Hey getset, good to hear from you again. MGS is good man, I'm a fan, so I might be exaggerating, but the graphics are the best out there, HDR is amazing, insane polygon count, high res textures, best post processing, DETAILS, special effects are top notch, but you know all of this don't you? What I don't like is Beauty and the Beast unit, Cobra unit from Snake Eater was so much better. The game(actual gameplay) feels a bit short, but I love making fun of NPC AI, this makes my clear time quite long. MGO is nice, but I don't like the pace of the thing. As for the feel it feels 95% like MGS3 Subsistence(2005), so if 2005 is old so is the feel of the game. There is one more thing, I'm so sick and tired of this endless assault of Unreal Engine 3 games, MGS4 is a relief. Very happy to hear from you I'm doing okay, I hope you're doing even better adios.

Hi Avtoc long time since we spoke. Are you enjoying MGS ? For me it is a big disappointment. I spend more time watching cut scenes than playing it. Also i think the game feels old. I am really bored with it. I am really fed up with the fact i bought a PS3. So far all it does is gather dust. Anyway, this is only my opinion. I hope you are doing well. Bye mate.

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Yeah, I know what you mean, it's hard to find a game that is actually worth spending money on. In game mechanics respect I don't think MGS4 will be out of this world new, but I think it'll bring a quite a bit of new ideas and also I'm sure the game as a whole will be very innovating all MGS games were, so looking forward for that one.

no i got the PS3 version cos Game Spot said was slightly better. Lets hope MGS4 hits the spot. I am getting a bit frustrated with some of these new gen games. Apart from graphics a lot of them offer nothing new.

Hey getset you got it on X360 right? So, anyway about GTA IV I played it and sadly it did not meet my expectations, but "sold it already" c'mon man it's not that bad, I'll let you in on a little secret a few days before GTA IV release I still had San Andreas installed on my PC, I can't say a used to play it, maybe once in a month and the same thing will be true for GTA IV, I'll pick it up from time to time (play online maybe) and eventually one day I'll finish the campaign, but with MGS4 on its way eventually... Now MGS4 is all I want in a game.

Avtoc have you played GTA IV ? I got it and sold it already. What a lot of rubbish. Same old stuff . GTA was new when it 1st come out . Now just fells old and tired. I got bored with GTAIV after a couple of hours. Even the graphics are bad and the characters are just plain stupid. What about you ? Do you like the it ?

Alright, thanks for your input! What I meant by $150 was that you invest $150 more dolars for the PS3 than the 360. So thanks anyway, and I will continue debating. So far, I'll probably get the 360 as of now...

Hey JerNewbz, where are you going to get a PS3 with 60GB HDD for 150$? As for the console this is your choice only, if you think you will play X360 games get X360, but if you like Metal Gear Solid, GT, God Of War or just about any PS/PS2 games I would recommend PS3, and one more thing PS3 is a better value for money, cuz you are getting more than just a game console, but if all you need is a game console it's down to the games and which controller you prefer.

I'm not sure on which to buy, Xbox 360, or PS3. People tend to say Xbox is now, PS3 is the futur. I am questioning the gamese in particular, I have absolutly no idea which games I would enjoy for this, but I found many games that are exclusive to 360 that looked interesting. Is it worth boosting $150 dolars for a 60gb hard drive PS3? Or $450 120gb Xbox360, but you have to pay for internet?

Hey getset have to agree about Wii it got boaring to soon, also I hope they bring PS2 games to 40gb model through software emulation. Well a lot of reviews have been writing PS3 version looks a bit better and has shorter load times, Sixaxis stuff too, but online Xbox Live is a bit better. Want to hear something funny?... well I'll tell you anyway I now this bloke and the fact he has got PS3 and X360 is a sad misunderstanding so he is getting a PS3 version and when asked about it he said, he did not like the green XBOX stripe on the case of X360 version and that's why he will get the PS3 version.

hi avtoc my PS3 is a 40gb. I bought it cos they had a good deal at the time and they also gave me 2 new games with it. Yes i think the 360 has came to an halt, but the PS3 doesn`t have a lot of exciting news at the moment as well. I reckon they are all waiting for the summer holidays. Anyway, i am starting to enjoy the PS3 more than before, i am even enjoying playing on it some of the oldies PS1 games. I can`t wait for the Dual 3 to be released over here. I think the proof of the pudding is going to be GTA IV. I really don`t know which version i am going to buy. Let`s wait and see. The one i am really bored with is the Wii. Now the novelty of the Wii remote is finished i hardly play the thing. I think i am going to sell it. Bye mate.

