I love me some sneak-em-ups, and I reckon some of you folks probably do too!
What are your favorites?
My favorites include Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Hitman 2 / Blood Money, Thief II: The Metal Age and Metal Gear Solid 3.
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I love me some sneak-em-ups, and I reckon some of you folks probably do too!
What are your favorites?
My favorites include Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Hitman 2 / Blood Money, Thief II: The Metal Age and Metal Gear Solid 3.
Mark of the Ninja is one of the very best.
Also, the stealth sections in the Batman: Arkham games are excellent.
Splinter cell games and metal gear win this category.
Dishonored deserves a mention if you play it the stealth way.
Dishonored, Sly Cooper series, the Socom Series... and though I haven't played the games before, I'm really interested in the upcoming Thief reboot.
Dishonored, Sly Cooper series, the Socom Series... and though I haven't played the games before, I'm really interested in the upcoming Thief reboot.
lensflare15
It looks awful
Play Thief 1 and 2, they're some of the finest sneaking games ever made. Incredibly tight, fun gameplay. Top notch level. Really quite fantastic atmosphere and a storytelling. The story itself isn't too great, but the VA and presentation really carry it home.
Thief 3 was pretty good. Not nearly as great as the first two but still a respectable entry in the series.Â
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Dishonored, Sly Cooper series, the Socom Series... and though I haven't played the games before, I'm really interested in the upcoming Thief reboot.
Big_Red_Button
It looks awful
Play Thief 1 and 2, they're some of the finest sneaking games ever made. Incredibly tight, fun gameplay. Top notch level. Really quite fantastic atmosphere and a storytelling. The story itself isn't too great, but the VA and presentation really carry it home.
Thief 3 was pretty good. Not nearly as great as the first two but still a respectable entry in the series.Â
How so? Honestly I just saw a little bit of coverage and thought it looked cool, but I'll have to look into it more.
I do plan on playing the older games eventually though.
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Dishonored, Sly Cooper series, the Socom Series... and though I haven't played the games before, I'm really interested in the upcoming Thief reboot.
lensflare15
It looks awful
Play Thief 1 and 2, they're some of the finest sneaking games ever made. Incredibly tight, fun gameplay. Top notch level. Really quite fantastic atmosphere and a storytelling. The story itself isn't too great, but the VA and presentation really carry it home.
Thief 3 was pretty good. Not nearly as great as the first two but still a respectable entry in the series.Â
How so? Honestly I just saw a little bit of coverage and thought it looked cool, but I'll have to look into it more.
I do plan on playing the older games eventually though.
Awful design decisions. The art direction, gameplay, and everything about the game just look awful. A real "suck it" to fans of the series. It's another reboot that completely molests the original to appeal to the modern idiot gamer.
http://www.incgamers.com/2013/08/eidos-montreals-new-thief-wont-even-let-you-jump-when-you-want-to
^that's one particularly egregious fault. Apparently jumping is too complicated for the modern player. Jumping. You also can't fell off of ledges.
Why don't they just cut the player out entirely and make it a movie? Clearly they have no interest in making a good game.
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[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]
It looks awful
Play Thief 1 and 2, they're some of the finest sneaking games ever made. Incredibly tight, fun gameplay. Top notch level. Really quite fantastic atmosphere and a storytelling. The story itself isn't too great, but the VA and presentation really carry it home.
Thief 3 was pretty good. Not nearly as great as the first two but still a respectable entry in the series.Â
Big_Red_Button
How so? Honestly I just saw a little bit of coverage and thought it looked cool, but I'll have to look into it more.
I do plan on playing the older games eventually though.
Awful design decisions. The art direction, gameplay, and everything about the game just look awful. A real "suck it" to fans of the series. It's another reboot that completely molests the original to appeal to the modern idiot gamer.
http://www.incgamers.com/2013/08/eidos-montreals-new-thief-wont-even-let-you-jump-when-you-want-to
^that's one particularly egregious fault. Apparently jumping is too complicated for the modern player. Jumping. You also can't fell off of ledges.
