Yoshida: Gaikai could stream to PCs, tablets, and smartphones

Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida says "ultimate goal" is to use Gaikai technology to deliver PlayStation games to "all devices."

Sony's Gaikai technology could be used one day to stream PlayStation games to devices like PCs, tablets, and smartphones, according to Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida.

"Speaking of the ultimate goal, we would like to deliver PlayStation games to all devices," Yoshida told Dengeki Online (translated by DualShockers). "So we're considering various things like PC, TVs, Blu-ray players, smartphones, and tablets. We hope to continue to expand not only to Sony devices, but even to devices other than Sony's. This is still being studied."

Sony acquired Gaikai in June 2012 for $380 million. During Sony's E3 2013 media briefing this summer, the company announced that the cloud-gaming technology would roll out in 2014 beginning on the PlayStation 4, before arriving later on the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Vita.

According to Yoshida, Sony's investment in cloud-gaming highlights the company's ambition to evolve PlayStation over time from a hardware platform alone to more of a service.

"We previously spoke about PlayStation going from hardware to something closer to a service, regardless of the device," Yoshida said. "Of course, PlayStation will still be the center, but I think we would like to expand to different things."

The PlayStation 4 launches on November 15 in North America for $400.

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Gamingsince75
Gamingsince75

Ms has recently shows Halo4 streaming on a phone and a tablet so Sony is actually really behind in this area.

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

if sony go through with this, microsoft is going to look like even bigger assholes. no backward compatibility and the cheak of microsoft to say "if you want to play xbox 360 games, keep your xbox 360".

What about when the xbox 1million comes out (will never happen, I predict in the next 30 years microsoft will be out of the game). are they going to expect them to have another 999,999 consoles stacked underneath it?

theKSMM
theKSMM

This is undoubtedly the single most exciting thing coming out of Sony IMHO.

I was a skeptic about streaming games until I tried OnLive, and since then I've been hooked.  (And yes, I still play games on OnLive...if you have the bandwidth and like PC games, it's a great value.)  I'm still wishing that Microsoft would buy OnLive, but in the meantime, Sony's purchase of Gaikai is the next-best thing for seeing how such a service might thrive with enough financial backing.

This opens up worlds of possibilities where not only can we have cross-platform gaming, but where maybe the platform becomes irrelevant.  Sure it would be nice to have PS3 games on the PS4, but how about PS4 games on the PS3?  Imagine being able to tap the whole PS catalog going back through the PS2 and PS1.  Games that don't require controllers might be great for a tablet.  I'd gladly play Parappa the Rapper on a smartphone.  And I can only imagine how PSVita sales could skyrocket if you can play games from any PlayStation Platform on them.

As has been stated, the graphical fidelity of streaming doesn't match local play, but that may only bother the pixel-whores out there.  In my experience with OnLive, games look like PC games played at about medium settings.  But that's a sacrifice I could deal with if it means I can play Destiny on my Vita at my parents' house.

FF_XPert
FF_XPert

@theKSMM "if you have the bandwidth". Because if you don't - f**k off.

Chrypt22
Chrypt22

Streaming to phones and tablets?  HA!!!! Maybe in 10-15 years.  To play a streamed game in the quality that people would demand would require bandwidth, bandwidth that cell phones certainly don't have.  In order to play a game in HD, with all of the data going across... you are going to need a minimum of a 20 -25 meg connection downstream with at least another 5-10 meg up.  Certainly, its a connection that is available to a lot of people however, in reality, you have other devices on the network and other factors that contribute to latency.  

Its a novel idea... we are just a ways from making it happen.  Anyone that has hopes of streaming their favorite ps3 games.... hope you are ready to shell out some cash for that fiber connection... IF its available to you

theKSMM
theKSMM

@Chrypt22 I can already stream games from OnLive onto my tablet, and that's over a 6 Mbps DSL connection.  It's not as technologically infeasible as you make it sound.

edinko
edinko

I feel sorry for people who fall into the GAIKAI or other streamed games trap by paying for it without trying. Its very poor and very ugly. Great tech thats absolute impossible to use before STar trek times.

