Why do more PS4 games run in 1080p than Xbox One? Sniper Elite dev explains

Part of the reason why more games output in 1080p on PS4 is because the Xbox One's eSRAM is "just a little bit too small," Sniper Elite 3 dev says.

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Why do more PlayStation 4 games run in 1080p compared to the Xbox One? Sniper Elite 3 developer Rebellion Games senior producer Jean-Baptiste Bolcato told GamingBolt that part of the issue comes down to the Xbox One's eSRAM.

"I think eSRAM is easy to use. The only problem is…Part of the problem is that it’s just a little bit too small to output 1080p within that size," he said. "It's such a small size within there that we can't do everything in 1080p with that little buffer of super-fast RAM."

"It means you have to do it in chunks or using tricks, tiling it and so on. It's a bit like the reverse of the PS3. PS3 was harder to program for than the Xbox 360. Now it seems like everything has reversed but it doesn't mean it’s far less powerful--it’s just a pain in the ass to start with. We are on fine ground now but the first few months were hell."

This is why, Bolcato said, you see more games running in 1080p on PS4 compared to Xbox One, a fact that has drawn debate and controversy for months now. Rebellion Games is targeting 1080p/60fps for both the Xbox One and PS4 versions of Sniper Elite 3.

Bolcato said he's sure the development process for Xbox One will get easier over time and it's already improved since Rebellion began work on the platform, he said.

"We were worried six months ago and we are not anymore," he said. "It’s got better and they are quite comparable machines. The Xbox One is a bit more multimedia, a bit more hub-centric so its a bit more complex. There’s stuff you can and can't do because it’s a sort of multimedia hub. PS4 doesn’t have that. PS4 is just a games machine."

This is why, according to Bolcato, the PS4--at least on paper--is "a bit more powerful," he said. "But I think the Xbox One is going to catch up."

For more on the exact technical differences between the Xbox One and PS4, check out this chart.

Sony has previously said the reason why PS4 games sport better visual performance is because the console is the system developers want. Meanwhile, Microsoft has said that "these little things get way overblown" about the 1080p/60fps debate.

Discussion

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jark888
jark888

One example I'm experiencing right now is playing Mass Effect series is much better on PS3 than Xbox360. It is cheaper and no hassle of changing discs during gameplay(reduce gaming immersion). More DLC included and not required Xbox Live on multiplayer modes.


Hate that DLC of Mass Effect 2 are still so pricey on Xbox 360 while individual version of it on PS3 are FREE!!!


This may sound irrelevant, but the point is that Sony's developed better relationship with publishers to offer better deals for their consumers. Example as seen in exclusive products and content on Assassin Creed, Metal Gear, GTA series, and many more AAA titles.

blackace
blackace

Why was this piece of info skipped out of the interview on Gamespot? the part about Microsoft releasing new SDK that are much faster.


Will the process become easier over time as understanding of the hardware improves? “[b]Definitely, yeah. They are releasing a new SDK that’s much faster and we will be comfortably running at 1080p on Xbox One.[/b] We were worried six months ago and we are not anymore, it’s got better and they are quite comparable machines. The Xbox One is a bit more multimedia, a bit more hub-centric so its a bit more complex. There’s stuff you can and can’t do because it’s a sort of multimedia hub. PS4 doesn’t have that. PS4 is just a games machine.”
Read more at http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-ones-esram-too-small-to-output-games-at-1080p-but-will-catch-up-to-ps4-rebellion-games#ydLoDhd6k9YPYxHr.99

guardianofhonor
guardianofhonor

Yeah there is like 2 games that run in 1080p on PS4 that dont on the Xboxone, so a little early to make that assumption.

illusotandem
illusotandem

I just want to say XB1, but i somehow manage to always say XBONE...wtf!?

OtherFabbros
OtherFabbros

All is explained during the past E3: 


Sony listened the Costumer's complaints and request and take into account during The PS4's development 


Microsoft gives a f*** about what his costumers wants....



Result: Ps4 is a young but fully potential leader of 8th generation, Xbox One is a fully bugged and Expensive Console.  



BlendThree
BlendThree

Interesting article- I sort of figured the multimedia-centric nature of the XBone would make things bit more complex and this confirms it.  Funny how the whole dynamic swapped from the last gen.

funkyzoom
funkyzoom

This is one of  the reasons why I stick with the PC! Its ALWAYS 1080p for me! Have never played on consoles (not since the SNES days), and never will.