Why don't they just cut the player out entirely and make it a movie? Clearly they have no interest in making a good game.
Huh, I'm pretty behind on gaming news I guess. Reading that article does make it sound like it'll be a clunky, restricting mess that'll end up being a shitty attempt at an Assassins Creed clone. Hopefully not, I guess I'll wait to see some gameplay before completely deciding.
speaking of stealth games, anyone play splinter cell blacklist? im craving a good stealth game and blacklist looks great. i just don't want it to be one of those games that i can beat in one sitting. anyone know how long it is? like the single player campaign? i heard good things about the multiplayer but im mainly interested in the single player.
Metal Gear Solid 3 Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker Splinter Cell Chaos Theory Splinter Cell Conviction Thief II Manhunt Hitman: Contracts Deus Ex: Human Revolution Assassin's Creed (you know, back when it was actually a through and through stealth game) Still need to play Mark of the Ninja, hear nothing but awesome things about it.AcidSoldner
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I don't remember assassins creed ever being a stealth game in any real sense. The fourth one looks like they're gonna implement stealth elements from Splinter Cell Blacklist though.Â
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Just about every stealth game worth mentioning has been mentioned, so I'll just leave with this: Mark of the Ninja is 75% off on amazon.com
speaking of stealth games, anyone play splinter cell blacklist? im craving a good stealth game and blacklist looks great. i just don't want it to be one of those games that i can beat in one sitting. anyone know how long it is? like the single player campaign? i heard good things about the multiplayer but im mainly interested in the single player.
idunnodude
It's certainly nowhere near as good as the first three games, but it's a step up from Conviction. I'd say it's about on the level of Double Agent.
Splinter Cell is real stealth while the MGS games simply consist of a series of over-long and confusing cut-scenes!
I-AM-N00B
A lot of people critisize Metal Gear for the ridiculous amount of cinemas, and let's be real here, it's pretty ridiculous. Some of those games have a combined 10+ Â hours of cutscenes and codecs. I don't mind because the story is really good, if not totally wacky and auteur.
The thing is, though, that when you actually buckle down and play the games, they play really well. Metal Gear has a unique brand of gameplay that is its own. It has tight controls, good (if not blind / deaf) AI and fantastic level design. The boss fights are top notch and all that stuff.
But the thing that helps keep me coming back is that Metal Gear is the only game in the world that plays like Metal Gear. The gameplay is filled with loads of unique little mechanics that keep it original. Cardboard boxes to hide in, dirty magazines to distract guards, oversized punctuation above guards that can be shot to stun enemies, crawling to pick up mines and other traps, not to mention dozens of clever sequences with incredibly clever solutions to problems.
Metal Gear Solid games are the kinds of things I can play through 5 times and I'll still discover neat mechanics or funny easter eggs every time.
Top tier games, those Metal Gears.
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speaking of stealth games, anyone play splinter cell blacklist? im craving a good stealth game and blacklist looks great. i just don't want it to be one of those games that i can beat in one sitting. anyone know how long it is? like the single player campaign? i heard good things about the multiplayer but im mainly interested in the single player.
Big_Red_Button
It's certainly nowhere near as good as the first three games, but it's a step up from Conviction. I'd say it's about on the level of Double Agent.
No, Blacklist is far above the atrocity that was Double Agent.Â
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Splinter Cell is real stealth while the MGS games simply consist of a series of over-long and confusing cut-scenes!
Big_Red_Button
A lot of people critisize Metal Gear for the ridiculous amount of cinemas, and let's be real here, it's pretty ridiculous. Some of those games have a combined 10+ Â hours of cutscenes and codecs. I don't mind because the story is really good, if not totally wacky and auteur.
The thing is, though, that when you actually buckle down and play the games, they play really well. Metal Gear has a unique brand of gameplay that is its own. It has tight controls, good (if not blind / deaf) AI and fantastic level design. The boss fights are top notch and all that stuff.
