Not That Anyone Cares

Zantesusken posted...

Juggernauts are near impossible for the average party. You are stupidly overleveled. You are barely supposed to have base level T2 weapons at that point, if even that. Don't complain that they're easy >.>

Well, they're near impossible unless you know exactly how to handle the fight. At which point they can be killed at sub-"normal" (no grinding) development levels, although you're likely to need a Phoenix Down or two.

Basically, equip fire resistance and physical damage resistance and use Snow (equip Paladin) leading Vanille and Sazh. Open with Premeditation so Sazh can Barfire the party and Vanille can stick a debuff. Any debuff. Then use Protection to stay alive while Sazh continues to buff until it uses Steam Clean. Get in a few rounds of Tri-disaster while it's doing nothing, and then repeat. You'll want Matador for sticking debuffs after Sazh applies all the buffs, Solidarity for staying alive while maintaining chain, and Aggression for once you stagger it. You need to stagger-cancel Steam Clean and launch it ASAP, and then keep it juggled.

The fight goes faster if you control Sazh (his Blitz is great against Juggernaut), but you run a much higher risk of dying to its double arm slam (which is the only dangerous attack after you get Barfire up). Snow with Mediguard/Steelguard will survive it no problem, but the others are likely to die if it hits them (thus the Phoenix Downs I mentioned).

t~

edit: oh, at super low development, you can beat the fight by replacing Sazh with Hope and adding Protect to your defenses, but this slows you down a ton and requires much more precise timing.

FF_MasterXXX posted...

With 3 tetradic tiara's at * equipped, Sazh's buffs only help in the process. Vanille's debuffs tack on really quick.

Tetradic Tiara doesn't last long enough to matter against Juggernaut at low development (plus, a low development game is highly unlikely to have a Tiara, let alone three), but I'm sure it's useful at higher levels.

t~

FF_MasterXXX posted...

Bituitus mission 7 drops tetradic tiara's so anyone who reaches chapter 11 should be able to beat him and get a few tiara's.

Ah, but we're not talking about people who explore everything here. We're talking about people who ignore the missions or who maybe do one or two at most.

And farming Tiaras can be time consuming and tedious, even for those who can handle Bituitus with ease. It's only a 5% drop rate, after all.

True, the tiara buffs don't hold long, but they help right off the bat. Sazh's buffs fast once hasted and can reinstate them rather quickly. Along with Vanilla's debuffs to Juggernaut, it's not as hard a fight as one would think.

Sazh can't replace the Tiara buffs at this stage, except Vigilance.

I don't think you're in a good position to evaluate the average player's experience. Juggernaut will kill an average party within 2-3 hits (unless they equip the right accessories--and no, the average player does not have Tiaras), and it can OHKO even a developed party with its double arm smash if they don't take measures against it.

t~