Zelda producer on Wii U game -- "It's going well"

Eiji Aonuma speaks positively about upcoming Wii U Zelda game, says it will use GamePad in "various ways"; wants to shake up series with new game.

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Development on the upcoming Wii U Legend of Zelda game is "going well," series producer Eiji Aonuma told 4Gamer in a new interview translated by Siliconera.

"It’s going well!” Aonuma said, explaining that the new game will use the Wii U GamePad in "various ways." None of these were specified.

Also in the interview, Aonuma was asked about his recent comment that he is "tired" of making Zelda games. This quote was misinterpreted, he said, because he really meant he is tired of making games based on the same formula.

“When I say I’m tired, I’m not talking about making Zelda, but rather, the same constituent that has been used to make Zelda up until now," Aonuma said. "While on the subject, in regard to how we’ve always done things the traditional way until now: ‘Why does it have to be traditional?’ That’s the question I’ve been asking myself.”

“If we don’t change that, we can’t make something new. We’re slightly approaching The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds with that mindset, and also the next Zelda title, which we intend to continue changing," he added. "However, this brings us to the topic, ‘Exactly what is The Legend of Zelda about?”

Aonuma said that something that is "traditional" is something that, in a sense, copies from the work that came before it. By continuing to do this, a franchise's uniqueness can fade away, he said.

"So, by no means, am I tired of it,” Aonuma said. “Rather, the more we change it, the more I get fired up. Having someone think ‘Huh? Is this Zelda?!’ at first, then ‘Oh, it is Zelda,’ is what we’re going for. Something that wouldn't make it matter whether Link or Princess Zelda appear in it or not. Something where it wouldn't even matter if Zelda is actually a princess, or not.”

Aonuma will discuss the Legend of Zelda series during a New York Comic Con panel next week in New York City.

Discussion

494 comments
Puck269
Puck269

So, basically... this article is about one sentence and then goes about rehashing an earlier interview and article with the developer?  Sounds more like a reason just to get hits based on the Zelda Wii U name.

Garm31
Garm31

"It's going well" Says the dev working on a dead console. WiiU in the bargain bit yet? Couldn't be bothered to look in the very, very small WiiU game section of Gamestop.

wexnfx
wexnfx

Hope you get to ride more than one type of animal.

dariusq
dariusq

I've wondered what it would be like if Zelda adopted some of the open world aspects from GTA. There could be a lot of potential for a sandbox-esque Hyrule. Not that the games don't already have some similarities but furthering them might be worth the R&D.

Timmy_Gwar
Timmy_Gwar

My beloved childhood moments with Nintendo are, today, just that. 

With the reviews of the new Pokemon games coming out, I just realized that Nintendo is the only company that hasn't matured with me. All I wanted years ago was a 3d console version of the Pokemon games (those who know what I'm talking about probably wanted the same). At this point, reading stuff like this, hearing how they communicate now with the western markets, I'm just moving on. Nintendo has been asked numerous times for one good idea or the other, but they literally just laugh and say "Print that I laughed". Might as well be saying "we would love to make a more in depth Pokemon game, we're just not running out of money yet". They are, however, close to losing money at this point I think.

TL;DR My bitter-sweet resignation as a Nintendo supporter. I am going to follow Reggie Fils-Aims (I think that's how you spell it) shenanigans though, that guy's great.

xeidog69
xeidog69

As positive as the producer may think he sounds, I must admit that im now scared for what we have coming to us with the next Zelda. I personally do not want to start out with the whole damn arsenal unless every stage utises the mechanics for everything cleverly. 

In previous Zeldas we were a new Link from a differant time/dimension that is usually thrust into the adventure by powers beyond ones control "destiny, fate,whatever". You start out with the shirt on your back and basic weaponry and attacks.. as you improve and advance in the story your character grows with you and you become that much more involved, when new items, gameplay mechanics are introduced your ready for it as you have had time to master the other aspects of the game.  

Here I was hoping that they would have followed the direction of the tech demo they had on display so long ago. Souped up HD visuals and teen/adult link ...

Rennik_Repotsir
Rennik_Repotsir

I will buy a WiiU for this...Just thinking what they will use the Utab for peeks my interest.

commanderxp90
commanderxp90

I'm saving $$$ for buying new Zelda Wii U bundle this month I hope I would be able to make it.

matthova
matthova

Zelda is one of the great franchises....I have played almost all of them. Ocarina Classic, ALTTP classic.......TP seems too ....idk drawn out and long. I do admit Zelda could use some different elements in it. I mean they all start out about the same. Link is a nobody, who gets a sword and shield.......goes up against big time bosses, then Ganon(usually) and finds himself talking to Zelda at the end.

