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E3 2011: The Aftermath

By: Staff, GameSpot - Posted on Jun 22, 2011

GameSpot's first in a series of short videos takes a look at the battle between Battlefield 3 and Modern Warfare 3.

E3 Aftermath

We're closing out our coverage of E3 2011 with a series of brief video features that examine some big, post-E3 topics that are all on our minds. For our first video, we're taking a look at Battlefield 3 and Modern Warfare 3. More specifically, we look at their respective E3 presentations and how both games plan to compete for your money and time.

1397 Comments

  • Edged_out

    Posted Jul 22, 2011 6:03 pm GMT

    @twztid13 lifes to short to be getting respawn outside the action all the time, plus i never die alot in COD, my kill death is 2.87 so not a problem for me

  • Edged_out

    Posted Jul 22, 2011 5:59 pm GMT

    @abentwookie i played counterstrike too death and loved it, whats that got to do with COD ?

  • Snaptrap

    Posted Jul 11, 2011 1:45 pm GMT

    My 3DS is collecting dust. I may need to look to this as an alternative.

  • shadowhunter0

    Posted Jul 8, 2011 10:09 pm GMT

    @pinicolaroxa how is it selling old games again sure some of the games will be similar and have the same name but they aren't the same game for example lbp and mnr aren't the same on psp and ps3 I know I have both and on either of them I haven't seen the same lvl/race on both systems and uncharted isn't a remake of a uncharted game on the ps3 also there will be brand new ips coming out on it as well and I was talking about the games that I already have on my psp go will be playable on the vita

  • Spartan765

    Posted Jul 8, 2011 1:47 am GMT

    I hope they have better games than the 3000 most of the games in 3000 are less varied and not that much fun like games DS2 or UNC or FM COD And the U GA could be a huge hit for it

  • dalua360

    Posted Jul 6, 2011 8:00 am GMT

    @crabcola exactly! Thanks!

  • sonicdeathx

    Posted Jul 5, 2011 8:13 pm GMT

    The Wii U should have something similar to the 360 achievements and PS3 trophies. Something like Super Smash Bros. Brawl had with the challenges.

  • Serious

    Posted Jul 5, 2011 4:05 pm GMT

    The Vita does need some innovative games. Now that they have touch screens they should add an art program. and with the cameras a photoshop vita. snap photos and change them in the vita then use wifi or usb to download to your printer. a kindle app would also be a good idea.

  • Sgthombre

    Posted Jul 5, 2011 2:59 pm GMT

    @killa3
    Um... yes it is! How else did I arrive to that statement? That comment was mainly directed AT the Gamespot staff, and by extension the other critics and writers who have made very similar comments. That's the thought I was having when I wrote that original comment, and that's still my thought now.

  • killa32130

    Posted Jul 4, 2011 5:10 pm GMT

    @Sgthombre

    "Stupid name Also, how is \\$250 a great price for the Playstation Vita, but too expensive for the 3DS?" This is what i replied to, your "main point" had nothing to do with Gamespot G4 ect past opinions for handhelds ect

  • Sgthombre

    Posted Jul 4, 2011 2:33 pm GMT

    @killa32130 See comment below.

  • Sgthombre

    Posted Jul 4, 2011 2:32 pm GMT

    @EdibleFood Look, my main point is that I get a little annoyed when the people say one thing and then turn around and contradict themselves. Good tech or not, it's a handheld, a lot of the staffers at Gamespot, G4, IGN, ALL of um said that people would not be willing to pay \$250 for a handheld, and now all of um are turning 180 Degrees and saying that it's a great price.

  • crabcola

    Posted Jul 4, 2011 9:11 am GMT

    @dalua360
    That is a very clear and logical explanation of your feelings toward the games, and I applaud you for that. It is a shame that the masses are unable to view things through objective eyes such as yours. You can enjoy both titles for completely different reasons as they are completely different builds of game.

  • devastion913

    Posted Jul 2, 2011 12:35 pm GMT

    @grim0187
    Did you change your picture? It looks different for some reason.

  • grim0187

    Posted Jul 2, 2011 6:20 am GMT

    @McBoogerballz

    Regardless, I posted links to where I got information. Your saying you read an article somwhere. Show it! You saw something on Amazon, show it! How many people honestly still play there PSP? Just go into gamestop and look at the psp section, its the same games from 3 years ago!

