What We'd Like to See at E3 From Nintendo

Everything old is new again.

At the Wii U's reveal two E3s ago, Nintendo introduced a system that would have a large amount of third-party support (for a Nintendo console). Though things didn't quite pan out the way the company planned, that's just made every release for Nintendo's systems that much more important.

The Wii U may not have an overabundance of games, but the ones that do come out tend to be unique, fun experiences. And the 3DS is still the reigning champion of handheld gaming. The highly anticipated Mario Kart 8 launched last week, Super Smash Bros. is on the near horizon, and Nintendo has already announced that its NFC figurine program will make an appearance at this year's E3. But what surprises does the company have in store? GameSpot's editors discuss what they most want to see on the Wii U and 3DS at this year's gaming convention.

Something Old, Something New - Carolyn Petit

Oh, Nintendo. I hope you know what you're doing. I want all three console makers to have strong showings at E3 because I love getting to play great games on every platform, but it's Nintendo whose games can still tap in to my childlike love for gaming. With the Wii U's sales having been so disappointing, and with the company opting for a Nintendo Direct in lieu of a proper press conference, I worry that a strong E3 for Nintendo is too much to hope for. But hope I do.

Rumors abound that Nintendo is going to reveal some sort of new technology that may not even be purely gaming-focused, but I want Nintendo to show us why those of us who bought a Wii U should still be excited, and maybe why those who haven't yet bought a Wii U will want to buy one in the future. For me, that means a few different things.

First and foremost, it means that Nintendo needs to trot out really exciting new entries in its legendary franchises. And when I say exciting, I mean daring games, games that take chances rather than play it safe. Give us a new Legend of Zelda game that breaks out of the mold that every console Zelda of the past few generations has adhered to, perhaps looking to the challenge and mystery of the original NES game, and to the Dark Souls games, for inspiration.

Give us a new Mario game that is as bold and brilliant a reinvention of the platforming genre as Super Mario Galaxy was. And Metroid. Give us Metroid! Please! A Metroid that's scary and that makes you feel as alone and uncertain as the alien landscapes of the original game did so long ago, a game that looked and sounded and played like nothing else at the time.

But do more than this. Show us that your days of creating amazing new franchises aren't behind you, that it's not just going to be Zelda and Mario and Metroid forever. Reveal a new franchise that you're pouring as much time and money and creativity into as you've ever poured into a Mario or Zelda game. Show us that you can still be the company that you used to be, when you didn't just rely on amazing established properties but constantly innovated and created amazing new properties, too.

That's all I want, Nintendo. I don't think it's too much to ask.

The Future Retro - Thomas Mc Shea

I have placed my unquestioned faith into the hands of Retro Studios. Only one of their five games thus far--Metroid Prime: Corruption--was less than a masterpiece, so the prospect of seeing what their ingenious minds concoct next has caused me to babble with senseless delirium. E3 would be a major success in my eyes if we got even a whisper of what they have in store for us, no matter what project they deem worthy of their talents. I don't care if it's another Donkey Kong Country, a return to the Metroid adventures that started their fame, or a new enterprise that no one could have expected. I want to see Retro's effort flaunted.

But if I'm being greedy (which I am), then my wishes don't stop with just one game. As is a requisite when talking about Nintendo, I do want an older franchise to be brought to the present. And my dream rebirth would be F-Zero. Oh, I know how dangerous investing money in a game that has a limited market would be, but business issues don't matter at all to me. We haven't seen this futuristic racer since the awe-inspiring F-Zero GX more than a decade ago—actually 11 years!--and the time is ripe for next-generation, zero gravity racing. Please, Nintendo, make it so.

Fuzzy Pickles! - Justin Haywald

We might have to wait for the next Nintendo console for my wish to come true, but I'm waiting for Nintendo to finally announce Virtual Console integration between 3DS and Wii U. The fact that you have to buy an NES game like Super Mario Bros. 3 separately for each system (and that there's no cross-save) feels ridiculous, especially looking at the close integration between the PS4, PS3, and Vita.

And of course I want to finally see the next version of Zelda, Mario, Metroid, and Nintendo's other storied franchises. But there are two revivals I'd like more than any other: Majora's Mask on 3DS and the official release of Earthbound sequel Mother 3. The Skull Kid mask in A Link Between Worlds is only the latest tease from Nintendo that a potential remake of the game (a la Ocarina of Time) is in development. One of the leads on the Mother 3 fan translation even offered his version up for free if it meant the game could come to the West. Earthbound came out on Virtual Console last year, so maybe anything's possible?

