We put our MSI Radeon HD 4870 up against the GeForce 9800 GTX, the Radeon HD 3870 X2, and an overclocked EVGA e-GeForce 9800 GTX that matches the specs of Nvidia's new GeForce 9800 GTX+ for the single-GPU tests. The GTX+ has the same number of processing cores as the standard GTX, but comes with a 738 MHz core clock and 1.836 GHz processor clocks compared to the GTX's 675 MHz core and 1.69 GHz for the processors. According to Nvidia, the GeForce 9800 GTX+ will be available on July 16 for around $229, which should put it somewhere between the 4870 and the 4850. We broke out the GeForce 8800 GT and the single-GPU Radeon HD 3870 to go up against our Sapphire Radeon HD 4850. Then wedoubled up the cards and tossed in a GeForce GTX 280 for the dual-card CrossFire and SLI comparisons

Radeon HD 4850 & 4870 Single-GPU Performance

(Longer bars indicate better performance)

3DMark06, 2048x1536, 4xAA/8xAF

Radeon HD 4870
7435
GeForce 9800 GTX+
7021
GeForce 9800 GTX
6678
Radeon HD 4850
6118
GeForce 8800 GT
5871
Radeon HD 3870
4295

Crysis, High Quality, 1600x1200

Radeon HD 4870
32
GeForce 9800 GTX+
30
GeForce 9800 GTX
29
Radeon HD 4850
26
GeForce 8800 GT
25
Radeon HD 3870
20

Team Fortress 2, High Quality, 2048x1536, 4xAA/8xAF

Radeon HD 4870
95
GeForce 9800 GTX+
76
GeForce 9800 GTX
72
Radeon HD 4850
73
GeForce 8800 GT
62
Radeon HD 3870
42

Call of Duty 4, High Quality (Low Water Quality), 1600x1200, 4xAA

Radeon HD 4870
48
GeForce 9800 GTX+
53
GeForce 9800 GTX
50
Radeon HD 4850
35
GeForce 8800 GT
42
Radeon HD 3870
28

Radeon HD 4850 & 4870 Dual-GPU Performance

(Longer bars indicate better performance)

3DMark06, 2048x1536, 4xAA/8xAF

Geforce GTX 280
9601
Radeon HD 4870 CrossFire
14507
GeForce 9800 GTX+ SLI
11396
Radeon HD 4850 CrossFire
12313
GeForce 8800 GT SLI
10123
Radeon HD 3870X2
9507

Crysis, High Quality, 1600x1200

Geforce GTX 280
40
Radeon HD 4870 CrossFire
39
GeForce 9800 GTX+ SLI
29
Radeon HD 4850 CrossFire
36
GeForce 8800 GT SLI
29
Radeon HD 3870X2
30

Team Fortress 2, High Quality, 2048x1536, 4xAA/8xAF

Geforce GTX 280
123
Radeon HD 4870 CrossFire
160
GeForce 9800 GTX+ SLI
93
Radeon HD 4850 CrossFire
127
GeForce 8800 GT SLI
83
Radeon HD 3870X2
76

Call of Duty 4, High Quality (Low Water Quality), 1600x1200, 4xAA

Geforce GTX 280
71
Radeon HD 4870 CrossFire
72
GeForce 9800 GTX+ SLI
95
Radeon HD 4850 CrossFire
66
GeForce 8800 GT SLI
83
Radeon HD 3870X2
46
System Setup: Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9775, Intel D5400XS, 4GB FB-DIMM (2x2GB), Windows Vista SP1, 750GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA Hard Disk Drive. Graphics Cards: GeForce GTX 280 1GB, EVGA e-GeForce 9800 GTX KO 512MB (Overclocked to GTX+ speeds), GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB, GeForce 8800 GT 512MB, Radeon HD 4870 512MB, Radeon HD 4850 512MB, Radeon HD 3870X2 1GB, Radeon HD 3870 512MB. Graphics Drivers: ATI Catalyst 8.6, beta ATI Catalyst series 5, Nvidia ForceWare beta 177.39, beta Nvidia Forceware 175.19.

The Radeon HD 4870 leads the pack in most of the single-GPU tests and shows decent scaling in CrossFire mode. The Radeon HD 4850 is a huge improvement over the Radeon HD 3870, but it looks like the GeForce 9800 GTX+ will be strong competition if Nvidia can keep prices below $229. The Call of Duty 4 performance is a concern, but we've found that map and demo selection can skew performance significantly in Call of Duty 4. We get rid of demos entirely in Call of Duty 4 and hand-drive our player through the Bog level while benchmarking on Fraps. We used the "Assault" demo for Crysis and a homemade demo for Team Fortress 2.

