Where Rainbow 6: Patriots Can Go Right and Where It Can Go Wrong

Ubisoft's latest tactical shooter looks like a promising one, but a few parts of the game are worth keeping an eye on.

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With Rainbow 6: Patriots, Ubisoft Montreal wants to draw upon the political resentment bubbling within the dark, disenfranchised corners of the American public. This is a game where the biggest terrorist threat facing America comes from its own citizens--those bitter and well-armed enough to violently thrust their ideals onto anyone they deem necessary. That messy, uncertain political climate is something Ubisoft wants to make use of in not only the story, but even the shooter gameplay itself. By giving players what Ubisoft calls "constant ethical dilemmas," the game often asks players to trade a little part of their humanity for some greater goal whether they're playing as the counterterrorist Rainbow team, the terrorists themselves, or everyday citizens caught in the crossfire. It's an intriguing setup that looks very promising based on what we've seen, but a game like this leaves itself open to intense scrutiny by its very nature. Here are a few elements of the game that especially caught our eye:

Where It Could Go Right: Humanizing the Enemy

How many modern-day shooters have you played where the enemy represents little more than some vaguely Russian or Middle Eastern opposing force that exists merely as targets in a turkey shoot? With Patriots, Ubisoft wants to humanize the enemies, show you their motivations, and even give you the chance to play as them in situations where they feel doubt over their actions. If done right, seeing the human side to the enemies you're facing could be quite the breath of fresh air in the genre.

Just an ordinary day in the life of Rainbow Team.

Where It Could Go Wrong: When Good Guys Go Bad

The leader of Rainbow team is a fellow named James Wolfe who, according to Ubisoft, is a realist willing to take "ethical shortcuts" whenever necessary. In one situation, he orders you to throw an innocent civilian strapped with a bomb off of a bridge because there's no time to diffuse it. While we're hoping his personality develops into a morally complex antihero, it's too early to rule out the possibility that he may just be an unlikeable jerk. We're hoping it's not the latter because there's no shortage of first-person shooters where players just can't relate to some unpleasant tough guy. In fact, that's pretty much most first-person shooters.

Where It Could Go Right: Morally Ambiguous Gameplay

Prior to tossing that bomb-strapped innocent off into the river, there's a scene in which you're playing as a sniper perched high above a bridge and trying to protect the guy from being ushered into Times Square by a group of terrorists. Suddenly, things turn hairy when police, unaware that he's an innocent, begin opening fire on the civilian. You're presented with a difficult task: having to turn your fire onto friendlies to save a greater number of lives. (There are a lot of people still trapped on that bridge.) Whether you kill those police or simply incapacitate them is up to you and your skill with a sniper rifle, but no matter what, it's an odd feeling to not have an option other than the one where you open fire on those boys in blue. This is one of those areas where Patriots could really stand out from the crowd and throw moments of moral ambiguity into the shooter action. As long as it's done intelligently and Ubisoft makes sure to earn it, this part of the game could be a really interesting selling point.

Where It Could Go Wrong: Technology That Takes You Out of the Moment

One of the tools Rainbow team makes use of is something Ubisoft describes as a compact, technologically advanced version of an airport X-ray scanner that allows players to look through walls, buildings, and, in some cases, determine which citizens have guns on them. While this sort of tool certainly works for Batman (yes, it's basically detective vision), we can't help but feel that such fancy, theoretical technology feels a little misplaced in an otherwise realistic and human story of clashing ideals and the struggle to maintain one's humanity in grim situations. Sure, it wouldn't be a Tom Clancy-style game without some near-future military technology at your disposal, and it could wind up being an extremely useful game mechanic. We just hope it doesn't become Robocop vision.

This is not a New York you want to visit on vacation any time soon.

Where It Could Go Right: Doors

If you've played Battlefield 3, Homefront, or countless other shooters, you know how infuriating it can be when the game forces you into being the last of your squad to walk through a door even when you were the first one to get there. In Patriots, not only do you have the power to breach the doorway when you want, but you can also quite literally kick a door off of its hinges and take down an enemy with it. Now that's what we call counterterrorism.

Discussion

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Bryjoered07
Bryjoered07

AMD does the same thing with games companies. There is pros and cons to both manufactures. Nvidia normally has smaller, more power efficient cards and better drivers. Nvidia is best paired with intel. AMD gives you more power per dollar, but their cards run hot and are loud. AMD also offers more VRAM typically.


There isn't really a wrong way to go, I have an Nvidia card right now and would not hesitate one second buying an AMD card. The problem is pretty much none of them fit in my case and Nvidia EVGA does. I also am fond of Nvidia's Geforce Experience program, but I understand that AMD has something kind've similar.

