SNES FF vs. PS1 FF: Listen up, valereth-1 and Yonathin3155!

Lets assume for a minute that the N64/PS1 era is the worst era in the history of games and ruined gaming forever. Even if that is true, It is also the most important era in games because, for a lot of people (and when I say a lot I mean millions of people) It was the era that got them into games and helped push gaming as a whole. By trying to turn back a clock that cannot be turned will acomplish nothing. And, even in the OFFICAL NINTENDO MAGAZINE, (and these guys have been playing since the NES days) stated that the N64/PS1 era is the most important era of games. Mario 64 and Zelda OoT were given the award for best game of there respetive franchises. (By millions of gaming magazines and websites, not just the offical Nintendo magazine) I am sure if there was a Metroid 64 game it would have been awarded the best Metroid game. Its the same for FF7, 8, 9 and Tactics, which is regarded the pinnacle of the series. The NES/SNES era is not coming back, and hating on the N64/PS1 era and every era after will NOT bring it back, no matter how amazing it was.

And thats the end of my rant.

Lets assume for a minute that the N64/PS1 era is the worst era in the history of games and ruined gaming forever. Even if that is true, It is also the most important era in games because, for a lot of people (and when I say a lot I mean millions of people) It was the era that got them into games and helped push gaming as a whole. By trying to turn back a clock that cannot be turned will acomplish nothing. And, even in the OFFICAL NINTENDO MAGAZINE, (and these guys have been playing since the NES days) stated that the N64/PS1 era is the most important era of games. Mario 64 and Zelda OoT were given the award for best game of there respetive franchises. (By millions of gaming magazines and websites, not just the offical Nintendo magazine) I am sure if there was a Metroid 64 game it would have been awarded the best Metroid game. Its the same for FF7, 8, 9 and Tactics, which is regarded the pinnacle of the series. The NES/SNES era is not coming back, and hating on the N64/PS1 era and every era after will NOT bring it back, no matter how amazing it was.

And thats the end of my rant.

samanthademeste

The SNES era was the pinacle of the Final Fantasy series

The NES era is, probably, the most important era in gaming history since...you know...it pulled gaming back from the brink of extinction

Even if FFVI was my favorite FF, the SNES era for Final Fantasy is definitely not the best.

The only greatness to come out of the early days was FFVI itself. Aside from FFIV, but FFIV was only good, it wasn't great

The PS1 era was rocky with FFVIII, but FFVII and FFIX were pretty darn good games.

Even if FFVI was my favorite FF, the SNES era for Final Fantasy is definitely not the best.

The only greatness to come out of the early days was FFVI itself. Aside from FFIV, but FFIV was only good, it wasn't great

The PS1 era was rocky with FFVIII, but FFVII and FFIX were pretty darn good games.

magitekk

Final Fantasy IV is one of the best RPGs ever made

Again, the SNES era is the pinacle of the series

[QUOTE="magitekk"]

Even if FFVI was my favorite FF, the SNES era for Final Fantasy is definitely not the best.

The only greatness to come out of the early days was FFVI itself. Aside from FFIV, but FFIV was only good, it wasn't great

The PS1 era was rocky with FFVIII, but FFVII and FFIX were pretty darn good games.

valereth-1

Final Fantasy IV is one of the best RPGs ever made

Again, the SNES era is the pinacle of the series

Yes, we've established the first two. But the SNES era isn't the pinnacle just for one game, seriously. Final Fantasy V and IV were really quite substandard, then every FF game before that (although good for that time) was mediocre.

Also, the last thing I'd want to hear out of you is how a lot of the later games have so much tech and hardly any fantasy. Hello? FFIV had the Tower of Babil, the Lunar Whale, and the Tower of...Zot? Forgot the other one. And don't get me started with FFVI: you have frickin' sky patrol, for christ's sake. You have cranes, chainsaws, engines, all of this technology. All an FF game needs to be considered a fantasy is a medieval/futuristic setting with some type of magical s*** going on.

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

Even if FFVI was my favorite FF, the SNES era for Final Fantasy is definitely not the best.

The only greatness to come out of the early days was FFVI itself. Aside from FFIV, but FFIV was only good, it wasn't great

The PS1 era was rocky with FFVIII, but FFVII and FFIX were pretty darn good games.

magitekk

Final Fantasy IV is one of the best RPGs ever made

Again, the SNES era is the pinacle of the series

Yes, we've established the first two. But the SNES era isn't the pinnacle just for one game, seriously. Final Fantasy V and IV were really quite substandard, then every FF game before that (although good for that time) was mediocre.