Nvidia isn't alone in advancing general processing on the GPU. ATI has also made progress with its own GPGPU initiative. As with Nvidia's CUDA, most of ATI's software support has been in specialized life science, financial, and oil and gas exploration applications, but there are consumer applications on the way. ATI has of course been accelerating Folding@Home for a couple of years now, but we'll soon see GPU-accelerated image-manipulation support from Adobe, and Cyberlink demonstrated GPU transcoding acceleration for its upcoming Power Director 7 application at a recent Radeon 4800 series media event in San Francisco. ATI has also partnered with Havok to work on supporting GPU physics acceleration in games.

It looks like we can slide the ATI Radeon HD 4870 right into the best card available slot at the $300 mark. Its closest competition might just be two GeForce 8800 GT or two Radeon HD 3870 cards paired up in their respective SLI or CrossFire modes. The Radeon HD 4850 also looks like a compelling choice at the $200 price point. It beats out the GeForce 8800 GT, but the GeForce 9800 GTX+ will be formidable competition when it comes out in July. Nevertheless the Radeon HD 4850 remains a great choice for price-conscious gamers looking for the latest in PC graphics at a reasonable price.

440 Comments

  • r08_m

    Posted Apr 1, 2009 4:05 pm PT

    ati throws too many numbers at you with these card models.........same with nvidia....cant keep track of whats what?

  • nitsud_19

    Posted Mar 26, 2009 6:03 pm PT

    Just got my ATI 4870 and just waiting to light it up.

  • WOWIcucicu

    Posted Mar 8, 2009 12:51 pm PT

    i am going to get a ATI 4850

  • WOWIcucicu

    Posted Jan 4, 2009 7:05 pm PT

    LOVE tech center

  • Zallomallo

    Posted Dec 6, 2008 10:58 am PT

    Laptops can't get new GPUs.

  • element_boy55

    Posted Nov 26, 2008 2:43 am PT

    im thinking of getting a new graphics card. i have a laptop (dell inspiron 1525) and i want my games to run faster with less lag, whats the best thing to do about that? more memory?

  • Jmaster3265

    Posted Nov 21, 2008 8:32 pm PT

    I wish they would show screenshots of how games actually looked on this card. That would be helpful and nice...

  • AOldDog

    Posted Nov 19, 2008 3:30 am PT

    I previously [9 years ago] had a AMD and nVidia home solution and it burst into flames just before my eyes.

  • AOldDog

    Posted Nov 19, 2008 3:16 am PT

    First of all when comparing this 2 great houses one has to look at the temperature of their products. The best home solution ever is a Intel processor with a Ati video card. Trust me !

  • AOldDog

    Posted Nov 19, 2008 3:12 am PT

    ATI ROOOOOCKS !!!!!!

  • AOldDog

    Posted Nov 19, 2008 3:11 am PT

    To toomey45: You just sad a stupid thing dude. It is impossible, u probably have a socket problem.

  • toomey45

    Posted Nov 1, 2008 4:47 am PT

    the ATI video cards don't work on my computer... have to stick to NVidia

  • Draker696

    Posted Sep 5, 2008 10:09 am PT

    Gonna buy a HD 4870 for sure.
    I really hope they reduce the price for graphics cards these days, some cost almost like the whole pc lol

  • TK-422

    Posted Aug 18, 2008 5:31 pm PT

    I Have no Loyalty to either ATI or Nvidia, Its whoever has the best product for the best price, Last year it was Nvidia, this year its ATI.

  • lucebuce

    Posted Aug 8, 2008 10:47 pm PT

    look bottomline ,

    no1 knows why , but some ATI Cards have compatibility issues , but still they're prices are really low ... Nvidia however does not have these issues but still they increase the prices

  • silverbullet198

    Posted Aug 2, 2008 1:27 am PT

    ive got mine, runs at 78 degrees max lol which is mid range temp acording to the meter on the driver. Fantastic card i mite add, dont belvie all the benchmark tests because im sure it must out performe more then what its shown above.

  • jjj13

    Posted Jul 27, 2008 1:07 pm PT

    Mine runs slightly better that some of those benchies. It runs at 84 degrees under load. hishest was 90 o.O.

  • samftrmd

    Posted Jul 26, 2008 2:41 am PT

    Very hot. Really.

  • mrhuntin

    Posted Jul 23, 2008 8:45 am PT

    i really need this my computer sucks,it can't play Crysis and gears of war on one computer.