Dredcrumb9
Dredcrumb9

" those bitter and well-armed enough to violently thrust their ideals onto anyone they deem necessary." Shaun, did you know the government does just that? have you turned on CNN lately? guess your too busy playing video games.

Newporta
Newporta

Here's is the deal for what they MUST do in order to make it a huge success and not another COD clone.  Let players host lobbies exactly like they could in R6V2, not like the voting done in COD and Halo games.  Increase the maximum number of players from 14 to 16 or 20 or whatever but make the rooms slightly larger.  somehow allow restrictions to be made on armor as well as weapons so that we can restrict full anaconda armor, for instance, if the host chooses.  Keep the way  you unlock weapons and gear the same as in Vegas2 with A.C.E.S.  Increase the number of gun customizations into the game, similar to COD, which i hate to make that comparison since COD games are nothing like the rainbow games but do have much more customization for equipment as well as great perks like sleight of hand and warlord.  Make the gun stats actually mean something this time, there is no way an AK-47 and AKS-74U have identical stats.  Make sure NOT to add a jump button.  I don't want to change the cover system at all since it worked beautifully, however there was a few flaws to the cover mechanic.  Like your characters body facing the wrong way when you pop out of cover, for instance many times i would pop out of cover facing the left but before i decided to come out, my body would be facing right, not a big deal but a little irritating to look at and occasionally hazardous.  The big flaw that the cover system had, not flaw but shortcoming, would have to be the fact that when you have your character pop out of cover over the top of a box, you are completely stationary and unable to strafe left or right.  You must back down and move to either the left or right position and then pop back out.  Not really a huge disappointment, but after play GRAW and Gears of War, vegas seems much less fluid in that respect, almost like resident evil games in the sense that you cant move while aiming.  Lastly but also most import is DO NOT take out previous game modes or leave them in their but butcher them.  I think we all remember a little game mode from R6V1 called "attack & defend"...on calypso casino right?  well they managed to keep that mode for R6V2 but somehow failed to have an unlimited respawn option, like the first vegas, and instead limited the maximum respawns to 3!!  That made me have vegas 2 for the longest time after i got it, simply because i felt like ubisoft doesnt play their games or something.  yea try playing a 20min attack and defend game as the defensive side with only 3 spawns.  They really dropped the ball on that one.  Finally, give us more map packs i mean they released one set of map packs for the second vegas game which have gotten very old by this point.  I must praise them though for the fact that they were all free.  Another request would be to keep all the R6V1 and R6V2 maps in the new patriots game as well as a few additional ones.  Trust me when i say this, since i am a hardcore rainbow six player and have spoken to the entire community and this really is the concensus.

escritora84
escritora84

As long as they allow co-op play, I'm good. This looks so amazing!

JerkFace84
JerkFace84

I'm really hoping they keep the splitscreen option like they did with R6 Vegas 1&2

ThexSilentxOne
ThexSilentxOne

This seems like an FPS going in the right direction! I have always valued the Rainbow Six games more than other FPS games, except Halo and Half-Life of course!

Desro29
Desro29

i love the rainbow series im looking forward to this game !

remysola
remysola

Ohhh great!!! in 2011 they announced for PC... then three months before release they will say that's cancelled and a port was never announced. Such as happened with Ghost Recon: Future Soldier

CountZero
CountZero

One thing you forgot to mention. Where it could go Right: Level (or levels) where you play as an terrorist (and not a mole). Theoretically, having a level where you play from the perspective of the generic goons you gun down in these kind of games could be interesting if - to play in with the dark-and-grey morality Ubisoft is promising, they use the opportunity to go into why the terrorists are doing what they're doing. Where It Could Go Wrong: Like the last game, except shooting 100% more brown people. Where the last Call of Juarez eventually stopped bothering to depict the gritty realities of the modern war on drugs in favor of neo-con "They're Taking Our Women" panic (among other things - check out Extra Credits discussion of the game for a more in-depth discussion), this could basically end up being like the other games, but instead of having generic "terrorists", having Rainbow face Muslim Islamic Extremists. Did we mention they're Muslim? Oh, and we're shooting evil Muslims. Who are evil. Because they're Islamic (extremists). That would be a bad thing, and bring the Rainbow 6 series into the realm of self-parody.