Hey getset, your PS3 which one is it? And don't you think X360 game tech has stalled lately, while PS3 or DelayStation games are going forward in terms of tech, but get delayed every time they get close to the release date.

Thanks. I wait for it to come out in England. I hate internet shopping. Far to many croocks from Eastern Europe trying to sabotage UK internet shopping. It is always on telly how people are falling for scams or having their credit card details stolen. R6 Vegas 2 is ok. But offers nothing new in terms of action although i`ve only played it for a couple of hours in my mate`s house. I don`t think i will be buying it.

Well it was released in US a week or so ago but I had to get mine online the Japanese one you know the one that's White. And yes as far as I know Dual Shock 3 is the only controller with rumble, but to be honest I never actually looked, so ask around. Hey getset what about R6 vegas 2 you like it, I think it's more of an expansion pack than a game.

Avtoc just another thing, is the Dual Shock 3 the only controller with rumble ?

Hi Avtoc. In London the Dual Shock 3 is not out yet. In Game Uk and Gamestation i was told that it will be months before it`s released over here and the States. They told me it has just come out in Japan. Do you have a DS3 ? If yes how did you manage to get hold of one ? Bye mate

I'm sure you'll enjoy Dual Shock 3 a great controller, Wipeout's all-right, but I'm not such a big fan. And you say Wipeout HD is the only reason c'mon man what about MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet. Halo was good but not as good as I wanted it to be it's truly overrated, so is Killzone 2 I mean two things I'm looking forward in this game is cover system and not so much graphics as the knowledge that something that looks this good is mostly running of the CPU rather than GPU it's kind of personal though.

Avtoc i am going to get that Dual Shock 3 and hopefully i will enjoy the PS3 a bit more. Finally the only reason why i have not yet sold my PS3 is because i am waiting for Wipeout HD to come out. I love all Wipeouts. I have played them to death. Anyway thanks for the advice on the Dual Shock. Last thing, Halo 3 is a very overrated game. There is a lot of better stuff out there.

Well the graphics in a lot of the games are better on X360 and a bit sharper too cuz' as some say AA is free on Xenos, but the colours is kind of personal some including me like PS3 colours best, and SIXAXIS does have this cheap feel but all Playstation fans have Dual Shock 3 which is great and the size of the thing is not such a big issue, some of us are short you know, and you have yet to play GT5 what you have is GT5 Prologue and more than a million people think it's great the graphics are the best and the phisics are o.k. The fact is there are games you like on X360 but the games some of us love are on PS3 it's as simple as that, we want MGS, we love GT, we can't get enough of Final Fantasy, we like GTA IV with Dual Shock, we like Uncharted and sometimes even flOw. Don't get me wrong Gears is amazing and Halo 3 is kind of o.k, but we're just loyal to Playstation.

hey avtoc. I hope you are ok.Let me tell you what i don`t like about the PS3. 1st the graphics are good but i prefer the 360 graphics. In general they are sharper and have better colours. Then the PS3 remote is a pain. No rumble but the worse is the design. The controller is to small.It feels really unconfortable. The cheap feeling of its plastic material is a real no no. PS3 online is also poor. I know is free but i rather pay and have a good service like xbox live. I like racing and adventure games above all. I both these categories the 360 as much better stuff. This is not to tease you but i hardly play the PS3. I used it last to play GT5. What another waste of my money. I have come to the conclusion there is no point in having a PS3 at all. No doubt the PS3 offers a lot of extra stuff but as far as games goes it is second best by a long margin to the 360.