  • strider_ATI

    Posted Jul 20, 2008 7:53 am PT

    A few years ago i hated ATI and though that their products were a piece of junk!!!
    I though that Nvidia were the best there is and that they cannot be challenged!!
    WHAT A FOOL I WAS !!!!!! After seing the ATI raedon HD 4870 I completly changed my mind. Now I think that Nvidia are a bunch of robbers who like to steel people's money ! I've become an ATI fan now!!!

    And by the way I support "Scope-Eye51" on everything he has said.

  • Ionizer23 posted Jul 19, 2008 6:18 am PT (does not meet display criteria. login to show)

    Ionizer23

    Posted Jul 19, 2008 6:18 am PT (hide)

    I still think Nvidia's better.

  • xophaser

    Posted Jul 14, 2008 10:20 pm PT

    Thanks ATI, Nvidia is now going to slash the prices of the gtx 200s by 10-25%. A gamers dream discount.

  • jsm144

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 11:20 pm PT

    ATI is doing alot better then I thought. Though I think i'll just still with my set up (8800gt sli), after all I'm not running anything at high resolutions. When the gtx 280/260 drop in price i'll probably get a pair of those.

  • supergamer918

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 1:52 pm PT

    Wow, the ATI Radeon 4870 totally every other card in all the benchmarks.

  • hitomo

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 4:43 am PT

    "Yes, GTX 280 is the king, but HD 4870 have 80~90% performance with only 46% of GTX 280’s price. Which is smarter choice?"

    wow, look at the 4850 crossfire performence ! ... here in EU the HD4870 cost 200euro... really

    greats

  • humbikmeamyou

    Posted Jul 9, 2008 11:53 pm PT

    I think for the most part from what I remember in the alst 10 years ATI has provided better price to poerformance then nidia, and even though ATI cards started to see some slow down compared to Nvidia, one has to realise that Nvidia cards cost much more FOR THE MOST PART, however I feel Nvidia was going the right direction with the 8800gt, trying to make something really good and keep it cost effective, unlike the ultra, but here we see ATI releas a card for 300 that compared to $500 cards, that inpressive and very respectful.

  • Scope-Eye51

    Posted Jul 9, 2008 9:03 am PT

    I just got my visiontek 4870 yesterday omg its F**king fast as hell it runs quiet and fast thats all I have to say.

  • TK-422

    Posted Jul 8, 2008 11:27 pm PT

    The Nvidia GTX280 is a bit faster than 4870, but not 200 bucks worth. My next card is definitely ATI, Nvidia failed with their crap drivers that they made for their 8800GT.

  • jetbruceli posted Jul 8, 2008 6:50 pm PT (does not meet display criteria. login to show)

    jetbruceli

    Posted Jul 8, 2008 6:50 pm PT (hide)

    I dont see how people are saying ATI won? I think if you want to buy enough ATI cards to beat one Nvidia then go for it but games like World In Conflict only support single card. So Nvidia still wins with the most powerful GPU on the market. Nvidia knows what they are doing. It's the reason most games has The Way It's Meant To Be Played" On the them. In fact, I baught Gears Of Wat for PC and Nvidia is on it. And I thought the Xbox 360 had an ATI card?

  • humbikmeamyou

    Posted Jul 7, 2008 1:21 am PT

    Finallllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ATI has done it, Well done, I was waiting for so long for ATI to shut Nvidia down, however I have a 8800gt and the only reason is at the time ATI had nothing to go up against the power to price to performance of 8800gt, now if only AMD can match the power of the q9450 and 9550 which iam running Ha ha, that will be the day.

  • Scope-Eye51

    Posted Jul 5, 2008 9:55 pm PT

    sryiownsomuch I just have to say a few words the table has turn,it's nvidia who is on the defensive ATi will wait on till what can nvidia has to offer to their blind customers.

  • kingofqueen

    Posted Jul 5, 2008 8:46 pm PT

    this ATi is so cheap,nice performance,maybe not shocking nice but reasonable

  • sryiownsomuch

    Posted Jul 5, 2008 6:36 pm PT

    OK...g3n3r41xan..
    you say "first of all these cards beat any nvidia card in terms of price/performance ratio."
    earlier, i said, "The 4870 and 4850 are VERY good cards, especially for the price.
    NVIDIA still has the slightest edge, if any, with the 280. But, that performance difference is hardly worth hundreds of dollars to get it over the 4870."
    we're on the same page.
    you say, "secondly before these cards were out i was with nvidia all the way and i was willing to buy a mid range nvidia card, but 4870 changed my mind."
    I said, "“Basically, if you absolutely have to rush out to buy a card this instant, get the 4870/4850.”
    we're on the same page.
    One product line does not constitute a better company. Scope-Eye51 needs to keep that in mind as well.
    as I have also said, scope, “wait out the next 6 months or so to watch performance and prices from NVIDIA change accordingly. This heavy competition will naturally keep prices reasonable and the performance will get exponentially better from both companies."
    So yes, I like ati, for the reason that they keep a market in balance.
    thank you.

