Why is the PS4 outselling the Xbox One? Microsoft weighs in

Yusuf Mehdi says, "They're in 40+ markets, we're in 13," and claims Xbox 360 owners are enjoying the systems so much they are less inclined to upgrade.

With more than 7 million units sold to date, Sony's PlayStation 4 is the top-selling new console, ahead of Microsoft's Xbox One, which has shipped (not sold) 5 million units to date. In an interview with Forbes, Microsoft chief marketing and strategy officer Yusuf Mehdi laid out some reasons why his console is lagging behind, at least right now.

"It's hard to really assess the gap in sales," Mehdi said. "[Sony is] in many more markets right now than we are. They're in 40+ markets, we're in 13." The PS4 won't have a such a dramatic regional availability advantage for much longer, as the Xbox One will be released in Japan and 25 other regions in September.

Another reason why the Xbox One has fallen behind the PS4 in terms of sales so far is because, according to Mehdi, Xbox 360 owners enjoy their systems more than PlayStation 3 owners do, so they are less inclined to upgrade.

"People have been more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so in that respect people have less of a need to upgrade in the short-term due to regular updates for the Xbox 360," Mehdi said. "We could point to any number of things."

Addressing the impact the Xbox One's new $399 price point could have on the platform's viability going forward, Mehdi said the new price "broadens the appeal and hopefully brings more people to Xbox One sooner." He acknowledged that the original $499 price point was too steep an asking price for some gamers.

For more on this week's major Microsoft news, be sure to read GameSpot's staff editorial about how the Xbox One's new $399 price point will affect the ongoing console war.

Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and you can follow him on Twitter @EddieMakuch
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Discussion

990 comments
r9270
r9270

Do people really believe anything just because it comes from a guy in a suit? WT? This is lies! Neither the ps4 or xbox one is selling very well at all! Nobody wants a expensive piece of junk that spies on them and pretends restrictions are features! Since the Xbox One and PS4 have come out PC sales have went through the roof! And PC sales are continuing to raise and raise each day! The majority of gamers playing next gen are PC gamers. This is because a low mid range PC can run anything the PS4 and XBox One can and with better graphics. And you are free and have no restrictions! And a PC is much more than just a gaming machine. Also you can now build a PC that will run all games and cost less. So the popular way to go today is PC gaming! Everyone one I know now has a gaming Rig! Even people who swore they would never game on PC have a new Gaming Rig. LOL It's like a gaming RIG revolution! And unlike the liars at Microsoft, This is the truth 100%  Look at steam's new stats LOL! That says it all!

sampson3121
sampson3121

wow! the excuses are priceless...just sad really.

Dizzy1976
Dizzy1976

All I read was "  Well we failed to launch in as many markets as Sony did  so they beat us there, and secondly we failed to set a good price point because we felt the need to force our lousy camera into everyone's hands which they obviously did not want."

ph1nn
ph1nn

I just bought the most powerful and affordable console, which is PS4.

Now it just needs some RPGs and Adventure titles, I'm sick of all these shooters. Battlefield 4 Premium then maybe Destiny is plenty until COD with Zombies hits in 2015.

Bleak5170
Bleak5170

"He acknowledged that the original $499 price point was too steep....."

     Well there's a nice kick in the teeth for people who bought the console at launch.

HuSSaR83
HuSSaR83

Most people love their consoles so much they immediately want to upgrade to better version to hold the new controller at least. MS come out with better explanation for your failures come on...lol 

ScottOakley
ScottOakley

"People have been more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so in that respect people have less of a need to upgrade in the short-term due to regular updates for the Xbox 360,"

They are not more satisfied with the xbox 360, they just bought a PS4. 

suchet9
suchet9

the main reason why PS4 is outselling Xbox one is the better marketing and because of reviews - people want to buy the more powerful console. 

markranger
markranger

He's right. I love my 360, so no need to upgrade. But, I was so tired of my PS3 and hated it so much that I ran out and upgraded to the 4 as soon as I could. Yeah, this logic makes so much sense--to MS.

thedemon44
thedemon44

Another Microsoft employee on drugs. Sorry we are not that gullible.

