"Quickscoping is easy/cheap/OP" - guy who has never tried it

Draconilian posted...

It is easy in bo2. Its just not very strong and its.slow

I'm not saying it's extremely hard. Just harder to do consistently well with compared to using an AR/SMG. That's all.

XT3M3 posted...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw8-Rp0Ieyk&feature=youtu.be

Nice video. However, similar to the other guy's video, most of those kills weren't quickscopes. I'd say about 10 of them were. Many of the times you tried quickscoping, you ended up missing and dying, or resorting to the knife.

Again, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with "hardscoping"....I do it all the time. Just saying that I'm asking for a video of a game consisting of ONLY QUICKSCOPING so I can see just how easy it is. You did have that one nice part on the jet where you got 3 kills pretty close together, and the last two were quickscopes.

Regardless, what was your opinion on sniping in general being easier/harder to do well with compared to using other reg guns? You also have to remember Carrier is one of the few maps in this game that actually has lines of sight and is somewhat large. Not trying to discredit your video, but that does help out a bit when it comes to sniping.
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XBL GT: PhysiKuL
"Please tell us again of the importance of being a pro Call of Duty player. I seemed to have missed that."

arghhhh posted...

I never usually get involved in these QSing debates, mainly because I know nothing about it, can't do it and I'm ******* terrible when sniping in the usual fashion.
Does 'aim assist' or 'sticky aim' whatever you want to call it not play a part at all in QSing? Would you be able to do just as well without it. I know fatclemenza said in another topic that PC doesn't have aim assist and people do well there, but isn't it generally considered PC doesn't need it because its much easier to aim on PC with KB & M (again, I don't know as I'm not a PC gamer).

I'm not getting into the 'easy or hard' debate here I just want to know how much aim assist plays a part.

Oh, it definitely plays a part. But aim assist plays a part with any gun you use in CoD...not just sniping. I don't know if there's an exact answer for "how much of a part" it plays...it depends on the shot. But clearly it's not as big as people make it out to be, otherwise you'd see more people going on quickscope rampages and hitting 10+ shots in a row since the game does all the aiming for you.
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XBL GT: PhysiKuL
"Please tell us again of the importance of being a pro Call of Duty player. I seemed to have missed that."

Sliq6969 posted...

QS is broken. It's why you see people QS in the Grand Finals of huge tournaments OH WAIT THAT'S RIGHT YOU DON'T.

Babies gonna cry.

This is the single argument I've used that I have NEVER seen someone respond to. Not a single time. Here, I'll repost what I said earlier in hopes of someone seeing it again and actually responding:

ImTooSkilledd posted...

NBA2KXX posted...

If you go up against an elite quickscoper, you will most definitely get crapped on. I'm talking about those dudes that don't even bring their scope up. You have absolutely NO CHANCE against those guys because you will see him for a split second and BAM! You're dead. You drop. It's like GOD killed you. An elite SMG user CANNOT kill you as quickly as an elite quickscoper can. And THAT is the reason why quickscoping is annoying & cheap.

You can make topics about this all day and night until, but you cannot deny how deadly an elite quickscoper is in this series. Especially in Black Ops 2 because they sold out and made it even easier than before.

If this is the case, explain this: How come people playing in tournaments for thousands of dollars don't choose to quickscope? It's so cheap and gives the other opponent no chance...right? Those people play for hours and hours to practice being good...surely they could get good at quickscoping. So why don't you see professional gamers quickscope when they're playing competitively?

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XBL GT: PhysiKuL
"Please tell us again of the importance of being a pro Call of Duty player. I seemed to have missed that."

ZephyrSSX posted...

ITT: Virgin gets mad people insulted his gameplay tactic

Sorry I'm 15 and live in my mom's basement...I get really offended when people aren't impressed with my gaming abilities. Not my fault bro.
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XBL GT: PhysiKuL
"Please tell us again of the importance of being a pro Call of Duty player. I seemed to have missed that."

Blizzard09 posted...

You seem to be linking easy with being great at doing it...

Hockey is easy to play, does that mean everyone that plays hockey is as good as a NHL player? No, But you logic is yes, since hockey is easy to play.

Quickscoping is easy to do. Its skill and practice that makes someone really good at it. You fail to see the difference in the two. Just because something is easy does make everyone that does it good at it.

Except for the part that I've clarified exactly what I mean multiple times...here, I'll bold it:

Getting a single quickscope or a few quickscopes in one game is not hard. Being able to consistently do well (1.5+ K/D) while quickscoping, however, takes much more effort, and is harder than doing the same with an AR/SMG. Even if you can do well quickscoping, you would certainly do even better if you just pulled out a PDW/FAL/basically any other reg gun. Because of this, quickscoping is not overpowered at all. I've never said it's a challenge landing a single quickscope, or even a few over the course of a game. I've always stated that being able to consistently hit shots and do well is what is challenging.

And for the record, don't you see how strange/contradictory it sounds if someone says "Yeah, quickscoping is so easy and OP! I always get stuck in games where my teammates are quickscoping and go 10-20 and lose the game for us!"...? Apparently it's not that easy if the vast majority of people who do it suck at it.

p.s - By your logic, I can say Calculus II is extremely easy. Doesn't matter if I only get 10 out of 50 questions right on the exam, does it? I'm still doing Calculus aren't I? Never said "Getting the correct answers in Calculus II is easy"...I just said calculus.
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XBL GT: PhysiKuL
"Please tell us again of the importance of being a pro Call of Duty player. I seemed to have missed that."