@anshumansinghr Posted Oct 15, 2011 5:45 am CET Rightly said zanelli. Its not about the PC being faster its just better. DirectX 11 vs DirectX 9. PC! PC! PC! - - - - - - - - - - Kinda bullkrap. I'm a proud PS3-owner for someone who's first game was Wolfenstein 3D on an old DOS-PC at about 8 years old. My Windows 7 computer is here up and running with anything from Worms, Plants Vs Zombies, to Assassin's Creed, Crysis, TF2 and GTAIV. And on the other side of the room by the TV there's my PS3, with Uncharted, inFAMOUS, LittleBigPlanet, Heavenly Sword, Dante's Inferno, Skate 3, and on and on... GAMES, it's about GOOD GAMES, not a platform. So skrew superiorism and support good games.
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- Oct 12, 2011
We compare graphics settings in the Battlefield 3 beta. Can you tell the difference between the low and the ultra?
@zanelli DamageIncM Posted Oct 13, 2011 11:16 pm CET zanelli : "I see they didn't show the custom settings with everything turned up. The ultra pre-set still had some settings on medium and high and not cranked all the way up. People should really be asking why the Battlefield 3 website is pushing that you need the latest nVidia card to play, when a 5 year old 8800 can run this game maxed out fine." Well, then why does my overclocked GTS450 have trouble at even Medium? That doesn't make sense as it's supposedly faster than the 8800GTX. zanelli Posted Oct 15, 2011 4:22 am CET @DamageIncM I didn't say it was faster. Maybe it has something to do with DX11. - - - - - - - - - - No, I just meant that the specifications do say it's faster. Yet, my computer has trouble with this game. But maybe the DX11 does make it heavier, if it would turn it down to DX10 with an 8800.
Still, for what kind of game it is, I play it on the PS3. That's my personal preference and I'm not obsessed with graphics and what not, while I do PREFER good graphics and performance. Still, I don't get off to just graphics when I can't play the game properly, it's still about the game to me. It's just that, in videogames, the video-part tends to be significantly important.
@evaneself Posted Oct 15, 2011 1:29 am CET (hide) I love PS3 from this year, the pc gamers are so...., how to tell without offend them? They are only after graphics, they offend ps3 players and yells when they see that they don't know nothing about Dark Souls, Uncharted or Red Dead Redemption, Yakuza, MGS4, etc.. and that is very good. They should remain with their beautiful graphics and stupid games that are not their own. - - - - - - - - - - Would you take that back?... I agree that many PC-"gamers" are quite obsessed with technical stuff and getting the most out of their rig. But my main videogame-platform is the PC and I know and love good games. I ALSO have a PS3, but am I satisfied with its looks and performance? Well, reasonably... PS3-games can look beautiful, just look at the 'Uncharted'-franchise. BUT, (and yes, that's a very big but) the framerate can get crippled quite a bit, and that while the graphics-settings aren't even up to what their PC-versions can or could do. I mean, the 'Uncharted'-games might not be on PC, but look at another beautiful-looking game called 'Just Cause 2'. It looks great on the PS3, at the cost of often crippled framerates, but it has far superior graphics and even extra effects in its PC-version, and such a computer could have a lot less struggle with the performance of it.
@Toysoldier34 Why do I prefer gaming on a console? Because I grew up with consoles. I like the feel of a controller in my hand and the accessability of playing on my tv in my living room, chillin on my couch. Your "FPS is much better with mouse and keyboard" comment is opinion. I play Doom on PC and console, and Im MUCH better on the console. Personally, I play better with a controller. All of your stats, while they may be true, how long will that hold out? No one is arguing that PC's are more powerful then consoles. What Im saying is that consoles are developing FASTER. PC's have been out way longer then consoles and consoles are closing the gap quickly. Yes, certain developers do place PC above consoles, but their few and far between, like you said so yourself. Regardless of how you THINK the new consoles are made, the argument that "people play on 6 year old machines" is moot. Most people dont stay with their launch system, especially when more powerful and quit versions are released. People play on consoles more then PC's for accesability. You dont have to worry if your machine can run it on max settings, or if you have to settle for low or medium quality. You want to play the game the way it was meant to be played. And with a console, you can do that. I didnt misunderstand anything. I have nothing against PC gaming either. I just prefer consoles and I think people, not just you, over exagerate the difference between PC gaming and console gaming.
