Whoever was in charge of the music LoS series is a talentless hack.
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Mar 4, 2013 7:21 pm GMT
I thought it was just this game so I decided to look up the OST of the first game as well. They ALL blow! Nothing but background noises, nothing memorable at all.
Whatever happened to all the great pieces previous Castlevania games had to offer?
The previous games had stuff like Demon Castle Pinnacle(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-FAYWGsvkg&list=FLyTY3l2dAp-4Tpg0ms5ZsSQ) and Empty Tome (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRBfC3fxHDY). This game and the previous game is just pure laziness. They may have an orchestra, but what good is an orchestra if you can't even use it? Maybe the orchestra members themselves are also talentless hacks or maybe they're musical geniuses, it doesn't matter if what they have to work with is garbage.
And if the games' music are done by the same producer, then he must have gotten lazy and phoned it in.
Mar 4, 2013 7:19 pm GMT
You must be fun at parties.
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Mar 4, 2013 7:20 pm GMT
Well they are more talented then one who doesn't make music at all.
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Mar 4, 2013 7:21 pm GMT
StrawHatLustig posted...You must be fun at parties.
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Mar 4, 2013 7:25 pm GMT
Oddly, Mirror of Fate, being a sequel, means that a whole lot of people on these boards have played and enjoyed the first game. The majority of folks know very well how different the game sounded to traditional Castlevania, and don't expect any different from MOF.
I personally love the LOS soundtrack. I also loved the original Castlevania tunes too, but it's not impossible to love them both
They're different, granted. If it bothers you so much, why don't you invest in a small MP3 player (though most people have one already), load it up with all those classic tunes, and keep your earphones in (and the music volume on your 3DS at minimum) while you play to replicate the effect?
Mar 4, 2013 7:25 pm GMT
Aww how cute
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Mar 4, 2013 7:29 pm GMT
http://filmmusiccritics.org/2011/07/bruno-coulais-and-oscar-araujo-recieve-ifmca-awards/Spanish composer Araujo received his award for Best Original Score for a Video Game or Interactive Media for his astonishing work on the Kojima\Konami video game Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. Making use of a 120-piece orchestra and choir, Araujo’s spectacular music for the game was one of the 2010’s overwhelming critical successes, both in the film music world, and in the video game industry, and earmarks the composer as a talent to watch in the future. Araujo, who was also nominated for Breakout Composer of the Year for the same work, received a great deal of publicity in his native Spain following the announcement of his win.Gee, I wonder who is more suitable to judge the artistic talent of a composer: an association of critics, or the TC...
Mar 4, 2013 7:57 pm GMT
what a jerk. you havent even heard all of the music yet to call that!
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Mar 4, 2013 8:01 pm GMT
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Mar 4, 2013 8:05 pm GMT
StriderNemesis posted...
Gee, I wonder who is more suitable to judge the artistic talent of a composer: an association of critics, or the TC...
An association of critics is the last thing I would go to for artistic opinions. All too often people who consider themselves scholars or 'critique' art or music for a living end up way over glorifying certain works for stupid and misguided reasons.
Case in point with this specific subject. This is the exact reason why at least 50% of the CV fanbase has flat out rejected LoS's soundtrack, while the 'association of critics' clearly praised it enough to award it. People's opinions are different. Fans of CV want CV music, while artistic critics look for well executed movie scores, no matter how uninspired and creatively worthless they may sound. It is a different set of opinions and expectations.
However the TC saying 'talentless hack' is a little silly, that's obviously not the case. The musicians in the orchestra clearly are outstanding on the technical side of things, and I don't think the composer is 'talentless' but his style is more modern movie scoring stuff, it is on the other side of the world from the CV music people know.
All of this said, I find only 'waterfalls' inspired piece to be a decent track from LoS, everything else to me is forgetful or comes across as truly uninspired, archaic musical decisions from a characterization and modulation standpoint ... so I tend to dislike most of the LoS soundtrack myself, but it's not so much the composer trying and failing, I think it's just his style.
Mar 4, 2013 8:14 pm GMT
Kazama Jin posted...StriderNemesis posted...
Gee, I wonder who is more suitable to judge the artistic talent of a composer: an association of critics, or the TC...
An association of critics is the last thing I would go to for artistic opinions. All too often people who consider themselves scholars or 'critique' art or music for a living end up way over glorifying certain works for stupid and misguided reasons.
Case in point with this specific subject. This is the exact reason why at least 50% of the CV fanbase has flat out rejected LoS's soundtrack, while the 'association of critics' clearly praised it enough to award it. People's opinions are different. Fans of CV want CV music, while artistic critics look for well executed movie scores, no matter how uninspired and creatively worthless they may sound. It is a different set of opinions and expectations.
However the TC saying 'talentless hack' is a little silly, that's obviously not the case. The musicians in the orchestra clearly are outstanding on the technical side of things, and I don't think the composer is 'talentless' but his style is more modern movie scoring stuff, it is on the other side of the world from the CV music people know.