manhunted
manhunted

There should be a level on which guns are replaced by kisses blown at the enemy and subsequent blushing instead of bullet impacts, followed by an incapacitating swoon. There should alse be a level on which the main objective is to rappel down bruce forseiths forehead. Perhaps even a multiplayer mode in which you have to seduce your opponent with love ballads, flowers and gentle love making. Instead of guns you are required to use one of two weapons, cupid's bow or a strap on...... Wait wait,,,, perhaps you could customise your loadout each level, allowing you to adorn your special forces troup in a variety of seductive atire, perhaps mini skirts and crop tops for the more slutty members or latex, crotcless cat suits for the big hard bloke, also you should be allowed to choose your shade of lipstick and mascara. Rumours suggest that one mission requires you to infiltrate a maximum security enemy weapons dump, during which you use a variety of wooden ducks on your head on the pond infiltration and dressing as a pantomime horse to evade security cameras, as well as rubbing a bi-curious guards groin to gain access to the main plant..... Cant wait......... I have heard that during the final sequence you get the option of sitting down with your squad for a romantic meal for three or retiring to the operations room for a frantic menage a trois involving the al-quida terrorist leader.. I for 1 will be buying this game.....

augiedoggied
augiedoggied

It all boils down to this: If it's good, I will play it.

y3ivan
y3ivan

i believe the UBI team that are doing R6:P are UBI montreal.. and they hate US gov.

darthkillerduck
darthkillerduck

@SlayerX13 Yes, of course it's propoganda for the US goverment when it's being developed by Ubisoft, who are a company mostly based in France. Makes perfect sense

Tahir_Ahmad
Tahir_Ahmad

Where It Could Go Wrong: Developed by Ubisoft Never trust them for PC games. I stick with Battlefield 3.

jorgeabk
jorgeabk

Honestly, the game can have whatever story line they want.......at the end of the day are the mechanics any good ??? graphics ??? gameplay ??? does it compete with top FPS games ??? if they fail on that, then the game is a bust and all the political views they seek to put on this game, no one will care....btw putting political ideas can also create a separation on the fan base and make many people angry about the campaign story.....me personally i don't care, i just care about the game being good but for others they might think otherwise....

PaddyP3
PaddyP3

I've a lot of love for the games in this series... Intelligent, tactical FPS. I just hope they stick largely to their roots and don't go all Hollywood on us.

sonoblnik
sonoblnik

Put the overtime in guys and get rainbow back to us sooner plz ) In your face gameplay, fast slick precise controls with competitive multiplayer this is Rainbow )

Unfallen_Satan
Unfallen_Satan

@da_post_office Indeed my preference is idealized, as is only possible in fiction. However, why should fiction merely mirror the shortcomings of the real world that we can see everyday? You may prefer that, I don't fault you for it. However, I think it's illogical that if they catered to my taste, it would be pandering, but if they catered to yours, it would be somehow superior. On another note, I assume from your knowledge of how this type of story unfolds in real life that you must be a member of a world-class CT unit or a world-famous terrorist organization. If you are not, then I think to be fair, you don't know what you are talking about either. Who is to say those folks are not pure, dedicated professionals that I idealize?

crim86
crim86

Hey Ubisoft, Please bring back the real Rainbow Six.

SlayerX13
SlayerX13

This game has been brought to you by Homeland Security who want's you to remember... Don't trust anyone. Your neighbor is a terrorist, LIVE IN FEAR SHEEP. The funny thing is a bill was just introduced which basically allows the government to round up suspected "terrorist" while claiming it is not for US citizens. Until you get to the end of the bill which basically negates the whole not for US citizens thing. The story line this game is introducing just seems a bit to much like government propaganda to me.

xxxxTRISTAMxxxx
xxxxTRISTAMxxxx

Finally a game that will be different than your standard COD crap. I love R6V and this will be amazing game. Can't wait!!!

lightingbird
lightingbird

I'm so pumped. This is my favorite most realistic shooter. I'll be getting this day one.

da_post_office
da_post_office

@Unfallen_Satan That was a nice idealized view of the world, but one that is highly naive and unrealistic. Real life is much more complex than video games and I would like to see a game try something different instead of pandering to the misconceptions of folks like you.

mdk236
mdk236

Games should try to stay out of politics, its the last bastion of media that is not inundated with that nonsense, I play them to get away from that crap.

Unfallen_Satan
Unfallen_Satan

Oh, I don't want to see a conflicted main hero or a remorseful main villain. In rare instances of story telling, they can be portrayed well, but the vast majority of examples I've seen in media are just pathetic. Rainbows are counter-terrorist professionals. They always choose the greater good. Terrorists aim to inflict maximum terror through whatever means necessary. If either side has an issue with what they do, they should go home and get a normal job and leave the show to true professionals. This isn't the revolutionary war where farmers and scholars are forced to pick up guns to defend their life and liberty.

