Xbox One Kinect peripheral can block cameras

PDP to release Kinect TV Mount peripheral that features a "privacy cover" that can be used to block the camera's RGB and IR cameras.

Peripheral maker PDP will release a Kinect TV Mount peripheral for the Xbox One that features a "privacy cover" allowing users to block the camera's RGB and IR cameras.

The $20 peripheral was revealed through an Amazon listing spotted on NeoGAF. According to its description, the Kinect TV Mount will fit almost any TV and requires no tools for installation.

The Xbox One's Kinect camera has been a point of controversy and debate since the next-generation console was originally announced in May.

Germany's federal data protection commissioner Peter Schaar said in May that the Xbox One is like a "monitoring device" because it records "all sorts of personal information" about users.

Microsoft has since clarified its Xbox One privacy policy, saying Kinect can be paused during games and entertainment and that the system will seek user permission before sharing personal data.

In addition, Xbox director Albert Penello said in September that it is technologically implausible for the Xbox One to send off the video and images it captures to third-parties.

"I'm not worried about it in my house because I know what's happening," Penello said at the time. "But you know, we let people unplug it if they're really super-sensitive about it."

The Xbox One launches on November 22 for $500.

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487 comments
Algearond
Algearond

I am going to save $20 and just unplug the damn thing

MonstaTruk
MonstaTruk

Because of the arrival of this peripheral, I've got a strong feeling the "Always On, Always Connected" business model is gonna rear its ugly head back into Xbox One owners living rooms.  And by that time, there'd be nothing they can do about, after you've spent $500+ dollars on the thing...

bu3aDeL_Maz
bu3aDeL_Maz

it's good to have a mount for it, but to actually cover the camera for the sake of privacy is funny. people can just unplug it, it will also turn off the mics ;)

blue_shift_91
blue_shift_91

rofl. consumer fear. so irrational that other companies can bank off it.

just turn your kinect around. 

tightwad34
tightwad34

"I don't worry about it in my house because I know what's happening, but you know we let people unplug it if they are really super-sensitive about it." Kind of sounds like he wants the camera to stay on at all times. As for me, if there's no serious need to be watched(which I can't imagine any scenario where I would need to be) then why the fuck risk anything. I really hope I speak for the majority of us when I say we don't want to be watched and we don't trust what anyone says otherwise. ALWAYS better safer than sorry. The NSA has only made this worse.  Not to mention hackers with bad intentions, but that's pretty much a whole 'nother subject.

rarson
rarson

So this is considered a "peripheral" for a peripheral?

rarson
rarson

Instead of buying this, you could just turn it around. Or unplug it.

This reminds me of the people who cover their webcams with tape.

Daian
Daian

Whoever ends up buying this probably barely has enough brain power to breath.

You could just pay me that 20$ to come over, unplug it for you and slap you over the head with it.

tom2750
tom2750

the only gullible people here are the ones who think that the Kinect will not watch you at all times and steal your info and give it away to the NSA etc youse are in denial and cant comprehend the idea of the government monitoring you that's why they can get away with this type of stuff because people are so far in denial and cant accept this type of stuff happening

sanchango
sanchango

I feel like unplugging the kinect would be the cheaper option wouldn't it?

mrcharrio
mrcharrio

Now you can pay 30.00 for a piece of tinfoil you can cover it with.
Sad that they have to make a privacy item since the machine was designed to WATCH US and report on our excitement levels our Heart rates and what ads we click on or games and movies we play for marketing info. 


Xbone needs to die, and any console with advertising in mind ahead of GAMES needs to die too.

nurnberg
nurnberg

I assume the people who claim "tinfoil hat" haven't read the news in a long time didn't they?

nurnberg
nurnberg

I hope that a country has the balls to completely ban the X1 for being a spying device.  It would be well deserved for Microsoft, and their NSA masters.

hadlee73
hadlee73

You know you've caused a stir when peripheral makers add an option to their bracket mount to prevent the camera from actually looking at you.

Zloth2
Zloth2

Errr, wouldn't a Styrofoam cup pretty much do the same thing?

Techtroll
Techtroll

Wow they've already made a device to cover up the xbox ones features that's not a good sign

deathstream
deathstream

Good money to made ripping off the paranoid.