Also, the last thing I'd want to hear out of you is how a lot of the later games have so much tech and hardly any fantasy. Hello? FFIV had the Tower of Babil, the Lunar Whale, and the Tower of...Zot? Forgot the other one. And don't get me started with FFVI: you have frickin' sky patrol, for christ's sake. You have cranes, chainsaws, engines, all of this technology. All an FF game needs to be considered a fantasy is a medieval/futuristic setting with some type of magical s*** going on.

All of the first 6 FF games have some sci fi elements. I am fine with that. What I am not fine with is how Final Fantasy VII, VIII and XIII are not fantasy at all, really.

[QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

Even if FFVI was my favorite FF, the SNES era for Final Fantasy is definitely not the best.

The only greatness to come out of the early days was FFVI itself. Aside from FFIV, but FFIV was only good, it wasn't great

The PS1 era was rocky with FFVIII, but FFVII and FFIX were pretty darn good games.

valereth-1

Final Fantasy IV is one of the best RPGs ever made

Again, the SNES era is the pinacle of the series

Yes, we've established the first two. But the SNES era isn't the pinnacle just for one game, seriously. Final Fantasy V and IV were really quite substandard, then every FF game before that (although good for that time) was mediocre.

Also, the last thing I'd want to hear out of you is how a lot of the later games have so much tech and hardly any fantasy. Hello? FFIV had the Tower of Babil, the Lunar Whale, and the Tower of...Zot? Forgot the other one. And don't get me started with FFVI: you have frickin' sky patrol, for christ's sake. You have cranes, chainsaws, engines, all of this technology. All an FF game needs to be considered a fantasy is a medieval/futuristic setting with some type of magical s*** going on.

All of the first 6 FF games have some sci fi elements. I am fine with that. What I am not fine with is how Final Fantasy VII, VIII and XIII are not fantasy at all, really.

cool you left out IX and XII those two are my favorites in the series :P

[QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

Even if FFVI was my favorite FF, the SNES era for Final Fantasy is definitely not the best.

The only greatness to come out of the early days was FFVI itself. Aside from FFIV, but FFIV was only good, it wasn't great

The PS1 era was rocky with FFVIII, but FFVII and FFIX were pretty darn good games.

valereth-1

Final Fantasy IV is one of the best RPGs ever made

Again, the SNES era is the pinacle of the series

Yes, we've established the first two. But the SNES era isn't the pinnacle just for one game, seriously. Final Fantasy V and IV were really quite substandard, then every FF game before that (although good for that time) was mediocre.

Also, the last thing I'd want to hear out of you is how a lot of the later games have so much tech and hardly any fantasy. Hello? FFIV had the Tower of Babil, the Lunar Whale, and the Tower of...Zot? Forgot the other one. And don't get me started with FFVI: you have frickin' sky patrol, for christ's sake. You have cranes, chainsaws, engines, all of this technology. All an FF game needs to be considered a fantasy is a medieval/futuristic setting with some type of magical s*** going on.

All of the first 6 FF games have some sci fi elements. I am fine with that. What I am not fine with is how Final Fantasy VII, VIII and XIII are not fantasy at all, really.

Its called steam punk.

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]

[QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

Even if FFVI was my favorite FF, the SNES era for Final Fantasy is definitely not the best.

The only greatness to come out of the early days was FFVI itself. Aside from FFIV, but FFIV was only good, it wasn't great

The PS1 era was rocky with FFVIII, but FFVII and FFIX were pretty darn good games.

Fenian_lostsoul

Final Fantasy IV is one of the best RPGs ever made

Again, the SNES era is the pinacle of the series

Yes, we've established the first two. But the SNES era isn't the pinnacle just for one game, seriously. Final Fantasy V and IV were really quite substandard, then every FF game before that (although good for that time) was mediocre.

Also, the last thing I'd want to hear out of you is how a lot of the later games have so much tech and hardly any fantasy. Hello? FFIV had the Tower of Babil, the Lunar Whale, and the Tower of...Zot? Forgot the other one. And don't get me started with FFVI: you have frickin' sky patrol, for christ's sake. You have cranes, chainsaws, engines, all of this technology. All an FF game needs to be considered a fantasy is a medieval/futuristic setting with some type of magical s*** going on.