But the thing that helps keep me coming back is that Metal Gear is the only game in the world that plays like Metal Gear. The gameplay is filled with loads of unique little mechanics that keep it original. Cardboard boxes to hide in, dirty magazines to distract guards, oversized punctuation above guards that can be shot to stun enemies, crawling to pick up mines and other traps, not to mention dozens of clever sequences with incredibly clever solutions to problems.
Metal Gear Solid games are the kinds of things I can play through 5 times and I'll still discover neat mechanics or funny easter eggs every time.
Top tier games, those Metal Gears.
You can hide in a cardboard box and you can place dirty magazines for guards to look at, but are you actually going to use them? I played all of the Metal Gear games, and I really do not understand the series obsession with having so many useless gameplay items and mechanics. I hope they fix that in MGS5. I like the idea of sneaking around in a cardboard box, but I never do because all your other items are far more useful.
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speaking of stealth games, anyone play splinter cell blacklist? im craving a good stealth game and blacklist looks great. i just don't want it to be one of those games that i can beat in one sitting. anyone know how long it is? like the single player campaign? i heard good things about the multiplayer but im mainly interested in the single player.
Big_Red_Button
It's certainly nowhere near as good as the first three games, but it's a step up from Conviction. I'd say it's about on the level of Double Agent.
Disagree Blacklist is one of the worst Splinter cell games so far. Just the fact that they remove the option to play 5+ missions and have more mp missions then single player is a slap in the face of everyone who liked Splinter Cell for what it was a great single player game, and one of the few who hadn´t yet been destroyed by the notion that everyone wants to play with others online.[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"][QUOTE="idunnodude"]
speaking of stealth games, anyone play splinter cell blacklist? im craving a good stealth game and blacklist looks great. i just don't want it to be one of those games that i can beat in one sitting. anyone know how long it is? like the single player campaign? i heard good things about the multiplayer but im mainly interested in the single player.
Jacanuk
It's certainly nowhere near as good as the first three games, but it's a step up from Conviction. I'd say it's about on the level of Double Agent.
Disagree Blacklist is one of the worst Splinter cell games so far. Just the fact that they remove the option to play 5+ missions and have more mp missions then single player is a slap in the face of everyone who liked Splinter Cell for what it was a great single player game, and one of the few who hadn´t yet been destroyed by the notion that everyone wants to play with others online.You get 10 side missions (12 if you have promo DLC) that can be played solo or in co-op
13 campaign missionsÂ
Only 4 missions are co-op only.
What are you even complaining about. Double Agent only had 7 unique campaign missions. Most of the time, you were dicking around at the JBA headquaters doing repetitive and boring tasks.
ok im thinking of getting blacklist it looks great. im not very familiar with splinter cell but after playing hitman absolution (great game, dissapointing levels) i want a new awesome stealth game. the funny thing is you guys completely ignored my initial question and went straight to the previous game comparisons and what not. I just wanted to know, how long is blacklist? like main campaign and side content and all. basically how long is all the single player content in the game?
I've played games like MGS and Splinter Cell but they have other things going for them. Dishonored was much better as a stealth game, in my opinion. However, the best stealth mechanics in a game that I've played would be Mark of the Ninja.
Disagree Blacklist is one of the worst Splinter cell games so far. Just the fact that they remove the option to play 5+ missions and have more mp missions then single player is a slap in the face of everyone who liked Splinter Cell for what it was a great single player game, and one of the few who hadn´t yet been destroyed by the notion that everyone wants to play with others online.[QUOTE="Jacanuk"][QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]
It's certainly nowhere near as good as the first three games, but it's a step up from Conviction. I'd say it's about on the level of Double Agent.
JangoWuzHere
You get 10 side missions (12 if you have promo DLC) that can be played solo or in co-op
13 campaign missionsÂ
Only 4 missions are co-op only.