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budulu
budulu

HYRULE WARRIORS!

MacroManJr
MacroManJr

We likely won't see a new Metroid game.  The reason why is that while Metroid's a big fan favorite, in terms of sales, it's never been the biggest system seller, even with Metroid Prime.  Though, I do really hope they make one, just for those hardcore Nintendo fans who enjoy the heck out of Metroid, like I do.

But if I hope they at least bring some NEW stuff to the table.  New ideas, new styles and new IPs.  Let's see Nintendo take a whack at designing an MMORPG, which shows the full glory of the GamePad controller, since this controller is THE best design for bringing an MMORPG to console and perhaps THE sole justification for even bringing such to a console.

Let's see a new Zelda game that mixes things up a bit: How about a co-op game, where you as Link gets to team up with Sheik, for some dynamic-duo, dungeon-clearing, smoke-bomb-disappearin', glowing-sword-spinnin' action?  You could rely on each other's unique skill sets, action styles, and weapon sets for some truly unique action and puzzle-solving.  Search your hearts, Nintendo.  You know this is awesome.

I'd like a new F-Zero game myself, but instead of just a new F-Zero game with online racing (which, in itself, is long overdue and would be freakin' awesome), how about blowing the dust off of F-Zero by introducing the F-Zero League?  A racing game where players can design their own F-Zero-styled racers, racing machines, and dammit, perhaps even the courses, and enjoying racing both online and locally in a number of ways: going solo, with or against strangers, or in F-Zero teams with your friends.

With an F-Zero League, you'd race for status, unlocking win-exclusive design parts, better materials for courses, etc.  We could swap items and even optionally gamble parts in-game (winner takes all, double-or-nothing, etc.).  We could even have official F-Zero tournaments.  This game alone would become a major hit with Major League Gaming, whose support Nintendo could use.

And while we're on that note of competitive gaming, I hope Nintendo would ensure that Super Smash Bros. for Wii U is both local- and online-tourney-worthy.  I hope they tighten the game well enough to where we can have some serious online tourneys, even if just with friends.  Do nothing in watered-down or limited fashion. Go all out..  Show your best hand.  Do this, and watch Sony struggle to emulate your success.

And finally, I hope Nintendo breaks the mold a bit by hiring some fresh faces at Nintendo, and while still keeping strongly with Nintendo traditions, I hope they can introduce some newness to this nearly-40-years-strong video game industry legend (and 125 years as a game company altogether).  New IPs.  New styles of existing IPs.  Experimenting with new directions.  We can always do classic sometime later, but right now, Nintendo needs radical, wild, potent, daring, and truly innovative ideas.

Fin.

Nuvendil
Nuvendil

@MacroManJr  And also let's see some real good marketing, some pizazz.  What happened to the Nintendo that made the N64 ad campaign?  There is no excuse for Metroid, especially the Prime series, not being a force in gaming.  If they marketed their games and their console with the fervor and showmanship that we all know they have the money for, it would help them in so many ways.

byzantine_chant
byzantine_chant

Here's my prediction for Zelda U.


It's going to be a standard 3rd person camera (behind Link) on the TV and top-down camera on the tablet controller (like Link Between Worlds). Successful navigation, of dungeons especially, will depend on using these two views.


There it is. If I'm wrong, my lawyer will be collecting all negative comments. LOL

coop36
coop36

@byzantine_chant Your idea isnt totally crazy.. if I recall correctly ocarina of Time was originally tested as being a first person game.

rervin2
rervin2

There's a typo... It's Majora's Mask not Skull Kid Mask...

coop36
coop36

I would love to see an open-world Mario rpg game that explores the mushroom kingdom. Another F-Zero and Starfox would be cool, but even better if they revive something none of us saw coming. Hyrule Warriors looks like an interesting spinoff too. I feel incredibly spoiled for getting 3 Zelda games on one home console :O

Nuvendil
Nuvendil

@coop36  Some out-of-nowhere revivals would be cool.  My take?  Team up with some 3rd parties to bring back some classic franchises that would fit the Wii U like a glove.  My top two:  Battle Clash and Metal Warriors.  Why?  Mechs.  The Wii U is perfect for Mech games.  Mech games have complex control schemes, which makes developing for a 14 button controller hard.  But the Wii U's touchscreen could easily be used for 20 or so additional buttons.  Plus it would be something new and different.  And online one-on-one mech battles?  Or mech battle tournaments?  Maybe with mech customization?  Yes please!