All of the first 6 FF games have some sci fi elements. I am fine with that. What I am not fine with is how Final Fantasy VII, VIII and XIII are not fantasy at all, really.

cool you left out IX and XII those two are my favorites in the series :P

FFXII gets the Final Fantasy setting very right. It was midevil with sci fi elements, much like the first 6 games and IX. It is just on a much larger scale than..well..any other non online FF game

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]

[QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

Even if FFVI was my favorite FF, the SNES era for Final Fantasy is definitely not the best.

The only greatness to come out of the early days was FFVI itself. Aside from FFIV, but FFIV was only good, it wasn't great

The PS1 era was rocky with FFVIII, but FFVII and FFIX were pretty darn good games.

samanthademeste

Final Fantasy IV is one of the best RPGs ever made

Again, the SNES era is the pinacle of the series

Yes, we've established the first two. But the SNES era isn't the pinnacle just for one game, seriously. Final Fantasy V and IV were really quite substandard, then every FF game before that (although good for that time) was mediocre.

Also, the last thing I'd want to hear out of you is how a lot of the later games have so much tech and hardly any fantasy. Hello? FFIV had the Tower of Babil, the Lunar Whale, and the Tower of...Zot? Forgot the other one. And don't get me started with FFVI: you have frickin' sky patrol, for christ's sake. You have cranes, chainsaws, engines, all of this technology. All an FF game needs to be considered a fantasy is a medieval/futuristic setting with some type of magical s*** going on.

All of the first 6 FF games have some sci fi elements. I am fine with that. What I am not fine with is how Final Fantasy VII, VIII and XIII are not fantasy at all, really.

Its called steam punk.

Wait. Don't play Bioshock. Play System Shock 2 instead. IT is like Bioshock but challenging with more depth and cyberpunk instead of steampunk. It is better. In every single way except on a technical level because it is 10 years older

Oh yeah, I was also going to mention that about Nintendo vs Playstation, a ton of great 3rd party games(Playstation)> a few great 1st party games. (Nintendo) also Playstation can play games, play movies, play music, store pictures and go on the internet. Nintendo can only do 30% of that!

I would've thought that FFVI was the closest to steam punk than any other FF, really. FFVII is great, but it is a lot more tech than magic, I'd say.magitekk

[QUOTE="magitekk"]I would've thought that FFVI was the closest to steam punk than any other FF, really. FFVII is great, but it is a lot more tech than magic, I'd say.valereth-1

You mean the magitek armor? There's more than that. There're steam engines and a whole bunch of other crap. Edgar's toys, the droids and stuff. Those craney things and stuff I don't even know what to call.

EDIT: I think Vector would be the best thing to mention. The music there and everything, very machiney. 

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]I would've thought that FFVI was the closest to steam punk than any other FF, really. FFVII is great, but it is a lot more tech than magic, I'd say.magitekk

You mean the magitek armor? There's more than that. There're steam engines and a whole bunch of other crap. Edgar's toys, the droids and stuff. Those craney things and stuff I don't even know what to call.

EDIT: I think Vector would be the best thing to mention. The music there and everything, very machiney. 

[QUOTE="magitekk"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]I would've thought that FFVI was the closest to steam punk than any other FF, really. FFVII is great, but it is a lot more tech than magic, I'd say.valereth-1

You mean the magitek armor? There's more than that. There're steam engines and a whole bunch of other crap. Edgar's toys, the droids and stuff. Those craney things and stuff I don't even know what to call.

EDIT: I think Vector would be the best thing to mention. The music there and everything, very machiney.

On the contrary, I feel there's actually a lot more modern/futuristic aspects of FFVI than medieval.

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]I would've thought that FFVI was the closest to steam punk than any other FF, really. FFVII is great, but it is a lot more tech than magic, I'd say.magitekk

You mean the magitek armor? There's more than that. There're steam engines and a whole bunch of other crap. Edgar's toys, the droids and stuff. Those craney things and stuff I don't even know what to call.

EDIT: I think Vector would be the best thing to mention. The music there and everything, very machiney.

On the contrary, I feel there's actually a lot more modern/futuristic aspects of FFVI than medieval.

[QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]I would've thought that FFVI was the closest to steam punk than any other FF, really. FFVII is great, but it is a lot more tech than magic, I'd say.valereth-1

You mean the magitek armor? There's more than that. There're steam engines and a whole bunch of other crap. Edgar's toys, the droids and stuff. Those craney things and stuff I don't even know what to call.

EDIT: I think Vector would be the best thing to mention. The music there and everything, very machiney.

On the contrary, I feel there's actually a lot more modern/futuristic aspects of FFVI than medieval.