Its just an ugly compressed video with blocky compression artifacts and a control lag that makes fast games bascailly unplayable or terrible.

I tried both GAIKAI and ONLIVE and its really ugly. Only if your expectations for a gaming experience is near zero then its servicable at best

bakagami
bakagami

@edinko But I'm sure you'll have us believe that Microsoft's Cloud services are everything we've been promised and more, right?

edinko
edinko

@bakagami @edinko NO. why? If they stream older games it will exactly as bad as gaikai or onlive. There is no way around the compression artifacts and lag. It just a huge PR lie this whole streaming thing.

theKSMM
theKSMM

@edinko I have no experience with Gaikai, but I love OnLive.  With a good connection, it's hard to differentiate from a console game.

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

@edinko iv played onlive on an 8 meg connection and not had any blocky artifacts. it looked a bit low quality, like a 360p youtube video for example but still playable and still reasonable quality. now imagine being on a 100mb connection.

edinko
edinko

@theKSMM @edinko Well that is bad enough bad I saw actually much worse adn its impossible to read small text with this awful picture. TRy civilisation 5. ITs terrible

edinko
edinko

@Aaronp2k @edinko I have a 100mb fiber optics connection and its awful and ugly. Exatly like you said. A 360p youtube video which is unbearable for a 1080p used classic pc gamer . Ugly as sin

dipdish
dipdish

All I want is to play PS3 games on PS4. I hope, it'll be possible for Europe.

theKSMM
theKSMM

@dipdish I hope so too.  I'd even be willing to pay a subscription cost to get access to the whole PS1 + PS2 catalog.

HairyMetalHead
HairyMetalHead

Wouldn't they be shooting themselves in a foot with this a bit? If Playstation games could get streamed to PC there would be no need in buying the consoles.

Is Yoshida planning on a shift of business for Playstation?

gamespotpanayis
gamespotpanayis

@HairyMetalHead I don't think PS4 games are in this mix.. PS1, PS2, maybe PS3 and other older hardware software.

Unfortunately, looking at the very limited success (ok, failures really) of other game streaming companies, I am doubtful if these streaming features will ever be more than a token effort.  I also wouldn't be surprised if they also had a very limited number of titles available for this service.

But.. Sony are a big company, so we can only hope that they can put in the resources to make this work... and keep it going for more than 1 or 2 years!

HowlPendragon
HowlPendragon

@arqe Games. 

If people don't want to spend money on their console then they'll still have this option to buy their games.

bakagami
bakagami

@HairyMetalHead Probably just be for legacy games, just like on the PS4 and Vita using it for backward compatibility 

HowlPendragon
HowlPendragon

@HairyMetalHead Could be, but it seems pretty smart. If they can't make a sale in hardware then at the very least they'll still be making loads off of software sales by spreading them across so many platforms.

The same thing is happening with the PS Vita TV. Its for people who want to play Vita on TV or who don't want a portable console but still want to play the games. Not to mention PS4 streaming.

Plus they'll probably keep the good stuff for PS4 and Vita, like PS Plus games only redeemable on there and such.

theKSMM
theKSMM

@HairyMetalHead I think this is a case where they figure that a small sale is better than no sale.

With streaming to other devices, they eliminate the $400 entry cost of buying a PS4 (or other console).  And they can do fancy things like "rent" the games (e.g. $10 for a week of play) or even offer monthly subscriptions.  The latter would be great for Sony because it would give them a regular, predictable revenue stream.

I figure that the superior gaming experience will still be with the hardcore faithful on their consoles, but this gives them the option to reach more people who aren't ready to make such a large investment.

HairyMetalHead
HairyMetalHead

@theKSMM @HairyMetalHead It's a very good thing, just seems to undermine the hardware sales. 

Then again, the stuff they make most profit on is software. This would lower the hardware losses and increase software profits. 

 Seems like a pretty good business decision. Does this mean Sony will take the same route as SEGA though?

arqe
arqe

You guys keep dream on. Gaikai is not even avaliable for Playstation Family yet and they dont even know when they can implement the service. And they are thinking to implement system for other devices. Dream on .... 2040 - 2050 is the best guess.

