Xbox One Console Exclusivity Doesn’t Change Plans for PC Version of Double Fine’s Massive Chalice

Massive Chalice backers will still get the game on PC first.

Microsoft’s E3 press conference was packed with games, so you might have missed the news that Double Fine’s Massive Chalice was announced as a console exclusive for Xbox One.

The strategy game was successfully Kickstarted last year, raising a total of $1,229,014, well over the $750,000 funding goal Double Fine was looking for. At the time, backers thought they were funding a PC game, and according to project lead Brad Muir and the Massive Chalice team, the Xbox One news shouldn't worry them at all.

“Nothing has changed with our plans to bring Massive Chalice to the PC and to make it available for our backers first,” they said in a recent update to backers. “YEAH! During this time we'll be porting the game to the Xbox One.

As soon as we're done porting the game, we'll launch it as a console exclusive on Xbox One. We're super stoked to have this additional support in giving Massive Chalice the next-gen console treatment!“

Massive Chalice was billed as a tactical strategy game that will be a hybrid of X-COM and Final Fantasy Tactics, coupled with a bloodlines and breeding mechanic.

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Printul_Noptii
Printul_Noptii

seriously just give us Halo 2 remastered on the PC instead thats all I really ask for I would even lay down 80 Euro for it in a heart beat, MS why do you hate money ? :/

Vegeta-sama
Vegeta-sama

Massive Chalice gets the port because it's the path of least resistance and adds much needed revenue

adub424
adub424

Makes sense since PC gamers are Microsoft games. PC and Xbox offer different play experiences but Microsoft still supports (and receives royalties from) both platforms.

BelaidKL
BelaidKL

I shall look forward to it!

C_A_G_E
C_A_G_E

There kickstarter was for the PC game. they did not mention Consoles from anything i can see. 


What they do with the console port is their business. 


Sucks for me as a PS4 owner because i was hoping this came out for the PS4 at some point.


Sounds like a good game...  

kujel
kujel

Awesome another reason to pick up an X1 in the future.

cratecruncher
cratecruncher

I'll likely get flamed but this just doesn't smell right.  The spirit of Kickstarter is not for developers to fund their projects with free money, then sell the rights to another corporation to further enrich themselves.  Yes it's all legal but it undermines the resource by creating a sense of cynicism among backers and hurts the chances of future projects meeting their funding goals.


Tim Schaefer should be banned from Kickstarter.  He's already in trouble with me for the Broken Age fiasco.  Now a string of exclusivity deals?  Double Fine?  More like Double $ell!  He clearly has no problem obtaining funding.


If Kickstarter is to remain a viable alternative for small independent developers they (Kickstarter) need to implement tighter life cycle rules so that folks with name recognition (T.S., P. L. to name a few) can no longer abuse the altruistic nature of backers.


evarin
evarin

Looks neat. Good on Microsoft for attempting to step up their Indie portfolio.

Veenox
Veenox

Indies who go "exclusive" always lose a bit of respect from me.

Sozialminister
Sozialminister

I dont see how xbots are going to buy strategy games. They only care for generic shooters and slow racing games.

billzihang
billzihang

That must've raised a couple of eyebrows when that was announced. Hmmm... so as a PC gamer it's possible I won't get the game I've put money behind.


Just hope that too much money isn't taken away from PC development in order to port to Xbox. Remember, this is a very different thing to normal releases-- it's the PC gamers that kickstarted the game that have payed for its development.

blackace
blackace

I'll be getting this if it's good.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

When i first heard of this game few months ago i was jelauos on pc gamers.

Its been a while since there was a strategy game in style of FF Tactics/Fire Emblem/X-Com(the old,i suppose) on consoles/big screen.

I am happy that i will have a chance to play it on my X1.

Now,all i need more is Torchlight 2.

AuronAXE
AuronAXE

A mix of FFT and X-COM? That's a pretty crazy combination, gonna check it out.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

Why are wasting their time and effort?  No one on the Bone is going to buy this.  A strategy game?  No shooting stuff?  They're not interested.

