Xbox's Phil Spencer Says He's Not Mad at Bungie After Alignment With PlayStation for Destiny

"No, not at all," Spencer says. "Just want them to build a great game."

Not so long ago, Microsoft owned Bungie, and the acclaimed developer's Halo titles were released on consoles only for the Xbox platform. But so much has changed. Bungie has since regained its independence with Destiny, and has aligned closely with Sony for the upcoming sci-fi shooter. An alpha for the game was available only on PlayStation consoles, this month's beta will kick off first on PlayStation, and Sony will even offer a special Destiny PS4 bundle. There's also a possibility that copies of Destiny will come pre-loaded with PS4 systems starting this fall.

It's enough to think that Microsoft might be ticked off that Bungie for aligning so closely with the platform holder's biggest, most direct competitor. But that's not the case, according to Head of Xbox Phil Spencer. Asked by a fan on Twitter if he was mad at Bungie, Spencer replied, "No, not at all. Just want them to build a great game."

This is not the first time the matter of Bungie reportedly favoring Sony over Microsoft for Destiny has come up. In late April, Bungie denied such a claim, with community manager David Dague saying, "If you're a gamer who wants to play a Bungie game, you're very much on our mind--every day." This fan asked if Bungie would "give a nod to your Xbox fan base or just keeping ignoring them?" Dague said in response, "Who's ignoring you?"

Destiny launches September 9 for Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4. A beta begins July 17 for PlayStation consoles, before coming to Xbox later in the month. To release Destiny, Bungie has partnered with mega-publisher Activision Publishing, which believes the game could be its third billion-dollar franchise, joining the likes of Call of Duty and Skylanders.

For more on Destiny, be sure to read GameSpot's previous coverage, including our hands-on time with the game's head-to-head competitive multiplayer mode from E3.

Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and you can follow him on Twitter @EddieMakuch
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Relvar
Relvar

I miss the old (Myth days) Bungie - they were such a great company before Halo....

Gankstar_VX84
Gankstar_VX84

Bungie should of kept Destiny Xbox 1 exclusive. I don't see why PS4 has to get it. as it stands it looks like Halo I don't see why any self respecting PS4 owner gives even the remotest of fucks.

dannydopamine8
dannydopamine8

What else would he say? lol


"Bungie is sooo not invited to my next birthday party"

watchdogsrules
watchdogsrules

we all know this guy is furious because PS4 is beating Xbox one and Xbox owns Bungie and Bungie made a game that will be released for PS3 and PS4, the system that is beating him badly.

gunnmetal
gunnmetal

we still get the game so why should i be mad not like il purchase this day one. 

GrenadeLauncher
GrenadeLauncher

Better tell the fanbase of your disaster console that, Phil, they're still furiously buttmad Bungie DARE betray them!

mav_destroyer
mav_destroyer

Wouldn't the same apply for Sony and Insomniac games? I really don't see a reason why anyone should be mad about it.

Baconelite
Baconelite

Am I the only one who is not excited for this game?

TimberWolf_CLT
TimberWolf_CLT

At least Bungie won't be able to kill off all of the characters in Destiny like they did in Reach.  (I know, MS was most likely involved in that as well.)

Their teaming with Sony makes sense from a business perspective.  Best way to ingratiate (intentional use of the word) themselves to the Sony fan base and introduce themselves.

Nice thing for Phil is he's in the "wasn't me" position of cleaning up after Don "Train-wreck" Mattrick and can afford to play nice.


blue_shift_91
blue_shift_91

wow. so much drama over an alpha & preorder junk.

mattress805
mattress805

This. Long term contract. One of many reason I switched to a ps4 this gen. I got my 360 for other games I can play on the ps4. Microsoft was worrying about Kinect while Sonynwas working on getting games. Microsoft has changed to gaming focused recently but Sony has been working on it more prior to this gen starting. I love my 360 but I feel good with my ps4 purchase. Plus I like to play my games in FULLHD in 2014. http://gamer.blorge.com/2013/06/11/sony-enters-long-term-exclusive-partnership-with-bungie-and-activison-on-destiny/

quincy2000a
quincy2000a

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/22/we-purposefully-did-not-target-the-highest-end-graphics-says-microsoft-3804061/


In my opinion. any company making multiplatform games would have to have a financial death wish if they put all their eggs into the basket of a company that said that.


The company that made that statement obviously did not have gaming as their main focus--so what sense would it make to get in bed with them when there's a more attractive suitor around that might serve your interests better?

dansw4
dansw4

The only shooter I was ever really addicted to where I would play every day for the game's entire life cycles (and then even longer after it) was the first and second Socom games. I'm yet to play any FPS game that isn't repetitive and boring after about 2 months tops. I don't care if it's COD, BF, Halo, and I'm sure this latest Destiny will be no different. They all copy off each others papers and borrow a lot of the same features. After awhile it's like buying the same game with different character skins with just a modern or futuristic sci fi theme. Even the later Socoms went to crap trying to infuse all the FPS features into their game, forcing many that didn't even fit into that style of game. 

