Xbox World to reveal next-gen details in new issue - Report

The magazine will reportedly use its penultimate issue to reveal details about the next-gen Xbox; the console is said to include Kinect 2.0, Blu-ray discs, and more.

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The penultimate issue of Xbox World magazine will reportedly reveal new details about Microsoft's new Xbox console, according to CVG.

Get ready for more details about the new Xbox.

The magazine's editor reportedly told the site that the next-generation Xbox will most likely be called "Xbox" instead of "Xbox 720", and will ship with 8GB of RAM and a quad-core processor.

Other details about the new console that will reportedly be revealed by Xbox World include Kinect 2.0, Blu-ray discs, directional audio, a TV output and input, an "innovative" controller, and the possibility of augmented-reality (AR) glasses to be used at a later stage in the new console's life.

Microsoft has not officially confirmed that it is at work on a new console, but speculation about the new Xbox has been circulating for some time. In June, a 56-page document allegedly from Microsoft indicated that the company is planning to launch an Xbox 720 in 2013 at $299. An updated version of the Kinect was to be included, and AR glasses support would be added sometime after launch. The document has since been removed at the behest of Microsoft's legal team.

Earlier this month, Microsoft filed a patent for a new tech system designed to monitor viewers while they watch TV.

For more speculation regarding Microsoft's next home console, check out GameSpot's rumour roundup feature.

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429 comments
Style11
Style11

Problem with PCs in Gaming that we actually have powerfull GPUs and Good CPUs that a lot better than Current Generation Consoles ...

So, Why GTX 580 which is more powerful than NextGeneration Consoles  still cannt play every game at 60FPS on MAX and 1080P ,,, I know that on paper that GPU is monster ...

I think that Developers are too lazy to get benefit out of current high end cards ,,, they may only utilize less than 30% of their abilities !!!

If this problem solved, I think we only need 8800 Ultra to maximize every game on this generation without  AA at 720P !!!

Style11
Style11

wish that their a developer that can eliminate the wast of resources

on PCs games ...

But there is a hope in NG consoles ,, because they are PCs but with deferent OS ...

As I remeber the emulation of the first XBOX was so easier compared to PLAYSTATION 2 ....
This may happen in NextGeneration Consoles !!!
Especially with current so fast PC revolution in hardware and the strong upcoming Competition on OSs side ,,, Those factors will make PC future more bright ...

One as I think of Performance drawbacks in PC gaming is Windows enviroment !!
Windows focus mostly on business side not in gaming ,, they should know that we are forced to use windows not Because we like it !!!
It is just because our favourite games are only working on Windows !!!

So I am waiting for  Steam Platform ,, I heared they can port PC games into other OS ...

cantnj690
cantnj690

All I can say is the Xbox better have more than 4 cores at this point, otherwise Sony will have a huge advantage over Microsoft with its 8 core architecture.


strothers101
strothers101

$300 dollars in the states ... so that will be $80,000 where I live in Aus then, sounds reasonable.

lucastcorrea
lucastcorrea

"Innovative controller"... Oh boy... You know where this will go...

thequickshooter
thequickshooter

300$??! whow that's very nice of you microsoft 

but how can it be?

PS4 is planning on release to be a 600$ console 

 

so is it because of the competettion?

pcty
pcty

I wonder what the release price will be.

jark888
jark888

I wish that Kinect tech is not used to videotape us and send it back to Microsoft. 

Smart move for Bluray disc support and high spec upgrade.

Rivboets7
Rivboets7

Nice blu ray and 8gbs of RAM.

victorlamy
victorlamy

8 fucking gb ram O_o?

 

the wii u only has 1 for games. if this is true then i can see high end 09 gear on both the upcoming consoles. (or am i totally wrong)

DarthLod
DarthLod

Yes, because worthless motion sensing is so important.

ConorS79
ConorS79

I won't be buying it anyway. My 360 had to get repaired 4 times. Rings of death. (not like i was a heavy user). Very frustrating. I'll let Microsoft know how unhappy i am by not buying their new machine.

Borrizee
Borrizee

Let us just wait,there is always a lot of talk but I want to see first and then start the discussion.

