Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor expansion has no flying until patch

No flying while leveling from level 90 to 100.

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The big news from Blizzcon last week was the announcement of World of Warcraft expansion: Warlords of Draenor, and the reveal that this won't be the final expansion. However, according to a post from a World of Warcraft community manager on the official Blizzard forums, the developers "intend to disallow flying while leveling from 90 to 100, and have flying become available again in the first major patch for Warlords of Draenor."

The lengthy post explains that flying while leveling was a special case allowed for Cataclysm since the way zones were mixed together, "it would have been really jarring to dismount you as you fly into Hyjal, etc. but we would have disallowed it for Catalcysm zones as well if there was a reasonable solution there."

The post says that the primary reason for the cut is that "flying trivializes combat... Flying allows you to escape or enter combat at-will. There's a reason why flying isn't allowed in dungeons and raids, or battlegrounds and arenas, and that's because it would trivialize the core mechanic of the game in those areas: combat. For much the same reason it trivializes how content is approached in the outdoor world based on the simple fact that you can lift off and set down wherever you like."

Players will be able to regain the ability to fly in Draenor with the 6.1 patch, but it won't be just a simple unlock you can pay gold for. The post explains, "Unlocking it won't just be level 100 on the day 6.1 comes out with some gold, but something you'll be working toward over the course of the initial expansion release, and 6.1 will introduce the final steps to complete it. It's such a enormous power to be able to fly we really want it to be more of a key moment when you unlock it, and something that feels like an accomplishment more than just shelling out some gold like we've had in the past."

Discussion

46 comments
christobar
christobar

ok so they stop us from flying for a bit... works great since I level a large group of alts in staggered progression by the time I get them some of the recipes and such from mop at 90 I very likely could of ground an extra level or 2 up and approach the wod expansion with more ease then just jumping in blindly and if I really feel put off about not flying I can simply stay in pandaria until the patch and make a killing in the ah selling gathered stuff that those rushing through don't have the time to gather.

telaros
telaros

Ghost Crawler said how if he had it his way during the start, no one would have flying mounts and land mounts alone would be more limited.

Problem with this Ghost, is that once you get people so used to something, it becomes so hard for them to let go of it. Flying feels great, it gives you so much freedom and lets you really enjoy the game and lets you explore areas you could never get to by land. This, will likely not change, but he's been wanting to do this since the launch of the prehistoric like isle.

In short, all too predictable Ghost Crawler being all too predictable again as he always foreshadows his "This is how I would do it_" 'genius' inputs.

wowgrandpa
wowgrandpa

so are they also saying that once you hit 100 you still can't fly until you do a quest after 6.1 releases? or is this just a restriction for leveling?


and btw, where's the ability for us to let our alts fly in pandaria while leveling already?

vadagar1
vadagar1

flying mounts should have never happened in the first place 

PinchySkree
PinchySkree

So why are they rushing it out again?

Darkefka
Darkefka

I understand why they disable flying for lvl 90-100 and I approve it wholeheartedly, however I find it kinda dumb to disable it until 6.1 altogether... it will just means more people in the capital cities because it's gonna be a pain going anywhere

Valkyrslayer
Valkyrslayer

I like it it is way more fun to explore the areas by foot in the beginning

Rooten
Rooten

that sucks, I love using the turtle shell to dismount people :D but yeah it means more PvP thats great but I can here some PvE player crying..no!? ;)

Meteor7
Meteor7

People are surprised by this?

Sevenizz
Sevenizz

This is news?  They never allow flying mounts at the beginning of an expansion.

Utnayan
Utnayan

Lets be honest. The reason for no flying is due to content in the expansion being consumed faster with shorter travel times. Which then means more subscription cancellations in-between content patches. It has nothing to do with anything else. They are simply trying to slow the trend. The excuse given is insulting to any gamer's intelligence. What's more insulting is that with the tremendous amount of profit this game pulls in, content patches are still, to this day, very slow. Instead of creating artificial travel hitches to slow people down, they should allocate more resources to more content to be consumed at the same rate it currently can be with flying mounts. But that may mean losing a couple million out of their hundreds of millions of profits now coming in. 

randomkidlol
randomkidlol

Mounts only sped up travelling around the massive world. For a first playthrough, its best if you walk through the entire area to fully enjoy and experience it.

This game isnt just about grinding for the best gear guys.

MysteryJ0ker
MysteryJ0ker

Judging from the comments, you can really tell who the veteran players are and who are the new players that were spoon fed purple gear.

GenTaylor84
GenTaylor84

Typical of blizzard to do this stupid thing... might as well put a real money auction house in wow as well.

