Leaked driver confirms rebrands in Radeon 300 series

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This is from VideoCardZ:

AMD Radeon R9 300 series are just around the corner.

Exclusive: Confirmed rebrands of AMD Radeon 300 series

More and more leaks confirm what we were telling you for the past few weeks. Radeon 300 series are essentially rebranded cards from Radeon 200 series. Only FIJI will be new GPU in the series. In fact FIJI might just get it’s own series, just like NVIDIA’s TITAN.

Here’s a list of all confirmed rebrands from Radeon 200 series to 300 series. There are three Curacao parts, one Bonaire, one Tonga and two Hawaiis.

AMD6658.1AMD Radeon(TM) R7 360 GraphicsBonaire XTX [Radeon R7 260X]
AMD67B0.1AMD Radeon R9 300 SeriesHawaii XT [Radeon R9 290X]
AMD67B1.1AMD Radeon R9 300 SeriesHawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290]
AMD6810.1AMD Radeon(TM) R7 370 GraphicsCuracao XT [Radeon R9 270X]
AMD6810.2AMD Radeon (TM) R7 300 SeriesCuracao XT [Radeon R9 270X]
AMD6811.1AMD Radeon (TM) R7 300 SeriesCuracao PRO [Radeon R9 270/370]
AMD6939.1AMD Radeon R9 300 SeriesTonga PRO [Radeon R9 285]

FIJI was not included in this driver release. Radeon R9 Hawaii is neither shown as R9 380 nor as R9 390. Right now it’s just R9 300, just like R9 285-rebrand. Both Hawaii cards will get a small bump in clock speeds and most importantly 8GB memory.

ASUS confirms Radeon R9 390X to feature 8GB memory

Meanwhile, ASUS is busy preparing the new stickers for Radeon 300 series. One of such stickers would allegedly be applied to Radeon R9 390X. We still don’t know if Radeon R9 390X is in fact rebranded R9 290X, but so far there is simply no reason to believe otherwise.

The list of ASUS Radeon 300 series has now been updated with ASUS R9390X-DC2-8GD5. What’s interesting, on the same page you can already see the listing of GTX 960 with DirectCU 3 cooler. Why would ASUS not use DC3 cooler for Radeon 300 series? Here’s a list of all confirmed ASUS Radeon 300 cards via WCCFTech:

  • ASUS R9390X-DC2-8GD5
  • ASUS STRIX-R9380-OC-2GD5
  • ASUS STRIX-R9370-OC-4GD5
  • ASUS STRIX-R7360X-DC2OC2-2GD5
  • ASUS R7360-2GD5
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#2 horgen  Moderator
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AMD... Re-releasing old GPU won't give them significantly better performance. You gotta make new one...

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It seems like AMD is really struggling. Keep re-branding things. This is not how you win back market share. Nvidia has the 980 Ti around the corner too...

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390X 8GB GDDR5? What about HBM? Is it gonna be a 4GB?

Looks like, PredatorRules should get a 290 since 380 will only be 2GB... that's just sad...

The only thing they added to a 290 is called it a 390 with more VRAM... wow. I expected a little more on their cards.

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@insane_metalist said:

390X 8GB GDDR5? What about HBM? Is it gonna be a 4GB?

Looks like, PredatorRules should get a 290 since 380 will only be 2GB... that's just sad...

The only thing they added to a 290 is called it a 390 with more VRAM... wow. I expected a little more on their cards.

Already did, and the extra VRAM does not lure me at all since It's going to be a long time since I'll leave 1080 gaming.

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#6  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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These are some unusual choices - I would have thought they would ditch the R7 260x in favor of 265 for rebranding, for example, and maybe juice it to effectively a 265x. I'm assuming the others will be juiced in some way - e.g. the 285 rebrand *could* be really cool if it's effectively a 4GB 285x - because the 285 is in some respects a similar technological move to the 960, and were it to be beefed up it would (will?) be a pretty attractive card.

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Sigh, AMD disappoint yet again, anything to lower costs I guess. Glad I went with the 970 a week ago, was the right decision seeing as these AMD cards are a rip and will keep people waiting another year for something better.

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Looks like, I'll be waiting on 14nm next year.
I really thought, they would bring more to the table.

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#9  Edited By insane_metalist
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Looks like, I'll be waiting on 14nm next year.

I really thought, they would bring more to the table.

PredatorRules, Tri-X is one of the best AMD cards from what I hear, it overclocks quiet nicely. So in no time you'll have either or beyond 290X performance.

I wanted to ask you for a favor, could you post some pics once Tri-X is installed, thank you.

Now you won't have to worry about VRAM @ 1080P.