HowlPendragon
HowlPendragon

@arqe Well like @pupi0828 said, its still in its fledgling stages of development.

Sure it's probbaly gonna suffer a bit near launch but it can only get better from there.

And I'm pretty sure Comcast & Google Fiber offer some of the best speeds made available to average consumers in the world, so that's probably why.

pupi0828
pupi0828

@arqe It was usable a year or more ago. There was open beta and stuffs like that. I was able to try out by myself on PC. And it was kinda astonishing. I don't think it is only a wild dream to be able to use it from any devices.

I have also tried onlive and that is far more behind Gaikai.

arqe
arqe

@pupi0828 I dont think it was successful. If it was why after their announcement they said its "Not Avaliable , we will launch Gaikai in US first" and there is no announcement for EU or Asia. 

Because they said "EU's internet connection SUCKS" remember ? I dont see this will be better than onLive. Maybe in 10 years ...

Cyberjin
Cyberjin

@arqe didn't you see Gaikai being used some years back before sony bought them? you could play via your browser, even on some smart TVs had it

pupi0828
pupi0828

@arqe @pupi0828 Cause maybe they plan a regional release for testing purposes. 

As @HowlPendragon said it is still in testing. 

Btw It was usable out of US. And I can tell you from europe i was able to play on it with a decent degree of gaming experience. I don't think it will take 10 years to roll it out for the entire world, on the other hand the costs for it is pretty much questionable. 

Also Gaikai got supported by a ton of developers and companies that should have a reason.

soulless4now
soulless4now

Cool. I'm not getting a ps4 for some years so hopefully all the kinks will be worked out by then. 

pupi0828
pupi0828

@soulless4now I hardly believe that ps4 exclusive titles will be released for gaiakai to be streamed on other devices.

baxwam
baxwam

SO Dose it mean. Its possible to play GoW , Uncharted, Killzone legally  on a PC someday?!V

haze0986
haze0986

@baxwam i have trouble believing it will be so simple for sony to do that. on pc that is, im sure microsoft would enforce something preventing it until the end user pays a price on top of sonys price. i can see it coming to mac maybe, even linux with the right coding

bakagami
bakagami

@haze0986 @baxwam No, MS cannot restrict the internet.   They already went before the DOJ for restricting competing technologies 

DIGN
DIGN

Gaikai on the Vita? Finally we get some news other than the PS Vita downgrades.

Cyberjin
Cyberjin

the Playstation brand is growing very big :D

mr_nee
mr_nee

Just as I predicted -- this is a seperate business line

Sun-Tzu-GE
Sun-Tzu-GE

Could be cool...That way PC gamers can stop living in denial when games like "The last of us" or "Beyond:2 souls" come out and they can finally play them without needing a console.Though I have a feeling that a large percentage of them still won't be able to play those games because they're pirates and it would kill them to pay for a game.

Cloud_imperium
Cloud_imperium

@Sun-Tzu-GE Keep that mainstream garbage . I own PS3 , TLOU is so overrated , AI is so dumb . B2S .? I don't know what to say about that .

Sun-Tzu-GE
Sun-Tzu-GE

@Cloud_imperium @Sun-Tzu-GE No,it's not overrated.When you play every game with a review score over 7 like I do,regardless of what genre it is,you tend to be a good judge of the quality of a game.And TLOU is the best game I've played this year.

Cloud_imperium
Cloud_imperium

@Sun-Tzu-GE @Cloud_imperium It's great but it's far away from being perfect . I had save problem at launch too . I upgraded the game but my progress was lost . I think 8/10 is good score for it , worth playing . Not a system seller in my opinion .

Sun-Tzu-GE
Sun-Tzu-GE

@smalecpsi @Sun-Tzu-GE @Cloud_imperium That's cool but I really hated bioshock.I expected much more from it and the only thing I kind of liked about it was the ending because it made me still think about it for an hour after I played it.

troll_eat_troll
troll_eat_troll

@Sun-Tzu-GE @Cloud_imperium"That way PC gamers can stop living in denial when games like "The last of us" or "Beyond:2 souls" come out and they can finally play them without needing a console."