WingChopMasta
WingChopMasta

Can Ms even secure actual exclusives anymore? This game will be better on PC anyways so who wants it in their Box?


Sad really.

helbertpina
helbertpina

Much more interested in learning whether the Grim Fandango remake will make the trip back to PC... I'd love to play it again (but I'm not ready to buy a PS4 yet)...

santoron
santoron

Sounds like a good game!  I'll have to check it out on PC.

Boddicker
Boddicker

Oi Vey.  This just makes the choice of whether to get a PS4 or X1 that much harder.

jerusaelem
jerusaelem

I backed it. I'm getting what I paid for. Who the hell cares if they want to port it to Xbox? Oh no! More potential profits that might go towards the creation of Psychonauts 2! The horror!

kate_jones
kate_jones

@Printul_Noptii I think they expect windows users to buy an xbox and halo. So they think by making a windows version they will lose money. Or they just hate windows and treat it like the enemy (my pick)

MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@cratecruncher 

First why does it even matter? The game is coming on PC first and the X1 version is being funded by MS so it's not going to be compromised. 

Second obviously Tim couldn't get funding for his games with just ideas, MS saw the working prototype for the game that Kickstarters funded and liked it.

Third, without Kickstarter Microsoft could've gotten this game as an X1 exclusive without PC all together. 

origkillmachine
origkillmachine

@cratecruncher The idea is to get funding, IMO. If a developer can use Kickstarter to generate interest in their game, and as a result earns the opportunity to get stable funding/publishing, I see no reason why they shouldn't. The whole idea is to create the game they have in mind. Being decidedly "indie" has nothing to do with Kickstarter.


Many means to an end. As long as the backers are still getting what they signed up for, then where's the harm?

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

@Veenox Sometimes a console maker will not show any interest in having their game. much like how a developer creates a sitcom and then has to shop it around the networks until someone agrees to air it. 

And small startup developer sometimes have no choice- take mojang and Minecraft who made an exclusive deal with Microsoft- the indie game was big on PC but it exploded on console- they would have loved to port it to ps3 and sony but because of the exclusivity deal - had to wait a few years on the per deal - which it then went on and sold. 

I know alot of this licensing deals and exclusive deals seem anti gamer but they have their purpose and it all works for the gaming consumer down the road. The main big job console makers have besides created the console and taking in licensing fees is to be the stop sign that allows which games get to go on their system and which does not. The shovelware that flooded the Atari in the 80's lead to the gaming crash and all of the 3rd party wii shovelware flooded a system to the point no 3rd party could get attention to their game. 

It is not like a basketball player who goes to what ever teams pays them the most, sometimes they have to go to whatever team that will play them. 

moonlightwolf01
moonlightwolf01

@billzihang The real question is how much support the game will get post launch. Which platform gets priority for bug fixing and patches, the relatively small community of backers or the massive console publisher.

xsonicchaos
xsonicchaos

@sladakrobot 

This game isn't going to be that demanding. I'm sure you have a laptop lying around to play a game like this on your big screen tv. "Jelauos" on pc gamers, you crack me up. You can be jelauos if you can't play ARMA 3, not this game.

rasterror
rasterror

@Thanatos2k I have an Xbox One and I'm going to buy it. In fact the reason I bought a 360 were because of all of the original JRPG's. The only shooter I have is Titan Fall. Sorry to burst your stereotype. 

xcollector
xcollector

@helbertpina Probably not. Disney owns the thing now. Disney sucks. Disney doesn't understand Games. Disney doesn't care about gamers. Disney doesn't care about the PC. I could go on. Who knows what Sony had to do to get Disney to let them have it on their system. And who knows what Tim had to do to convince Sony to convince Disney to let Tim remake it. Since Sony is in charge at the moment they'll keep it exclusive. Disney could of course bring it over but when was the last time Disney ever did anything amazing for the PC?