crunchydragon
crunchydragon

all i know is I have had many problems with my Xbox 1. From countless minor glitches (not being able to open apps, apps disappearing from my home screen, games not loading) that come and go, to the interface just not performing anywhere near advertised, (hand motion is almost impossible to get to work smoothly or quickly, or hand motion activates in the middle of a movie because you lifted a glass or something and then freaks out all over the place, voice commands are difficult to issue because it doesn't hear you or misunderstands what you say and I can never seem to remember all of the very specifically worded commands, you have very clunky control between snapping screens, you cannot view the system info etc. as easily as you could on 360). Then after the product is shoddy especially for the price tag I have to deal with big game developers being bought out to ship unfinished work (BF4) or to delay content or to increase prices on the original game and DLC that should be in the game to begin with. If you cut all the expenses in half I wouldn't complain because that seems to be about what it's worth. And I don't want to switch to PS because I don't feel like learning a new controller only to have to deal with the same exclusivity BS. I can finally afford a decent PC so that is where I am headed. I personally am done buying consoles unless there is a serious turn around next gen. So basically I am going to play CD Projekt Red games for the rest of my life.

amar1234
amar1234

lol  they think people enjoy the 360 more so they wont upgrade. ROFL, that is not the reason lol , that hasv never stopped people from upgrading  . 


ITs very simple, people are more savvy consumers in this day and age, they want the more better value for money, and better tech. You get that with ps4.

DeanoFantasy
DeanoFantasy

The reason is simple he just said it in his statement, I remember paying about £450 for the PS3 at launch in GAME in the UK, compared to the PS4 price £350 is cheep.

My Fujitsu Lifebook A series laptop cost me £300 a few years back and that has an Intel based graphics card and doesn't even have a blu-ray player.


The PS4 pad on its own is £60 in shops so that's £290 technically for a PS4, I got mine at Sainsburys with 20% staff discount and with £30 off with nectar points so I managed to get a PS4, Thief and MGSGZ all for £287.


Ive always been PlayStation and I think its far cheaper this gen to go PS compared to last gen.

longjohnnimrod
longjohnnimrod

I'm sticking with my #XBox360 because I'm poor. If anyone would like to Donate the money for a new console be it #XBoxOne or #PS4 to me, let me know cause I would be glad to let you buy me one! #LjN #WAiG 

joshua6775
joshua6775

It's all about price point, always has been. BOTH systems are priced too high, imo. NEITHER system has great games yet and to continue to argue which one is better is pointless.  PS4 outsells because it is CHEAPER, period.

vic320
vic320

I'm not a big fan of playstation, but i really prefer the playstation games. I mean, i don't even like games as Halo or Titanfall, the only game that I liked was gears of war and that game wasn't the best game i've ever played, so i think that Sony right now it's better.

juka75
juka75

"Yusuf Mehdi says, "They're in 40+ markets, we're in 13," and claims Xbox 360 owners are enjoying the systems so much they are less inclined to upgrade."


Bullsh*t, even their executives are full of sh*t. More poeple buy PS3 than 360s. And the X1 jut isnt that good. Almost twice as many peopl want it in comparsion to the X1. And even MS fans dont care for ti that much. Also, even if MS was in all the same countries, the PS4 would still be outselling, just like it outsells it in both the US and UK, MS's stringest markets. MS, is full of sh*t and coming off as desperate. Thats what you get, for bringing out a unimpressive and overpriced POS system.

nyran125tk
nyran125tk

whatever, Playstation , XBOX, why care? both are miles behind the PC in hardware and both have practically the SAME games on them. A part from the last of us (and a few others), theres 143 exclusive PS3 games and 6% of them are worth owning (ive done the math, the rest of them are multiplatform games you can play on whatever you want) and theres even less Xbox exclusives than that.


So just get a gamebox or a gamestation and just enjoy whatever you have and stop being fanboys of a single company and just thank your lucky stars theres any competition at all and not just 1 console ruling everything. (Accept for PC of course, that is miles ahead in hardware capabilities, but thats never changed and never will)

Godlikan
Godlikan

Because it hardware superior to it and more cheaper...