  • kaijukrash

    Posted Jul 2, 2011 2:38 am GMT

    @Stealthyninja81
    Agreed.
    Cool is cool. scripted or on the fly. I prefer on the fly myself but again I do agree. But It does speak of it's lasting appeal though. Which for me just wasn't really there.

  • kaijukrash

    Posted Jul 2, 2011 2:36 am GMT

    @Blayzino I've always felt that the strength of CoD's multi-player maps was that they had a quality that herded players in to each other making for some immediate frenetic fights. However I found that over time the staying power just wasn't there. The matches simply began to become repetitive rather quickly. Instead of being challenged by other players abilities to use the environments and gear creatively it became more about developing a map memory and sticking to the same routes, limited tactics, and safest spots. And as you stated the single route quality many of them had worked against it making maps very easy to figure out. Ultimately a few hrs in I felt I got a good grasp of every method of play available. After that I was never surprised by my opponents. Not because they were bad players but because the game only allowed for so much creative combat.
    I did have plenty of fun with MW1 both single and multi but once I learned the map the rest was just getting a handle on my weapons of choice. I really found myself wanting more.
    I totally agree with you that fans do deserve their money's worth not just a few extra bells and whistles but some progressive additions to how the game is played. I don't think it's fair to us for a popular title to remain so vastly unchanged at its core that two games in the series are virtually indistinguishable from each other.

  • McBoogerballz

    Posted Jul 1, 2011 7:23 pm GMT

    @grim0187 lol.. freaking ignorance is a bliss, isn't it? What a waste of time to even reply your botchery. You post a forum thread here to try to prove a point, and all the links from that thread are from tweeters and facebook... Where is the authority or credibility of your claim. The funniest part is, you are asking where did I get my information? Hey, kid, let me ask you where do you get your information? You don't need to simply count on amazon, although it is one of the largest retail stores in America, you can count on Gamestop too, can't you? When we talk about Japanese sale, you can count on gamespot's recent article, can't you? When you want to know Asian sales you can count on tgbus and importbay, can't you? I have far more reliable sources to count on that your stupid links. Kid, what are you? 12year old nintendo fanboy try to deny logic?

  • fubbal

    Posted Jul 1, 2011 4:07 pm GMT

    man I said it before the wii even came out.Once the casual crowd got tired of it they were gonna be in trouble with that thing.

    because it pretty much was just a gimmick.Other than maybe a few titles like super mario galaxy 1 and 2 and metroid prime 3 and ya a few others but really what was there for the real gamers?

    They had all this 3rd party support and it felt like the N 64 all over again.

    I remember having too wait months for a game sometimes on my 64.

    but I still give nintendo there credit, they are by far the leading innovators in gaming and have ben since the nes.

    they have took gaming to new and better hieghts

    and mark my words all this tec will eventually be a standard thing.

    and as far as nintendo goes so long as they keep bringin out great mario,zelda,metroid and other games like that we all know where gonna buy it just too play those games!

    but I agree I think they are moving a little fast with all this tec because I have some great ideas for the wii mote and im just stunned that someone hasnt used them yet cause they are very simple but I bet it would be actually fun.

  • grim0187

    Posted Jul 1, 2011 3:37 pm GMT

    @McBoogerballz http://www.3dsbuzz.com/3ds-sales-outshine-psps-in-japan/ Thats the 3DS killin the PSP in Japan. Also you realize the PSP is 6 years old. It JUST now reached that number? Halo 3 outsold that in its first WEEK. That is ABYSMALLY low sales for a system. http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/npd--xbox-360-still-best-selli/1211088'

    I dont know where you get your info (amazon, yeah...ok) but Xbox 360 is currently the best console of this year. So next time YOU go into argument, get some links to back up your claims. k thanks, bye.

  • pokemonblackftw

    Posted Jul 1, 2011 7:26 am GMT

    nintendo could have just gone with regular controller and had a much lower price or better hardware. more power>expensive new controllers

  • pokemonblackftw

    Posted Jul 1, 2011 7:23 am GMT

    battlefield and cod both play completely different. i dont like how people compare them so much there both great.

  • raduz123

    Posted Jul 1, 2011 4:10 am GMT

    I commented a couple days ago about the wii u and how they should have designed the wii controller like the bottom half of the 3DS actually I have changed my mind, why the hell do they not just allow the use of the 3DS as a controller in general. This would be great for a few reasons.

    1. It would encourage sales of both their consoles
    2. It would finally make cross platform gaming a mainstream feature
    3. The Wii motion controls are already abundant and could still be used without having to splash out potentially hundreds of mullah on a new 'super' controller.
    4. Ninty would have more money to invest in making the actual console a beast, unbeatable graphics, amazing online content and finally some brilliant third party support.