"I feel" meaning "my opinion". You can't be wrong with opinions, stop getting your panties in a knot, troll, you act as if I'm insulting the game (which I'm not)

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]I would've thought that FFVI was the closest to steam punk than any other FF, really. FFVII is great, but it is a lot more tech than magic, I'd say.magitekk

You mean the magitek armor? There's more than that. There're steam engines and a whole bunch of other crap. Edgar's toys, the droids and stuff. Those craney things and stuff I don't even know what to call.

EDIT: I think Vector would be the best thing to mention. The music there and everything, very machiney.

On the contrary, I feel there's actually a lot more modern/futuristic aspects of FFVI than medieval.

"I feel" meaning "my opinion". You can't be wrong with opinions, stop getting your panties in a knot, troll, you act as if I'm insulting the game (which I'm not)

[QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]I would've thought that FFVI was the closest to steam punk than any other FF, really. FFVII is great, but it is a lot more tech than magic, I'd say.valereth-1

You mean the magitek armor? There's more than that. There're steam engines and a whole bunch of other crap. Edgar's toys, the droids and stuff. Those craney things and stuff I don't even know what to call.

EDIT: I think Vector would be the best thing to mention. The music there and everything, very machiney.

On the contrary, I feel there's actually a lot more modern/futuristic aspects of FFVI than medieval.

"I feel" meaning "my opinion". You can't be wrong with opinions, stop getting your panties in a knot, troll, you act as if I'm insulting the game (which I'm not)

Saying 'the earth is flat' isn't an opinion, it's just incorrect. There are facts, then there aren't facts. That isn't a fact. An opinion is an idea, a preference that cannot be refuted because there is no right or wrong answer.

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]I would've thought that FFVI was the closest to steam punk than any other FF, really. FFVII is great, but it is a lot more tech than magic, I'd say.magitekk

You mean the magitek armor? There's more than that. There're steam engines and a whole bunch of other crap. Edgar's toys, the droids and stuff. Those craney things and stuff I don't even know what to call.

EDIT: I think Vector would be the best thing to mention. The music there and everything, very machiney.

On the contrary, I feel there's actually a lot more modern/futuristic aspects of FFVI than medieval.

"I feel" meaning "my opinion". You can't be wrong with opinions, stop getting your panties in a knot, troll, you act as if I'm insulting the game (which I'm not)

Saying 'the earth is flat' isn't an opinion, it's just incorrect. There are facts, then there aren't facts. That isn't a fact. An opinion is an idea, a preference that cannot be refuted because there is no right or wrong answer.

I'll just leave this here

I'll just leave this here

magitekk

Hilarious and true at the same time!

I'll just leave this here

magitekk

Final Fantasy: steam punk

Dragon Quest: fantasy

Phantasy Star: sci-fi

Megami Tensei: urban/modern

Ys: fantasy

Tales: fantasy

[QUOTE="magitekk"]

I'll just leave this here

valereth-1

I'm not the one going 'you're wrong, you're wrong'. I'm just here for the helluv it.

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

I'll just leave this here

magitekk

I'm not the one going 'you're wrong, you're wrong'. I'm just here for the helluv it.

[QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

I'll just leave this here

valereth-1

I'm not the one going 'you're wrong, you're wrong'. I'm just here for the helluv it.

Ur-banned dictionary definition of 'Steampunk':

"A fantasy story that involves using steam era technology to make highly complicated and advanced machines."

Omg, wow? You know what that sounds like???? Take a guess.

Taken from the FF wiki article for 'Final Fantasy VI': Final Fantasy VI features fourteen playable characters, the largest cast of any main series game in the Final Fantasy series. The game is set in a fantasy steampunk-themedworld, at a technological level roughly corresponding to Earth during the Second Industrial Revolution. It is also the last title in the series to be released for the Super Nintendo console and the last title to be renamed.

EDIT: And in case you feel you have anything to say to that, here's the Webster's definition:

Pwned, b*tch

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

I'll just leave this here

magitekk

I'm not the one going 'you're wrong, you're wrong'. I'm just here for the helluv it.

Ur-banned dictionary definition of 'Steampunk':

"A fantasy story that involves using steam era technology to make highly complicated and advanced machines."

Omg, wow? You know what that sounds like???? Take a guess.

Taken from the FF wiki article for 'Final Fantasy VI': Final Fantasy VI features fourteen playable characters, the largest cast of any main series game in the Final Fantasy series. The game is set in a fantasy steampunk-themedworld, at a technological level roughly corresponding to Earth during the Second Industrial Revolution. It is also the last title in the series to be released for the Super Nintendo console and the last title to be renamed.