Death_Masta187
Death_Masta187

if you are going to buy shit that blocks the camera because you don't trust MS not to spy on you.  you might want to step back and ask your self "Is is the right console for me?"

there are other options and cheaper ones at that. PC being one of them.

Sarg1010
Sarg1010

Now if only they didn't force you to buy a kinect...

Moonco
Moonco

Will the X1 still work if I throw the Kinect into a wood chipper?

Evil_Sidekick
Evil_Sidekick

In other news, Microsoft say, if you cover the camera, the Xbone will not work.

Either that or Kinect has X-ray vision so, there is nowhere to hide......bwahahahah!!

e424pd5
e424pd5

@buy2playz What the hell does your comment have to do with the article? Get over yourself and the console war bs. Upgrade to a pc if you want to feel superior. Plus all that is rumor and speculative, wait until they are both out to judge.

rarson
rarson

@tom2750  

1. The government is incompetent. Seriously, have you ever paid attention to what they're doing?

2. Even if they COULD collect all of this data, it would just further slow them down. They have absolutely no means of sorting through that much data. As it is, they have to aggressively filter the data that they're currently collecting just to sift through all the junk.

Yes, the government DOES monitor and collect an absurd amount of data on law-abiding citizens. But it's doing absolutely nothing with most of that data. They couldn't do anything with it even if they wanted to. Furthermore, an enterprising individual of slightly above-average intelligence would recognize this situation as an opportunity to poison the well. Get creative and you can use information tracking as a tool of misinformation. One person's surveillance is another person's opportunity.

Darknight765
Darknight765

@tom2750 I love how people think they are important enough to be monitored by the NSA.  LOL it is just comical.

sanchango
sanchango

@tom2750 By that same logic, this could be applied to almost every single device you may own(camera, phone, smartphone, tv, webcam,computer, etc). You act like it's impossible to unplug the device and just stow it away in the box it came from(or destroy it, i don't care, it's not my kinect).

sethschroeder07
sethschroeder07

@mrcharrio K so might as well get ride of the PS4 as well as they are thinking of marketing and making a profit first. No company actually cares about the games firsts if they are the one making the platform....

Daemoroth
Daemoroth

@nurnberg And I think people like you may have read it, but failed to actually underSTAND the news. It's not like they (Or Google, or any of the other companies) printed off your info and handed it out on a street corner - the government used WARRANTS to force them to hand over a SELECT FEW users' info.

MS and Google are actually in the process of SUING the government over their demands to release user info, so your whole warped picture of "MS and their NSA masters" is in DESPERATE need of a reality check.

RicanV
RicanV moderator

@Zloth2 Styrofoam cups kill penguins. Enjoy being a cheap penguin killer.

rarson
rarson

@deathstream  

It blocks the camera, but the microphone is still recording.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@Death_Masta187 I don't know about cheaper, but PC is definitely the better option here.

Of course, it's been awhile since I purchased a new machine, but I BELIEVE that for what you are being charged for an Xbox One, you can get a PC that outperforms it, yes?

Please correct me if I am wrong on this, because, like I said, it's been awhile.

tightwad34
tightwad34

@Darknight765 No, it's called being smart and cautious. Ever heard of better safe than sorry? Doesn't matter how silly you look. I've seen it happen and the "idiot" ends up being right.

sanchango
sanchango

@RicanV @sanchango You're right! How could I be so stupid? Not spending money? BLASPHEMY

Thank you for showing me the right path! :D

rarson
rarson

@Daemoroth

Wait, what? Do you honestly think that the government has always used warrants or acted in a legal manner? Shit, the police have busted down doors and shot the wrong people with warrants in their hands! Even if the government attempted to always operate entirely within the law (which is definitely NOT the case), their sheer incompetence would ensure regular gross injustices against law-abiding citizens.

I'm all for maintaining a rational attitude, but let's not ignore reality here.

tom2750
tom2750

@Daemoroth @nurnberg there just suing to make it look like there not giving away info just to get there public image back in tack but really any money Microsoft wins off the government will just be for show and they will secretly give the money back to the government but the public wont find out so Microsoft will look like the heroes they aren't everyone will be like yay Microsoft are a great company that cares about our privacy when really they will still be giving info to the NSA they will just trick the public into thinking they wont be so that they look like the good guys and people wont think the NSA is getting there private info its a mater joint plan developed by the higher ups in Microsoft and the NSA  plus even Microsoft admits the Xbox one is designed with advertising In mind and that they can sell your info to third party companies to try and sells you products enjoy being spammed with advertisements adboxone and enjoy your Doritos and pizza hut

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@vox_populi @deathstream No, it's making money off the gullible who don't realize there are simple methods that can be done to accomplish what they are charging you $20 for.