    The PS Vita looks incredible and already offers most of the things in the list. So why should I shell out hundreds of quid on a brand new console when I could pick up a PS3 for as little as 130? Nintendo are going to have to do something special to win me over. But I am always optimistic!

  • killa32130

    Posted Jul 1, 2011 12:21 am GMT

    @Sgthombre You asked why people THINK the price of the 3DS is too much compared to the vita. Graphics do play a factor because that shows how much More or Less power it has. More power = more money, less power = less money, its like buying graphics cards. Ps3 was totally over-priced when it came out, notice how they're the same price now? I think you meant Graphics don't make great games which is true. But the truth is from an obvious stand point, the Vita is using current technology then the 3DS. I'm not even buying these system, you asked a question and i answered.

  • McBoogerballz

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 6:48 pm GMT

    @grim0187 lol.."? PSP sales reaches 7million this APril, someone with a proper brain can tell you that something that sells 7 million is hardly a failure. "Sony left the PSP to die and it DID die." I doubt you even remotely know what you are saying.. PSP games are selling, PSP systems are still selling, what more evidences do you want to know? go google "PSP NA sales"~ PSP sells better than 3DS and DS combine this month in Japan, and China~According to Amazon PSP is the second best selling console this year behind PS3.... So it died hm? Next time when you are trying to make an argument, make sure that you actually know the argument?

  • pinicolaroxa

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 6:44 pm GMT

    A lot of people here pretends to know how much it cost to make a console.
    I guess sony strategy of selling at loss its working and people believe that they are making a great deal just because sony cant make money out of their consoles.

  • stealthyninja81

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 6:30 pm GMT

    @kaijukrash
    Cod draws upon putting you in a situation and getting you out in an amazing, scripted way, although this doesnt always make it better than having a choice its pretty cool when you do something awsome even if it is scripted and not in you control

  • pinicolaroxa

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 6:29 pm GMT

    Psp didnt failed, it only sold 100 million less then its only rival

  • grim0187

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 6:27 pm GMT

    @McBoogerballz Umm, it failed in alot of ways. For one, its sales were abysmall, which is part of the reason it hardly had any software at all. For two, the design of it with ONE analog stick was moronic to say the least. Sony left the PSP to die and it DID die. The only people who still use a PSP are hackers who use it to play old SNES games. That is failure in every sense of the word and the Vita is doomed to follow the same path unless Sony gets strong 3rd party support and good software suited to the Vita's needs.

  • McBoogerballz

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 6:22 pm GMT

    @grim0187 PSP failed? in what sense...? Get your clues right before you just randomly spit things out of your $@!

  • grim0187

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 5:33 pm GMT

    I said this once before, the main thing that will determine the Vita's success is its software. It needs to have software designed SPECIFICALLY for it, or it WILL fail like the PSP. Sony doesnt support its handhelds like Nintendo. Thumbs down me all you want, but its the truth.

  • EdibleFood

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 5:13 pm GMT

    @Sgthombre
    And yes the hardware does make the price, they have to make money so they cant just sell stuff for 100, you are getting a lot more with the vita and people are surprised that they are able to deliver console quality visuals for a 250 dollar handheld while the 3ds (not a fanboy, i love my 3ds) only delivers gamecube/wii visuals.
    Nintendo is always behind in terms of hardware, the Wii U is not a significant improvement over modern consoles and when sony and microsoft announce their new systems that will be more powerful than the wii u developers will likely shift from the wii u and the current gen systems over to the newer consoles.

    And another thing, the 3ds launched with no games while they have already shown a good amount of Vita games that are presumably launch titles.

  • EdibleFood

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 5:08 pm GMT

    @Sgthombre
    Because the technology inside the vita is lightyears beyond the tech in the 3ds. Same reason why the wii costs less than the other consoles, its components are extremely cheap so they can afford to sell it for less. 250 Dollars is fine for a system that is more advanced in every way. Think of it like sony launching the ps3 for \$250 dollars like the wii

    I am more optimistic for the vita this time around, the main reason why emulating console games on the psp didn't work was the of the second analog stick, and less powerful hardware. Wipeout 2048 looks ridiculously awesome

  • Blayzino

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 5:06 pm GMT

    @kaijukrash
    I agree in the sense that the Call Of Duty franchise needs to have more open spaces, maybe try something a little different like 3 or 4 different routes that end up at the same place instead of just changing the scenery and the story but still having those one track narrow pathway stages. With CoD I get a sense of forced playing like you have to get in this tank and shoot these guys and you hafta go down this path etc. Whereas in a majority of Battlefield you're given the choice of using vehicles or sneaking round the back way ect... Now in saying this I dont HATE CoD I jus feel like its fans deserve a little variety... I jusr feel they arent getting their moneys worth.