@grim0187 Why would you play on consoles if your PC can max the game? Only reason I can see is if you are playing with friends. Since a FPS is much better with a mouse and keyboard, and for those that it isn't a 360 or PS3 controller can both be used on PC. PC has much better graphics and running at 1080p 60FPS is much better than 640 upscaled like many console games with 30 FPS. The lighting and other DX11 features are much better on PC. PC also has much more content starting with the 64 player multiplayer. DICE has said that they build from the PC up and focuses all of their efforts there to make it the best they could unlike most developers these days. Also having consoles with different hardware doesn't change much because the game is built around the oldest hardware so that all systems can play it. For instance if you have a Solid State Drive in a PS3 you do not get the increase in performance like you should. One big reason that consoles sell much better is because people think you need a $2,000 PC to play games, when for $600 I can build a PC that can max anything out there. Also, I brought up good audio as something along with visuals because together they draw players in more and enhance the atmosphere which in turn enhances the entire gameplay experience. You misunderstood a lot of what I wrote. I have nothing against consoles. You went off on random things that didn't pertain to the way I said things, very out of context with a lot of what I said.
i want the xbox version but the graphics on beta killed it! hope the final is better or ima half to get a gtx 570 and pc it up
@Toysoldier34 What do you think Im typing this on? My PC can run BF3 on max settings easily. The thing is, I prefer to game on a console. I know alot of games that have very good graphics but subpar gaming quality. It doesnt matter how big your tv is or the sound system you have (dont know why you put that in there, you can have the same sound system with a console as you can with a PC.) The graphics gap is not as big as you try to make it out to be. Plain and simple. I mean, we're not gaming on Super Nintendo's while you have 2011 PC machines....True, the hardware is old, but not everyone has the same launch 360. The newer Xboxes and playstations DO have different hardware components in them. And there's always next gen to look foward to when the gap closes even larger. More R&D gets pumped into consoles faster because thats where the money is. Its why I constantly see people say "no PC version?" Consoles are jumping faster then PC's. Before long the graphics between the two will be nonexistent.
Okay with all the people saying the only thing good about PC is better graphics, let's just say that it's not one thing that makes it "better", it's everything. It's the tons of peripherals (tons of mice, keyboards, headsets, speaker options, touchpads, microphones, usb mini fridges lol etc), the incredibly accurate keyboard and mouse, the ability to turn off vsync for instant control response (vsync makes the controls/responsiveness of consoles sluggish for sake of keeping the screen from cutting down the middle, look it up), the fun customizability, the high resolution computer monitors with quick response times over meh resolution TV's with slow response times. Fantastic gaming additions like audio cards, gaming communities/overlays/internet browsers while playing through steam, custom maps, mods and FREE multiplayer. Hundreds of game sales every year through digital distribution services (like Steam). PC's are so much more than just graphics settings..
@eminem197795 LOL I thought the exact same thing the first time. He actually says "aging" computers, but the word is a little slurred so it sounds like Asian.
This video is incredibly stupid. They could've added an option for no shadows or no post processing if they wanted to, they just didn't. ZOMFG?! Rage looks great on the lowest setttings too, because its only options are on/off anti-alising.
@Toysoldier34 Do some research DX11 isn't that much better visually and DX10 cards (like 8800) have now been updated to DX11 and can use almost all of DX11 features. I also know DX11 features it does not support; like tessellation hit your frame rate hard. It could even be having the GPU handle physics. You also have a heavily overclocked card, so chances are the high temps are causing you to loose more frames than the overclock gives you. It's common knowledge that nVidia cards can suffer from massive drops in performance under load due to poor cooling. *Edit* I'm not saying the performance of an 8800 is the same or better than newer high end cards. I test a lot of hardware, I know every year graphics cards get marginally better. I was just saying that this game really doesn't push they boat out graphically, it looks very similar to Crysis 2 at times. Things like environmental destruction and physics in this game are far more impressive and depending on how you set up your rig will either tax your GPU or CPU. Also to define "maxed out" just means all in game settings are set to their highest value. Like my 22" has a max resolution of 1680x1050, I can't set my res higher than that. Technically I have the settings above in game max, with x8 anti aliasing, not just x4.
@zanelli Also, DX10 isn't playing the game "maxed out" There are lots of visual features that greatly enhance things in DX11.
@grim0187 You obviously have never personally played on a nice PC gaming setup. Great visuals and audio is part of the gameplay and the entire experience. It makes the atmosphere better and draws you in more. You compare it to Bluray vs DVD and in many cases it is just that. The people saying this haven't seen how good it can get. You can't compare a DVD to a Bluray on a 26 inch TV because you aren't getting the full experience, but after seeing that same Bluray on a 60 inch TV with a nice 71 sound system it really is eye opening. Better visuals = better gaming experience, having things look better doesn't make anything worse, only better.
