Wii U 'effectively' an Xbox 360, says Microsoft

Studios boss Phil Spencer says Nintendo's upcoming console is on par with graphical capability of current gen, believes Pro Controller will lead to more Xbox 360 ports.

This holiday season, Nintendo will be the first of the Big Three to release next-generation hardware in the form of the Wii U. But according to comments from Microsoft's Phil Spencer to GamesIndustry International, the Wii U is only on par with current-generation consoles, like the Xbox 360.

The Wii U is just as powerful as an Xbox 360, says Microsoft.

"I think their Pro Controller makes a lot of sense with the platform they've built," he said. They are building a platform that is effectively a 360 when you think of graphical capability."

Nintendo announced the Wii U Pro Controller during a pre-E3 media event last month. This controller is similar in form factor to the Xbox 360's, which Spencer believes will make the Wii U a hotspot for Xbox 360 ports.

"Now they are really making an on-ramp for the back catalog of games that are on 360. It is easy for those games to move over to the Wii U. They've moved the buttons around, and they've made a controller that feels familiar for 360 gamers, so I get why they are putting those pieces together," he said.

This is not the first time it has been suggested that the Wii U will lag behind future consoles from Microsoft and Sony. Last month, Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida said the Wii U was in a generation of its own. And before that, a GameSpot survey found that the next Xbox and PlayStation 4 already have a leg up on the Wii U.

The Wii U is due out worldwide this holiday season, but Nintendo has yet to announce a price or a release date for the console. Speculation regarding the platform's release window has ranged from November to December, and Nintendo has promised a "reasonable" price for the console.

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skornedwarrior
skornedwarrior

The CPU might only be slightly more powerful than a PS3/360. But I've heard claims that the graphics chip and available RAM is vastly superior to the PS3/360.

 

But in reality Nintendo has something Microsoft currently does not, (after 2 console generations on the market for MS) more than 2 worthy exlusive (Halo, Gears) to polish up in HD graphics.

Anema1986
Anema1986

on par with 360??lol, nice try, wii u is 50% more powerful than xbox 360, and the best selling games on the wii u are not gonna be the ports from the 360/ps3

mariokart64fan
mariokart64fan

lol this is just pr talk , come on  people you know darn well wii u is going to be at least 50 percent more powerful then ps3 360 , yes its going to be easy to make and port games from 360 over to it , that doesn't exactly mean its not better ,   dont listen to this guy he does not have a clue cause first of all it was the gamecube controller that the xbox took its design from , as well as the dreamcast ,   (the color buttons dc the stick layout gamecube)

 

so they cant pro-claim nintendo is using thier xbox360 controller design lol

Regulus27
Regulus27

PC makers effectively call Xbox 360 a "optimized PC".

Is there a point to this article? Nintendo always does the least expensive systems while Microsoft and Sony do the most technology driven systems. I still get both systems.

megamanxzxz
megamanxzxz

from what I have read the WiiU GPU outputs raw 1080p data while the 360 and PS3 both upscale from 720, so yes the WiiU GPU will have better graphics

DCUltrapro
DCUltrapro

who wants to buy software for a NEXT GEN machine that they've already seen years before on the 360/ps3?? and they won't have any form of WII U specific hardware support so it will be utterly pointless. I think Nintendo are fighting an uphill battle, the thought of having to buy a second controller out of the box has put me off entirely. Nintendo is all about consumer spend... the 3DS XL is a prime example of their incredible abillity to stitch the consumers up. How many of you 3DS owners WISH you had waited and bought the bigger one?? its a joke, and the cost of peripherals for the Wii U will be ridiculous once again. 

Thunderbear24
Thunderbear24

Micro Soft are also worried about Sony's deal as they invested millions on a cloud game networking company. Wii U will also be bring out their own cloud gaming network as far as I have read. Because of this new development, Micro Soft are rushing to make their own too. I think Micro Soft are trying to complete buy attacking other companies. They even had issues with Onlive.

Jshaw71
Jshaw71

I have heard that the Wiiu's gpu is a step above the 360's 5-6 year old gpu, I am not sure what they are trying to say about the wiiu's pro controller, but the system (WiiU) Looks good but i am not sure when i will get it, i think i am trading my wii in for a WiiU hopefully getting zombiU too, but i am not sure when that comes out... 

PlyrMava
PlyrMava

If anyone is confused about this article, the idiot trying to dis the Wii U is only dissing the tablet controller. Personally, I think it is incredible that a tablet for gaming has 1080p resolution and is MORE powerful than the 360. Also, Nintendo is not yet finished with the graphical area for the Wii U console. I thought this guy knew that the console was more powerful. Then again, I am more concerned with the gameplay more than the graphics. Obviously, a majority of gaming Devs are only concerned with making a game look beautiful rather than having superb gameplay.That formula is what caused Sony to fail this generation. I am looking forward to the next-gen Nintendo console. I will have to see for myself what this Wii U (which should be renamed, by the way) is capable of, since some sources are saying the Wii U is on par with the 360, and other sources are saying it is significantly more powerful than the PS3. 

