Xbox One facial data from Kinect doesn't leave the console

Microsoft says for privacy reasons, data collected from camera never leaves the local console; next-gen Kinect not designed with ad functionality in mind.

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Those concerned about the potential for the Xbox One's Kinect camera to scan their face and upload that data to the cloud can breathe a sigh of relief. Microsoft director of product planning Albert Penello said in a NeoGAF post that this won't happen for privacy reasons.

The confirmation came as part of a post from Penello addressing questions about Kinect as it relates to NuAds--interactive advertising--on the Xbox platform. He said the next-generation Kinect was not designed with ad functionality in mind.

In a previous interview, Penello suggested that because the Xbox One's Kinect can read facial expressions and determine levels of engagement, Microsoft could provide this data to advertisers.

"This is the point that seems to draw some controversy," Penello said.

However, "nobody is working on that" kind of technology at the moment, Penello said. "We have a lot more interesting and pressing things to dedicate time towards. It was an interview done speculatively, and I'm not aware (emphasis original) of any active work in this space."

If such an advertising initiative were to come to fruition, Penello said users can be sure that it would not happen without people having full control over it. "Period," he said.

At present, Penello explained that the Xbox One's Kinect can recognize a user's face and log them in directly. He said there could be some "cool features" Microsoft could enable if it stored this data in the cloud, such as being able to be auto-recognized at a friend's house. However, "for privacy reasons, your facial data doesn't leave the console," he said.

"I'll say this--we take a lot of heat around stuff we've done and I can roll with it," Penello said. "Some of it is deserved. But preventing Kinect from being used inappropriately is something the team takes very seriously."

Germany's federal data protection commissioner Peter Schaar said in May that the Xbox One is like a "monitoring device" because it records "all sorts of personal information" about users. Microsoft has since clarified its Xbox One privacy policy, saying Kinect can be paused during games and entertainment and that the system will seek user permission before sharing personal data.

The Xbox One launches on November 22. A recent report from the International Data Corporation stated that the PlayStation 4 will outsell the Xbox One this holiday due to its lower price point, among other things.

Discussion

1290 comments
Impaler722
Impaler722

PS4's PS Eye is 2x better than that log of shit kinect. 

theKSMM
theKSMM

Why do I give a rip? If they wanna watch my face squirm while I'm facing a boss battle, be my guest.  You guys are whining about privacy and XBOX vs PS  like a pack of little girls.

If you're really that concerned with privacy, then I hope you're not carrying a smartphone...

epicgameresearc
epicgameresearc

MS has said that its collected user information won't leave XBOX ONE, but if you look around the web and read all of the interviews...  they are only saying it won't leave XBOX ONE at launch.  There are many journalists who are speculating MS will ultimately open the flood-gates on this information.  Why?  Because it's exactly the information that advertisers will pay big money for...  making MS lots of revenue.  Expect it. 

solid_snake1461
solid_snake1461

Who care? You can always wear a mask when you play games, right? Personally, if I was to buy the Xbone then I would wear the Obama mask. Then I can do all sort of things and the gov will have their president to blame.

SurfaceNerd
SurfaceNerd

I don't think terrorist will buy an Xbox One

ex_xboxgamer
ex_xboxgamer

Yes the new PS4 has a camera! but is it mandatory? NO, sony is giving the consumer a CHOICE! weather you want to use a camera system on your next gen console. if you don't want a kinect you can "stick" with the xbox 360? They fired don but NOTHING has changed.

bunchanumbers
bunchanumbers

Make a sku without a kinect and sell it for 399. Hell you could even sell it for 350. Most of the cost of the X1 is on the kinect anyway. 

Blazen702
Blazen702

90% of new HDTV's coming out have a built in camera with voice control. All you kids are pathetic. If the govt or someone wants to spy on you they will hack you via phone PC or laptop/tablet before a console or Tv. You aren't that important so get over yourselves. And if you are doing something wrong I hope they do catch your ass but mostly I think more of you are under 18 and probably worried someone will be watching while you play with yourselves in front of your TV. I guess that what Sony fanboys do. Losers.

