic was annoying, there was no more hub world, and levels weren't nearly as diverse or interesting, let alone creepy. If anything, Demon's Souls should be contender for game of the gen, but no one would dare admit to it, since Dark Souls is up everyone's ass and Demon's Souls was PS3 exclusive.

#28 Posted by Black_Knight_00 (18072 posts) -
#29 Edited by huerito323 (1371 posts) -

It's all personal opinion. To some people, it is, to some, it's not. There is no worldwide agreement on anything.

#30 Edited by GiantAssPanda (1590 posts) -

Not to me.

#31 Posted by jdc6305 (3771 posts) -

I still like MGS4 better but the Souls series is definitely one of the best.

#32 Posted by Meteor7 (515 posts) -

For me: No

For others: Up to them to decide

#33 Posted by SapSacPrime (8728 posts) -

Its an alright game, its flawed but makes up for most of them with the freedom it offers. I don't know how anybody can say its a fair game with things like the silver knight archer on the ledge in anor londo you have to pass; there are some really bad design choices in dark souls.

#34 Posted by Mesomorphin (741 posts) -

I wouldnt call Dark souls the game of the gen, I'd say thats reserved for something like Bioshock, Uncharted, TLOU, Catherine, portal or Halo 3. But fuck is it a good game!

#35 Edited by alim298 (1022 posts) -

No But Volagrr the Viking is.

Just read some other comments in this thread and the guy saying haters are casuals well you know what you fanboys are total morons. First there are better harder games second the reason everyone complains about dark souls isn't because of their skills it's because of accessibility. Just yesterday I read a topic on dark souls 2 breakpoints for stats. How the hell was I supposed to know there are breakpoints? Also one time I had an argument with the bigoted byshop and I learned from some other guy that embers power depends on your stat meaning that putting a divine ember on your weapon will screw you if you have low fate and my character was a wanderer who has the lowest fate of all. Now are you going to tell me that it's my skill that's the problem?

#37 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (6202 posts) -

No. People only love it for it's "hardcore" difficulty"

Take away that hardcore difficulty, and would the game still be getting praised to the moon?

#38 Posted by Mesomorphin (741 posts) -

No. People only love it for it's "hardcore" difficulty"

Take away that hardcore difficulty, and would the game still be getting praised to the moon?

yeah I'd say so, the online is pretty unique and def alot of fun, plus the combat is addicting regardless of difficulty. and it has a some sweet lore behind it

#40 Posted by uninspiredcup (6895 posts) -

Great game for sure. Personally (and yes I know you disagree) I think Diablo 3 is a much better AARG.

#41 Posted by udUbdaWgz1 (465 posts) -

I've never played it, but, eventually will.

however, if I find out the game truly does have cheap deaths and artificial difficulty due to the game design, that alone, gives it no chance of being game of the decade, for me.

toss in memorization combat and gameplay and I've just described a game type I can't stand.

#43 Posted by c_rakestraw (14549 posts) -

Demon's Souls would be the better choice. Dark Souls was merely iterative on Demon's Souls' design; a spectacular game in its own right, but not as revelatory or groundbreaking as its predecessor. Demon's Souls was revolutionary -- most of all for how seamlessly it melded single- and multiplayer into one cohesive experience, a concept we're seeing more and more games explore these days. It's had a surprising amount of influence on the industry, of which Dark Souls is merely an extension of.

#44 Posted by c_rakestraw (14549 posts) -

No. People only love it for it's "hardcore" difficulty"

Take away that hardcore difficulty, and would the game still be getting praised to the moon?

I'd certainly be praising it still. But then, the challenge isn't what drives me to the Souls series. It's the worlds, the stories, and the very mechanics of the games that keep me coming back even after all there's little else to challenge me. The way these games play is what makes them so good. There's an elegance to them that you just don't see in other games.

#46 Posted by Jacanuk (3695 posts) -

Demon's Souls would be the better choice. Dark Souls was merely iterative on Demon's Souls' design; a spectacular game in its own right, but not as revelatory or groundbreaking as its predecessor. Demon's Souls was revolutionary -- most of all for how seamlessly it melded single- and multiplayer into one cohesive experience, a concept we're seeing more and more games explore these days. It's had a surprising amount of influence on the industry, of which Dark Souls is merely an extension of.

I disagree with it revolutionary in melding single&multiplayer in fact the way the souls game do it is a sick idea and they seem to forget that this system can be abused and that most who play single player games, like to keep it that way.

#47 Edited by CinemaPopcorn (11 posts) -

I personally find it overrated. Newer games of this generation like the last of us in my opinion are better and upcoming title watch dogs looks like it could offer a decent experience so let us just see shall we ;)

#48 Posted by Darkmoone1 (2808 posts) -

One of my favorite game series these past few years. Hard for me to find anything else that is as enjoyable as the Dark Souls series to me these days.

#49 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (8611 posts) -

@ Darkmoone1

Have you tried Jamming your arm in a Wood Chipper ?

Thats totally way more hardcore and its so fair because its a wood chipper. :p and theres no hand holding because it shreds the hell out of anything inside it... Including your hand. Haha :D

#50 Edited by The_Last_Ride (69046 posts) -

No it's not, far from it. Dark Souls has a really intense fan base though