Yay a legit 290 owner. If you have any questions then feel free to ask. We can help each other out.

You'll definitely love the card (specially at this price). Once I sold my SLI 780 TI, I never looked back. 3GB of VRAM was not enough for 1440P. But my 290's are perfect for 1440P.

Since you're playing @ 1080, you'll have ZERO issues. Plus to me Tri-X and Vapor-X are absolutely beautiful and overclockes nicely stock.

Just don't OC too much, you want to extended the life of the the card. It already gets done everything as it should.

You'd also need a case with good airflow, 290's run hot.

I would recommend at Corsair 300R. I don't think Corsair 200R will have enough rooms for such a monster card (long).

Plus, Tri-X 290 already comes with 1000 / 5200.

You should be getting 1100 / 1450 - 1500

You might not even have to raise voltage (maybe a tiny bit). I was testing my reference card not Windforce and even on reference card 947 / 1250, I can get 1100 / 1450 perfectly stable.

Since you Tri-X higher core clock and high effective memory clock, you should be able to pass my cards.

I have gotten one of my card to 1172 / 1502 but it's not really stable (enough to run benchmarks etc).

I hope, you enjoy your little under priced monster.

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I'm confused as to why the article assumes the 390x would be a re-branded 290x.

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@topgunmv said:

I'm confused as to why the article assumes the 390x would be a re-branded 290x.

yeah I dunno, I'm kind of suspicious of what's truth and what's assumption in this. Even the rebrands, one must assume, will have some important improvements as well

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@xantufrog said:
@topgunmv said:

I'm confused as to why the article assumes the 390x would be a re-branded 290x.

yeah I dunno, I'm kind of suspicious of what's truth and what's assumption in this. Even the rebrands, one must assume, will have some important improvements as well

AMD officially confirmed that HBM1 is limited to 4GB VRAM.

Asus confirmed that 390X has 8GB VRAM.

To be honest, since this is not here yet, we might get surprised and see a Fiji XT/Pro with GDDR5 in the end...

Since Titan X proved that there is no need yet for HBM, by providing almost 50% more performance than R9 290X with 384bit GDDR5.

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Wait, 380 gets 2GB ram while 370 gets 4GB? That's odd.

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Moar infoz:

AMD Radeon 300 series to arrive on June 16th

The PC Gaming Show website has been updated with a clockdown set for June 16th, when the event starts.

AMD Radeon 300 series to be released mid-June

According to SweClockers, AMD has forbid AIBs from showing any Radeon 300 graphics card on Computex. Instead, AMD is planning a special event for PC Gamers currently set for E3 expo. This is where these cards will finally be shown to the public.

SweClockers claim that AMD has given a red light to all board partners for any kind of presentations or public announcement happening at Computex. It is quite disappointing to say at least.

If that’s all true, then the only new card to be shown at Computex is GeForce GTX 980 Ti. Maybe AMD AIBs will at least give us a glimpse at their new coolers?

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@horgen said:

Wait, 380 gets 2GB ram while 370 gets 4GB? That's odd.

yeah, I'm telling you - these seem awfully patched together. I'll just wait and see what actually comes out.

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@insane_metalist said:

Looks like, I'll be waiting on 14nm next year.

I really thought, they would bring more to the table.

PredatorRules, Tri-X is one of the best AMD cards from what I hear, it overclocks quiet nicely. So in no time you'll have either or beyond 290X performance.

I wanted to ask you for a favor, could you post some pics once Tri-X is installed, thank you.

Now you won't have to worry about VRAM @ 1080P.

Yay a legit 290 owner. If you have any questions then feel free to ask. We can help each other out.

You'll definitely love the card (specially at this price). Once I sold my SLI 780 TI, I never looked back. 3GB of VRAM was not enough for 1440P. But my 290's are perfect for 1440P.

Since you're playing @ 1080, you'll have ZERO issues. Plus to me Tri-X and Vapor-X are absolutely beautiful and overclockes nicely stock.

Just don't OC too much, you want to extended the life of the the card. It already gets done everything as it should.

You'd also need a case with good airflow, 290's run hot.

I would recommend at Corsair 300R. I don't think Corsair 200R will have enough rooms for such a monster card (long).

Plus, Tri-X 290 already comes with 1000 / 5200.

You should be getting 1100 / 1450 - 1500

You might not even have to raise voltage (maybe a tiny bit). I was testing my reference card not Windforce and even on reference card 947 / 1250, I can get 1100 / 1450 perfectly stable.

Since you Tri-X higher core clock and high effective memory clock, you should be able to pass my cards.

I have gotten one of my card to 1172 / 1502 but it's not really stable (enough to run benchmarks etc).

I hope, you enjoy your little under priced monster.