Morphine_OD
Morphine_OD

The SDK upgrade is a pathetic argument. eSRAM is too small to output 1080p effortlessly, sure some performance is wasted on developer's attempts at being clever, but no SDK can miraculously make eSRAM big enough. It will still be slower than PS4's output. SDK will only ease thinks for the developers and improve performance in games being developed by talentless hacks.

cwells126
cwells126

Heard it from the horses mouth. Now all this speculation as to 'why' the XB1 can't do 1080p can rest. It's not a developer thing; its a hardware thing. 

gornes79
gornes79

I wonder why they don't create a benchmark program, as those for PCs and smartphones. A benchmark that would show how CPUs, memory units, and GPUs of different consoles stand to each other. And it should be on old gen as well.

But I am afraid we are not going to see it...naturally Microsoft wouldn't let it go through

Kinguard73
Kinguard73

Wow. So they will get better with the Xbox while the PS4 refuses to be optimized too? It sounds like a M$ PR buy off but meh we will see. It would nice to see this was just a goof on Xbox's part and not an intentional screw you fans just to make the system a multi entertainment system.


But as PS3 players can enjoy their weaker system regardless I guess this gen Xbox fans gets to enjoy it now.

linkdrive
linkdrive

Sigh. Enough with the damage control. The Xbox One cannot do 1080p/60fps nearly as easy simply because it's a slower console. Microsoft screwed up, and that much is a fact. They would have been much better off with a stronger GPU than tacking on proprietary hardware that no one cares to develop for on an x86 platform.

devilzzz2014
devilzzz2014

Next gen console lololol Xbox One ... sheesh

How do you not have everything run in 1080p if a player so choose to do it?  Seriously we are already looking at 1440p now coming to household and people can actually get 4k tvs/monitors so yeah ridiculous that the next gen console from MS did not have everything be able to be done in 1080p.

megakick
megakick

Sony is becoming smaller and smaller at this rate there might not be a PLAYSTATION much longer. Samsung is going to release the next PLAYSTATION.

streamline
streamline

I think I am starting to understand why the One wasn't called Xbox 720.

StonerDemon
StonerDemon

I'm happy with my PS3 and my collection of games. I'll leave the PS4 vs X1 discussions for later :D

gamebuyer22
gamebuyer22

The fact they had to do a workaround for a crossgen title is a little bit worrisome for X1 owners. Imagine if Sniper Elite 3 actually had good graphics. No 1080p on X1. I dont mind low budget games like Sniper Elite by the way, just making a point.

XBones
XBones

Couldn't have said it better...

"The Xbox One is a bit more multimedia, a bit more hub-centric so its a bit more complex. There’s stuff you can and can't do because it’s a sort of multimedia hub. PS4 doesn’t have that. PS4 is just a games machine."

yixingtpot
yixingtpot

don't repeat last gen with Xbroke dumbing down the entire HD industry again by allowing 3rd party dev's to default down to horrible Xbroke level of gaming, support PS4 only. Let's put Monsantobox out of business once and for all. RE6 came out 8+ years? into PS3 generation and it only took up 11GB of a 25GB Blu-ray disc, that is unacceptable and it only happened because of Microbribe MonsantoBox. RE6 could have and should have been at least 3 times the game it was, in 3D, Move controls etc, and in reality it could have been even more epic if they pushed past 1 Blu-ray disc it could have been 2 25GB discs resulting in a massive epic of old RE standards. We didn't get that, we got dumbed down DVD crap. 


Sure, now Xbroke is using Sony's Blu-ray drive but it's still a weaker machine just like Xbroke was compared to PS3, PS4 is even more powerful and we DESERVE better games, not just better but the best games our money can buy and if people keep supporting Microbribe MonsantoBox we'll only get dumbed down crap games. 


I applaud the developers that concede that games will look better if made for PS4 'console' not PC comparisons but consoles. PS4 is the premier console to develop for so we should demand that they default to the PS4 and dumb down to the Xbroke not the other way around. 

zintarr
zintarr

Even investors want the Xbox One to die



aronaouran
aronaouran

@jark888 1) The Mass Effect trilogy pack is the same price for both consoles. 2) I played the entire campaign and I only had to change the disk once or twice. Not really breaking the immersion as the PS3 versions have the same long loading screens 3) Xbox also has exclusive content for certain games.

dmdavenport
dmdavenport

@blackace Because Gamespot had decided, editorially, that the PS4 is better and they don't want to contradict themselves. In spite of the facts.

RevLux
RevLux

@guardianofhonor  As much as I love my XB1 it generally does offer lower resolution and/or frame rate compared to the PS4. Here is a list compiled by IGN showing multi-platform games and their resolution and frame rate on each respective console:


http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates


I counted 13 games that are 1080p on the PS4 but not on the XB1. That's not including the games that are not 1080p on the PS4 but still have a higher frame rate and/or fps.


