Wii U 'slightly confusing', says Molyneux

Former Microsoft executive Peter Molyneux says Nintendo's new system is "good, but it's not great"; successful Wii U needed for industry growth.

Former Microsoft executive and now cofounder of independent studio 22Cans has sounded off on the Wii U. He told GamesIndustry International that he is generally pleased with Nintendo's first high-definition system, though he does have some reservations regarding its two-screen approach.

"I think the Wii U is good, but I don't feel it's great," Molyneux said. "I've played the experience, I've played Nintendo Land, I've played ZombiU, and they're good. I find holding the device in my hand--looking up at the screen and looking down at the device--slightly confusing as a consumer. It's good, but it's not great."

Molyneux added that the industry needs the Wii U to be "great" because competition is no longer solely in the form of console makers. Now, he said, competition comes through devices like Amazon's Kindle or Apple's iPad.

"And people like Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft need to match that. They need to match that in my mind, and exceed it. And I'm not sure the Wii U really did that," he said.

Despite his misgivings about the Wii U, Molyneux said a wise person would not bet against Nintendo, considering the worldwide phenomenon it created with the original Wii.

"I've got unbelievable respect for Nintendo," he said. "They created our industry in a very real sense. I can remember everybody in the industry laughing and giggling about how stupid the Wii was, what a stupid name it was, and who would want motion control. And then it went on to sell what, 60, 70 million copies? It got people who never considered computer games to play them."

Molyneux's Wii sales estimation is actually well below the system's actual figures. As of September 30, 2012, Nintendo has sold 97.18 million units of the aging console. Additionally, just this week, Nintendo announced the Wii Mini, a slimmed down, $100 version of the Wii due next week exclusively in Canada .

The Wii U launched in North America on November 18 and sold 400,000 units during its launch week. The system released today in Europe and Australia, and will launch in Japan on December 8.

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328 comments
Pugszly
Pugszly

Fable 3 was good but not great.

mikezer0
mikezer0

I swear, he is either slightly retarded or an unrequited genius.

TheOneToCall
TheOneToCall

Sounds like his Fable games, their good but not great.

archlvt
archlvt

Too confusing?  lol.  I guess something like this WOULD confuse him.  "all of this, with just one button".  Haha

DoomglooM
DoomglooM

I will get one of these before I get the next playstation...hopefully after the price goes down for both....frikk xbocks

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

I dont care what u think Peter Molyneux, im still getting one and im going to enjoy it to!

Blink18skull
Blink18skull

Oh, that's quite a insightful article... wait, Peter Molyneux? "Broken Promises" Molyneux? The guy who did Fable? Who cares what he says, when he can't even do all of the stuff he plans on his games?

hadlee73
hadlee73

Molyneux is confused. I'm not sure there's much else to say, really :P

oskuuu
oskuuu

"and who would want motion control" i still don't want motion control =/

DoomglooM
DoomglooM

hmm well 360's were failing and breaking down for YEARS after it was first released....even AFTER the FREEEE repairs...so I don't know why anyone would be so quick to judge the Wii U yet...o yeah they're STUPID

Geminon
Geminon

see i think the complete opposite. i think the Wii U needs to fail, and fail hard, taking Nintendo out of the hardware market and forcing them into a developer/publisher role like SEGA.

 

multiplatform Zelda on PS4 and XBOX720? your damn right that would be awesome. Nintendo has always made great games, but their consoles have been lackluster after the super nintendo.

jonsono2
jonsono2

This is the first time I've heard Molyneux sound realistic.

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

The wii u is good it might become great depending on if they get more titles as awesome as zombie u and bayonetta 2.  By the way i am not agreeing with peter the guy is an idiot he proves that buy seeing tablets as proper gaming devices because they are just not

mariokart64fan
mariokart64fan

and you cant possibly be confused with wii u and wii they have blue cases for their games and the box for wii u is totally different then wiis ,   also any store employee who is smart enough will  tell customers at gamestop that wii u games dont work on wiis  just like the walmart employee told me today lol 

mariokart64fan
mariokart64fan

lol norrie91 did you know wii  outsold the ps3 and 360  so i think thats a compliment ,  and yes i bought a pro controller its 50 bucks ten dollars cheaper then the 360 ps3 counterparts    -  you do not need a 2nd tablet controller it only works with one right now! 

Lothos_Delion
Lothos_Delion

Anyone tried to buy another controller for this thing yet...... YIKES expensive does not even cover it.

Norrie91
Norrie91

The Wii-U will suffer the same fate as the Wii.

Soon as the PS4 and neXbox are out it will be irrelevent.

JSusie
JSusie

The only thing Molyneux is any good at is overhyping average to poor products.

tgwolf
tgwolf

Well with all due respect and a whole lot less considering, this guy shouldn't be knocking Nintendo with it's track record, LEAST OF ALL speaking from the credentials of one who has had part in developing the XBox in any degree...

wildamnesia
wildamnesia

Kudos for Nintendo for giving it a go.  I'm with Peter, WiiU isn't my cup of tea - it's trying to bridge the gap between handheld gaming and console gaming.  Problem is that gap is there for a reason.

kavadias1981
kavadias1981

"Wii U 'slightly confusing', says Molyneux"

 

I suppose it would be for a man whose most recent accomplishment is that cube clicking game... I rest my case.

stig_wii
stig_wii

Can anybody explain to me why Peter Molyneux is held in such high regard? No one could dispute that his major works, Populous, Black & White and Fable, are worthy of praise, however there are thousands of game designers and directors out there with a far more comprehensive list of classics to their name that deliver on time, with professional discretion and without overpromising or courting the media at every possible turn. The sooner game journalists stop listening to this man, or consider his constant stream of against-the-grain opinion to be news, the better this industry will be.

grasshopper6
grasshopper6

microsoft needs to stop copying others just like they did with kinect from eye toy that came out on PS 2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yostryk
yostryk

I'm kind of surprised that he didn't promise to invent something that would make it great instead of just "good" and then inevitably fail to deliver on that promise.

parrot_of_adun
parrot_of_adun

"It got people who never considered computer games to play them."