Blazen702
Blazen702

Putting NSA, spying and prism in a post about a gaming console and a reason to not buy it is super retarded and ridiculous. Sony fanboys will say anything that comes to mind to put the X1 down because they are scrared the X1 will win the console war here in the US as the 360 did. Pathetic excuses from fanboys don't sell consoles. I for one will never buy anything Sony. The PS4 sucks so much balls that fanboys can't rely on the console itself speaking for them so they lie and make up ludicrous statements. Idiots

BuddMage
BuddMage

Xbox could easily be lying about this. Microsoft has been under the NSA hand for way too long. I doubt that will change with the Xbone. Still I won't trust it. Ps4 all the way!!

VitaismyDaddy
VitaismyDaddy

I will never buy the NSA box no matter what you say, Microsoft.

ex_xboxgamer
ex_xboxgamer

@Blazen702 There are Xboner fans and PS fanboys and THEN there's guys like me that left the xbox for the unfriendly service and the lack to listen to gamers. I see a lot of guys like me on here, that are not sony fanboys and then I see a lot of xboner fans like you... which are the most pitiful of them all... I tell you why, your getting ripped off by buying a mandatory camera that may spy on you, you get treated like trash instead of a nice loyal customer and yet going to support them with your wallet... It's all about money and respect son, stop being that dog that get's kicked around then you lick there feet. 

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@bunchanumbers lol i see what ur doing bunch!

Campers <shakes heads>

somebody break out the tents...i got smores :-D

> wii u

SonyWinsAgain
SonyWinsAgain

@Blazen702 those HDTV's are made by company's that didn't work with PRISM!!! Stupid XBOT you can't win, SONY ALWAYS WINS!!!

SonyWinsAgain
SonyWinsAgain

@Blazen702 another BUTTHURT XBOT!!!! Sony fanboys speak the truth!!! You simply can't accept it!

scared the x1 will win the console war?!?!??! BWWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!!!! You a comedian????

SonyWinsAgain
SonyWinsAgain

@BuddMage amen to that!! MS can't be trusted, they are ruining gaming with their SPYBOX 180, the NSA has a stranglehold on M$ and they will be listening in on your every move!!!

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@BuddMage You think that Sony will not give away data to NSA when they demands it?

ShutUpFanboys
ShutUpFanboys

@ex_xboxgamer @Blazen702 "buying a mandatory camera that MAY spy on you"

so what you don't know? you don't know? you wrote MAY spy, so you have no proof then? Exactly you don't have any proof, you'v'e been brainwashed by these forum postings by PS fanboys. I love this too "I see a lot of guys like me on here"

really? You didn't think for a minute that some of these Sony fanboys would try to persuade former XBOX gamers by acting like they were previous XBOX fanboys fed up with MS and ready to move to Sony? You are easily manipulated by forum postings. And that is an old tactic that has been used in the past "console warz".

reading another one of your posts you pretty much say this:

"look around you, it's obvious nobody wants XBOX ONE"

again BRAINWASHED by internet forum postings. "EVERYONE" is not on video game forums. Hardcore gamers come here. Casuals have no idea what DRM even means. Casuals make up the majority of sales for each system, so you are wrong.

sad times we live in. I will be playing both PS4 and XBOX ONE, and why? THE GAMES, not the BS POLITICS you guys are so hung up on.

hopefully this shit fades away and we can get back to talking about GAMES instead of policies and the god damn NSA.

SonyWinsAgain
SonyWinsAgain

@ex_xboxgamer @Blazen702 

LOVE IT!!!  So many previous XBOTS are smartening up and coming to the REAL place for gamers: PLAYSTATION. We have the BEST games PERIOD. Who else has Naughty Dog? Nobody, who else has games like Infamous? NOBODY.

What does M$ have? HALO and ummmmm...yeah. we don't need M$ in our industry, PS4 will wipe them off the map for good!!!

bunchanumbers
bunchanumbers

@racerxgundam @bunchanumbers What? its all true. Why require something that is causing so much trouble for your launch campaign? Seems to me like your goal should be to get as many consoles in people's doors before you try to add in 100+$ peripherals. 