Pikminmaniac
Pikminmaniac

I'm hoping for Punch-Out!! and Metroid as well as something surprising and new.

coop36
coop36

@Pikminmaniac The Wii Punch-Out was great. I guess they could use the Super Punch-Out characters for the sequel?

Nuvendil
Nuvendil

The dude with the glasses is just such a stick in the mud and is apparently only here to make "controversial" statements to stir up some ire.  "It has only sold almost 7mil units."  Well Got news for you, that's significantly more than Xbox One and the PS4 is still only less than 2mil units out there.  And you can't just discount a whole console and you definitely cannot discount Mario Kart's impact less than a week post release.  And the Wii U has exceeded Xbox One sales in May so the One isn't overtaking it any time soon. 


And games?  They can't release anything that could change their fortunes?  What about Monolith Soft's X?  What about Hyrule Warriors?  Shin Megami Tensai x Fire Emblem?  Bayonetta 2?  What about all the other games they have? 


If anyone is having a dry spell this year it's the other two next-gen consoles whose precious third party games and even exclusives are being delayed in droves.  Witcher 3?  Delayed.  Arkham Knight?  Delayed.  Order 1886?  Delayed.  The Division?  Delayed.  Dying Light?  Delayed.  Mad Max?  Delayed.  Quantum Break?  Delayed.  Halo 5?  Delayed.  And good odds of more of those wonderful delays will hit this E3. 


And stop fracking asking for new hardware.  It's a stupid idea, it would kill their credibility.  If you screw your customers over by not giving them returns on their investment in you hardware, you will go the way of Sega:  an old company limping along, glory days behind them, owned by an old slot machine (iirc) company.  Just stop it. 

coop36
coop36

@Nuvendil Agreed on all counts. Mario Kart 8 has shown the best is yet to come from WiiU.

MacroManJr
MacroManJr

@Nuvendil Sorry to burst your bubble, but PS4 has 7 million sales, in about seven months.  I too hope for better for Wii U, but let's not kid ourselves about its progress in sales.  To be matched in sales by a console that's only sold for seven months, compared to your nearly year-and-a-half lead in debut, isn't much to brag about here.

With that said, I do hope for better games that'll boost some more interest for Wii U.  They really need to not only bring some games that solidifies the Wii U GamePad's worth, but also return full-force with innovating in games in general again.  No offense to Big N, but I'm tired of watered-down Mario games and Zelda games that don't dare to be as richly unique as A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Twilight Princess were.

Nuvendil
Nuvendil

@MacroManJr @Nuvendil  I wasn't referring to momentum but totals.  One of the Gamespot guys was knocking it because of its total install base being only 6mil.  I was just pointing out that none of the current gen consoles have large totals.  And PS4 has great momentum but Xbox One hasn't really gotten that much umph to it. I am well aware of the Wii U's struggling momentum, but it's hardly a dead console with 0 hope.  That's just sensationalist buzz to get clicks. 

Piris
Piris

Zelda, mario and metroid. That's what I'm looking forward to.

MG_SORA
MG_SORA

No doubt I fell terrible about the Wii U failing, and I agree with people who say that it is all to blame on the name. No doubt that we, the ones who follow the gaming news, might know that the Wii U is not a game-pad on a Wii, but try telling parents that the new console is actually a new one. At first, even I had a hard time believing that the Wii U was a new piece of hardware.


Anyway, I just don't think they should make a new console just yet. Remember SEGA? they had a pretty bad time with the 32X, a total failure that the public thought of as just a gimmick. Then, they betrayed the loyal customers with the Saturn by abandoning it too soon, just to release a new, better console, no doubt. But guess what? the Dreamcast also failed terribly, there was just no way the public could tell if they were going to abandon it way too soon, like they did with the Saturn.


I'm just saying it would be foolish for Nintendo not to leave their image as a brand in good standing before releasing something new.

byzantine_chant
byzantine_chant

I am looking forward to a ton of games at E3, but ZELDA is the biggest one for me. And Metroid if we get lucky...


ZELDA-U. Only two days left to go! NICE.

leeko_link
leeko_link

Just want them to announce more info on Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem, Monolith's X, and the new Fatal Frame V. Also a new F-Zero and Star Fox for Wii U would be great too.

prats93
prats93

Mother 3 for 3DS, thanks.