Will do.

Yes I saw that with OC it passes the 780Ti performance.

I'm thinking about Antec GX500, GX900 or Corsair SPEC 02, eventually I'll save some money and cut off some of my unused HDD bays.

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@horgen, @xantufrog: Maybe these are like GT 730 4GB situations... Which I really don't know why they are using so much VRAM in so weak GPUs...

ps: R7 240 4GB, R9 270X 4GB too :P

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@PredatorRules: I have a GX700 for my HTPC and it's great. I do recommend Antec towers.

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DAM, ALL THESE RUMORS! :P

I just can't resist posting it:

AMD Fiji to be codenamed Radeon Fury

Guys over at Expreview might have just revealed the codename for the upcoming AMD’s flagship GPU.

AMD Radeon Fury to compete with GeForce GTX TITAN

If you somehow still remember the Rage series, then you know where the Fury came from. Fury Pro, Fury Maxx were one of the most powerful cards back in the day. Well, it seems AMD might just go back to its roots, as Expreview confirmed that Fiji will be the part of completely new series — Radeon Fury.

Just remember that this is a rumor, absolutely nothing confirmed. Yet still, I think this is one of the best decisions AMD could’ve made..

Radeon Fury would be AMD’s response to growing popularity of TITAN series. It is yet unclear how AMD is planning to adopt Fury naming schema. Are we going to see Fury XT or Fury PRO? Well, let’s just wait and see.

This rumor also means that Radeon R9 390X will be a direct rebrand of R9 290X with 8GB memory.

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@Coseniath: But there are already 8GB R9 290X's........

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@insane_metalist said:

@Coseniath: But there are already 8GB R9 290X's........

Yeap. And I saw some tempting ones costing only $350 at newegg.

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... I thought the 390x was a completely new architecture? It would make more sense that the 380x is a more powerful and efficient 290x.. Just like how the 280x was a more powerful and efficient 7970..

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@sSubZerOo said:

... I thought the 390x was a completely new architecture? It would make more sense that the 380x is a more powerful and efficient 290x.. Just like how the 280x was a more powerful and efficient 7970..

Well, 280X is just a between vanilla and GHz E. 7970 (clockwise).

Its not a different version.

What's different is R9 285 which is a Tonga based GPU. While the previous (R9 280 and 7950) are tahiti.

We are still waiting for a Full Tonga chip (R9 280X, 7970 replacement)...

The flagship will be named differently than R9 3xx.

Rumors talking about Radeon Fury.

In a couple weeks, we will know...

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@Coseniath said:
@sSubZerOo said:

... I thought the 390x was a completely new architecture? It would make more sense that the 380x is a more powerful and efficient 290x.. Just like how the 280x was a more powerful and efficient 7970..

Well, 280X is just a between vanilla and GHz E. 7970 (clockwise).

Its not a different version.

What's different is R9 285 which is a Tonga based GPU. While the previous (R9 280 and 7950) are tahiti.

We are still waiting for a Full Tonga chip (R9 280X, 7970 replacement)...

The flagship will be named differently than R9 3xx.

Rumors talking about Radeon Fury.

In a couple weeks, we will know...

That seems like a crazy 180 of basically everything we heard prior to this..

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@sSubZerOo said:

That seems like a crazy 180 of basically everything we heard prior to this..

I believe that they were planning from the begining to launch in smaller die (16nm or 20nm) but something went wrong (fabs should be blamed for this) and they just rebranding everything on 28nm.

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@Coseniath said:
@sSubZerOo said:

That seems like a crazy 180 of basically everything we heard prior to this..

I believe that they were planning from the begining to launch in smaller die (16nm or 20nm) but something went wrong (fabs should be blamed for this) and they just rebranding everything on 28nm.

This sounds like a horrible **** up.. Isn't the 390x suppose to be launching within a matter of weeks, and basically every piece of information found was basically saying it was going to be a new architecture competing with something like the 980 ti?

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@sSubZerOo said:

This sounds like a horrible **** up.. Isn't the 390x suppose to be launching within a matter of weeks, and basically every piece of information found was basically saying it was going to be a new architecture competing with something like the 980 ti?

Yes. 390X (probably Radeon Fury) will be launched mid June.

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@Coseniath said:
@insane_metalist said:

@Coseniath: But there are already 8GB R9 290X's........

Yeap. And I saw some tempting ones costing only $350 at newegg.

I saw a couple at that price, every few weeks usually. I usually check around because my friend wants to upgrade from his GTX 770.

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@insane_metalist said:

I saw a couple at that price, every few weeks usually. I usually check around because my friend wants to upgrade from his GTX 770.