I-am-Error
I-am-Error

After 20 minutes, I think the laughter has just about subsided enough for me to type...!!!

Oh, sweet Jesus, this is my most favourite thing I've ever read! Someone get that 'X-Box owners more satisfied than PS3 owners' line memed IMMEDIATELY!

WolfGrey
WolfGrey

"People have been more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so in that respect people have less of a need to upgrade in the short-term due to regular updates for the Xbox 360," Mehdi said. "We could point to any number of things."

Wow....you guys really know how to be asshats don't ya?

The 360 sold less in the end so more people apparently own ps3s.Same as PS4. But i am not going to go out and say they enjoy their systems more than someone else just because of the console they bought.

No you want to know why you sell so dam less than Sony when it comes to PS4 vs X1? Lets make a list :

1. You came with up with some of the most ridiculous policies any had ever seen in gaming for a very long time. They were completely designed to put as much control over the consumer as possible. We fully understand that you are here to make money and corporations can be a little shady about it. But we did not expect you to be this blatant. And A LOT of people aren't going to forget it. Switching them around only partially repaired a tiny bit of your rep. The damage was done.

2. Price(for quite a while). 500 for a system with a device a lot of people don't want and for a system performing worse on 3rd party games. Ya nothing will go wrong what that right?


3. The inability to stick to your guns. Constantly changing for no other reason than your bottomline. Never mind straight out lying or blaming us saying it was because we have the INABILITY to understand your "vision".


4. The Kinect.(til recently). I don't even need to explain this one.


5. The immense PR disasters that never seem to stop coming. The PR for the last few years have been awful but never has it been so bad since the X1 was unveiled. You are seriously stomping your rep into the ground with it and proving that Microsoft is a incredibly arrogant company. Even worse numerous nations already don't like americans or how our gaming communities are so when one of our big companies is making this bad of Pr on the constant what are the chances they are going to respect you? Nil.


I could go on but i have no need to. 25 countries more won't make a difference. You don't well in those countries anyway, they are Sony Territory. Actually all countries are now, even the US. You aren't going to catch up. Your sales will be respectable but you won't touch the PS4.


You reap what you sow.



Anyway my rant they will never see is over now.

PSdual_wielder
PSdual_wielder

'Xbox 360 owners enjoy their systems more than PlayStation 3 owners do'

this one is going to be a classic

munkeypoo45
munkeypoo45

lolz I haven't upgraded to a Ps4 yet. I'm still enjoying the plethora of games on my ps3. 

TheExxorcist
TheExxorcist

Microsoft can't do any more back pedaling than It's already done. It has given in to all of the controversial aspects of its Xbox One announcement in just six months.

Xbox One banned used game sales and then it didn't. It was supposed to have 24-hour daily check-ins for DRM purposes and then it didn't.

It wasn't due to support indie game developers, and now it is. A plugged-in Kinect was to be required and now it isn't.

It was more expensive than PS4 and now it's not. It had to come with that vital Kinect motion controller, and next month it won't.

There's a minority opinion that some of these ideas were good and that the Microsoft didn't stand its ground when the backlash against its policies started trending on Twitter.

Gamers weren't ready for some of these big changes, but even when the ideas went through, like including the Kinect, Microsoft showed us that it wasn't ready either.

Stepn2myworld
Stepn2myworld

"People have been more satisfied with the Xbox 360 than the PS3, so in that respect people have less of a need to upgrade in the short term..."

Somebody please muzzle this executive. What is he reading from cue cards? 

There are two primary reasons the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One. First is the price point. A $100 difference is huge. Sony learned it lesson after PS3 launch. Microsoft, who immediately reaped the benefits of $600 competitor, slipped on the same banana peel with Xbox One price point. 

The second reason is the backlash from the Xbox One reveal. Even though Microsoft reversed itself on those early policy decisions, the damage was done. 

I would not say that PS4 is just better than the Xbox One. That is ultimately going to be decided by the quality exclusive games released for the console. After you eliminate the other mitigating factors describe above. 

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

I know these articles are totally for flame wars but let's get something out the way on why 360 did so well; and from the beginning..