 

No, Molyneux, it got people to *BUY* them, then leave a system sitting around doing nothing.

alkaline_DnB
alkaline_DnB

I think he speaks truth tho.  Wii U was confusing from the start, as most people didn't even know if it was a new console or not...it's a neat concept but not really intuitive.

Maybe I'm just not wowed by Nintendo like I used to be after owning the Wii.  Great ideas that will sell units around the holidays and a few more when some decent 1st party titles roll out.

SolanOcard
SolanOcard

You know why his new studio is called 22cans? Because he had a case of 24, 2 remain, leaving 22 empties. This is a metaphor for the creativity Molyneux has left: barely any. Case in point, instead of making something, he is talking about why others need to make something. Thanks Pete, for Fable 3. I loved the first game, enjoyed the second, and barely touched the third. The Fable series can only improve with a Peter-less Lionhead making it.

Chico86_basic
Chico86_basic

I have Mr. Molyneux in some regard, specially after this article which is unbiased and professional at it seems (thx Eddie), but he doesn't get Nintendo's profit it the sense that it has never been about numbers or technology, but the things that make you feel like you are... entertained!

theKSMM
theKSMM

That's one man's opinion.  The truth is that if Nintendo can get just a fraction of their Wii base to upgrade, they'll do fine.  Any improvements in the US economy will only benefit them as well.

iempire68
iempire68

Geez, what's confusing? Even if you are unsure, the pad or tv tells you where to look. I guess if you can't handle looking up or down the, wii u just for you Mr. M.

Rivboets7
Rivboets7

I was disappointed with the horrible update and the bad framerate on some of the ports.  Other that that though it seems like a decent console.  

Peyj
Peyj

Hah....yeah.  Guess he'd know.

Sunuva22
Sunuva22

cool that link part looked awesome

thekazumalord
thekazumalord

While i don't care about Molyneux ,the Wii U is a pile of garbage... the biggest innovation is the tablet controller.. and it's not even that great.. Wii U will sell to a lot of kids, moms and old people , just like the Wii... but over all it will still fail. especially if the recent games with freezing, slow loading times, inferior graphics, and poor ports that make good and great games into ok or bad games are any indication of the Wii U ability... or lack of

hystavito
hystavito

I wrote a long in depth comment, and then accidentally closed my browser, so the TL;DR version is Molyneux is a sell out heh, he's not the person I inagine he used to.

 

 I imagine the old Molyneux wouldn't say that a gaming system NEEDS to compete with mass market products that are purchased by people that don't care a whole lot for gaming, people that probably don't read gaming sites, the dreaded casuals.  The old Molyneux, I'd like to think, would say hey I don't care that people are playing games on tablets, I just want to make cool deep gaming experiences for real gamers.

 

Maybe I'd sell out too if I became successful like that, but I'm not so oh well, I'm still going to criticize others for it :).

ABakedAlien
ABakedAlien

Wii U and molyneux got one thing in common, they both suck.

Temperedelm
Temperedelm

It seems all I see from GameSpot on the Wii U is people criticizing it. While I really don't care about the console fandom it says something about GS that they skip over things like Sony admitting the Wii U looks awesome in favor of a guy whose games always disappoint saying it is confusing.

XenoNinja
XenoNinja

good, but it's not great....that's how I felt about all his games, but to be honest. I don't really care what he thinks.

baxwam
baxwam

See Moulynex!! That is what it feels like to be disappointed lol 

Devil_wings00
Devil_wings00

sigh another exec saying the future of gaming is on tablets and mobile. These guys really seem to be on a "consoles are dead" kick lately because angry birds made a bazillion dollars lol They do realize the difference don't they? I know there is some decent games on mobile that are lengthy but the touch screen just isn't made for most genre's and touch screen thumb sticks always feel weird.

SuperDutchy
SuperDutchy

Why does anyone listen to Peter Molyneux?  Everything is does is always 95% hype, never actually lives up to it's original premise and is all gimmick.  If any of the fable games ever actually delivered what he promised, they would have been revolutionary, but they didn't.  He talks a good game, but he really doesn't seem like the kind of person who people need to be listening to on this.  

 

Also, ever notice, whenever Peter Molyneux is about to come out with some new game, he prefaces the release with some big announcement and the announcements always go something like " Remember that cool thing I did like 25 years ago? well, I'm gonna try to do that again, and this time boobs and awesome and magic!"  

 

I have yet to see anything new from him give me boob, awesome or magic...sigh

thenephariouson
thenephariouson

Ill be honest, with the exception of his 'Bullfrog' days, his only 2 notible games are 'Black & White' and 'Fable'.  Other than that............... 

fafafanta
fafafanta

Molyneux is the master of mediocrity and false promises... who cares what that guy thinks?