Hey getset how you been, bought a PS3 hey? and you say you're disappointed so what exactly you did not like? mind-blowing visuals of Uncharted, Blu-ray, all the loading times cut half in Devil May Cry, Dual Shock 3, backward compatibility, XMB, HDMI 1.3, upgradable HDD, mod support in UT3, free PSN, oh I get it you are not a gamer and you don't need Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy, well that is your problem. There are quite a few reason to get a PS3 and you know it, I'm not saying X360 has to be sold, but PS3 is a must have for any gamer whose first console was not the first Xbox.

Just in case somebody bothers to read this. I finally bought a PS3 , all i can say is that i am seriously disappointed , i wasted my money big time. Now i can say with 100% certainty , the 360 is the best game console of them all. If yo have a 360 there is no reason whatsoever to get a PS3 and if you have a PS3 , forget it, sell it and buy a 360.

I love this. Sony fans vs Xbots, it never gets old. I own both consoles but I must admit that I prefer my PS3 over my 360. I'm sorry but the 360 just doesn't measure up. I get so much more out of my PS3 than I do my 360. Werther I play games or not I use my PS3 every day. I got all my music on there I got all my photos and home videos and trailers......you name it. It's so easy to upgrade your Hard Drive and so much more cheaper than with the 360. With what you pay for a 360 20GB HDD you can buy a 160GB HDD for your PS3. Do the math it's not rocket science as to which console gives you more for your money. Not only that but the PS3 has some great games out and some amazing games on the way. I mean we got Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, UT3, Resistance, Ratchet & Clank and if you were smart like me you got a launch console and you can play all your PS2 and PS games on your console. That was last year now we got some new amazing titles on the way like Resistance 2, Haze, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Grand Turismo 5, Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII and VS XIII, Metal Gears Solid 4,and Star Ocean 4. I'm sure I missed some but regardless, you can't touch that line up. Throw on top of that all the multiplatform games that are free to play on line on the PSN as opposed to "XBOX Live Gold" and you got a wining combination. Oh yeah lets not forget about Home, Remote Play, and in game XMB. I love playing my 360 as a matter of fact the last game I got was for my 360 and it will probably be the last I get for a good while because to be honest there is nothing on it's way to the 360 that I'm slightly interested in.,except for maybe Alan Wake which was not originally a 360 exclusive but you know how that goes. M$ wanted it and they probably paid for it. I mean we gotta face facts, M$ screwed up by not putting in a high capacity disc drive in their console be it Blu-Ray or HD-DVD with out a mandatory good size HDD. You gotta have one or the other because the day will come very soon when games will have to do partial installs to the HDD and the 360 will get left behind because not all their consoles have HDD and they can't fit everything on a DVD. Which will mean some people will get left out or you'll have a multi disc game that will be substandard when compared to the PS3 version. Well that's my 2 cents. Peace guys

I still believe the PS3 wins hands down for high definition gaming, online and being a media center.

getset my man you have not changed a bit. I agree PGR4 is the most photorealistic game out there, but GT5 Prologue is right there with it and with the slightest improvement of racetrack quality it will be the best. As for GOW vs Unchartered, gameplay wise it's Gears hands down, but graphics c'mon man yes, there are some slight problems but the technological level of Unchartered is far beyond than of GOW.

here we go again. Yes Unchartered looks sweet and plays well. I give you that . It is the only PS3 game worth buying but Gears of War plays and looks better . Still the best looking game out there is PGR4.Like i said the 360 remains the top console .

Uncharted looks and plays really well, everybody should give it a try. I think it's the best looking game on any console ever, yes it actually looks much, much better than Gears. Gameplay is also good maybe not as good as GOW, but if you like TR this is your game. Oh, and there's Ratchet & Clank and I tell you this game is extraordinary, so getset give this games a try. As for PSP Slim, I'm right with you man extra RAM and faster loading times is great, but no more infra-red port (I know it's hard to believe but I use it from time to time) so if you have a PSP there is no real reason to buy the Slim version unless you're obsessed with this UMD on a TV idea.

aahhhhhh nice to be back. so who else loves unchartered?