* Came out before PS3

* Cheaper than PS3

* Halo 3 & Gears of War

* Developers made better port versions for 360

* Everyone liked the controller

* Better online service/ though at a cost


Now without being a fanboy we can sum up the things XBox One has not done right. 


It has exclusives; but Ryse and Forza are for niche audiences when compared to Gears and Halo. Which are mainstream.


TitanFall is not XBox One exclusive so this to many means very little, when 360 and PC get the exact same game. & online only isn't for everyone.


Lastly, even without the price difference you get a machine that developers are not favouring over its competition.


Gaming history shows the preferred platform for developers tends to be the public's favourite as well. 

LegendaryBadass
LegendaryBadass

I'm on my 8th Xbox 360. With the way M$ has treated me, I can't reward them with buying the Xbox One.

jellyman68
jellyman68

To be fair to Microsoft, although their console is rubbish, they do provide Windows, which is easily the best platform for gaming.

dog
dog

Pc! PcPc!

jablocanas
jablocanas

@ph1nn  Every since the new Wolfenstein was able to achieve 1080p and 60fps on both consoles I no longer look at the PS4 as more powerful.  I think the Kinect is eating up GPU resources on the XB1 still and people are having a more challenging time programming the memory architecture of the XB1 but straight up power-wise, I don't believe that is the case anymore since Wolfenstein -- agreed with you on the variety of games though.  Child of Light was pretty but waiting until Dragon Age to really satisfy that RPG thirst...

Dizzy1976
Dizzy1976

@ScottOakley and if they are still playing the 360 its because the next gen launch line up SUCKED.  lol

f3kuinth3a55gs
f3kuinth3a55gs

@ScottOakley yeah probably, I had an early 360 untill it died and I couldnt get it repaired under warrenty, will not be getting any consoles untill the 2nd revision (at least) ever again. for now I'll stick to my PC and when I feel the time is right i'll get one or both of the consoles for exclusives i have missed, so long as the fail rate is acceptable and they have had a price drop. and yes, I know the wiiU exists, I have one because I know Nintentos history, they make rock solid hardware, even if their last 2 consoles were outdated at launch the build quality is awesome and lets face it, they make brilliant games especially for when you have a few friends around, my girlfriend will play wii/u with me etc. I certianly didnt get it for the multiplat, infact when it comes to multiplats I go pc every time, cheaper, better graphics and your choice of controls, my consoles are purely for exclusives.

jablocanas
jablocanas

@suchet9  You know it's funny that people are saying that b/c the new Wolfenstein is able to run at 1080p/60fps on both consoles steadily.  Does that mean Carmack who coded the idTech5 engine is just a superior programmer to most lead programmers at other companies or is it just b/c the console is new that some companies are having a more difficult time reaching 1080p?  I think Wolfenstein being able achieve that steady resolution/framerate on both platforms is more indicative of the people at other companies still learning how to optimize the architecture of XB1 b/c if at least one game can match those specs on both it's clearly not impossible...

bdrtfm
bdrtfm

@amar1234 lol yourself. Get a clue. Just because you have an opinion, doesn't make it fact. I know dozens of people who just can't afford an X1 right now but will get one in the future. I also know many people who are waiting for more X1 games to come out as they still have plenty of 360 games they haven't finished yet.


If what you are saying were true then, the PS4 would have sold 20 million or more by now. People are waiting for various reasons. Your reasons for upgrading and your economic status are yours and yours alone. Not everyone can go out and spend $400 on a piece of electronics on a whim. Most wait for Xmas or more games. I have an X1 and PS4 and I spend a lot more time on my 360 than my PS3, PS4, and X1 combined.

kb9h2opolo
kb9h2opolo

@juka75  Overpriced, yes.Unimpressive, no. And the PS3 didn't outsell the 360. Keep jerking off to Sony, I won't interrupt your flawed rant any more.

omgmike23
omgmike23

I completely agree with you 100%. I've owned a ps4 since launch and have played if quite often. Bought an xbox one from a friend a few days ago...I haven't even touched it.