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

lol and sony once again last to the party

SolanOcard
SolanOcard

Look, I know nothing about computers. Hardware is everything when it comes to the longevity of a console. People think Nintendo are painting themselves into a corner by courting hardcore gamers with current gen specs and failing them down the line when the 720/Durango and PS4 hit the market with overwhelming technical power. WIth multi processor technology, and multi threading yada yada... why can't processing power be upgraded along the way? So the 720 will have Quad Core, with 8GB of Ram total. If the ability currently exists to run a device with multiple processors, why can't these devices be fitted with additional processors down the line? The WiiU would have benefited from this model by being cheaper now and technologically on par with its competitors, and being capable of expanded capability down the line to remain competitive. I am sure there are technological challenges to this approach, but they seem surmountable, easily so with current tech.

kidnatural
kidnatural

I'm all for a new Xbox. That said, my PRIMARY hope is that they don't sacrifice raw power for a Kinect 2.0, in hopes to keep the costs down. I'm fine with a quad-core, and 8gb RAM on a console, since they're more optimized for gaming in the general sense.

It still won't be as powerful as my PC, but I couldn't care less. I don't expect nor want a home console to be released at a $1,000+. Online would be horrible for it for far too long. For starters, how many people have that kind of money to throw around for a difficult-to-mod proprietary home console gaming device? 

Fayt0
Fayt0

Uh-oh. Blueray. Will PS3 owners finally shut up about it now, or will they still pick on Microsoft users for "Doing it first"?

sk8oridie44
sk8oridie44

I will guarantee everyone that the next gen will not be as satisfying as we are all hoping it to be. 

wyan_
wyan_

I can hardly wait to read this news. What a relief it will be to have some of the rumors either confirmed or just put to rest.

tgwolf
tgwolf

Well they can take their time, I don't imagine any of their subsequent generations will be any better than the previous and that is pathetic...

Lane_McNair
Lane_McNair

I hope the CPU uses AMD64 instructions instead of that PowerPC crap... except I want good backwards compatibility.

hadlee73
hadlee73

These next-gen consoles are going to need some better cooling options now that they are getting closer to the specs of the PC world. Passive cooling isn't going to cut it, so expect some much noisier consoles.

Style11
Style11

@cantnj690 I still think they will be the same  ,,, both will be 8 cores !!

In fact , if PS4 platform is based on bulldozer ,,, it is not going be perfect on gaming , although it is a monster on multithreading applications ,, it is still below some of intel's Quad Core CPUs (((in most of games ,, NOT ALL )) 

But this situation can changed if developers really want to get the power out

of  bulldozer ,,,

wwervin
wwervin

 @thequickshooter I read they were thinking of having 2 models of the console. One would be a cheap arcade version where all you get is essentially a media machine to play Blu Rays and Arcade games, while the more expensive version will be for the next gen gaming.

 

That would completely bite MS in the ass. Honestly I can see a lot of disappointed kids waking up on Christmas and finding out their new Xbox doesn't even play any of the new games they want. It would just be a complete mess.

wwervin
wwervin

 @victorlamy Most computers nowadays come standard with 8GB of RAM, some with 16. I think this is why the PC gaming community always laughs at us when it comes to video games. We end up with something completely standard and call it "next gen gaming." 

ConorS79
ConorS79

And suddenly they decide to embrace Blu-ray.. I have a HD-DVD add on gathering dust in my living room. I'll never early adopt again. HD-DVD could have won if Microsoft supported it better. It should have been the main player. This switching disc's caper is nonsense.

jark888
jark888

 @jsmoke03 The last is the one who laugh louder. Sony is still the best of the three in my opinion. At least for two reasons: Blu-ray reader and no XboxLive fee.

TTDog
TTDog

 @jsmoke03 Seeing as Nintendo have only just released a console on par with Sony and Microsoft's offerings this generation I'd say they were around 6 or 7 years late joining the current party.

deathstream
deathstream

 @SolanOcard

 Third party publishers are hesitant to support add-ons.  It is really that simple.  Do you make a game for the 10 million System X owners or for the 4 million System X + add-on users.  It will almost always be the former.

 

How many 3rd party Motionplus games are there?