Having said that, the XB1 is an incredibly awesome gaming machine with a number of exclusives either out now or set to release soon. Both the XB1 and PS4 are more than worth the investment for avid console gamers imho. We went through much the same thing last gen when multi-plat. games generally looked and/or performed better on the 360. While that was largely due to how difficult it was to create games for the PS3 instead of it being a weaker system, the result was still much the same.

pilot_riaz
pilot_riaz

@OtherFabbros  Well said dude.  MS didn't listen to the devs, Sony did and built the better machine.  Sony cares about it's gamers hence they gave that free massive TV when PS3 launched to a few lucky gamers.

Raxyman
Raxyman

@OtherFabbrosXbone isn't a console per se, it's more of an "entertainment station" or whatchamacallit. If you're really into gaming, there isn't much reason for one, if you want something to play videos, songs and ocasionally play something, then yeah, xbone.
Just look at the ad from it https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/999926_580039102088020_1840644647_n.jpg it's in portuguese, but it translates to "talk to your friends while watching live TV using skype on Xbox One".

Not ONCE mentioned games...

LuzerGS
LuzerGS

@funkyzoom  "Never will"... until the day you do...


You all eventually do...


TRUST ME...


I AM REASON....

meck01
meck01

@devilzzz2014  Either does Sony - if you want true 1080p (or better) game on a p.c

DAOWAce
DAOWAce

@devilzzz2014 "already looking at 4K* now coming to household"

FTFY 

PC enthusiasts have been using 1440/1600p for about half a decade now, if not longer.

cwells126
cwells126

@megakick  Bad Idea, you don't want Samsung designing games. You'd get only MMORPG's.

Kinguard73
Kinguard73

@XBones Yeah I don't want to waste ram on a built in remote shouting at it on my console sorry. =) Oh and I know quite a few Xbox users that unhooked that clunky Kinect doorstop unless they have to do updates? (for whatever reason a friend had to hook it back up for that so I think the thing has a flashable rom.)

KiraDEATHNOTE
KiraDEATHNOTE

@XBones  

Doesn't have what? First off, you're right that the PS4 doesn't have the same os set-up as the xbox one when it comes to tv media and ect...  However, it does multitask with running apps or games. It has about almost every app that xbox one has like Netflix. The PS4 can do a lot of the things that the xbox one does but not everything and not in the same set-up (not to forget that the ps4 can record and share game-play moments with friends). Sony is just selling it more like a gaming machine than anything else.


Kinguard73
Kinguard73

@yixingtpot Ok now this is a PS4 fan calling YOU a total fanboi. PS3 wasn't that good a system I heard that from other PS3 users just had some damn good titles.

RageSet
RageSet

@yixingtpotFirst of all, the reason why developers developed on the 360 first was its ease of use compare to the PS3. That is a known fact. With that said, exclusive titles on the PS3 did look better than exclusive titles on the Xbox 360. Unfortunately, those titles came later in the PS3's life cycle. Have developers gotten a hang of developing for the PS3 earlier in its life cycle, things might have been different.


Second, the Xbox One isn't using Sony's Blu-ray drive. Sony is a member of the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA). Other members of the BDA are Samsung, Sharp, Intel and others. Sony was a pioneer in using blu-ray technology in their Playstation 3, but all 18 companies get a piece of the licensing fees when someone outside licensed the technology...not just Sony.


Lastly, it looks like developers ARE going to develop for the PS brand first this time around. It has been stated by numerous developers. That is why you often see more PS4 titles at 1080p/60fps. The more you know...

jark888
jark888

@aronaouran @jark888 1) individual released of ME2 on PS3 is complete with most, if not all of its DLCs. You will save way more money compared to Xbox360 counterpart.

2) Try to visit all of the planets to find more secret missions and see how many time you'll have to switch the discs back and forth.

3) I can hardly recall anything on that basis. Any AAA titles you can mention?

pilot_riaz
pilot_riaz

@dmdavenport @blackace  Microsoft didn't ask developers what they want, they didn't want only games machine.  Sony asked the developers and listened and built the game machine developers wanted.

SnakeEyesX80
SnakeEyesX80

@DAOWAce @devilzzz2014I've been playing games on my PC at 1920x1080 with well over 60fps for awhile now and I'm only running a 2GB DDR5 card (Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition) from 2011. I paid $249 for it.

Sideways8_4ever
Sideways8_4ever

@KiraDEATHNOTE  "sony is just selling it more like a gaming machine than anything else"........da fuq are you talking about?? the ps4 IS a gaming machine, unlike the xbrickone. if i wanted to watch tv on my tv, id watch it through my fucking CABLE BOX. the fact that the xbone is even in the same category as a gaming console is a total joke. 

ritsukoblue
ritsukoblue

@pilot_riaz and thats why Gamespot didn't put that in the article? Should Gamespot change its name to Sonyspot?