What are you even complaining about. Double Agent only had 7 unique campaign missions. Most of the time, you were dicking around at the JBA headquaters doing repetitive and boring tasks.
There are 13 Singleplayer missions and 16 co-op with 4 you are forced to play multiplayer. So again its pretty clear that the focus have been on making this more like COD then the old splinter cell and from my experience its a really bad thing. This is without a doubt the worst Splinter cell so far, its a decent game no doubt there but its not a splinter cell game, its a cOD CLONE who tries to gain success by using the splinter cell name.Dont buy Blacklist before its on sale, is my opinion and you can finish the main missions and game in about 4-6 hoursok im thinking of getting blacklist it looks great. im not very familiar with splinter cell but after playing hitman absolution (great game, dissapointing levels) i want a new awesome stealth game. the funny thing is you guys completely ignored my initial question and went straight to the previous game comparisons and what not. I just wanted to know, how long is blacklist? like main campaign and side content and all. basically how long is all the single player content in the game?
idunnodude
All the Splinter Cell games, it's my personal favorite series. Then Hitman games aren't bad. Metal Gears, I'll just wait for the next one instead of going back. Deus Ex was good. I need to get those Thief games, I've been looking forward to the new one since I heard about it.
[QUOTE="idunnodude"]Dont buy Blacklist before its on sale, is my opinion and you can finish the main missions and game in about 4-6 hours wow are you serious? damn i was planning to get this game but now im not so sure. i really wish devs would go back to focusing more on the single player and making games longer instead of all this online stuff. i hate paying $60 for a game or whatever then beating it in one sitting on the same day i bought it.ok im thinking of getting blacklist it looks great. im not very familiar with splinter cell but after playing hitman absolution (great game, dissapointing levels) i want a new awesome stealth game. the funny thing is you guys completely ignored my initial question and went straight to the previous game comparisons and what not. I just wanted to know, how long is blacklist? like main campaign and side content and all. basically how long is all the single player content in the game?
Jacanuk
[QUOTE="Jacanuk"][QUOTE="idunnodude"]Dont buy Blacklist before its on sale, is my opinion and you can finish the main missions and game in about 4-6 hours wow are you serious? damn i was planning to get this game but now im not so sure. i really wish devs would go back to focusing more on the single player and making games longer instead of all this online stuff. i hate paying $60 for a game or whatever then beating it in one sitting on the same day i bought it. Its got splitscreen.ok im thinking of getting blacklist it looks great. im not very familiar with splinter cell but after playing hitman absolution (great game, dissapointing levels) i want a new awesome stealth game. the funny thing is you guys completely ignored my initial question and went straight to the previous game comparisons and what not. I just wanted to know, how long is blacklist? like main campaign and side content and all. basically how long is all the single player content in the game?
idunnodude
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speaking of stealth games, anyone play splinter cell blacklist? im craving a good stealth game and blacklist looks great. i just don't want it to be one of those games that i can beat in one sitting. anyone know how long it is? like the single player campaign? i heard good things about the multiplayer but im mainly interested in the single player.
JangoWuzHere
It's certainly nowhere near as good as the first three games, but it's a step up from Conviction. I'd say it's about on the level of Double Agent.
No, Blacklist is far above the atrocity that was Double Agent.Â
There were two versions of Double Agent.
There was the crappy "next gen" one (remember this came out shortly after the gen began). It is the one most people played for 360, PS3, and PC.
Then there was the legacy version released for the original Xbox and PS2. That game had a similar story, but was handled by a completely different development team. It played much closer to Chaos Theory, and it was awesome.
Next-gen Double Agent was crap, but legacy Double Agent was awesome.
Blacklist plays like crap. It's way too simple and easy. I find myself able to rush through levels and get a perfect Ghost rating while playing on Realistic, pretty much never dying. It doesn't have the same atmosphere and tension that the previous games had.