  • kaijukrash

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 4:47 pm GMT

    Look I'll never knock anyone for their choice of system or games. There are plenty of B games that I really enjoy which are almost universally disliked. So to each his/her own and we'll leave it at that.
    But honestly I genuinely don't get why anyone would choose CoD over BF. There's just so much more in BF. So many ways to play, so many ways to end your opponents, so many tactics to formulate due to squad play. I'm not saying CoD is a B game but I've always just found it very limited especially when compared to BF. Ultimately it's the strategic elements and on-the-fly diversity that drew me in.
    There was just no greater gaming thrill for me than the shake of the c4 detonation downstairs, hearing the building groan as it threatens to topple, and using those precious last few seconds to put a 40mm through the back wall and make a desperate run to jump out the improvised exit just in time to hit the ground and empty half a clip in to that smug sniper's brain-pan. Just about every time I play it requires me to think on my feet like that and I'm just a junkie for it now. I've asked this before and never really gotten a straight answer
    But honestly, CoD fans what is it that keeps you in the CoD camp?
    Please no fan-boy bullsh!t mud-slinging. I'm really asking.

  • Sgthombre

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 4:40 pm GMT

    @killa32130
    Graphics don't make a price point. The PS3 and Xbox 360 had pretty much the same graphics yet they launched with a \$200 price difference. The fact of the matter is these are the same people who said that consumers wouldn't pay \$250 for a handheld, and now they're saying it's a great price.

  • killa32130

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 4:18 pm GMT

    @Sgthombre

    From a technical stand point the Vita is much more advanced, all you have to do is look at the graphics compared to the 3DS. You also have the ability to play with ps3 users ect. At the most the 3ds should be \$200.

  • Sgthombre

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 3:44 pm GMT

    Also, how is \$250 a great price for the Playstation Vita, but too expensive for the 3DS?

  • Sgthombre

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 3:41 pm GMT

    Stupid name.

  • MEDzZ3RO

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 3:13 pm GMT

    @davidoats2
    It "sucks ass" from the point or review of PSP users but I have to say, UMDs don't work. Their case is flimsy and easily broken, a replacement was needed. In any case as sad as it is the PSP never received many top tier games other then God Of War, GTA, Monster Hunter and Metal Gear Solid. The Vita looks far more promising already.

  • Kenji_Masamune

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 2:55 pm GMT

    well in terms of blockbuster sales I don't think it will reach the levels of the nintendo handhelds unless they create something as successful as pokemon.

  • GotTheDeets

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 2:44 pm GMT

    Anybody know which game is being shown from about 3:23 to 3:30?

  • davidoats2

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 2:41 pm GMT

    Its nice and all, but I rather just buy a playstation 3. I don't think the PS Vita uses UMDs which sucks ass.

  • Bog101

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 2:10 pm GMT

    I dont think its competing with the 3ds. Its competing with smartphones like the iphone, thunderbolt, and droid.

  • blackout615

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 1:30 pm GMT

    @pataponplayer patapon is is for reatrds. dont call final fantasy or any game retarded just cause your bad at it :/

  • Vexx88

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 1:10 pm GMT

    A) It's not download only
    B) They confirmed that downloadable PSP titles are backwards compatible with it.

  • arabianboss1999

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 12:40 pm GMT

    my problem with it is the analog sticks.(pretty sure it has them) i think it will be a bit awkward putting it in say a jeans pocket where its kind of tight. some people will probably break the analog sticks

  • bigbeebis

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 12:27 pm GMT

    All this small mans big talk. Looking so serious, saying things ones do not even understand, but it's just a gaming console for crying out loud. P.S. Whoever said that Final Fantasy is for retards, thank you, now I finally know what I really am.

  • pinicolaroxa

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 11:13 am GMT

    @shadowhunter0

    This is not backward compatible, this is selling old games again.

  • MkFilipe

    Posted Jun 30, 2011 10:59 am GMT

    @psycho325 it is not download only. you can download it or buy the media afaik. It has two slots, one for your mem card and another for the the media

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