Diegoctba
Diegoctba

And what about that remake of A Link to the Past? I never played (i know, i suck), it would be awesome if Nintendo make this happen.

bluefox755
bluefox755

They just wanna modernize it guys, ya know...like Call of Duty.

grove12345
grove12345

What makes a zelda game a zelda game is its specific charm/game mechanics. Start changing things and its no longer zelda. If i was this guy i would of been tired myself as im sure most developers dont want to be type cast so to speak

Avi-Sama
Avi-Sama

Whoa whoa whoa... I'm all for changing a few things here and there in LoZ but Aonuma's comment about it not mattering if Zelda or Link aren't in a Zelda game... I have to say that is some bullsh*t.

I can handle and enjoy a game with no Zelda (Majora's Mask) and I can handle a game with no Ganondorf (again, Majora's Mask and Skyward Sword) and I can even handle Zelda not being a princess (Skyward Sword again) but a Zelda game with no Link? No, I don't think so.

SirApathetic005
SirApathetic005

I love what Aonuma says here, but then when other game corporations and companies try to follow suit, everyone just hates them for it. For example: FFXIII. In an attempt to modernize the turn-based battle system, they get flamed instead of encouraged to make improvements by their own fanbase.

There's a risk that comes with change, and it's called "ignorant fans that 'love' change but appreciate every new release of Call of Duty more than any game that attempts to change for the better." I hope Aonuma is cautious.

TweekzAlot34
TweekzAlot34

So many idiots on here just looking to troll nintendo

RG923
RG923

Aonuma's comments are very encouraging. The series needs some fresh ideas and some reinvigorated thinking, not just some gimmicky motion controls or a new coat of paint. Think outside the box in terms of how to make a Zelda game--how to restyle the format of dungeons, of items, of pacing, of stories. That's what the series needs.

shannybaybay
shannybaybay

what we need is zelda open world in HD on the scale of a skyrim. main story with a million and 1 side quests. give us all the history of the place with in-game literature and sh!t

fadersdream
fadersdream

@Garm31 Knock it, feel free.

There is a larger Wii section than a WiiU section.

And Wii games are still selling at a higher price... not a good sign.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Garm31 

That Vita section ain't much bigger and it's been out a full year longer because you know, that's kind of the case with new consoles, can't really expect a whole corner filled with games. 

Remind me again how "dead" the PS3 was the first 18 months it was out?

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Timmy_Gwar 
"but they literally just laugh and say "Print that I laughed"." 

You do realize that was when he was asked about a Majora's Mask remake.

"
They are, however, close to losing money at this point I think."

Actually they posted a profit, despite low Wii U sales. 

"
I just realized that Nintendo is the only company that hasn't matured with me."

I ask this, why should Nintendo wrap themselves around what YOU want? They've always been about making their games have universal appeal and they're going to change that because their original fans grew up. I can ask, "Why does Pixar still do family oriented 3D movies? I'm a grown man, I deserve something more adult-themed from them!" but that's stupid since there's PLENTY of other sources. Nintendo games actually appeal to me more now as an adult more than when I was a kid because I wasn't as open-minded or as self-assured as I am now. 

xeidog69
xeidog69

In addition, as awesome as being able to visit any dungeon in any order sounds and figuring out your progression like in the original game and alttp.

One must consider that even in those games you may not be able to go very far in certain dungeons unless you obtain this item or this weapon, Then when finally finding said items you remember those road blocks and go back to clear them eagerly wanting to know what lies on the other side. everytime one approached a chest they would light up with anticipation for what may be inside as it may be the key to unlocking another area or secret in the game.

This has always been one element of Zelda that should not be messed with, why are MMO games so popular? Gear and Progression, Gear and progression.. The same can be said for Zelda, even if open world it should have barriers which require something special to get past which in turn makes the progression far more rewarding.

Timmy_Gwar
Timmy_Gwar

@matthova Your exemplifying the problem that Aonoma is speaking to I think. As a kid, OOT hands down. Nowadays that I'm an adult? TP actually turned into my favourite. Not for story, for imagery and the fact that it was more in-line with the age of a long time Zelda fan in terms of maturity. Oh and they nailed Hyrule Field for me, its important.