As a rule, I will never buy any online only game because the disc becomes a coffee coaster when they decide they don't feel like paying for the server anymore. Every game like those PS 2 Socoms I own I can still pop in and play the SP all these years later and do on occasion. People who bought online only games like Confrontation or Warhawk have a disc that holds no value for keeping or for trading in towards a new game. I think this might start to be a new trend where more and more games go online only even the bigger name shooters because from a business sense they know when your shooter games servers expire you will have to go out and buy new games if you want to continue to play another shooter in any form or fashion, you'll have a dead disc. I do enjoy online play and never played a more addictive game then the online portions of Socom 1 and 2 like I said but yet in some ways I feel like this online era of gaming has hurt gaming in many ways, not where it started or what it was in the early days of the PS 3 and Xbox 360 but what it's evolved into currently.

I think COD becoming as big as it was/ is has also severely hurt the industry with every game now thinking only of dollars and salivating at the chance to be the next COD seller. Far less variety in games these days and a whole bunch of "me too" games. Companies forcing COD features into their shooters and saying they have to do it to make money cause some suit with a graph who never played a video game convinced them it will make them more money. Then of course all the games that do that sell far less copies cause they alienated their fans base with forced changes that don't fit. Then you got the Wall Street attitude coming into the gaming industry because of COD success looking at how to boost profits even more and looking into forcing micro buys like free-to-play games have even though people already paid 60 bucks for their games. The funny thing is the companies that sell the least and could use the help to stay afloat aren't even the ones trying to push those features, it's the damn giants like EA and Activision already making a bigger killing then everyone else in the industry trying to tell people these things are necessary to make money, like they are struggling in any way shape or form without adding that crap. It's just sad where the gaming industry is going. 

Sorry my comment on Destiny turned into a rant on the industry. That wasn't my intention with the first few lines, my fingers just didn't seem to want to stop typing once I got rolling lol.

Skid9999
Skid9999

"no love lost" is an idiom that means the two sides hate each other and make no effort to hide it. The way it's used in this article is confusing. Poke your copy editor with a stick.

80sgamerftw
80sgamerftw

At the end of the day both sides get to play Destiny wether its good or not. Also, both sides get to play Evolve. Who gives a shite  what exclusive skin and gun console makers get.


Man fanboys are the cause for all this exclusive dlc crap. "Alignment this alignment that"

Fursnake
Fursnake

Afterwards he goes home and does unspeakable things to an effigy in the shape of a PS4.

console_war_vet
console_war_vet

And just like that, Phil Spencer Twitterwatch 2014 continues with reckless abandon. Can you guys just embed his Twitter feed on the home page instead of making an article for every tweet? It would save Eddie some time.

semi74
semi74

I just wonder how many fooks I give about Destiny (aka Halo 6 with a copyright namechange force)


aaaahhhaa


None.

kingjugganott
kingjugganott

I wouldn't be salty about. Boring game btw. 

OldDirtyCR
OldDirtyCR

If Phil Spencer said anything else he should've been fired. It's amazing how many people eat this PR crap up. "Oh he's so humble! This is why I chose Microsoft because they are so humble and aren't cutthroat!" 

That whole fan comment is really obnoxious too. "give a nod to your Xbox fan base or just keeping ignoring them". The entitlement is strong with this one. Both consoles are getting the same game. Stuff like a custom console bundle is Microsoft's choice. Oh, you don't get to play in a buggy unfinished lagfest version of the game? The world is ending.

neowarrior793
neowarrior793

i played the alpha and loved it, there was a few problems but overall its a good game. bungie making games for sony is fair there independent now, it makes sense to get your game shown on the better graphical console (note i said console not pc) with a bigger user base (still talking about consoles) its the best way to show off a game. im sure R* chose to showcase on sonys stage for that reason as well. 

strothers101
strothers101

This should get the fanboy fires crackling. Both systems get the same content at the same resolution at the same frames per second...

meatz666
meatz666

That's stupid, since Xbox One will get the exact same game. 

jimbojones69
jimbojones69

@Gankstar_VX84 The reason it's on ps4/ps3 is that Bungie, like MS and every other company is to makes money for it's shareholders. Just so happens that there is a bigger base for PS + Xbox than just Xbox.

I own a ps4 and I'm getting this game. Not sure why this offends you though...All I can think of is buyers remorse?

dani_i89
dani_i89

@vgsatire  I don't know if you're trolling, or you're a PS fan boy and actually believe it...in any case, you deserve a like.