Lostat
Lostat

I don't get why Nintendo continue to announce their news as a Nintendo-Direct rather than as an E3 conference, because the only people who will really watch Nintendo-Direct are those who already own 3DS & WiiU consoles.  That means they're just preaching to the converted.

Nintendo needs to understand that they have to appeal to gamers who do not currently own their consoles, in order to attract more people to buying their machines.  Announcing everything as Nintendo-Direct just appears like a clique talking to themselves.  I know Nintendo will have E3 show-floor demos, but that doesn't get all the gaming press headlines & in turn get the attention to the general public via that media.

It just gives the signal that Nintendo still don't "get it".  I love their first-party games, but for goodness sake Nintendo!...you're running your company in a self-absorbed bubble these days!

byzantine_chant
byzantine_chant

@Lostat I don't have a Wii-U or 3DS and I'll be watching the Nintendo Direct. 


It's not a clique. Do you own a Wii-U or 3DS? No? But you KNOW about the Nintendo Direct. No clique at all. 


Since you "love their first-party games", I'm sure that you'll be watching their Nintendo Direct presentation along with the rest of us! :)


LOL

MacroManJr
MacroManJr

@byzantine_chant @Lostat Sorry, but everyone and their grandma knows was a PS4 is.  Why?  Simple.  Largely because even popular news sources like Good Morning, America and USA Today cover a bit of what goes on on-stage at an E3 event.  The only people who follow Nintendo Direct are typically those already in the know, and most generally among those in the know, Nintendo fans.

Nintendo would benefit from a main on-stage presentation, even if a streamlined version of one.  It gives better attention and also shows that the company isn't afraid to present their offering to the world.  It sends a weak message to folks that you didn't think your lineup was so great, so you went with a much lower-key digital route instead.

The difference to gaming fans who follow such news closely isn't going to be a big deal, but to other gamers not particularly following Nintendo news but still impressionable, and to general media attention, the difference is huge.

creepshow2
creepshow2

I will say it again I love my Wii U and the only thing I would like to see outside the game announcments is a range extender for the gamepad!!!

boringdork
boringdork

Wii U is starting to pick up, and people are finally starting to understand what the system actually is.
---IT'S NOT A $300 GAMEPAD for your Wii--- People recently are starting to understand the 3DS isn't just the DS/Lite/DSi 'update' to the DS.

Nintendo didn't do a good job educating the customer base... and it bit them. HARD.


As a gamer I plan to get a PS4 and eventually, an Xbox One... but right now... ANYONE who is really wanting an awesome experience... should stop and look at the Wii U

$329 - Console, Gamepad, Bonus Controller, MARIO KART 8, AND ANOTHER Game. When it comes down to it, you're paying less than $200 for the console.

There is nothing making me get a PS4 today... and every game is basically coming out for current and last gen - even Destiny... so Wii U.

byzantine_chant
byzantine_chant

@boringdork I think that Nintendo should have given the Wii-U a different name. It would have generated a lot more hype. It would have felt like something new. That was it's biggest problem. The name.


Instead they tried to ride their own coat-tails and it bit them in the backside.


I'll be getting a Wii-U after I see the Zelda and hopefully a Metroid, as well. Then, with Bayonetta 2, Wind Waker HD, Mario Kart 8, NSMB-U, Pikmin 3, Mario 3D Land (and a few others I'm sure) it will be more than worth the purchase. 

gameroutlawzz
gameroutlawzz

@byzantine_chant You HAVE to pick up Wonderful 101 also. Its such a underrated gem with some of the most brilliant and unique gameplay and hilarious characters/dialogues.

chieflion
chieflion

Honestly Nintendo is the best at what they do. Which is exactly the same thing each time with different upgrades and new exciting elements. If they brought this up a notch, and made new starfoxes, F zeros, metroids, earthbound, goddamn the list goes on and on; they could rejuvineate themselves with classic material. I know it sounds dumb but its the only way. Unless they create an entirely new game, that has new lovable characters and new iconic... well everything, then their only hope is to go for what they have always gone for. 

I mean watchdogs was supposed to be this new, exciting genre changing experience, and its just gta with hacking and really easy driving mechanics. Not everything needs to be pushed to be new and daring. Nintendo knows this. Nintendos existence PROVES this. Focus on your strengths and you will get a strong product. 