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

 @SolanOcard Your dream above is shared by me and many others.  But just like you intimated technological challenges is overwhelming.

 

It is more than just being able to adding component and being able to play new games. Lets take a look at PC compared to Console.

 

PC- You have two options produce a game that works with as many pc/mac on the market (there by more people who might buy your game), produce a game to a niche market that you know will buy your game. (Usually high end gamers/heatseekers) Tech hurdles are you spend an enormous amount of time and resources making a game that will work with as many different components and specs even if you make a game for high pcs only. "with many pc makers consolidating- this has become easier fewer different components, os more of the same architecture being used." 

 

CONSOLE- A set hardware, software, input, output device that you will not have to worry about changing over the years. Once the studios buy their dev kit - you know what you make will work with all the machines sold. 50-70 million of them. Also consumers usually get a gaming machine at cost or at a loss who would never be able to afford higher end gaming pcs, but get to play games that only the highest end pc could play. But here is the problem - you can not change the device or it will confuse or even alienate your consumer base. 

 

Take spiderman for the psone.  It sold millions, one of the best selling games for the psone. But they added some code or something in it that would not allow it to work with some of the oldest models. It scared the shit out of their consumer base- you would think the world coming was coming to an end. Mothers upset, gamers confused, even big enough that the game journalist would have to cover. Cost - nothing could be done about it, refunds by activision. 

Even today take the kinect, psmove - Kinect sold very well penetrated the market well, ps move - not so well. 

While those of us here know the difference between a kinect game and a non kinect game - well the service calls on why this 50-60$ kinect game will not work on my machine (non-kinect) is alot. And also many a mother wondering why all the games my kid wants does not use the kinect at all. 

 

PC is more flexible but still limiting. You make a pc capable of playing skyrim (skyrim was made for next gen console specs btw and devs pissed the console makers didn't get the machines out by now) full HD super high settings costing 1k easy. Well you are in the minority very few of the population has that kinda machine. Still you know those that do will buy your game.  Can not compete with farmville, that almost every pc can play. You get the picture. 

 

The sega genesis I believe had a 32 mb adapter or 16mb adapter that would allow a few new games to work with better colors and graphics. Needless to say it didn't sell well because of the same problems. Not enough of them sold to bother making a game specifically for it, confused consumer who did not buy. 

 

So the only way nintendo could make a console that could be upgradeable would be to require its base to buy the upgrade when it came out. Not gonna happen.

You know the only thing i can think of that worked was the ps one dual shock controller- new games supported it - but you could still play those games even if you didn't have one. Even if consoles did that with processors, the complicated backward compatibility would be huge cost many would not be able to take on. 

 

Zloth2
Zloth2

 @kidnatural

 Yeah, 4 cores and 8 gigs should be OK.  It's mostly the graphics chip that worries me.  NVIDIA-style PhysX really works well but I don't know if this AMD CPU/GPU combo thing is going to be able to do stuff like that.

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

 @sk8oridie44 I will guarantee that everyone will be just as happy and just as sad with the next gen as they have with all the other generations before it. I still think the 32 bit psone, nin 64 or the fifth gen was the best or most innovative one. Others feel the xbox with online was the best.  There will be people happy and people who wish games were like the good ole days. I see no reason why this next gen will not be just fine. 

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

 @Lane_McNair That is why devs keep saying that it is so hard to develop for sony systems at the start - since asia and western developers use different tools, coding, and such. 

I just hope they leave alot room for as many developers to implement their graphics engines and toolsets as possible. 

 

I agree with lane- hope it is easy as pie to bring some old xbox games ported to the new consoles as well as old 360 games. 

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

 @hadlee73 Hey did you know the dreamcast used a water cooling system. Matter of fact a power line to my house caused a power surge and I watched the lights in the house get really bright and steam shoot out of my dreamcast before everything went off. Was playing resident evil CV - still terrified to this day. 

consoles will just have to be bigger, yes more noise for a while also. And no more using lead free solder. 

eyeball2452
eyeball2452

 @hadlee73 You haven't built a pc recently have you.  MS could've used a better, quiet cooling system in this generation and chose not, probably for price reasons.