I'm going to give perfectionist a shot but I really doubt it'll be any more difficult. This just doesn't feel like Splinter Cell.
My favourite stealth titles would be the entire Hitman series of games, Splinter Cell 1-Double Agent, Dishonored as well as The Last Of Us (could be considered a stealth title) and Deus Ex Human Revolution.
The current generation version of Splinter Cell Double Agent was a great entry to the series. Certainly the most challenging of the bunch. The mission rating system was incredibly unforgiving and is unmatched in the series even to this day. The JBA missions were my issue with the title but even those fell closer to traditional Chaos Theory once the routine and obligatory tasks were completed at the start of each of these.
Splinter Cell Blacklist is certainly a step back in the right direction for the series but was held back by a few issues. Forced action sequences were the worst offenders.
The original Splinter Cell, the original Rainbow 6m, and the original Ghost Recon. Probably not the best choices, but I've never really played many stealth-based games in my time. Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory were a little too suspenseful to me. The first one was a bit more laid back :P
[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Jacanuk"] Disagree Blacklist is one of the worst Splinter cell games so far. Just the fact that they remove the option to play 5+ missions and have more mp missions then single player is a slap in the face of everyone who liked Splinter Cell for what it was a great single player game, and one of the few who hadn´t yet been destroyed by the notion that everyone wants to play with others online.Jacanuk
You get 10 side missions (12 if you have promo DLC) that can be played solo or in co-op
13 campaign missionsÂ
Only 4 missions are co-op only.
What are you even complaining about. Double Agent only had 7 unique campaign missions. Most of the time, you were dicking around at the JBA headquaters doing repetitive and boring tasks.
There are 13 Singleplayer missions and 16 co-op with 4 you are forced to play multiplayer. So again its pretty clear that the focus have been on making this more like COD then the old splinter cell and from my experience its a really bad thing. This is without a doubt the worst Splinter cell so far, its a decent game no doubt there but its not a splinter cell game, its a cOD CLONE who tries to gain success by using the splinter cell name.No...you're wrong. Why did you even bother posting again if I already posted facts about the side missions? The majority of side missions can be played SOLO. There are only 4 missions that need to be played co-op. Did you also hate Chaos Theory? Because that game also had missions which forced you be in co-op. What does Call of Duty have to do with anything here? What are you even complaining about?
[QUOTE="Jacanuk"][QUOTE="idunnodude"]Dont buy Blacklist before its on sale, is my opinion and you can finish the main missions and game in about 4-6 hours wow are you serious? damn i was planning to get this game but now im not so sure. i really wish devs would go back to focusing more on the single player and making games longer instead of all this online stuff. i hate paying $60 for a game or whatever then beating it in one sitting on the same day i bought it.ok im thinking of getting blacklist it looks great. im not very familiar with splinter cell but after playing hitman absolution (great game, dissapointing levels) i want a new awesome stealth game. the funny thing is you guys completely ignored my initial question and went straight to the previous game comparisons and what not. I just wanted to know, how long is blacklist? like main campaign and side content and all. basically how long is all the single player content in the game?
idunnodude
The campaign is 8-10 hours in length and is highly replayable. The only way your going to beat this game in 4 hours is if you rush through all the levels just shooting everybody. The 8-10 hour campaign combined with the side missions and co-op missions easily makes this the longest Splinter Cell game ever made.Â
No...you're wrong. Why did you even bother posting again if I already posted facts about the side missions? The majority of side missions can be played SOLO. There are only 4 missions that need to be played co-op. Did you also hate Chaos Theory? Because that game also had missions which forced you be in co-op. What does Call of Duty have to do with anything here? What are you even complaining about?
JangoWuzHere
You might want to read what i actually write and not just go with what you think i might or should have posted.
