WB defends Batman: Arkham Origins

Creative director says "people have the right to be cynical," but believes gamers will be convinced when they try the game out.

Batman: Arkham Origins is the first entry in the series developed outside of Rocksteady Studios, leading some to be skeptical about the project.

The creative director at WB Games Montreal, Eric Holmes, acknowledged this skepticism in a new interview, but said gamers will believe in the title once they get to play it.

"I would say that people have the right to be cynical; they have the option to be cynical," Holmes told GameSpot. "Come and play the game at one of these events where we bring the game. And I think as soon as you've got the pad in your hand, you're going to see that this game is authentic and uses the same underpinnings and core mechanics of the previous Arkham games."

Adding value to Arkham Origins, Holmes said, is the game's new tactical features, another facet of the project he believes consumers will be drawn to.

Above all else, though, Holmes said he believes the story in Arkham Origins--which he wouldn't share details about--is the game's main draw.

"And I think we have a great story…I can't tell you too much about…but I can tell you I'm really excited about our story," Holmes said. "I think it's a very important Batman story and I think fans are going to love that probably more than any other thing in the game."

Rocksteady previously said it is confident that WB Games Montreal will make a "fantastic" Batman game in Arkham Origins. Rocksteady is rumored to be at work on a stylized Batman prequel due in 2014 at the earliest.

Batman: Arkham Origins launches October 25 for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, PC, and Wii U. A 3DS game--Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate--will launch the same day for the 3DS and PlayStation Vita developed by a group of former Metroid Prime developers at Armature Studios.

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josh7845
josh7845

How does he have the grappel upgrade if this is set YEARS before the original? I call bullshit! 

In all seriousness, it does look pretty good from what I've seen so far and Black Mask is a villain I haven't seen much of personally so it'll be good to see what goes on with him. 

TOBIAS_SAIBOT
TOBIAS_SAIBOT

@josh7845 It would have been a mistake if the grapnel boost wasn't included. It may be a prequel and therefore might not make sense, but in a subsequent action adventure game you want your character to feel better than before.  

super_voltron
super_voltron

I like how he says we have a right to be skeptical now because of that I'm going to give it a chance.

stev69
stev69

Kinda skeptical, but im happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, RS have essentially given them the creation kit and said here ya go knock yourself out. They would have to try really hard to fuck it up. 

Sure i'm disappointed Hamil has retired as his joker was very distinctive, Conroy not really fussed about, it was a typical batman voice nothing special. I'm happy for the Arkham IP to continue.

Gargus
Gargus

Im not going to judge it just yet but to me it looks like a game that will be 90% just like the other game with a little bit of new stuff in it but at the end of the game none of it will be good as the originals because the original creators aren't doing it, its someone new trying to copy their style.

Not to mention I hate prequels. They were a really cool idea when they first started coming out. But everything now has a damn prequel to it. Movies, comics, books, tv shows, video games, everything has prequels and origin stories. Id rather have new content instead of just going backwards and trying to explain something that didn't need explaining to begin with.

alpha_unit97
alpha_unit97

"No Kevin Conroy, it looks too similar to Arkham City, Rocksteady's not developing it, wah wah wah!"  Honestly, people are complaining about this for the most stupid reasons. If it was any more different from its predecessors you'd be bitching even more, and who the hell cares about voice actors, it should be more about the gameplay than anything.

nightmarecast
nightmarecast

I am already on board for this game, I need more Batmans!

kazama99
kazama99

I am going to wait on buying on release and see what happens.... Let someone else taste the wine, to see if its poison or not.. =P

TheGreyArea
TheGreyArea

sorry, negative comment, but so far, what I've seen of gameplay, and the absence of key voice-cast, this installment looks greatly inferior when measured against it's staggeringly great predecessors 

Ranma_X_basic
Ranma_X_basic

it doesn't bother me if the game is not made by rockstready. i still plan on buying it because i have no doubt it'll be damn good. heck getting to fight (and play as) Deathstroke is enough of a reason to purchase the game. plus there's a batman game for handhelds as well.

zac28
zac28

I honestly thought Arkham City sucked. Everything about it is so boring. I DL'd it and every now and then I think "Alright, I'll give it another chance", but have been disappointed every time. I played the demo for Arkham Asylum and I think that would have been more fun.

One of those games which is universally loved but I think sucks I guess. Like 'Left 4 Dead 2'.

tightwad34
tightwad34

Well, thanks for letting me know I can be cynical and therefore voice my opinion. Anyway, all I will say is I really hope it's not more of the same old, same old.

bonander
bonander

I was worried at first.  But when Rocksteady gave their support to the game, my worries went away.

bloody-hell
bloody-hell

I'm not really worried about the game itself - If they keep the combat system and the free roam approach to missions then it's already a pretty good, fun game.

What I'm worried about is the DRM and if they're going to require G4WL again.

This was pretty much the only reason why I still haven't bought either Arkham Asylum and Arkham City - Games for Windows Live - get rid of it and you can have my money, it's that easy.