SonyWinsAgain
SonyWinsAgain

@sladakrobot @BuddMage M$ works with the NSA!! Sony does not! M$ made PRISM just for the NSA. Sony has nothing to do with PRISM. M$ might as well just be PART of the NSA they are liars, thieves, cowards, they want to force Kinect on you to spy on your lives!!!

BuddMage
BuddMage

Regardless any big company will be working with NSA in one way or another in today's world. Yet, it's who will provide the more detailed report,and what I as the user have control over is my concern. Xbone has the more detailed camera. The beginning statements provided by xbone and it's constant use of the camera , has had me thinking twice. Yes they did reverse it, but only due to gamers voice and marketing strategy.

Apple has said the same thing like in this article about the new fingerprint scanner,yet recent reports have shown that they have been transferred over to the NSA. Remember Micrsoft has been working with the NSA for decades & have been a strong leader of info. The relationship will only grow stronger as time pass. Hence the reason why Xbone came out the way they did ( constant online connectivity etc).

ShutUpFanboys
ShutUpFanboys

@racerxgundam @ShutUpFanboys @Blazen702 

"you can criticize a product even if you like the company...."

that's fair, and I have criticized MS in the past, mostly for the RROD on 2 of my 360's before getting the much better slim.

But you haven't seen it the way I have over the years. MS has been POUNDED since the first XBOX by haters everywhere. I'm a big fan of the underdog, I stood up for the first XBOX and got laughed at back in 2001 for doing so. Same with the 360, after launch it got made fun of constantly and I stood up for it just the same.

I've always seen MS as the underdog, Sony has always been on top, they had a minor glitch with the PS3 at the beginning but even that has been forgotten. Nobody ever wants to route for the underdog, but I will continue to do so even though I like both Sony and MS.

things like this policy bickering are politics, I don't care about something that MS almost put in place, they didn't do it so I'm over it. I just want to play the games coming out in November for both systems.

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@ShutUpFanboys @racerxgundam @Blazen702 well ur the one blowing M$ dude in broad public. at least get a room.

i mean sheep like you think what u do is normal. dont be a slave. you can criticize a product even if u like the company or liked previous editions of said product.

stop being an unpaid employee, tool

> wii u 

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@ShutUpFanboys @racerxgundam @ex_xboxgamer @Blazen702 the point is, and what the article implied was the detection of your biometric data could be an indication of what u liked..and hence have advertising tailored to u. 

think of it this way. when M$ unzips its pants and your on your knees...the skipping of your heart and the watering of your mouth are subtle indications that u like what u do for M$

> wii u

ShutUpFanboys
ShutUpFanboys

@racerxgundam @ShutUpFanboys @ex_xboxgamer @Blazen702 wow. My heart rate?

ITS THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT!

My heart rate will be exposed.

like I said, keep wasting your time arguing about stupid shit like this while I'll be playing both systems and laughing at you still arguing this shit months from now.

ShutUpFanboys
ShutUpFanboys

@racerxgundam @ShutUpFanboys @ex_xboxgamer @Blazen702 what "DATA"? do you know what exactly this data is?

NO. you don't. It could be data from the game for all you know. To say "Spying" on someone with a camera - makes it sound like they are actually "watching" you.

I'm tired of arguing with you political freaks. My last statement stands. it's about GAMES for me.

you can argue this shit while I'll be enjoying BOTH systems.

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@ShutUpFanboys @ex_xboxgamer @Blazen702 M$ at various points and as reported on this very site have stated that the xbox 1 can collect "data". 

there was an article posted here that stated that the kinect would allow M$ to tailor the videogame experience to specific users.

now because they realized that peeps are not cool with that they are trying to backtrack on the topic.

just because ur so readily willing to accept anything that M$ does does not mean that others share your disposition. 

> wii u

racerxgundam
racerxgundam

@bunchanumbers @racerxgundam oh i agree with u 100%

just glad that ur around. makes me feel a lil less like a wandering hobo 

:-D

but yeah, all that needed to be done was offer two sku's, a delux and a basic. problem solved.

> wii u

BuddMage
BuddMage

Microsoft is a BIG company. Mainly back then it was there OS due to the connectivity and wide spread amount of users.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

@BuddMage You say MS is working NSA for decades now...that means the original Xbox and the X360 was affected aswell?