EDIT: And in case you feel you have anything to say to that, here's the Webster's definition:

Pwned, b*tch

[QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

I'll just leave this here

valereth-1

I'm not the one going 'you're wrong, you're wrong'. I'm just here for the helluv it.

Ur-banned dictionary definition of 'Steampunk':

"A fantasy story that involves using steam era technology to make highly complicated and advanced machines."

Omg, wow? You know what that sounds like???? Take a guess.

Taken from the FF wiki article for 'Final Fantasy VI': Final Fantasy VI features fourteen playable characters, the largest cast of any main series game in the Final Fantasy series. The game is set in a fantasy steampunk-themedworld, at a technological level roughly corresponding to Earth during the Second Industrial Revolution. It is also the last title in the series to be released for the Super Nintendo console and the last title to be renamed.

EDIT: And in case you feel you have anything to say to that, here's the Webster's definition:

Pwned, b*tch

Hence the reason why I provided the Webster's definition, you dotard.

valereth-1, why are you so mean to magitekk? She is nice but you just ignore everything she says.

valereth-1, why are you so mean to magitekk? She is nice but you just ignore everything she says.

samanthademeste

Lol; I guess it's safe to say that I'm coming off as a tad bit more combatant than valreth right now. Though I can't stand when people try to tell me I'm wrong when in reality they are the ones that aren't correct.

[QUOTE="samanthademeste"]

valereth-1, why are you so mean to magitekk? She is nice but you just ignore everything she says.

magitekk

Lol; I guess it's safe to say that I'm coming off as a tad bit more combatant than valreth right now. Though I can't stand when people try to tell me I'm wrong when in reality they are the ones that aren't correct.

Maybe so, but that guy does not seem to know the definition of the word steampunk if it hit him in the face.

[QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

I'll just leave this here

magitekk

I'm not the one going 'you're wrong, you're wrong'. I'm just here for the helluv it.

Ur-banned dictionary definition of 'Steampunk':

"A fantasy story that involves using steam era technology to make highly complicated and advanced machines."

Omg, wow? You know what that sounds like???? Take a guess.

Taken from the FF wiki article for 'Final Fantasy VI': Final Fantasy VI features fourteen playable characters, the largest cast of any main series game in the Final Fantasy series. The game is set in a fantasy steampunk-themedworld, at a technological level roughly corresponding to Earth during the Second Industrial Revolution. It is also the last title in the series to be released for the Super Nintendo console and the last title to be renamed.

EDIT: And in case you feel you have anything to say to that, here's the Webster's definition:

Pwned, b*tch

Hence the reason why I provided the Webster's definition, you dotard.

[QUOTE="samanthademeste"]

valereth-1, why are you so mean to magitekk? She is nice but you just ignore everything she says.

magitekk

Lol; I guess it's safe to say that I'm coming off as a tad bit more combatant than valreth right now. Though I can't stand when people try to tell me I'm wrong when in reality they are the ones that aren't correct.

This thread delivers. :lol:

This thread delivers. :lol:

DrAwesomeMD

This has become my favorite part of this thread. 

[QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"][QUOTE="valereth-1"][QUOTE="magitekk"]

I'll just leave this here

valereth-1

I'm not the one going 'you're wrong, you're wrong'. I'm just here for the helluv it.

Ur-banned dictionary definition of 'Steampunk':

"A fantasy story that involves using steam era technology to make highly complicated and advanced machines."

Omg, wow? You know what that sounds like???? Take a guess.

Taken from the FF wiki article for 'Final Fantasy VI': Final Fantasy VI features fourteen playable characters, the largest cast of any main series game in the Final Fantasy series. The game is set in a fantasy steampunk-themedworld, at a technological level roughly corresponding to Earth during the Second Industrial Revolution. It is also the last title in the series to be released for the Super Nintendo console and the last title to be renamed.

EDIT: And in case you feel you have anything to say to that, here's the Webster's definition:

Pwned, b*tch

Hence the reason why I provided the Webster's definition, you dotard.

 QUOTE FROM MY LAST POST: And in case you feel you have anything to say to that, here's the Webster's definition

Then I provided the link. Now what were you saying?