@zanelli My heavily overclocked GTX 460 runs the game maxed at about 40-60FPS. A 8800 physically can not produce the same visual quality and a steady frame rate.
Rightly said zanelli. Its not about the PC being faster its just better. DirectX 11 vs DirectX 9. PC! PC! PC!
@DamageIncM I didn't say it was faster. Maybe it has something to do with DX11. @Toysoldier34 Mine does. I don't lie. End of Story.
pc nerds are happy they finally actually have a game in modern memory thats decent and actually uses their hardware. All the pc gamers play the pc version and stop epeening. I have an i7 gaming rig and I'm playing it on console primarily because I remember the quagmire of patches that BF2 was. Dont forget the EA factor.
I love PS3 from this year, the pc gamers are so...., how to tell without offend them? They are only after graphics, they offend ps3 players and yells when they see that they don't know nothing about Dark Souls, Uncharted or Red Dead Redemption, Yakuza, MGS4, etc.. and that is very good. They should remain with their beautiful graphics and stupid games that are not their own.
Oh, PC gamers and your silly "settings." Never knowing if you'll get the full package right out of the box. While my "6 year old console" (funny, since the new xbox hardware I have came out last year...) plays the game just fine. Its like comparing blue ray to DVD. Yeah, PC version will have better graphics. But seriously, its not as big of a gap as you people try to make it out to be...
LOL .... "Naughty Dawg", "Epic", "Crytek" and "Id Soft" blabbering a lot about how good their embarrassing graphics, but they forget, they just compete on mediocre systems (Consoles) which is the same system since I'm accepted into the college about 6 years ago... :P. But "DICE" and "CD Projekt" trying to prove they could made an outstanding breakthrough on "unexplored" PC market :P (Now that's what I called "cutting-edge".)
Were they JUST basing this on the PC beta? The PS3 beta was REALLY lacking in details. It looks like the PC version was the ONLY one they were worried about... If the PS3 version looks like sh%^ then who's going to want to play it?
I hope that the setting still have as low as 1280 x 720 with high setting, my laptop is currently able to play Bad Company 2 DX10 with that setting chunk up without suffering any lag. That's as far as my laptop as I can push too without affecting game performance, hoping Battlefield 3 FROSTBITE engine still have lenience to such limited hardware out there, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE
@anshumansinghr It looks great. I don't think Dice is going to spend the extra time making different maps so you can justify how much money you spent on your computer. The Xbox 360 and PS3 have the same hardware as when they launched, you don't need to make jokes about "which has evolved more". The people who have had the same PC since the 360 came out without modifying it haven't "evolved" so stop talking about the PC like it's a universal platform with everyone getting free progression. And you idiots making judgements about the graphics based on a 720p video with massive compression are talking out your ass.
i run it on ultra-30+ fps with my GTX 460 ! though it doesnt fit the recommended requirements for the game ! which is weird :S
They should have a separate map version on PC with DirectX 11,just to show how much the PC has evolved than the XBox360 and PS3. Please dont screw the graphics just to compensate the Consoles. Pls Pls!!!!!!
no different, look like Crysis 2 when u change the setting from high to ultra(except if u add DX11 patch)
wow, honestly I didn't even see a difference in the graphics, maybe the shadows look a bit different but that's all I noticed. That's how good this engine is, it still looks good even on low settings.
@ CryTech I think he was going for "aging computers" not "Asian computers". Just poor pronunciation.
"But even folks with asian computers, definitely wont be playing a second grade version of Battlefield 3, when it comes out on October 25th"
Supersackboy23 is the reason why I hate pc games...you should try this one game called super grammar checker2k12
They'll need to redo this video when the game comes out. The Beta was locked at medium settings. The high and ultra settings were not enabled (except anti-aliasing and AF). Also, special features like Tessellation were totally removed for the beta.
@Aroshtar lol if they had an asian computer it would max out the game and serve them drinks and food while playing.
@zanelli I guarentee a 8800 GTX can not run this game smoothly +40FPS with all the settings to the max.
You can't fully appreciate how much better it is looking if the video is only in 720p. You need to be seeing it 1:1 in 1080p. The game does look beautiful maxed settings.
No Gamespot, of course I can't tell the difference because your "high definition" video quality sucks.