Xbox executive says comparing specs is "meaningless"

Microsoft product planning boss Albert Penello says consumers truly care about games and experiences above all else.

Xbox executive Albert Penello believes comparing systems specifications between Xbox One and PlayStation 4 is "in some ways meaningless."

"The problem is that Sony decided to go out and publish a bunch of numbers, which are in some ways meaningless," Penello told OXM. "Because this isn't like 1990, when it was 16-bit versus 32-bit."

He continued, "They actually go out and they talk about how proud they are about their off-the-shelf parts. Our guys'll say, we touched every single component in the box and everything there is tweaked for optimum performance."

Ultimately, Penello said he believes consumers will choose a console for the games it has, not for how it is described--technically--on paper.

"Here's what you care about," he said. "You bought a system to play great games and have great experiences," Penello said. "I feel like our games and experiences are going to be every bit as good, if not better, technically--on top of all the magic we're going to add with the instant switching, and the power of the cloud."

Penello said he would rather not even have the conversation about Xbox One vs. PS4 specifications because "it's not going to matter."

"I heard this exact same argument last generation and it's a pointless argument, because people are debating things which they don't know about. They're not [head silicon engineer] Nick Baker or [corporate vice president of IEB hardware Todd Holmdahl], and I'm not [lead PS4 architect] Mark Cerny, so why are we having this discussion?"

The Xbox One ($500) and the PS4 ($400) launch later this year.

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DWalker131
DWalker131

this sounds abit like "winning isn't everything" lol

we all know whose says that lol

tionmedon
tionmedon

there are no console`s since the XB1 and PS4 are PC based so we have PC`s and mini me PC`s so there...........

Revl8n
Revl8n

This time around, consumers are buying the product that meets their needs.  For instance, I want a to play games so I am buying a PS4.

KingChainz31684
KingChainz31684

And as far as quality exclusives which takes away games like dance central 1,2,3, dance universe 1,2 things like that which nearly makes up 97 of xbox 360's 156 exclusive titles.if you look at gamerankings.com PS3 has 13 exclusive titles with a score of over 90 on average ratings on games with over 20 reviews done for them. of those 13 it has 9 different IPs. xbox 360 has 7 titles falling in that category with 4 different IPs. The highest rated exclusive on x360 is the original gears of war which is 93.97%. PS3 has 3 titles rated higher than that with 3 different IPs. Of 360's 7 3 are GOW and 2 are Halo. Oh and the game The Last of Us is one of the best console games ever made IMO simply incredible with a 95.05% avg rating to support that though thats not even the highest rated exclusive PS3 title.

I mean Im just saying. .

KingChainz31684
KingChainz31684

Exclusives and past experience are enough to sway me to the PS4.  With the X360 I had a red ring system to start sent it in 3 times with in a year and a half and then it was simply a brick after that.  The second 360 I had was scratching my discs which not only did i have to send in the system.  i had to play 40 bucks to replace 2 discs.  After I got the system back I sold it and pretty much decided if i ever go back to xbox it will be well after the system has proven itself to be quality.  Seeing as how my first original xbox suffered from constant disc read errors and the like. 

My experience with xbox would lead people to believe i am bad with systems but in reality I still have a working NES, SNES, N64, 60 gig PS3 and a 500 gig white PS3.  Until the xbone can come out and not have a rediculous 68% failure rate over its first 3 years

__Metallica
__Metallica

MS: "The Xbox ONE created with advertising in mind" How is that a good way to sell consoles?!?!

MS: "Comparing specs is meaningless"

I mean come on is there really people out there thats still considering buying the Xbox ONE?! 

I can just see the ads floating around the TV screen as the MS fanboys are playing their beloved HALO. 

And then the console WILL freeze every 5 minutes because for MS products to freeze up and die now that is actually MS policy!

gosushi
gosushi

I have to agree with Penello. I've already preordered my Xbox One console because I've already grown accustom to the previous consoles and prefer to play Xbox titles like Halo. I doubt the majority of people who purchase the PS4 care or even know a great deal about the internal components of their console.

xnight_ninjax
xnight_ninjax

I used to be a huge xbox fan but they are just getting ridiculous. so glad im switching over to ps4. specs do mean something. especially when it comes to exclusive titles. you compare the last of us to any xbox exclusive and it destorys it.

lunahalo
lunahalo

@xnight_ninjax so PS3 has one title and all of a sudden it's a game changer. WOW

if specs meant something then the PS3 should have dominated the console market last gen but it didn't. 

cyclonebw
cyclonebw

This only means Microsoft is embarrassed by their specs. . .  lol

ShockWaver95
ShockWaver95

PS4 has more games support and power, which makes it better. It's easier to develop.

lunahalo
lunahalo

@ShockWaver95 this is actually wrong, unlike last gen this time around both consoles use the same architecture so it's pretty much the same for both. With Sony using GDDR ram instead of DDR might actually make it a bit "different" to develop for

ranbir_flame
ranbir_flame

Agreed. Its the games that matter. The 360 was behind in hardware specs but the output was as good and in some cases better than the PS3. Spec differences shouldn't matter that much in the next-gen either.

beardface21
beardface21

@ranbir_flame Yes it is the games that matter, and in this case again the PS4 has the upper hands since Sony went out to get what the developers wanted.  

cyclonebw
cyclonebw

@ranbir_flame 

It took a long time before developers could figure out how to build for the ps3.  With the PS4 developers helped shape the software and specs for easy porting and quick development. 