Nintendo has had a bad rap, but they are never ever gunna die. They did to much for this industry to let it die. They owe the gamers who grew up loving this system more then any other ( for me it was right up until the Wii U) a chance to change; not the formula, or the business model, Just the attitude. Positive thinking is what made this company awesome. I hope that experience is revived this E3. Hell any E3 before i die.

kingcrimson24
kingcrimson24

I think what they need right now is more third party games :/

rhymeswithfreak
rhymeswithfreak

Gee let's bring on some people to talk about Nintendo games that don't even own there systems.  Gamespot fail.

Master_Of_Fools
Master_Of_Fools

Nintendo will always have a home console and a handheld.

Master_Of_Fools
Master_Of_Fools

I wish I could bitch slap that guy talking about a new console already from Nintendo.

joel_c17
joel_c17

Bought a wiiU a week ago with MK 8 - this console is awesome.

blackace
blackace

We definitely need a new StarFox and Metroid games. That's a must. We also need a price cut on the Wii U to at least $250 with 2 games bundled and an increase in storage memory to no little then 120GB. If they can't at least pull these few things off at the E3, I'm never going to get a Wii U. I'm not going to spend $300 for a game console that only has 32GB of storage, when the competition has $500GB and is more powerful. Even last gen systems have 250 - 500GB in their system. No reason the Wii U shouldn't as well. Make it happen Nintendo.

boringdork
boringdork

@blackace Really the MK8 bundle at $329 is an incredible value. Console, Gamepad, Bonus Wiimote+, Mario Kart 8, and another game. You're paying less than $200 for the system with that bundle.

I do appreciate your viewpoints on the memory of the unit. There are a couple things that are important with this.
-Agreed that any system that even came out in 2005 should have had a 250GB+ Included.
-Proprietary HDD are trash. Thanks to the Xbox S, I had to buy a total of THREE HDD for my 360. That's Essentially $300 MS got from me...*BARF*
-Companies that want us to go digital SHOULD offer incentives to save them money
-Nintendo offers incentives for digital as for every $50 you spend, you get a $5 eShop giftcard: https://p.nintendo.net/deluxe/
-Wii U supports EXTERNAL USB HDD... thats like $40 for 320 GB... while not a great answer, it beats overpriced proprietary addons, and is a cheap option. Remember that the 32 GB is just flash memory, and not an actual Hard Drive.

-And finally, any PS4/X1 arguments about storage are really invalid with the 500GB HDD due to the massive amounts of memory REQUIRED for game installations or even, the OS. There is no reason in this 'digital' age... and the push to go completely digital for these companies to not included a 2TB HDD... when mass-ordering MILLIONS of HDD from a manufacturer it would probably only cost pennies more to upgrade the HDD size.

So while I do appreciate your viewpoint on the memory... the Wii U is a steal with the MK8 Bundle, and seriously... get a $40 HDD external if you plan to go digital. You're missing out on a lot of awesome games if you don't.

Tiwill44
Tiwill44

@blackace You make it sound like having storage and power is more important than having games...

killjoi
killjoi

Wife gave me a Wii U MK8 bundle for my birthday. I've been playing it since it came out, alternating between MK, Pikmin, ZombiU (which I love--I've yet to understand the hate for this game), and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. I love, love that I can play Mario Kart 8 on the game pad as I let the dog out or game while going to bed in the other room.

Sure, I can see how Wii U owners who've been there from the beginning are starved for content. However, in my experience so far I'm happy to finally own one and do not share the feeling that Nintendo has to do something to turn things around. To me, they've created something new and different with experiences not found on the other consoles. Maybe a year from now I'll feel differently, but I have a feeling I'll still be playing Monster Hunter and Mario Kart, and of course Smash Bros.

arrow2thekneeXD
arrow2thekneeXD

@Master_Of_Fools @arrow2thekneeXD There is absolutely no reason that shouldn't be free..That's the easiest feature they could put into a game and they Don't need to charge me for every character that I wan't to save a move set or skin for..Physical Micro-transactions is what that is..

Dobbr
Dobbr

Personally excited for Nintendo and the Wii U at E3 and hoping for a few of the following:

E3 Wishlist:

Zelda

Metroid

Star Fox

Mario RPG 

Also hoping for some more Nintendo online gaming:

Pokemon MMO

F Zero

Mario Party Online

NintenMOBA?

After completely neglecting the idea of buying a WiiU for 20 months, I sifted through all of the negative sales bashing found on many gaming sites and got one late last year.   After skipping Nintendo products for MS and Sony the past few generations, I can say that this is my favorite console since the SNES.