wizardjenkins
wizardjenkins

When it comes to small indies like these I would say don't let them sway you on your console purchase. It doesn't take much power to run these on PC

rasterror
rasterror

Just look at what both have to offer, think about what you prefer, and don't listen to the fanboys.

shingui5
shingui5

@jerusaelem

I'm just hoping it doesn't affect the game in an adverse way. Consoles aren't exactly places to play strategy games after all, mainly due to limited controls.

moonlightwolf01
moonlightwolf01

@origkillmachine The difference comes when the backers expect to be having the game on one platform and are then told its actually going to be exclusive to another. It's not such a big deal here since backers will still get their PC version and its a single-player game, but can you imagine if they did this to a multi-player game, the player community on the original platform would be restricted to just the backers.


The other problem is that it highlights some of the bait and switch issues with kickstarter which of course damages peoples faith in the platform and while T.S. could probably get backing from other sources there are plenty of indie devs who can't and will be hurt by people quite rightly becoming more suspicious of kickstarter projects.

_williamwallace
_williamwallace

What's the point of your comment? To laugh because his opinion is different than yours? Arma 3 is nothing to be jealous over either, unless you're a fan of buggy games.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

@isane-bishop @Thanatos2k I do.  Remember the time when Microsoft commissioned a bunch of JRPGs for the Xbox360?  You know, Infinite Undiscovery, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, Magna Carta 2, Star Ocean 4, and Blue Dragon?


They sold like crap.  And then people stopped making RPGs for the Xbox360 that weren't multiplatform, because people don't buy RPGs on Microsoft consoles.  In fact, people started porting some of those games to the PS3 as fast as they could, which is why there was a PS3 version of Vesperia and SO4.


Let us look at the sales numbers of FF13-3, a pretty well known RPG that recently came out for both PS3 and 360.


First week sales:

PS3 - 277,000 copies

Xbox360 - 4,000


Lifetime sales

PS3 ~870k

Xbox360 - ~170k


So yes, I can state factually that RPGs do not sell on Xbox.  Strategy RPGs are even MORE niche.  XCOM, one of the best there is, might not have even cracked 500k on consoles.


Targeting a Microsoft console for your strategy RPG is a waste of money.

Muradin_2
Muradin_2

@moonlightwolf01 It's not a bait and switch. The game is still coming to PC. The fact that it's a "console exclusive for Xbox One" just means it isn't coming to PS4, Wii U, or last gen consoles.

xsonicchaos
xsonicchaos

@_williamwallace 

The point of my comment was a ludic one. What's the point of your comment? To point out that my comment has no point? What are we talking about?

billzihang
billzihang

@_williamwallace 
It's not that buggy at all.. and it is something to be jealous of if you happen to like military simulators.

There aren't exactly a lot of them.

blackace
blackace

@Thanatos2k @isane-bishop Tales of Vesperia & Eternal Sonata both sold more copies on the Xbox 360 then on the PS3. Even the Japan version sold more copies on the Xbox 360. lol!!

Ovirew
Ovirew

@Thanatos2k That's all fine, well and true...  But I would argue that nobody is really making much in the way of RPGs anymore, and they haven't been since prior to the last gen.


How many notable RPGs does the PS3 have?  Ni No Kuni?  3D Dot Game Heroes?  Valkyrie Chronicles?  Maybe they were successful, but they were hardly of a higher caliber than the RPGs available on the 360.

santoron
santoron

@Saidrex  Did you not read?  It's going to PC first, with backers getting it before anyone else.  Then they'll be porting to XBox after PC release.

Stop spreading BS.

Saidrex
Saidrex

@santoron @Saidrex of course - backers get early alpha version, Xbox gets finished and polished game. Hey, MS paying and much more than backers so have to get that Xbox version perfect, backers can feast on leftovers.

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

@Saidrex Backers don't pay for the game again, XOne users still have to pay.
Use some logic.