Dead Island really deserves a 4?
- Apr 24, 2013 3:42 pm GMT
I guess they forgot to bribe Gamespot.
The main complaint seems to be story. That is irrelevant i have always thought game stories suck. If u wants a good story watch walking dead. People buy this game for fun coop experience. People want content not a whole new experience.
I think this game is brilliant. It builds one what we love even though at the moment it is bug ridden. Why create a whole new game and when what we really want is a better coop dead island one. I mean the biggest problem with the first in my opinion was the environment was bad. Who ever thought sewers where a good idea I guess got shot.
The combat is everything in this game and i think it does a great job at improving on it. Guns now do direct elemental damage or have retrievable ammo. The weapon levelling system lets you use other weapons outside your class for more tactical play style.
More mods and more varies weapons allow you to create some unique weapons. I mean a heavy weighted morning star makes and awesome crowd control weapon. While a harpoon gun can snipe the heads off infected before they reach you. Then a pistol can make easy work of a thug at close range.
Over all this game deserves a 7. A 4 is stupid this is coop game focused on combat not a story driven fps.
Gamespot get someone who knows what a game is about to review it
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- Apr 24, 2013 3:47 pm GMTActually, I'd say the main complaint is that it's too similar to the first which is actually a little unfair because there is just enough minor improvements to make a difference. Zombie Crushing has a huge impact on my strategy and the Uppercut ability is great fun. I agree this is more of a rehash than the polished sequel I wanted, but it has improved just enough for me to say it deserves whatever score the original got. At least 6.5 to 7.
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- Apr 24, 2013 4:38 pm GMT
I mean i primary thing that makes a games good is content. If you have nothing to do the game is obviously boring. So Im not opposing them making essentially the same game its not like the coop fps horror is saturated at the moment.
The coop here is on such a high level. No game beside the new defiance can pull off an enjoyable role-less combat. (maybe more)
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- Apr 25, 2013 11:27 am GMT
I was surprised to see a 4.0 score for this. IGN have given it 7.2 which is quite a big difference.
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- Apr 25, 2013 1:29 pm GMT
so far I find the game much better then the first one the fun factor is much higher and find exploring much better compaired to the first one still alot of fun but not as good as riptide
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- Apr 25, 2013 12:25 pm GMT
Harsh review. I haven't played it yet, played the first one. From other reviews I have read/watched they are saying it's very similar to the original but not as many bugs as the first. And yet, GS gave the original Dead Island a 7.
The review seem to focus on all the slightly bad things but make them big problems. ie the quests, saying they are all fetch quests. Ok, yes that is all the same and probably boring after a few quests, but what other quests could there be. Escort missions? everyone hates them. Also, I'm pretty sure there are defending locations missions because I saw it in a video.
What about the good things, graphics? they look ok, sound? if it goes by the original its good (not great but good) except the horrible voice acting.
As for the combat, it's different from other games, but then it is meant to be. Although I do think they could have more guns in the game, especially mid-way and towards the end of the game. Maybe they have, like I said I haven't played it yet. But that would make the combat different and keep it mixed
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- Apr 26, 2013 4:11 am GMT
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Well, if the reviewer tremendously despised his time with the game, what do you expect? There is a limit to anyone's patience, after all.
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- Apr 26, 2013 4:20 am GMT
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[QUOTE="mellyonz"]I guess they forgot to bribe Gamespot.[/quote]
That's an old tiresome joke that is typically directed at any game site that has actual cash flow.
[quote="mellyonz"]That is irrelevant i have always thought game stories suck.[/quote]
That's an oxymoronic statement.
[quote="mellyonz"]If u wants a good story watch walking dead.[/quote]
Why bring the television show into this? Is that even relevant?
[quote="mellyonz"]People buy this game for fun coop experience.[/quote]
Then they are better off with Left 4 Dead or any other co-op game that gives way better methods to get rid of hordes coming their way.
[quote="mellyonz"]People want content not a whole new experience.[/quote]
You do know that Riptide recycles a lot from the original, don't you?
[quote="mellyonz"]I think this game is brilliant. It builds one what we love even though at the moment it is bug ridden.[/quote]Hence, you are biased enough to forgive issues with the game. Yet, here you are, p*ssing on some reviewer's review and ranting away.
[quote="mellyonz"]The combat is everything in this game and i think it does a great job at improving on it. Guns now do direct elemental damage or have retrievable ammo. The weapon levelling system lets you use other weapons outside your class for more tactical play style.[/quote]
These are not new game designs. People who have been playing many other games - especially the Borderlands titles - would not find Riptide's improvements over the original to be refreshing.
[quote="mellyonz"]Gamespot get someone who knows what a game is about to review it[/QUOTE]This is yet another old and tiresome statement directed at game sites by a person that does not realize that he/she is no less biased than the next person.