Al_Capwn
Al_Capwn

I'm not seeing the problem here. So there's no Kevin Conroy. Not the end of the world. I've got faith this'll be a good game. Hopefully there'll be a demo

abhirajgoldy
abhirajgoldy

i dont know about this one,but i was more interested in the sequel of Arkham city, i am having the feeling that this will  not surpass Arkham city in any way

kisado87
kisado87

Other than being mechanically identical to Arkham City, no Conroy - what's to bitch about?

lorider25
lorider25

People have a problem with Batman? That's a first.

dr_jashugan
dr_jashugan

I wonder, why should people be cynical about a game that's NOT even out yet? :-o

555671ari
555671ari

I  can't think of a better game to end the current generation's superhero run! =]

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

Hey WB, until you give an explanation of why you took the game away from the original devs and have messed up voice acting, an explanation that doesn't involve cutting costs, I will continue to be cynical.

vongroove
vongroove

If there is no Kevin Conroy or Mark Hamill forget it!

edpeterson
edpeterson

Didn't these people work on the port of Arkham City for the Wii U? So really the only thing we would actually be concerned about is the story and playing a demo isn't exactly going to fix that concern. However, that being said I'm looking forward to the game! I'm not a super huge batman nerd so if they totally mess up some "continuity" stuff I doubt I'll be upset. Looks like fun, and I'm not concerned at all! 

The only thing I would have liked is that it was more like Arkham Asylum with an environment that feels awesome, instead of Arkham City which I thought had an environment that felt too empty and bland (at least the city parts). But hey, that's me and Arkham City was still a great game!

hadlee73
hadlee73

If there are Riddler trophies please don't increase the amount to 10,000 lol

Morbissus
Morbissus

I remember when people were just happy to have a good Batman game... 

The_Last_Paladi
The_Last_Paladi

Wow, I didn't know a lot of people was upset about the game.  I'm personally looking forward to it.  If I had a gripe about anything, it would be at how fast this prequel came out, but after seeing the game I think I'll be happy with it...

BromeisterBrosk
BromeisterBrosk

Wait people are upset about this game coming out? I can't fucking wait for this... Even if it's the exact game gameplay of Arkham City, there's nothing really wrong with that. I still replay that game

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

Gameplay wise, I'm really not expecting this game to be much different from previous Arkham games. And that's a good thing.

I'd just like to know why there's such a desire for prequels. By the time Rocksteady is done and the VITA game is out, 3/5s of this series will be prequels and sequels to prequels.

LS-Chaos
LS-Chaos

I can't get excited about it, it looks exactly the same to me. Took me awhile to get into Arkham City though, and it's gameplay videos didn't help me, so he's probably right! I won't know for sure till I get my hands on it.

Deadpool-n
Deadpool-n

I just wish the combat moves changed. It looks more like dlc so far. I mean I'm sure I'll enjoy it but it doesn't look any different than previous games.

VictorDJ10
VictorDJ10

Ugh, gamers bitch over the most ridiculous crap. "wah no Rocksteady for this Arkham game!" You do realize that this is in fact an Arkham game right? So the hell what if Rocksteady aren't developing or if it looks like Arkham City, Arkham 4 will obviously be next-gen. And does it matter if it looks like City? Would you have rather they tear it down from the ground up and risk screwing something up? You guys do understand this is a prequel right? I'm certain most of the complainers never contemplated that this could very well be the last current gen Arkham game hence using the same engine, but let's forget taking other matters into effect and go straight to complaining.

koospetoors
koospetoors

....I thought people were generally excited for it? Where's the skepticism coming from? 

visionedorange
visionedorange

can anyone tell me why bestbuy.ca has let me pre-order this game for the ps4, like did anyone every at anytime say it was comin to next-gen??

Chaos_Dante_456
Chaos_Dante_456

Well the Arkham series thus far has had a great track record, and the sequel was even better than the first in every way. So I can't really find myself being pessimistic at least not right now. I am curious how this game will manage to keep the Arkham formula fresh and ascend past where Arkham City left off in quality.

korvus
korvus moderator

I'm optimistic enough after E3, but I'm never "sold" until I try it for myself...

shadowriku3
shadowriku3

Am I the only one whose bored with rehashed gameplay?

Nick_Fury_Shine
Nick_Fury_Shine

This is very confusing ... like stockpiling logs for the fireplace to light in mid summer.

Devil_wings00
Devil_wings00

I was unaware people were skeptical at all ;p The last two games were great and this one looks to be more of the same but even bigger and longer then the last two (the area we roamed in AC is only half the map in this game). I'm fine with that as long as they refine it a bit and don't wreck what made the other two games great, I'm all for it. I would like to get some vehicles this time though. Rocking around town in my bat mobile would be fun ;p


Also can we please get a PC port that isn't a broken mess on release this time? That would be nice.

moleyUK
moleyUK

From what I saw from their demo to Gamespot at E3, it looks like it'll be a pretty decent inclusion in the Arkham series.

Their additions to the Detective Mode looked especially impressive.

Simplythebest12
Simplythebest12

The problem with the game is that it is very similar with Arkham City, It is not bad but looks more like a DLC than a new game

rahmie0789
rahmie0789

why the hell do they need to "defend" this?

petez34
petez34

The best defense is a good offense.

meedokicky
meedokicky

Keep it up guys, Loving what I've seen so far ;)

KillerOttsel
KillerOttsel

Defending? I wasn't aware that people were complaining about anything other then the voice changes. The game and story both seem just fine. Whats there to worry about.

Roland3710
Roland3710

Arkham City is one of my all-time favorite games (up there with Baldur's Gate and Half-Life 2, to name a couple others). I wasn't really sure where they could go after City and I'm still not certain about this prequel business but I do hope that Origins can live up to its predecessors.

wrestlemaniaw
wrestlemaniaw

still a pass... way too early to release another batman.... 

sortajan
sortajan

Skeptical? Who was skeptical? Fuck, now that they told me not to be skeptical all I am is skeptical.


WHAT ARE THEY HIDING FROM US?