0m39AX
0m39AX

@RSM-HQ  Let's not forget the fact that X360 had all of that redlights problem, and it was a HUGE problem in the beggining. Another thing to consider: apparently, it was easier to program for 360 than to PS3; it seems to be the opposite. And, of course, the price factor(well, not here in Brazil, in which XONE is MUCH cheaper than PS4). 

E-Major
E-Major

@jellyman68  ........are you REALLY using WINDOWS as a "Microsoft doesn't suck" card. Because It's the other way around. XBox was the only thing that Microsoft hadn't F'ed UP. I mean it took 2 iterations of Windows 8 to make the OS something that gamers would use, and don't even get me started on Vista. Seems to me that whoever does the strategics and decides on developmental targets for Windows was also responsible for the XBox One.

f3kuinth3a55gs
f3kuinth3a55gs

@jablocanas @suchet9It is a bit of both as far as Carmack's programming and other devs getting used to the console but it's also the consoles that are to blame, both are underpowered and there will need to be some serious optimisation to produce games that are considered "next gen" and by the way, I hate that overused and misused term, because they are the current gen once they are released.

suchet9
suchet9

@jablocanas @suchet9  I am in total agreement with you - there is a lack of info on both big consoles from Sony and Microsoft.   The fact that they've achieved 1080p on Xbox One surprises me as I wasn't aware of it.   I've been a lifelong Nintendo and Sony Playstation gamer and  I have to admit I'm irritated by the fact that the PS4 was marketed as being easy to develop for and that developers would create games for it quickly - more than 6 months after release im still waiting for a decent RPG game to come out for it.  By the way I might get Wolfenstein now that you mention it. 

jellyman68
jellyman68

@E-Major I didn't say it's perfect. I said it was the best platform for gaming. There are plenty of operating systems out there and plenty of advantages and disadvantages to each, but the fact remains that currently there's no viable gaming platform out there with as many options as Microsoft Windows. No console can run as many games as Windows, no other operating system is compatible with so many titles, and if you want the best graphics and mods, there's simply no other option. 

If you can name a better platform then I'm more than willing to try it, but I'm pretty sure Microsoft Windows is the best at the moment. 

jablocanas
jablocanas

@suchet9 @jablocanas @f3kuinth3a55gs  Lol, that does suck that it doesn't have a YouTube app yet.  I wish the XB1 had straight upload to YouTube but instead it has upload to Sky/OneDrive instead.  


Both companies have said they're working on backwards compatibility of sorts.  PS with Now/Gaikai streaming and XB with an actual emulator.  It would be nice to get rid of my 360 and only have two boxes if they built an emulator but I think we won't see that for at least a year or two if MS does go that route.  They're still updating XB1 really regularly as a priority.  I'm looking fwd to the June update since it launched for all the TV/SmartGlass enhancements.  Hoping it includes scheduling future TV shows also through OneGuide...

suchet9
suchet9

@jablocanas @f3kuinth3a55gs @suchet9  Yes it's very frustrating especially since I am still waiting for a youtube app to appear on the PS4 which doesn't really take a lot of development skills.    They could resolve a lot of frustration by making the consoles backward compatible with an update, at least the console would not be gathering dust.

jablocanas
jablocanas

@f3kuinth3a55gs @jablocanas @suchet9  I can agree with that.  Most people thought we would get revolutionary upgrades in AI and graphics with the XB1 and PS4 but it seems more evolutionary instead...

Dark-Exsphere
Dark-Exsphere

@a687947 @Dark-Exsphere
VG chartz may be unofficial but when Sony announced their 7milllion PS4 sales, VG chartz already had actual numbers down. Same with when PS3 and 360 hit their 80million mark, Its the most up-to-date website i could find. The articles you have sexually presented before me are 6-7 months old. Go back and re-read my comment, i stated that after ps4, ps3 sales went up and surpassed the 360 week after week and now their total sales are higher.
 
and yes, microsoft with their 1 year xbox 360 lead hit 80 million about a month before ps3.
but that doesn't change what happened afterwards. And do not forget, microsofts Xbox 360 had a pretty decent failure rate that forced people to repurchase the console.

If you can find an article that is recent and not old, then we can continue this debate furiously, and then... sexually.