Everyone wants to discuss why the system is failing financially, but the system is absolutely delivering the goods in terms of what I care about... games.


Just enough 3rd party support where I can hit games like AC:4, Sonic All-Stars Adventure Racing, Deus Ex, etc and add in what is IMO the best line-up of system exclusives in a two years span since AAA games came into the picture...


Current must haves:

Mario Kart

Super Mario 3D World

Wind Waker

Pikmin

NSMBU

DKC: TF

W101

Ultimate Monster Hunter 3


Must have upcoming games:

X

Bayonetta 2

Super Smash Brothers U


Gravity_Slave
Gravity_Slave

I'd like to see Nintendo take a step back from recycled tired mascots (Mario, Link, Metroid) and take a step forward with an actual next gen console to compete with Sony and MS.

(I'd also like to see that brown nosing Nintendo fanboy chev2287 stop tr0lling Nintendo related comment sections. Tool)

Master_Of_Fools
Master_Of_Fools

@Gravity_Slave PS4 and Xbox One are NOT Next Gen. Wii U, PS4, Xbox One are all CURRENT GEN. Wii U wins 2014 which is sad cause it had such a rocky time so far. But all the main PS4 games have been delayed till next year and Xbox One has...that rumored Halo Master Chief Collection...that's it. I can agree with you on letting Mario rest, but Zelda and Metroid are rarely done...

boringdork
boringdork

@Gravity_Slave If you look on paper at specs you may think the Wii U is lacking in power. I know I sure did... but after hooking it up to a TV and having a couple rounds with the software thats on there...WHOA.

As for 'recycled tired mascots' - think about that for a moment. Nintendo has some great mascots.. but it's not every year we get the 'next installment' of a game - like the Madden/2K/CoD/BF games.

Nintendo is innovative. That's how we initially got some great games and ideas like Smash Bros and Mario Kart, Toon Link, Donkey Kong Country, Mario Galaxy, Mario 3D World, while still getting the games we love like the 2D Marios with the Newer series.

The product, the Wii U, is NOT the actual reason why Nintendo is 'struggling' at this point in this generation. If you look at the market... what people tend to think is that it's some $300 gamepad for their Wii.

If you're a gamer and you shrug off the Wii U and keep trotting along right now playing games that are having their hand held on PS4/X1 so they can be released on last gen's system. Then you're sadly missing out on some of the best gaming that is available today - ESPECIALLY for couch co-op.


Sure, PS4 and Xbox One will pick up some steam in the next year or two, and I look forward to some great content from that... but there's nothing I missing out on from that side. However if someone loves gaming and is skipping Wii U... they're missing out pretty bad.

Gravity_Slave
Gravity_Slave

Oh geez really? Gonna play semantics? Fact is Nintendo has skipped every gen for the last 10 years, letting MS and Sony take the stage. Nintendo is NOT innovative. Putting out half a** proprietary hardware and milking it's mascots is not innovative.

People bash CoD for pumping out games every year but it's okay to play Mario Kart 8 and the millionth iteration if Pokemon...

Gravity_Slave
Gravity_Slave

Nintendo isn't releasing record fiscal losses and closing world wide offices (recently in Europe) because it's innovative.

Fact is, Nintendo is not doing well and it's because it painted itself into a corner. The Wii U was a mistake and quite frankly, it's days of riding on the success and residuals of the DS is coming to an end.

Master_Of_Fools
Master_Of_Fools

@Gravity_Slave Your whining about Nintendo not focusing on power in their consoles? Cause we certainly need 3 consoles that all do the same damn shit. Whether you like Nintendo or not is irrelevant, they are always different from Sony and Microsoft and get copied be Sony and Microsoft. Milking their mascots? Cause Microsoft doesn't do that with Halo.......the only Nintendo franchise thats milked it Mario, especially the NEW Super Mario Bros games. Zelda and such is not. COD uses the same engine for 7 years and is a copy and paste, Zelda is 1 every 5 years, and Pokemon is 1 every 4-5 years not including a remake. As for MK8 there is 1 per console...so I fail to see your issue with it.

Master_Of_Fools
Master_Of_Fools

@boringdork If a dev actually uses the Wii U to its best then truly marvelous things can be achieved. So many people think Wii U is weak cause of lazy 3rd parties who don't optimize their games on the Wii U get all buggy and they think oh well...guess Wii U is weak.