It doesnt matter that you can play the missions solo, the mission are still made for multiplayer, and you can feel it, i tried playing a few of the missions co-op and it was obvious from the get go that this mission was made for a co-op play in mind. And thats my biggest problem, again its a decent game, and if they had called it Tom Clancys Blacklist and made "sam Fischer" be another guy, i would not have had a problem. But its a Splinter Cell game, and even from Conviction, this seems like such a sell out and a giant step back. Splinter Cell is a singleplayer with some co-op play, not a co-op game with some singleplayer experience.
And no i didn´t hate any of the splinter cell games until this one, because no other game have been so much focused on being a multiplayer experience and not a singleplayer game like it used to be.
And you ask what COD has to do with it, well the game felt like a bad clone of that.Â
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wow are you serious? damn i was planning to get this game but now im not so sure. i really wish devs would go back to focusing more on the single player and making games longer instead of all this online stuff. i hate paying $60 for a game or whatever then beating it in one sitting on the same day i bought it.[QUOTE="idunnodude"][QUOTE="Jacanuk"] Dont buy Blacklist before its on sale, is my opinion and you can finish the main missions and game in about 4-6 hoursJangoWuzHere
The campaign is 8-10 hours in length and is highly replayable. The only way your going to beat this game in 4 hours is if you rush through all the levels just shooting everybody. The 8-10 hour campaign combined with the side missions and co-op missions easily makes this the longest Splinter Cell game ever made.Â
If you get 8-10 hours out of the main missions your either slow as h.... or like to explore. If you just do the main missions the game is no more than 5hours at max.[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]
No...you're wrong. Why did you even bother posting again if I already posted facts about the side missions? The majority of side missions can be played SOLO. There are only 4 missions that need to be played co-op. Did you also hate Chaos Theory? Because that game also had missions which forced you be in co-op. What does Call of Duty have to do with anything here? What are you even complaining about?
Jacanuk
You might want to read what i actually write and not just go with what you think i might or should have posted.
It doesnt matter that you can play the missions solo, the mission are still made for multiplayer, and you can feel it, i tried playing a few of the missions co-op and it was obvious from the get go that this mission was made for a co-op play in mind. And thats my biggest problem, again its a decent game, and if they had called it Tom Clancys Blacklist and made "sam Fischer" be another guy, i would not have had a problem. But its a Splinter Cell game, and even from Conviction, this seems like such a sell out and a giant step back. Splinter Cell is a singleplayer with some co-op play, not a co-op game with some singleplayer experience.
And no i didn´t hate any of the splinter cell games until this one, because no other game have been so much focused on being a multiplayer experience and not a singleplayer game like it used to be.
And you ask what COD has to do with it, well the game felt like a bad clone of that.Â
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I read what you posted and you are still very wrong.
"It doesnt matter that you can play the missions solo, the mission are still made for multiplayer, and you can feel it, i tried playing a few of the missions co-op and it was obvious from the get go that this mission was made for a co-op play in mind."
Are the missions too hard for you? Why does it feel like a co-op experience? The only co-op things in those missions are a few co-op doors you can't use on your own. I played through all of the side missions by myself, and they work just fine as a solo experience. Infact, I would say that the side missions were intended to be mostly played solo. The missions go by too fast if you play with a co-op pal.
Still not seeing how this game is a CoD clone. Still don't understand what you are complaining about. This is really pitty stuff you are complaining about.
[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="idunnodude"] wow are you serious? damn i was planning to get this game but now im not so sure. i really wish devs would go back to focusing more on the single player and making games longer instead of all this online stuff. i hate paying $60 for a game or whatever then beating it in one sitting on the same day i bought it.Jacanuk
The campaign is 8-10 hours in length and is highly replayable. The only way your going to beat this game in 4 hours is if you rush through all the levels just shooting everybody. The 8-10 hour campaign combined with the side missions and co-op missions easily makes this the longest Splinter Cell game ever made.Â
If you get 8-10 hours out of the main missions your either slow as h.... or like to explore. If you just do the main missions the game is no more than 5hours at max.http://www.howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=12651
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