Unfallen_Satan
Unfallen_Satan

I learned a few more details about the game that I didn't know before, like the x-ray vision gadget and door-breaching mechanic. Those could be changed in the actual game, but they hint at the direction of the game. And it's always fun to hear Shaun's thoughts on the game. If I agreed with everything, there'd be no point in reading. I especially look forward to the damage mapping on enemies. I hope Ubisoft takes it far and wide. I am usually reluctant to kill another in-game person if I have the choice, especially if they are American citizens like in Patriots. God commands "Thou shalt not kill." There is nothing about incapacitating wounds. I hope Ubisoft doesn't go crazy with the ethical dilemma in gameplay. The scene where you throw a coerced suicide bomber off a bridge is great the first time. More choices like that will lose their appeal fast. Deaths in games do not haunt the player psychologically. More ethical choices will likely lead to a habit of making "the greater good" choice, especially if moral hesitation leads to game over. If they really wanted to make an ethical choice stick, they should explore each one more. While a hundred are grateful to you for saving their lives, the hatred in the eyes of one wife whose husband you killed to save that hundred burns deeper, even if you just rescued her from the terrorists.

promeythozine
promeythozine

From: TombRaiderChic "No way will I buy a game that depicts our military firing on American citizens" Get real lady and stay away from anything MILITARY go play DDR. A&D is not a unlimited respawn mode...Its supposed to be a one death mode. If you dont get it right the first time, you dont get another try. Any complainers should try to be better at laying down a opponent before they get laid down..simple as that. They shud definitely make this game as difficult as possible...HARD games make u a better player. It is way more gratifing when u accomplish something you HAVE to work for. Come on kids not everything is easy in life and not all games have to be Call of Dooooty :) The game is prostituted out every year, taking simple minds for 60 bucks for the same game...SAAAD

sochio
sochio

i hope the fix the control . it was the only thing that i dint like from vegas

wavelength121
wavelength121

@shaunmc I understand the need to be productive on a regularly updated gaming site, but maybe you should leave the reviewing for the finished product. Your speculation is very opinionated.

wavelength121
wavelength121

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Lastbullet777
Lastbullet777

this game has seriously great ideas...hope they make it right

thenephariouson
thenephariouson

Although i enjoy the SP campaigns, the real meat for me is the MP, i mean who does'nt like a good ol' Attack and Defend in the Calypso Casino : )

LordSho
LordSho

I like the new direction of RB6 in dealing with homegrown terrorists... this is a threat that the US will really end up dealing with. It started in the Tea Party, has bled over into the OWS crowd, and will culminate in a far more extreme group of pissed off people who are tired of seeing the many have to bend to the will of the few.

LordSho
LordSho

Then stay in your socialist hell-hole... we don't want you here anyway. And say what you want about us, but you'd never pick a fight with us... and this we all know!

ucrook
ucrook

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TombRaiderChic
TombRaiderChic

No way will I buy a game that depicts our military firing on American citizens. I'll be encouraging friends and family to boycott this one. I love Tom Clancy's books and his games up to this point. I think this one has gone way too far left of center for me.

GamerLegend10
GamerLegend10

Its awesome to know that another R6 is on the way, great series and i have been waiting a long time for a new one.

BlackWaltz_No_3
BlackWaltz_No_3

I remember playing the first Rainbow Six. It was definitely a unique fps even at this time. Timing your groups to act accordingly, such as positioning your sniper at the right time at the right place then moving out with your assault team, planning out every mission by yourself. That is the definition of a 'Tactical game.' I guess what they mean with tactical now is run and gun, with a spice of cover mechanics and regenerating health.

johnny_pay
johnny_pay

hopefully they will bring back the door hinge shooting mechanism thing from lockdown because that was cool

garylaing567
garylaing567

this should be great loved rainbow six vegas 2

Newporta
Newporta

 @escritora84 that is the dumbest thing i have ever hear...as long as they allow multiplayer "play" then EVERYBODY will be good...who the hell plays rainbow six for the campaign over multiplayer? scrap the story mode all together and follow my instructions above for multiplayer and you will have the best shooter ever made...

Newporta
Newporta

 @ThexSilentxOne oooh you dont know about shooters as much as you seem to think since you havent mentioned Counter Strike!!

Newporta
Newporta

 @augiedoggied oh really those are your words of wisdom? wow and i thought people played games because they sucked...do everyone a favor and don't ever post another comment again.

escritora84
escritora84

Preferring co-op campaigns over multiplayer is not "dumb", it's just a personal preference.  Multiplayer is cool, but it's just not my thing - I have more fun tackling mission objectives with friends.

 

Newporta
Newporta

 @escritora84 i just mean "dumb" in the sense that co-op campaigns, even with randomly generated levels, can only have so many variations of the same scripted scenario.  However in multiplayer the experience is based on the players present in the game which allows for a virtually unlimited number of permutations...you will never play the same match twice in multiplayer, never