Pattonfiend67
Pattonfiend67

so you guys are hiring 12-year old children right off of the street?

 

look at the little kid who wrote this article... craziness...

8bitgen
8bitgen

wish they could at least start pre-orders on the console if they plan november-december launch. they sell more with wide pre-order window.

nonfanboygamer1
nonfanboygamer1

Nintendo's "next gen" on par with current 360. What an oximoron, and the contoller more likely resembles a tablet, not a 360 controler.

Ganados0
Ganados0

Long time Nintendo gamer here and I am annoyed Wii U evidently is not future proof. I will not defend Nintendo's decision this time, they are taking the piss and deserve to be burned this time.

Mr_Bodywave
Mr_Bodywave

I think people are finally starting to realize that the the Wii U is not "next gen" it is THIS gen--just 6 years late.  There is NOTHING about the Wii U that is "next gen" and a whole lot that is "this gen".    It might do ok for a while now that it has caught up, but quickly (2013) it will be left behind again.  But hey--it might get a bunch of old xbox360 ports!

LordWaffleKing
LordWaffleKing

Rocks are effectively food. They have the same mineral content, vital to a growing body. And they're edible. Sort of. Only food tastes better and stuff.

rarson
rarson

"They are building a platform that is effectively a 360 when you think of graphical capability."

 

Sure, except the Wii U can actually render games in 1080p.

Killer6b9
Killer6b9

Repost since people still don't seem to get it.......

 

well here is a interesting video that I had found....I have nothing to do with this info but found it interesting non the less......  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcnsG11MRE8

 

I sure hope this helps......

sacatash
sacatash

So Phil Spencer is telling me that Nintendo is making an Xbox 360 that can also play Nintendo exclusives?!

 

Sold.  I'll take 10, please!!

Garysafc25
Garysafc25

This is all us Nintendo fans have been waiting for a Nintendo HD console. Let us enjoy it with all the exclusives and along with the ports. Everyone else against it SHUT THE HELL UP!

steve4123456789
steve4123456789

I can't see it doing well. Think its going to fail controllers are expensive as hell, and no original games, 360 game ports isn't going to do it; those games were beaten years ago chances are most people have owned a 360, or ps3 before, and played those games.

nccpeter
nccpeter

Whatever, it's not like they are going to admit the competition has an advantage.

Lordcrabfood
Lordcrabfood

Stopped caring about nintedo when they began marketing their console towards primary school kids and over weight moms.

doom-247
doom-247

I see there is a lot of debate on the Wii U lacking in graphical capabilities and as someone mentioned the unreal 4 tech demo shown surpasses current gen consoles but what console gamers seem to forget is if you want the best GRAPHICS buy a PC. Graphics aren't everything either just look at games such as minecraft, journey or even the half life series none of which demand to much from a current gen  console (excluding the Wii) or pc's graphics card. Most of the time when developers start to worry more about how good their game looks they forget to build a core gameplay experience an example of this is the trend of FPS games such as CRYSIS were the graphical boost compensates for a run of the mill storyline and gameplay.

 

TL:DR Version

So to recap, If you want the best graphics you get a GAMING PC and remember that GOOD GRAPHICS doesn't equal GOOD GAME.

SadPSPAddict
SadPSPAddict

Well I can see the future.....it will sell enormously well while being slatted by so called hardcore gamers and shunned by them. I certainly have no interest in getting one at this point. If the game line up looks good and interests the whole family then might tempt me 

kinghorn316
kinghorn316

effectively an xbox no you noob it is not micro crap THIS IS NINTENDO tottaly different ball game son

hatieshorrer
hatieshorrer

"Effectively an Xbox 360" and it has free online without the financhal problems of Sony.  Why do I think this will succeed.

AzatiS
AzatiS

When you see a company promoting controller way more than console itself almost 2 years now , its common logic why.

 

And NO , i wont give 300$$ for a slightly better X360 that FOR SURE will end up losing again MAJOR AAA next-gen games just to play a new mario or zelda. No way ill do that... Dont want another Wii like console.