Paranoia has nothing to do with it.

The practical prudence they are trying to make money off of can be done for free.

Or simply choosing not to purchase an Xbox One.

tom2750
tom2750

@TheWatcher000 @Death_Masta187 how would you know the performance capabilities of a console that hasn't even came out all you know is the specs a pc with the same specs as a console will not perform nearly as ell as a console with similar specs to it PC elitists compare a ps4 to a mid range PC yes on paper its specs might be around mid range but because console games are optimized and they can suck a lot of power out of a lot less hardware then a PC the real world in game performance will be much closer if not as good a some high end pc's

Techtroll
Techtroll

Yeah it would be cool getting cancer from X-rays...NOT!

rarson
rarson

@Daemoroth

I don't understand your response. What was your point? That the government used warrants? Why do warrants matter if we don't care whether they were legally obtained or not? I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I'm just not sure what you're saying. I don't see why warrants matter.

Daemoroth
Daemoroth

@rarson I don't give a flying (d)uck about how incompetent/corrupt/alien-infested the/your/my government is, that's not the discussion here, and I'm not looking to start in that direction.

That doesn't change the fact that MS/Google/others only released info because of warrants issued (Again, I don't care whether those were justified, bought, political, from another dimension, how they were obtained by the government is irrelevant in this discussion). MS/Google/others didn't print and distribute everyone's details on a street corner, even though people try to paint it that way.

I'm going to stop here though, it's obvious from @tom2750 that I need to re-learn an old lesson - paranoia and irrational thought cannot be reasoned with, neither through rational discussion nor with facts.

5cott
5cott

@TheWatcher000 Ofcourse paranoia has something to do with it. It fuels the consumer's gullibility even further and with the scares of spying etc in recent times, it capitalises on it even more.

There is no way you can logically suggest this item has had no influence from paranoia.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@vox_populi @TheWatcher000 El Oh El.

It's like you are mentally ill, or something.

You aren't used to getting your ass handed to you, are you, vox?

Look, you need to run along and go search for the passive, Little Red Riding Hood types you like to troll with.

It's your bad luck you ran into The Big Bad Wolf today.

It will all stop when you decide to find something else to do.  :)


TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@vox_populi @TheWatcher000 @Evil_Sidekick Oh, what's the matter, cupcake?  Don't give up now, I was just starting to have fun with you.

I don't have a personal vendetta against you.  But I do have a problem with ANYONE who promotes and supports a Police State that infringes on Constitutional rights, and general freedom and liberty.

And I will happily and aggressively publicly shame anyone that does so with the arrogance and audacity that you have here today.

Don't like it?  Tough shit.

Next time, don't bring a knife to a gunfight.  You CLEARLY aren't cut out for this game.

Now, go take some spelling lessons, and maybe we can try again when you can actually put a sentence together without embarrassing yourself, and everyone else.

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@vox_populi @TheWatcher000 @Evil_Sidekick Ahhhh, my mistake then.

But I do have faith in you, cupcake.

I am certain you suck just as badly in the other four.

Now, are you quite done, or are you just naturally a masochist who craves abuse?


I thought you were ignoring my comments, because "I wasn't worth it."

If my value is so low to you, why do you desperately keep responding?  Do you not realize how foolish this makes you look?

TheWatcher000
TheWatcher000

@vox_populi @TheWatcher000 @Evil_Sidekick 

And here, folks, we have the perfect example of unintentional irony.

In this case, we have a cabbage head internet troll who seeks to do damage to his opponents by insulting their intellect, yet he himself does not seem to possess the grammar knowledge and grasp of his own native language any better than a potato bug.

Let this serve as a lesson to those of you who want to make trolling a profession.

In order to be effective, you must at LEAST be able to display intelligence above that of worn asphalt, or you will look like nothing more than a fool who is completely and dangerously unaware of his own foolishness.

Here endeth the lesson.