The problem is that Aonoma might actually have some really, really good game ideas mechanic wise from his experience, but if he changes it, Nintendo with get scolded by fans that seek the comfort of "another Zelda game". Not that it matters to me at this point, Nintendo is like a fondly remembered but crazy ex.

Maxwrobinson
Maxwrobinson

@Diegoctba There was a re-release for GBA (with extras). I would also assume they've got it on virtual console. Just trust me and play it. It is timeless, the graphics are pretty, and it will likely not get a remake.

GSJones1994
GSJones1994

@Diegoctba They have made a sequel to ALTTP though that plays just like it. It's called A Link Between Worlds. It should be out around black friday.

forrestcupp
forrestcupp

@Avi-Sama I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure he was just making a point about how he wants to change it up. There will be a Link and a Zelda, but things will be a lot different. About Zelda not being a princess, I'm kind of reminded of Wind Waker.

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@Avi-Sama i don't mind if it were no link, but had the sorta same feel to the the previous games. 

like an ancestor or something like that to link. or if link is worked into the mythos of the game.

> wii u

GSJones1994
GSJones1994

@TweekzAlot34 I know. It hasen't even been a month since Hiroshi Yamauchi's death and people still like to take a dump on Nintendo.

Mariner32
Mariner32

@vI_DigiTaL_Iv I can't quite agree with that. It's not necessarily so simple as not buying it if you don't like it, mostly because I don't think that everyone complaining about Nintendo dislikes Nintendo or their franchises. I'm sure some of the people who are complaining are merely doing so to appear hip because it's rather trendy to bash Nintendo at the moment for some reason. However, I'd wager some of the people who are complaining are doing so because they truly enjoy the games and want to see them evolve and improve.

You call your self a "true fan" and justify that by saying you still play all the systems and will buy 2 or 3, but I think the hallmark of a true fan would be one's ability to see and admit the failings of what they profess to love. A true fan wouldn't blindly buy up system after system or game after game and tell the critics to toss off, but would realize that nothing is perfect and that there is always room for improvement.

snxx
snxx

@shannybaybay Eh, I don't think that's a good idea. Let the Elders Scrolls be Elder Scrolls and let the Zeldas be Zelda.

Ever heard someone saying that too much of something, of anything, is never good? I agree. I prefer my games to last me some 30 or 40 (maybe even 50), hours than 150, that way I can explore , four, five or six different worlds, stories and gameplay in the same time Skyrim players only got to experience one.

Timmy_Gwar
Timmy_Gwar

@Diegoctba @bluefox755 The two liking your comment don't honestly think he's serious? How would they even make an apple into an orange? Think before you get trolled. A message from concerned children's advertisers.

Avi-Sama
Avi-Sama

Aren't all Link's descendants of Link anyway?

Ah well, to each their own I guess. If there was no Zelda or Link, might as well call it something else. I would probably play the game... but I probably wouldn't enjoy it because I'd be biased in favor of the "old formula" lol

xeidog69
xeidog69

@corrus @SirApathetic005 gamers like changes, but you dont mess with the Core. change the environments, change the villain, change the time/space .. but do not go overhauling the things that make up the games Core...

Link should always be in the games because in all honesty Link himself has been in few of them in essence. Its more like Link is reincarnated as another person within each game, so in actuality hes a differant person in every game yet his Core"Soul" Is Link as hes forced into events beyond his control and must overcome obstacles beyond measure, Usually maturing as the game plays out and the player advances into the story progression. By the end of the story the main protagonist has become Legendary. 

SirApathetic005
SirApathetic005

@corrus Yes, and it's weird to see so many people appreciate what he says below...because that number of people seems to almost completely disappear whenever any new game releases that contains a number of changes.

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

@Mariner32 @vI_DigiTaL_Iv The thing is according to these critics the playstation is perfect but it rally is not there is room for a lot of improvement on sony systems but they won't bother doing it because idoits blindly buy into there stuff so that they don't need to improve on it because they are going to buy it any way,

de-astroturfer
de-astroturfer

@Mariner32 @vI_DigiTaL_Iv Well said in the long run fanboyism and astroturfing really is to the detriment of the company in question, rather than to convince others that the product is perfect and all criticism should be ignored, the end result is a company insulated from public opinion, left scratching their heads as to why sales are falling

snxx
snxx

@shannybaybay Bigger, Skyrim scale, plus "a million and 1 side quests", that's what you were talking about, and it was well understood and replied on that basis. :)