Rayrota
Rayrota

In Microsoft's defense, the PS2 was the least powerful console in its generation and it dominated in sales and outlasted all of its competitors. So there's some truth to Penello's words. HOWEVER, the Xbox One isn't the PlayStation 2 and the circumstances here are vastly different. Also, $500.

nrambo
nrambo

bad case of foot-in-mouth-itis going around at MSHQ.

zpluffy
zpluffy

Adam then Don then this guy

Zoomer30
Zoomer30

I hear the guy who made this statement has now apologized for it. How many times have Microsoft excs stuck size 10 into mouth this past month? Starting to see why microsoft canceled its post E3 press conference, think they figured out more gibberish would just help Sony more.

ken4062
ken4062

Games are important but they fail to mention Sony is the GAMES console. Why put attention on their competitors strength?

WhyAgain
WhyAgain

Specs aren't meaningless, but they aren't the most important thing either. If you only buy said console because of the specs, you might as well get a PC. In the end, it comes down to the games on said console.

dpclark
dpclark

"The funny thing about game consoles is that it’s usually the lowest common denominator that determines the bulk of the experience across all platforms." - AnandTech.com. 

Damn you Microsoft! You screwed the whole game industry with your TV TV TV console!

"Specs don't matter" to Microsoft because they pull the rest of the industry down to their level to some degree.  I'm sure they are pleased with themselves.

KingChainz31684
KingChainz31684

I like the xbone fanboys who try to say sony is trying to pull a fast one on everyone just saying their system is more powerful when microsoft in this article just said ps4 is more powerful by a substanial amount.  Its actually what this artical is about.

KingChainz31684
KingChainz31684

Specs aren't the most important thing but they are important people are counting way to much on the could service making the system more than it is as a whole, but outside of that unless your a gears or a halo fan boy game wise ps4 has a lot more going for it especially since there is heavy talk of titanfall reaching the PS4 before its all said and done which to me is the coolest looking xbone game going.  A lot more qaulity exclusive IPS for PS4 and Developers are eating up how together sony is that and the ability for them to meet supply and demand.

dpclark
dpclark

The PS4 hardware is verified to be significantly more powerful in 2 areas:

Fact 1) 50% more GPU shader power.

Fact 2) 20% more memory bandwidth.

Peak Shader Throughput:

Bone = 768

PS4 = 1152

System Memory Bandwidth:

Bone = 68.3 GB/s

PS4 = 176.0 GB/s (That’s roughly the amount of memory bandwidth we’ve come to expect from a $300 GPU. - Anandtech.com)

Price:

Bone = $500

PS4 = $400

This is not up for debate. That said, both consoles will have some good/great exclusives and gaming is about more than just raw graphics power. Still, you need to do more research if you haven't caught up to current events yet: the PS4 is *definitely* a lot more powerful in 2 major areas than The Bone...and the difference is much bigger than it was between the PS3/360.

chopsbenedict
chopsbenedict

why would anyone speaking on behalf of a company, trying to sell their product, draw attention to an area in which they are EVEN WEAKER...most of us who play games or give a flying **** what execs in the business say already know there isn't going to be a monumental difference in the power of the consoles...what we also know is that xbox has had to do its 180, so they lost months before release in the customer service line... so this boils down to the only way to sell your console is hope that people keep buying gears and halo games forever?  Better off having said nothing.

Metronoid
Metronoid

Cloud in Xbox one will be more powefull by all sources. So the 1.8 tflop from ps4 will be meaningless. Xbox one will be  3x superior with cloud so what rest for ps4 besides is copying Kinect 1 and Wii U second screen on Vita?

Dr_takapotku
Dr_takapotku

By saying such idiotic comments, M$ is digging their own grave even deeper because this time they actually admit that their console is so much less powerful(yet more expensive) that you shouldn't even compare it to PS4.

TirOrah
TirOrah

I agree with the sentiment of games being more important than technical information, but to just dismiss it is a little heavy handed. It all boils down to which console can get the most out of its specs. 

Having said that, I'm not a fan of the 'here's what you care about' line. If it had been 'here's what ~we believe~ you care about' it would have been a lot better. I still don't want any of these people (console spokesmen etc, not just Xbox people) to stop telling me what I want just like that. 

Oh well, at least this article isn't ~full~ of insults. XD

MalakTawus
MalakTawus

Incredible how Xbox staff continue to come out with one BS after another.

Who the hell is this moron to judge if people understand the difference in technical specs?

Sure, maybe a lot of people don't understand it, but that doesn't change the fact that there are TONS of people in the world that actually understand the technical differences VERY WELL........and there is not even ONE person that has that knowledge that can deny a simple fact: PS$ is clearly superior technically.

Also, his whole argument about "only games matter" is quite idiotic 'cause even if it's true that games are the most important aspect for a console (and it's funny how THEY say this now when instead they are the ones that are LESS focused on games,lol),it's also true that there will be also a lot of games that will be released for both consoles, so only an idiot wouldn't aspire to get the better version (especially since the prices will be basically the exact same).

Finally, it's too convenient for Albert to say this when they are the ones to have a clearly inferior console, do you think that he would have told the same if the situation was the opposite? Please.......