Hi Avtoc.Of course the PS3 remains the best media hub but the 360 remains the best for gaming. I think the latest releases prove my point. I have been considering buying a PS3 but to be honest when i see what my mates play on theirs , i feel there is no reason for me to get one at all. Another thing, i bought a PSP Slim. Big disappointment. It offers nothing new and the cables that link it to the telly reduce the picture size a lot and make graphics look blocky to the extreme. Waste of money that was. I like to play games on the go. When i am travelling or commuting. For thIs the DS remains the best.

hey getset how are you man and now let us get to the argument now when X360 got DivX do we think X360 is a better media hub than PS3 of course I'm quite sure getset thinks it always was but not all of us agree.

Yeah I missed the arguments too. That's why I came back on here.

nice one bear . Nice to hear from you. I miss the old 360 vs ps3 arguments.

hey this place is still here! I thought it was gone good I mean great job Bear how you been how's it going what do you say we have a get guys back and have a reunion or something PS3 hardware is not the case anymore but games still are, so who is excited about UT3 I have the PC version and it's very good actually and I believe it'll be even better on PS3 what do you think?

Yeah I haven't been on here in a while simply because I thought they terminated the link. Luckily I added it as an bookmark on my PS3, and got the link there.

This page has been dead for months now.

i guess this page is dead now

I had it before, but it doesn't appear now... damn GS.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6125429/index.html?tag=subnav;about ) this is the link.

there should be a tab up where all the different sections for each system are located. it is called PS3 inside and out.

Is there any way to access this forum without having to go to my history or placing it in faves?

anyone pick up stranglehold yet? i have been wildin with that game since this weekend ( downloaded the demo )

get set i should be getting a 360 before the end of the year. my friends at the job have been begging me to get one so i can play games with them online and now that Halo3 is out i can see grabbing one. life willbe great having both systems. oh yeah i have to get Bioshock. PS3 has a lot of hot games coming in Nov - Feb. the Wii is slowly dying out. so its almost back to the way it has been for the last generation. one question: do the 360's still run loud as hell or no?

well i have been hearing about Halo 3 pretty sweet game huh? my friends at work r loving it. 2yrs into the life cycle of the 360 but better late than never right? now could we give the same patience to the PS3 which still didnt reach a yr yet. as far as the console wars being won already that is a bad piece of foot to shove in your mouth, slow down get set go dont jump the gun. to be real they havent really started yet because one system hasnt even had a real holiday season yet. but after this christmas we will officially be in the war. so hold on to your horses get set. Ninja gaiden 2 is exclusive for 2008. not forever

Now what for the 360 ? Apart from the exclusives already out and the multi-platforms games , PGR4 (best racing game ever) is soon to be released. There is more, Ninja Gaiden 2 has been announced. Guess what ? This one is going to be another 360 exclusive. The 360 won the battle hands down. In Europe and the rest of the world ( except Japan---big deal---who cares?) the 360 rules.

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good post gwenaellp my friend love's halo he pawns at halo n he is the biggest fanboy of halo but today i ask him to tell me the truth what had better graphic halo 3 of lair/heavenly sword n he said lair/heavenly sword hands down

the 360 won the console war hands on!!!!!! because of Halo 3 ?
Are you kiding me ????????????
do you remenber the movie Nemo when at the end they get out of the aquarium and end up in the ocean, after all the excitment they look at each other and say " Now what ????"
Well now that Halo 3 is out " Now What ??????" Halo 4 ?
Well since the PS3 has won the market in Japan and the 360 is pretty much irrelevent, we just have to wait and play Grand turismo, Final Fantasy, MGS4, Little big planet, unreal tournment, probably a tekken, warhawk 2 ( I have never had some much fun playing online with the motion sensor controler) I can only imaging how great a second one would be,
When Sony in the next few months reduce the price of the PS3 and people want to play those games EA will have no choice but to do a better job and release sport games that really take advantage of the PS3, all that will happen soner than we think. Look at Heavenly Sword, too bad it ends too fast but it is the kind of games the 360 will never have, it gives an idea of what the future will be when the PS3 outsell the other platforms.

GAME OVER.

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Halo 3 is out. If envy was green this room would be green all over. Come on people. No trolling , no teasing , but just admit it, the 360 won the console battle hands down.