All of this said, I find only 'waterfalls' inspired piece to be a decent track from LoS, everything else to me is forgetful or comes across as truly uninspired, archaic musical decisions from a characterization and modulation standpoint ... so I tend to dislike most of the LoS soundtrack myself, but it's not so much the composer trying and failing, I think it's just his style.
I find your post a bit contradictory. First you discredit the opinion of an association that calls the composer very talented, and then you discredit the TC for calling the composer untalented.
While we can argue about his music being suitable for a Castlevania game or not (I find it very suitable for these LOS games), the fact that he is talented is undeniable.
Mar 4, 2013 8:37 pm GMT
Things aren't so black and white, that's why my post makes sense.
It's very possible to discredit an association who would award someone for unbelievably and shockingly bland music. To a musician such as myself, the musicial decisions are so simple and uninspired at times, it can be irritating and annoying to listen to it. I think this is a reasonable opinion to have.
But I can also say the composer isn't a 'talentless hack'. Talentless hack is a bit of a sweeping insult, isn't it? That's why I said he's obviously not that. Talentless hack to me would be just incoherent, undisciplined music. That's not the case with LoS, so to me, the TCs insult is overdoing things (Which I suspect he probably knows).
Doesn't take away anything from the opinion that the guys music is creatively worthless.
Mar 4, 2013 8:43 pm GMT
Kazama Jin posted...Things aren't so black and white, that's why my post makes sense.
It's very possible to discredit an association who would award someone for unbelievably and shockingly bland music. To a musician such as myself, the musicial decisions are so simple and uninspired at times, it can be irritating and annoying to listen to it. I think this is a reasonable opinion to have.
But I can also say the composer isn't a 'talentless hack'. Talentless hack is a bit of a sweeping insult, isn't it? That's why I said he's obviously not that. Talentless hack to me would be just incoherent, undisciplined music. That's not the case with LoS, so to me, the TCs insult is overdoing things (Which I suspect he probably knows).
Doesn't take away anything from the opinion that the guys music is creatively worthless.
Fair enough. Thing is, while I could've only posted my opinion (that he is clearly talented), I think that the fact that he was awarded by an association backs it up at least a bit. I mean, if he was awarded, he must be at least remotely good at what he does.
Mar 4, 2013 8:44 pm GMT
Kazama Jin posted...StriderNemesis posted...
Gee, I wonder who is more suitable to judge the artistic talent of a composer: an association of critics, or the TC...
An association of critics is the last thing I would go to for artistic opinions. All too often people who consider themselves scholars or 'critique' art or music for a living end up way over glorifying certain works for stupid and misguided reasons.
Case in point with this specific subject. This is the exact reason why at least 50% of the CV fanbase has flat out rejected LoS's soundtrack, while the 'association of critics' clearly praised it enough to award it. People's opinions are different. Fans of CV want CV music, while artistic critics look for well executed movie scores, no matter how uninspired and creatively worthless they may sound. It is a different set of opinions and expectations.
However the TC saying 'talentless hack' is a little silly, that's obviously not the case. The musicians in the orchestra clearly are outstanding on the technical side of things, and I don't think the composer is 'talentless' but his style is more modern movie scoring stuff, it is on the other side of the world from the CV music people know.
All of this said, I find only 'waterfalls' inspired piece to be a decent track from LoS, everything else to me is forgetful or comes across as truly uninspired, archaic musical decisions from a characterization and modulation standpoint ... so I tend to dislike most of the LoS soundtrack myself, but it's not so much the composer trying and failing, I think it's just his style.
At least 50% hm? How far up your ass did you have to dig around to pull that statistic out? Seems to me that it's, like always on the internet, a vocal and obnoxious collection of whiners who cry foul just because something has changed.
Also, I call BS on anyone whose calling out this games music, especially since the game isn't even out yet. If you haven't played it, you've got no place to talk. It's going to be different from the old stuff, so what? They're going for something different in this universe. They're going for something darker.
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Mar 4, 2013 8:47 pm GMT
StriderNemesis posted...Fair enough. Thing is, while I could've only posted my opinion (that he is clearly talented), I think that the fact that he was awarded by an association backs it up at least a bit. I mean, if he was awarded, he must be at least remotely good at what he does.
Exactly. Using your example as a means of jettisoning off into a tangent about critics just seems misguided.
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Mar 4, 2013 9:57 pm GMT
I express how much I trust the judgement of an "association of critics", I'll let you know I hold them on about the same level as the VGA's, Oscars, Annie's, and alike...
If you want to take a guess of what my opinion on those equivalents are, the VGA's gave the 50 Cents game "Best Original Song" while the Annie's had Kung-fu Panda win against Wall-E....
Mar 4, 2013 10:10 pm GMT
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