You start your post with one, and then end with another one - how typical.
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- Apr 26, 2013 4:21 am GMT
Sorry but copying and pasting the same game does not make it an immediate 6 or 7. The first Dead Island was fun but way to repetitious, to the point where I just stopped playing. THey obviously did not listen to any of their fans and think they can make a few new levels and call it a sequel. I don't understand the appeal of killing the same zombies over and over and over, while you do a fetch-quest and then kill more zombies. It is like a constant adrenaline rush with no stop, and after awhile it loses its appeal way too quickly. I would say a 4 or 5 is appropriate.
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- Apr 26, 2013 4:23 am GMT
There's so much hoo-ha over arbitrarily assigned numbers.
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All the ladies below (mostly drawn by a certain awesome but, for better or worse, not-so-well known fan artist) are actual game characters, though not (necessarily) THAT kind of games if you are thinking about those.
There's so much hoo-ha over arbitrarily assigned numbers. :roll:
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- Apr 26, 2013 4:52 am GMT
If bribing gamespot is required for a good score, then forgetting to do it is the greatest incompetence of all.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Apr 26, 2013 3:20 pm GMT
I never listen to reviews anyway .. but having said that .. COD which is basicly always the same with new guns.. and a few hours of a different campainge always gets high scores.. so.. its whatever scores dont really mean much
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- Apr 28, 2013 10:24 am GMT
I rarely care about the story no matter what game I'm playing (not a graphic whore either). But it's a zombie game, it's all about killing billion of zombies, smashing their heads and all that fun stuff so I don't really care about what kind of story I experience in a game. The sequel was fun and I really enjoyed it same as the first one but the ending was kinda questionable. Yes, the dialogues and characters are superbly weak, I agree with GS that characters are soulless but once again - it's all about killing zombies.
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- Apr 29, 2013 4:28 am GMTGamespot values originality above all else, their holy grail if you prefer. If a game doesnt match that, then its off to the garbage can with scores like 4 or 4.5. Was the game mediocre? Probably. But it was not garbage. Gamespot praised original Dead Island combat, but BURIES Riptide combat. Was that worse? or just the same (most likely). The real question here is that Gamespot judges with one blind eye. *cough*cough* Call of Duty
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- Apr 29, 2013 4:31 am GMT
what about call of duty then? why was it praised by Gamespot?
same things here but judged differently
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- Apr 29, 2013 9:29 am GMTWhile the game is fun , I myself cannot reward a developer for totally ignoring everything that was broken in the first . That alone is a 4.0 in my opinion .
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- Apr 29, 2013 6:45 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="Geogyf"]
what about call of duty then? why was it praised by Gamespot?
same things here but judged differently
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Heh, I was wondering when someone would bring in Call of Duty when complaining about game reviews.
Way to go for perpetuating a trope and a fad - one that was started by people who cannot seem to acknowledge that any review for any game by any reviewer is its own special case and more importantly, a unique opinion.
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- Apr 30, 2013 4:14 pm GMT
Well I'm about 18 hours in and so far I've got exactly what I expected from this - more of the same fun I had with the original Dead Island.
I did prefer the initially sunny and inviting location of Resort to the darker and more threatening jungle, but just about everything from the original is still in this, plus a bunch of new weapons, some new zombies, new skills and a new character.
If you enjoyed the original and want some more of the same then this is good fun and worth getting. If you didn't like the original then there is nothing here to convince you to like the Dead Island series.
I disagree with Mark's score of 4/10, both as an absolute score for the game, but also in comparison to the 7/10 the original was awarded. Many of the criticisms Mark had about Riptide were also present in Dead Island - the characters, the story telling, the combat, the quests - all the same as the original - yet somehow now only worthy of half the score.
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- Apr 30, 2013 6:18 pm GMT
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All the ladies below (mostly drawn by a certain awesome but, for better or worse, not-so-well known fan artist) are actual game characters, though not (necessarily) THAT kind of games if you are thinking about those.
[QUOTE="Avenger1324"]Many of the criticisms Mark had about Riptide were also present in Dead Island - the characters, the story telling, the combat, the quests - all the same as the original - yet somehow now only worthy of half the score.[/QUOTE]
You fret too much over arbitrarily assigned numbers.
That said, you may want to know/be reminded that Mark Walton did not review the original Dead Island - his former colleague Jane Douglas, who is much more forgiving of problems in games than very jaded Mark, did.
Different people, different opinions. Some people can't keep that in mind when all they see are digits that have been given more significance than numerical characters deserve though.
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Dead Island: Riptide (Special Edition)
- Publisher(s): Deep Silver
- Developer(s): Techland
- Genre: Action
- Release:
- ESRB: M
