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zhoban

Feb 6, 2012 9:17 am GMT
Would I be fine with playing the remake or is it better to play the original? Also, that being said what is the leveling system like in this game?
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MutantJohn

Feb 6, 2012 10:00 am GMT
If you have the money and a DS, get it. If you don't, then don't. The leveling system goes, monsters that are dead = experience and each character gets and equal fraction of the total experience. Well, each character that's alive at the end of the battle, at least.
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zhoban

Feb 6, 2012 10:34 am GMT
MutantJohn posted...
If you have the money and a DS, get it. If you don't, then don't. The leveling system goes, monsters that are dead = experience and each character gets and equal fraction of the total experience. Well, each character that's alive at the end of the battle, at least.

Would I be better off just getting Final Fantasy Chronicles for the Playstation which has both Final Fantasy IV and Chrono Trigger?

I was wondering since I remember asking about the leveling system of Final Fantasy IX and I remember someone saying that depending on the equipment you had was how strong your characters got when you leveled up. So I didn't know if it was like a lot of RPG's where if you level up, everything levels with it or if it was like Final Fantasy IX or if it was like Final Fantasy II where you had Job Classes.
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RuneEsper

Feb 6, 2012 11:08 am GMT
If you really want to play both FFIV and Chrono Trigger, I would recommend getting them both on the DS if you can.

The PS versions have some unfortunate issues with lag; it takes forever (by which I mean a good 2-3 seconds) to do anything: open your menus, initiate combat, load a new area etc. This may not sound like much, but bear in mind you will be doing all of those things hundreds if not thousands of times; let's be generous and say 1,000 battles, 800 menu entries, and 200 zone changes. 2,000*3=6,000/60=60 MINUTES on average per game that you will have spent just waiting for the game to get its act together.

Besides that, there is the (highly disputed?) fact of FFIV on the DS being probably the best version of the game in existence. It really amped up the depth of the combat system in a lot of ways.

Chrono Trigger DS is pretty much identical to the SNES version with a handful of added dungeons, at least one of which I find so annoying that I have never finished it. Still amazing though.
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zhoban

Feb 6, 2012 11:12 am GMT
RuneEsper posted...
If you really want to play both FFIV and Chrono Trigger, I would recommend getting them both on the DS if you can.

The PS versions have some unfortunate issues with lag; it takes forever (by which I mean a good 2-3 seconds) to do anything: open your menus, initiate combat, load a new area etc. This may not sound like much, but bear in mind you will be doing all of those things hundreds if not thousands of times; let's be generous and say 1,000 battles, 800 menu entries, and 200 zone changes. 2,000*3=6,000/60=60 MINUTES on average per game that you will have spent just waiting for the game to get its act together.

Besides that, there is the (highly disputed?) fact of FFIV on the DS being probably the best version of the game in existence. It really amped up the depth of the combat system in a lot of ways.

Chrono Trigger DS is pretty much identical to the SNES version with a handful of added dungeons, at least one of which I find so annoying that I have never finished it. Still amazing though.

Okay, thanks. Like I mentioned earlier, what is the leveling system like? Is it the Job Class system like in Final Fantasy II, the Final Fantasy IX way where depending on what you had equipped plays into how your stats increased or is it like a lot of RPG's where when you level up every stat is boosted no matter what kind of weapons/ equipment you had on?
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MutantJohn

Feb 6, 2012 11:33 am GMT
It's like 7. You gain levels, stat gains are set. Equipment doesn't affect the characters' stats in any permanent way. Also, no job switching as in, Cecil will never stop being a Dark Knight by the players choice. Rosa will always be a White Mage. Kain will always be a Dragoon.

There's a NG+ feature in this where you carry over ultimate equipment and abilities. Summons as well.
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zhoban

Feb 6, 2012 11:43 am GMT
MutantJohn posted...
It's like 7. You gain levels, stat gains are set. Equipment doesn't affect the characters' stats in any permanent way. Also, no job switching as in, Cecil will never stop being a Dark Knight by the players choice. Rosa will always be a White Mage. Kain will always be a Dragoon.

There's a NG+ feature in this where you carry over ultimate equipment and abilities. Summons as well.

How do you learn spells? Do you find them? Also, what is the battling system like meaning is it the ATB style fighting of Final Fantasy VII or the wait for you to do something like in Final Fantasy X?

Can you do a New Game+ as many times as you want or do they eventually stop?
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EnvoyOfDeath

Feb 6, 2012 1:21 pm GMT
In this game your characters gain spells by Leveling up. There are special items called Augments which teach abilities to your characters Permanently..
The Battle System is ATB (Active Time Battle) which gives you a good adrenaline rush if you set it up to Max and fight Bosses.

The New Game + is limited to three (3) times making each one somewhat unique.
zhoban

Feb 7, 2012 10:21 am GMT
EnvoyOfDeath posted...
In this game your characters gain spells by Leveling up. There are special items called Augments which teach abilities to your characters Permanently..
The Battle System is ATB (Active Time Battle) which gives you a good adrenaline rush if you set it up to Max and fight Bosses.

The New Game + is limited to three (3) times making each one somewhat unique.

Thank you very much.

What did they do with the New Game+? Is it like Parasite Eve where you fight a completely new end boss or does it just become easier because of your equipment?
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Don't get all holy on me, James. This town called you, too. You and me are the same. We're not like other people. Eddie Dombrowski (Silent Hill 2)
MutantJohn

Feb 7, 2012 12:04 pm GMT
If you don't do some f***ing reading on your own, so help me God, I will track your ip address and beat you senseless with my copy of the game.
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"Is this city just a broth of thieves gone sour like milk rotting between your teeth?" - Why?
EnvoyOfDeath

Feb 7, 2012 1:27 pm GMT
New Game+ has some good reasons but ppl have replayed the Original many times without this option. This game is that Great!
Two New Super Bosses are ADDED to the Second and Third Playthroughs (with no changes in either playthroughs). Both of them provide a good challenge.

Also, the Augments gotten on the first playthrough (with the exception of a few one time-only augments) can be recollected (without giving temporary characters new ones that were already given). These three playthroughs of Augments can be used to Boost your characters to take on these two New Super Bosses.

PS: My English sucks =P
Splatterhouse5

Feb 8, 2012 9:32 pm GMT
The Final Fantasy IV included on Chronicles is just as fast as the SNES version once you get the game started. There aren't additional loading times for the menus and battles like with the PS1 ports of FF5 / FF6 / Chrono Trigger, just for initially booting the game and for saving to and loading from the memory card.

As for which of the seven version of FF4 to play, it depends somewhat on what you want from the game.

* If you want to play FF4 in English with its original graphics and mechanics, play the U.S. PS1 version.

* If you want to play FF4 after TOSE gave it a twice-over, replacing the graphics with new 2D ones and changing some game mechanics, play the PSP version.

* If you want to play FF4 with all the graphics redone in polygons and with major revisions to the game mechanics, play the DS version.
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