Gankstar_VX84
Gankstar_VX84

@mav_destroyer i think Destiny and Bungie should stay where they belong, Xbox. I don't wanna see theese types of games on PS4.

RevLux
RevLux

@mav_destroyer  Exactly. It's nothing personal between the companies. They are simply making moves that they feel are right for their respective games at that particular time. Bungie already has the love and support of many Xbox gamers. They likely felt it was important to reach out to the Sony player base to ensure a strong launch on every platform. (No doubt money changed hands as well.)

willjohnboy
willjohnboy

@mav_destroyer i agree i mean if bungie made this as a sony exclusive then yes he would be mad because bungie made halo 1-3 and a couple of spinoffs microsoft exclusive he would be like wheres the loyalty and destiny is multiplatform why would he be mad sounds like the journalist who asked him was trying to start a flame war online we all know why bungie has favoured sony they are trying to increase their install base which means more money it's a great business decision 

tauriqm
tauriqm

@Baconelite Nope. Many aren't. I am. That's fine. I'm sure there are games you adore, I'd hate but that's why I'm glad neither of us are Master/Mistress of Games.

cypher_xx
cypher_xx

@TimberWolf_CLT More like MS had nothing to do with it.  And had everything to do with the story of Reach already been established before the game released.  There is a whole universe of Halo out there in books, comics, and shows.

sia89
sia89

@TimberWolf_CLT Actually since they had already said what happened at Reach before they made that game, and that all but 3-4 of the Spartans that were there died, it would have gone against what they said already happened if they didn't kill all of them off. So i doubt MS had anything to do with that.

isane-bishop
isane-bishop

@quincy2000a You know. The head of Xbox have changed. ( to Phil Spencer ) The last one.before him. Was a FOOL!! So! you can HATE all you want!

mike468
mike468

@quincy2000a Nice try posting an article well over a year old.


Also by your same logic, why don't devs just skip consoles all together? Since PCs offer infinity more powerful hardware than what consoles can even hope to offer, and have an install base that beats the combined totals of both next gen systems.

jayjay444
jayjay444

@dansw4 Only, Socom is a THIRD person shooter not a First person shooter, I agree Socom was amazing in it's glory days but iv'e yet to play a game like Halo ce where every play through even to this day is different because it's a sandbox game, Halo CE is still my number one FPS, the only games that come close I Half-life and Quake 3, in terms of shooters anyway.

sia89
sia89

@semi74 The only things Destiny and Halo have in common are: 1. FPS 2. An AI Helper 3. Aliens 4. Your in Powered Armor.... so what makes Destiny Halo 6 with a name change?

xantufrog
xantufrog

@OldDirtyCR I agree. I liked the response to that fan: "who's ignoring you?" is right. Entitled turd, and too stupid to realize that all the Destiny ads with PS4 mentioned were paid for by Sony - Activision and Bungie aren't "ignoring" MS, MS just didn't pay for the attention. And before people use that as a half-baked reason to malign Sony, part of the reason MS didn't is because they are paying for attention with other games like CoD. It's how it works. The companies shell out dough to advertise.

VegasDawg
VegasDawg

@meatz666 AND getting the beta now and it's basically an online game so it will be better on Xbox which has the superior online service, I guess this is click bait for retarded fanBOYs and yes they got my click but I"m no fanBOy 

mattress805
mattress805

I don't have an xbox one but I agree Phil Spender is WAY better than that douchebag Dan Mattrick. His baby was the Kinect. Phil will be cleanin up his mess for another year or two

world4games
world4games

@VegasDawg

superior online service LOL...Xbox live went down 3 times this year.

VegasDawg
VegasDawg

@world4games Lol, like you were sitting there and counting most outages don't even effect the consumer and who else had 300,000 dedicated servers? I can tell that your a little retarded fanBOY, go ask your Mommy if you can have the service then we will talk until then please keep your totally ignorant comments to yourself if you have anything intelligent to say at all I'm all ears but it's probably past your bed time little one.

sia89
sia89

@VegasDawg @world4games Ok first off you only make yourself look like an a**hat when you try insulting someone using a superior tone, and then try to sound reasonable right after. Pick one, either be reasonable or be rude you can't be both.

world4games
world4games

@VegasDawg @world4games

LOL 300,000 educated servers? You are a retarded fanb0y sucking on MS a**.

I know bots buy microsoft bullsh1t but sorry do even try to sell that to me.

sia89
sia89

@world4games Now I will give you the benefit of the doubt that educated was a typo, but you provide no evidence that there aren't 300,000 dedicated servers, all your doing is stating cause someone believes something they were told with no evidence to the contrary they're a retarded fanboy....at least pretend your unbaised.