  • Nova_Mongoose

    Posted Jul 4, 2008 8:27 pm PT

    will get the 4870 ASAP

  • Scope-Eye51

    Posted Jul 4, 2008 6:38 pm PT

    javierkatana so what were you saying that nvidia wasn't aiming ATi take a good look over Neweggs, nvidia they drop there price but not by much HAHAHA!!! They are panicking.

  • Killfox

    Posted Jul 3, 2008 7:30 pm PT

    Kojinto you have no idea what you are talking about. Here ill give you reviews that prove the 4870 is better than the GTX260 and even sometimes better than the GTX280. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964.html
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4870-review--asus/15
    http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=23
    http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/powercolor_hd4870/15.htm

    You also fail when it comes to physx - http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-physx-ati,5764.html. Yeah thats it running on ATI cards.

  • Cobacel

    Posted Jul 3, 2008 1:56 pm PT

    Nvidia = lots of frames but poor quality while ATI =good fps but very good quality nvidia= buy one it alsts 16 months , ati =buy 1 it can still play games in 2 years mine did and at a good quality nvidia = expensive crap ati = cheap but worht every dollar ... ofcourse nvidia= drivers ati = suck at drivers but from these card spec id say ATI is winning the geforce 280 get xxxxxxxxxx xxxxx xxxxxxxx

  • Games_pro

    Posted Jul 3, 2008 10:53 am PT

    I'm glad to see that ati is back in the game for real to produce a good gpu for an excellent price,this is also good for nvidia fans because a competition like that will urge nvidia to reduce its prices and produce better cards in the future to stay on top
    For the people who think that you need an AMD based setup to run an ati 4870 at its top....no you don't. If the motherboard is crossfire ready than your good to go.(Don't think if you have an AMD processor it will perform better than that. it doesn't work that way).

  • Scope-Eye51

    Posted Jul 2, 2008 1:14 pm PT

    ATi's cards are way better when it comes to graphics and texture.

  • kojinto posted Jul 2, 2008 11:38 am PT (does not meet display criteria. login to show)

    kojinto

    Posted Jul 2, 2008 11:38 am PT (hide)

    Hmm...

    Now if you were a real Hardcore gamer the best thing to purchase in this situation is the GeForce 260 GTX for $400.00 its only $100.00 more and (in a single card battle) spanks this ATI card. It also comes with Physx built right in. Plus if your willing to go a little further and purchasing and OC'D card, your machine will literally fly. This card may be fast on paper but that wont stop it from eating the GeForce 200 series dust in the long haul.

    besides its best to have 1 fast card instead of two, due to the fact you can stick other things in your machine like a very nice, high quality sound card, and maybe a wireless network card to help speed things up.

    If you want quality, then don't be fooled by this cheap crap.

  • Raptole

    Posted Jul 2, 2008 7:22 am PT

    I think that my 8800GTS 320MB is old now and I wonder buying the 4870?

  • Scope-Eye51

    Posted Jul 1, 2008 10:02 pm PT

    sryiownsomuch it's not just because ATi won this battle,ATi is going to teach nvidia to respect there blind loyalist customers and maybe give you guy's a reasonable price performance card ,you could thanks ATi for this if they ever change there price.

  • g3n3r41xan

    Posted Jul 1, 2008 8:13 pm PT

    @sryiownsomuch
    what cards are you calling stupid.
    first of all these cards beat any nvidia card in terms of price/performance ratio.
    secondly before these cards were out i was with nvidia all the way and i was willing to buy a mid range nvidia card, but 4870 changed my mind.
    so until the time that i want to buy a card, if nvidia doesn't release a cheap card with better performance than the 4870 i have no reason not to buy the 4870.

  • haloshalo

    Posted Jul 1, 2008 10:48 am PT

    javierkatana man i have been waiting for some real users test and 50 fbs all maxed for 400 $ this is a must buy , ordering next day ?

  • Hellknite190

    Posted Jul 1, 2008 8:31 am PT

    this is all very confusing can someone just answer 1 question: what is the best graphics card?

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