Lane_McNair
Lane_McNair

Not necessarily; I have a couple of after-market air coolers in my pc (one for my GPU, one for my CPU) and they're quite silent. Also, I don't think that any recent console has had passive cooling.

BlackBaldwin
BlackBaldwin

   @thequickshooter

 Like the 2 hour WiiU update problem that leaves the HD almost used up...  I feel sorry for those kids this coming Christmas...

Jd234
Jd234

@wwervin @victorlamy you sir are correct 8 gb of ram is sad for so called next gen I was so sad dissappointed when i read only 8 gb of ram considering ram is so cheap compared to everything else

BlackBaldwin
BlackBaldwin

 @wwervin  

You must be talking high end gaming computers because I work in retail and the highest right now for a economic computer I seen is 6 plus 150 dollars for the 8gig ram....

 

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

 @TTDog except they aren't trying to compete graphically

 

SolanOcard
SolanOcard

 @deathstream I get what you are saying. I ignored the hard drive add on for my PS2. I ignored the motion + for the Wii, I ignored Kinect for my 360. But if I had a console that could have the processor upgraded, I would be all over that. Who wouldn't do it? It would be like getting a new console (in terms of processing power) for a fraction of the cost). It would be the smart thing for Nintendo to do at least, because Casual gamers have short attention spans, and when the 720 and PS4 get released and have time to infiltrate homes, the Wii U will only be a few years old, and will be neglected by hardcore and casual alike. unless they could upgrade.

y3ivan
y3ivan

 @Zloth2  @kidnatural how sure its going to be the next gen console? if you actually check XW mag, you will doubt that is even next gen console. 

 

It looked like a xbox media box, which explains the new name "xbox"

y3ivan
y3ivan

 @jenovaschilld  @hadlee73 those are not water cooled. It uses heatpipes like most console and notebooks. In fact they are still used in x360 and ps3 (1st &2nd revisions).

 

Heatpipes are a lot better than water cool tubes as it transfer heat much faster and efficient, hence smaller radiator/heat sink. The only drawback, its not flexible and requires specialities tools and expertise. 

hadlee73
hadlee73

 @jenovaschilld I think the Dreamcast had a heatpipe system rather than actual water cooling. Loved that console.

hadlee73
hadlee73

 @eyeball2452 Actually I build PCs all the time. My point was, as you've already stated, that the next-gen consoles could be noisy because cheap cooling solutions will be used.  I prefer water cooling systems myself but I'm not counting on getting any of that action with a console :P

Jd234
Jd234

@BlackBaldwin @wwervin  lol thats a joke my computer has 24 gbs of ram ive bin a console/pc gamer all my life starting with super nintendo when i was 8 16 gb of ram is like 80 bucks

TTDog
TTDog

@jsmoke03: Obviously... they're trying to compete Gimmickly... and in the process they've alienated millions and millions of gamers.

victorlamy
victorlamy

 @jsmoke03  @TTDog only lil retards think graphics as the main improvement when upgrading.

 

games like bf3 and skyrim isnt made with wii level hardware

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

 @SolanOcard  @deathstream I would love to drop in a new processor or ram or video card into a console just like you could a pc, but there in lies the problem. Making a game for a system with quad core 3.1 and a dual core 2.4 is almost like making a pc game that has to downgrade its graphics, it is prohibitively expensive. 

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

 @hadlee73 well at least water based.  Sato chose the Hitachi SH4 CPU architecture and VideoLogic's PowerVR2 graphics processing unit, manufactured by the Japanese company NEC. "The first version of the Dreamcast was water-cooled; they had a non-moving part, water-based cooling system. It was called Dural," said former Charles Bellfield, former Sega VP of communications (1998-2000) and VP, strategy & corporate affairs (2000-2003)."

Still pretty cool. 

hadlee73
hadlee73

 @y3ivan  @eyeball2452 No leakage these days, although my earlier days of experimenting with water cooling wasn't always successful :)

y3ivan
y3ivan

 @hadlee73  @eyeball2452 hopefully there isnt any leakage. Seriously dont expect regular consumers to use a radiator for the consoles, they are more likely to break it.