You STILL discredited yourself from the very begining. Final Fantasy VI is STILL a medieval fantasy gamevalereth-1

Excuses, excuses. In all honesty, it would appear that you even -know- that you've lost yet you don't want to accept defeat. 'Steampunk'. STEAM, GOD DAMMIT. What powers a majority of the machines in the world of FFVI?

I looked up 'steampunk video games' into google. This was the very first link. Now, would you tell me what's the first game listed there?

Blarghlesplet

But that's not all. "Omg it's wikipedia, completely discredible." I'd like you to take a look at many other listings of steampunk video games and see what you find. If that doesn't help, look up more definitions of the term 'steampunk'; each definition has the same basic meaning.

EDIT:

Old, but I just had to say something about this:

There aren't any steam-powered machines in 'Bioshock'. The city itself even runs on geothermal power, with everything else inside it being electronic or internal combustion-powered.

If anything, BioShock is closer to cyberpunk than steampunk, but in a definitive 1950′s low-tech sort of way.

There are no excuses. There is just ignorance on your part. You proved that you have no idea what you are talking about and we can take nothing you ever say seriously. It is questionable whether you even played the damned game.

Bioshock has a very steampunk look and feel. If you do not know that, then you ahve never even seen screenshots of the game. To call it cyberpunk is excessively stupid

There are no excuses. There is just ignorance on your part. You proved that you have no idea what you are talking about and we can take nothing you ever say seriously. It is questionable whether you even played the damned game.

Bioshock has a very steampunk look and feel. If you do not know that, then you ahve never even seen screenshots of the game. To call it cyberpunk is excessively stupid

valereth-1

You just fired back with insults; how's about firing back with something decent.....I dunno, evidence, on your part?

Also, I'm just dying to know. Who is 'we'? You mean you? I herped so hard that I derped. I guarantee, a lot more people here can't take you seriously as compared to me. NOBODY aside from you here would argue that FFVI isn't steampunk. Bioshock is lacking in the fantasy department, which steampunk happens to contain a good amount of.

Linky

This is yet another wikipedia article; yet it is specifically for the term 'Steampunk'. Scroll down to 'Fantasy-World' and check out some of the games that are noted....actually, check the very first one.

This isn't about whether it's credible or not, it's about how many people consider it steampunk, obviously to a decent degree for them to label FFVI as the first game amongst their list of 'steampunk' games.

valereth-1 and Yonathin3155=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVel5JNZS80

Why should I bother? You have proven that you are ignorant and stubborn. It is like arguing with a wall. You have also strongly hinted that you have never played the game beforevalereth-1

It's like looking at the same post over and over again. . .

I think it's safe to say that you have this confusion as to what steampunk is. It isn't some futuristic, spunky kind of game with mega ultra robots or whatever the hell you like to think of it as. Steampunk is based off of 19th century technology, technology that is equal in resemblence to that of the Industrial Revolution. The only difference is that steampunk takes it to a new level, adding magic into the picture to give these machines their 'life' as you can say. Or for the kiddies 'suped up'.

[QUOTE="valereth-1"]Why should I bother? You have proven that you are ignorant and stubborn. It is like arguing with a wall. You have also strongly hinted that you have never played the game beforemagitekk

It's like looking at the same post over and over again. . .

I think it's safe to say that you have this confusion as to what steampunk is. It isn't some futuristic, spunky kind of game with mega ultra robots or whatever the hell you like to think of it as. Steampunk is based off of 19th century technology, technology that is equal in resemblence to that of the Industrial Revolution. The only difference is that steampunk takes it to a new level, adding magic into the picture to give these machines their 'life' as you can say. Or for the kiddies 'suped up'.

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[QUOTE="valereth-1"]Why should I bother? You have proven that you are ignorant and stubborn. It is like arguing with a wall. You have also strongly hinted that you have never played the game beforevalereth-1

It's like looking at the same post over and over again. . .

I think it's safe to say that you have this confusion as to what steampunk is. It isn't some futuristic, spunky kind of game with mega ultra robots or whatever the hell you like to think of it as. Steampunk is based off of 19th century technology, technology that is equal in resemblence to that of the Industrial Revolution. The only difference is that steampunk takes it to a new level, adding magic into the picture to give these machines their 'life' as you can say. Or for the kiddies 'suped up'.

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THE DEFINITION IS RIGHT HERE. I restated it in my last post. It's so apparent what steampunk is; must I put on a puppet show for your reluctant ass?! How about some flash cards? My god!

You know that you've lost this. If anyone here was willing to speak up at this moment, they'd agree with me. Do you think 5000+ users are 'confused and stubborn'?! F*** NO!