Oh, if I had a GTX680/770, 7970/R9 280X, I would wait for 14nm/16nm. The reasons are obvious. Next year we might see the biggest leap in GPU performance since Voodoo1 to Voodoo2 and since 7800 to 8800...

edit: Well... unless companies decide to make even smaller chips as flagships. pe: GTX1080 = GP106, Titan II = GP104, Uranus = GP100... etc etc

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@Coseniath said:
@insane_metalist said:

I saw a couple at that price, every few weeks usually. I usually check around because my friend wants to upgrade from his GTX 770.

Oh, if I had a GTX680/770, 7970/R9 280X, I would wait for 14nm/16nm. The reasons are obvious. Next year we might see the biggest leap in GPU performance since Voodoo1 to Voodoo2 and since 7800 to 8800...

edit: Well... unless companies decide to make even smaller chips as flagships. pe: GTX1080 = GP106, Titan II = GP104, Uranus = GP100... etc etc

Lets hope not. And next generation nVidia will use HBM as well.

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@horgen said:

Lets hope not. And next generation nVidia will use HBM as well.

14nm/16nm + HBM + New architecture. I think we will see GPUs that will make my GTX970 a facebook gaming GPU. :P

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@Coseniath said:
@insane_metalist said:

I saw a couple at that price, every few weeks usually. I usually check around because my friend wants to upgrade from his GTX 770.

Oh, if I had a GTX680/770, 7970/R9 280X, I would wait for 14nm/16nm. The reasons are obvious. Next year we might see the biggest leap in GPU performance since Voodoo1 to Voodoo2 and since 7800 to 8800...

edit: Well... unless companies decide to make even smaller chips as flagships. pe: GTX1080 = GP106, Titan II = GP104, Uranus = GP100... etc etc

He's probably gonna wait it out. There was just a couple tempting deals.

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@Coseniath said:
@horgen said:

Lets hope not. And next generation nVidia will use HBM as well.

14nm/16nm + HBM + New architecture. I think we will see GPUs that will make my GTX970 a facebook gaming GPU. :P

I hope to see a big jump. If a GTX 970 is a 50% jump from GTX 680... I hope 1070 is 80%+ jump up from mine.

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@horgen said:

I hope to see a big jump. If a GTX 970 is a 50% jump from GTX 680... I hope 1070 is 80%+ jump up from mine.

Theoritically, architecture could give 60% performance (see GTX 670 vs GTX 970, although GTX 970 has more SMXs disabled than GTX670), 30%-40%(some say the minimum will be 40%) performance from the biggest die shrinking in GPU history (28nm to 16nm/14nm) and maybe a 10% from HBM (if a GPU doesn't need more bandwidth, HBM will not help at all...).

So, if things go well, I wouldn't be surpise if GTX1070 has triple performance of (200% more than) GTX680...

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@Coseniath said:
@horgen said:

I hope to see a big jump. If a GTX 970 is a 50% jump from GTX 680... I hope 1070 is 80%+ jump up from mine.

Theoritically, architecture could give 60% performance (see GTX 670 vs GTX 970, although GTX 970 has more SMXs disabled than GTX670), 30%-40%(some say the minimum will be 40%) performance from the biggest die shrinking in GPU history (28nm to 16nm/14nm) and maybe a 10% from HBM (if a GPU doesn't need more bandwidth, HBM will not help at all...).

So, if things go well, I wouldn't be surpise if GTX1070 has triple performance of (200% more than) GTX680...

I really hope that happens. Then I have a worthwhile upgrade from my GTX 680.

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Moar news-rumors:

Computex: AMD Fiji aka Fury X slower than GeForce GTX 980 Ti

Computex: AMD shows Fiji graphics behind closed doors

Am I the only one that sees the new GPU priced around $600 (like R9 290X original MSRP)?

ps: This is how it performs right now, they might just give some MHz just to surpass GTX980ti.

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@Coseniath said:

Moar news-rumors:

Computex: AMD Fiji aka Fury X slower than GeForce GTX 980 Ti

Computex: AMD shows Fiji graphics behind closed doors

Am I the only one that sees the new GPU priced around $600 (like R9 290X original MSRP)?

ps: This is how it performs right now, they might just give some MHz just to surpass GTX980ti.

4K.. I wonder if it will do better in 4K, unless VRAM is a problem.

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@horgen said:

4K.. I wonder if it will do better in 4K, unless VRAM is a problem.

vram will be an issue for multi monitor and 4k resolutions with 4gb. 980ti's 6gb will come into play, newer games at 4k are using beyond 4gb.

Dont matter how fast the memory bandwidth is with HBM, it will have to swap out data from system memory and harddrive creating jumps in frame rates.