BREEMO510
BREEMO510

yes i'm a wii fan but i also like (ps-xbox) i think there all great consoles like if u agree

BREEMO510
BREEMO510

yes i'm a wii fan but i also like (xbox-ps3) there all great consoles !

ekalbtwin
ekalbtwin

M$ needs to look at its own strategy and remember they are headed down the same path that the Wii took almost 7 year ago.  I know its common practice to put down your competition and all, but what this guy is saying is rather ineffective when they are all gaga over motion controls.  And please spare me the "wii is fail and da others is sellingz better" crap.  The wii has sold almost 100 million units. 

wyan_
wyan_

Microsoft and Sony are really quite generous in a manner of speaking; willing to take some initial loss, both driven to make hardware that will allow developers to wow us with more than just graphics. Nintendo... you cheap, cheap, contrived, conniving big bastards. This gen you sold us the cheapest possible motion control with inferior hardware and raked in the dough laughing all the way to the bank. We only played your Wii for the thimble sized dose of first party exclusives and one or two other games. You're innovative, but you don't commit. If you weren't so tight fisted you could really trounce Sony and Microsoft. You fooled many with the Wii, but even the casual gamer will be wary of the Wii 1.4 this time around. Wintendo 360 indeed.

rexCo
rexCo

I'm glad of this personally. Graphics really don't need to advance much beyond what the PS360 are rocking now, if you ask me. And this will only make the WiiU price tag that much lower. Golden. The only downside: 3rd parties not bringing good ports to the Wii U library.  

mat989
mat989

So, basically it'll be like the Dreamcast was on the PSX/N64 generation? Gamespot knew it all along....

edant79
edant79

Nintendo's most important asset isn't its hardware nor should it be....., its their IPs.

 

...and they ain't porting those over to Xbox.

TruthTellers
TruthTellers

Yoshida-san is right. The Wii U is in a generation of its own... a generation of original ideas not stolen from other console makers. Except the wii60 controller.

Legend-KiIIer
Legend-KiIIer

Wii U will be the current Wii when Microsoft & Sony will launch their next-gen console.

Jedilink109
Jedilink109

I love all  these people who obviously hate Nintendo already coming in here to just bash on Nintendo even though no one in here has even played ANY WiiU games in the first place.  Real classy, internet.  Keep up my exceedingly low expectations for you and your comments on everything, most of which you probably have no legitimate clue about in the first place.

VenkmanPHD
VenkmanPHD

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Just go kill yourself Nintendo (as far as consoles go) You have become useless, and sub-par.

 

Where is a good Sega System when you need one these days? *Sigh*

Chaos_Dante_456
Chaos_Dante_456

with a dangerous economy, and mobile games becoming more and more relevant consoles should not be taking shots at each other. I'd hate to say it this next gen may even be the last gen of consoles. THe way technology is advancing you may be able to do everything from your TV 20-30 yrs from now.

Chaos_Dante_456
Chaos_Dante_456

well depending on how the economy goes the WiiU might have a leg up with cheaper pricing. Haven't been a Nintendo guy in some years but I hope they stay around don't want people losing their jobs

giedrius1001
giedrius1001

Wii U is biggest fail of all time, in par with xbox 360 graphics :D, no mature games, its useless as it was Wii, nintendo will be the last of the big three, nintendo is no more competition to sony and Microsoft, wii just proof that, 2 years as Wii is at retailers bottom list, nobodies buying them, so same will be with Wii U but just from beggining of its cycle 

Cozm1kaos
Cozm1kaos

Personally, I would rather side with Nintendo but WII was not HD =(. However, now that WII-U is in HD hell yea I am buying it!! Even if they did not have adult games!! I don't care!! Mario games own!! Nintendo is so much fun but a lot of ppl only look for graphics!!! Nintendo makes products with quality and is the only system I can trust to buy at launch. GO NINTENDO GO support from me all the way, I want my kids to aslo grow up playing Mario games. Dedicated to its customers as I am to them!!

firstclassgamer
firstclassgamer

I meant *does that mean Rare can make games for Nintedo if they wanted to

I_are_Cake
I_are_Cake

Given Microsoft's move towards casual gaming, I'm not listening to their PR. I don't care about graphics or controllers; its not about how you play the game, its about *the* game. If the Wii U delivers hardcore titles like ZombiU, Assassin's Creed III, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Mass Effect 3, Rainbow Six: Patriots, Black Ops II (its *hardcore* by Wii standards), Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge, Medal of Honor: Warfighter, Darksiders II, Ghost Recon Online, etc. as promised and nothing more, then I'll buy it. If it delivers casual/kid/family games like Just Dance, Your Shape, Nintendoland, Wii Fit U (*insert* sex joke), Rabbids, Scribblenauts, etc. with *some* core games, then I won't buy it.

dawnofhero
dawnofhero

Even if this is a gen behind, I think Nintendo can pull this one off. It's their first system that has HD support, a proper online network, and a new way to play games with the pad controller. Is any of that stuff new? No (except the game pad controller), but at least Nintendo gave us something better than the Wii. And so what if PS4 and 720 (or whatever they'll be called) get better technology... then buy one of those systems too. Buy the WiiU to play Mario and other first party titles while the PS4/720 can be for other games.