DarkJedi8_basic
DarkJedi8_basic

Back in my day, you walked everywhere.  Until Level 40, then you got a 60% mount, if you had the gold.  Only until you hit level 60 did you get 100% movement speed increas with mounts...and more gold.

Kids these days! 

HammerOFdawn
HammerOFdawn

I honestly don't see what the big deal is.. Just let us friggen fly.

stlmemrie
stlmemrie

@vadagar1 I agree and disagree. Eons ago, when the game was first released, it took time and commitment to earn the right to fly. Buying that first flying mount was awesome. Then, as each expansion came out it felt trivial to move from area to area. Looking back, I was more absorbed in the environment when I had to spend countless minutes and hours running around, especially in PVP. 

Kr3Yc3K
Kr3Yc3K

@Rooten Wait, there's open pvp on your server?

The Horde:Alliance ratio on my server is 1:0.01 according to Wowhead.

Maoxx
Maoxx

@Sevenizz Well they never let your fly until you hit max level is what you mean. You have to wait for the first major patch before you get the option to fly. Still I wouldn't exactly call this something newsworthy and hell I was reading the forums when this was made and the aftermath it caused. Honestly I just figured it was the norm for the WoW forum boards.  

Link3301
Link3301

@Sevenizz Yeah, but they usually delay it til cap or close to cap. This is the first time that we will have to wait several months to fly, which I find pretty sweet.

helldragonzer
helldragonzer

@Utnayan most MMO are like this now, and it's even worst on f2p like DCUO and SW:TOR. They only care about the time it will take to make all the money they spent making the expansion back.

normanislost
normanislost

Well.... It is but that's after you level so get to look a round

Maoxx
Maoxx

@MysteryJ0ker I agree. You should have read the post where this is quoting from. So many, threats and tantrums going on there it was actually kind of sad. You can really tell which people started Pre BC and Post BC.......

nanosphere
nanosphere

@DarkJedi8_basic If you think vanilla WoW in 2004 was hard try vanilla EverQuest in 1999.

There were no mounts, only buffs certain classes could give you to run faster.  When you died you'd lose hours worth of experience and could lose levels, then you'd respawn naked at whatever city you were bound in.  If you didn't bind close by you may have to run on foot naked across the entire length of the world.  If you died deep in a dungeon you'd likely need someones help retrieving your corpse.  If you didn't get to your corpse in time all your equipment on it would go poof.

Rooten
Rooten

@Kr3Yc3K godamn!!! yeah there is still some but not a lot. There is more Horde on my server but the population for Alliance is not bad, but still, kinda dead.

justinhaywald
justinhaywald staff

@MigzBR @Sevenizz I think people were just surprised since it was allowed in Cataclysm. The official Blizzard boards went crazy.

wowgrandpa
wowgrandpa

@Maoxx @MysteryJ0ker its not about restricting flying for your main, but if you have a main at level 100 you should be able to buy a BOA license to send to your alts. that's the problem. pandaria has no such feature.

in pandaria, you also get screwed over by having alts that require exalted reputations on each of them to craft something as simple as the new tailoring bag. that was never a restriction in previous xpacs, and is just a slap in the face for all those subscribers who play a bunch of alts to keep themselves busy.... making alts unable to fly, and forcing them to each get exalted when they never used to is just flat out wrong.

blizzard did this stuff to slow down our progress in the hopes we would subscribe for more months. but its just something i refused to tolerate and i cancelled my sub. 

what kept me playing after seeing all the content in previous xpacs was the fun i made for myself. in this example it was having 5 tailors all collecting cloth and trying to make tailoring bags for all my alts. i could have just bought the bags on AH, but i wanted to feel like leveling my professions had a purpose. now they don't because i refuse to grind dailies to get exalted with some useless faction just to get my pattern 5 times.

Maoxx
Maoxx

@mobywv @DarkJedi8_basic You aint kidding. I remember having to grind SM for a little while to get the gold I needed for my raptor mount at the time. 

Ice-Cube
Ice-Cube

@mobywv @Ice-Cube No haven't touched that game since the 90's,  I just like the dragon in the avatar, calm down dude. Go back to WoW.

wowgrandpa
wowgrandpa

@MysteryJ0ker @wowgrandpa there's nothing "challenging" about farming dailies for 4 weeks to get exalted just to get your tailoring pattern that used to require zero rep of any kind! 5 alts with tailoring... biggest "fuck you" i've ever seen from blizzard.

i'm not a fucking casual. "heroic rag" ...sounds fun. when did you start playing wow? cata? i played since early vanilla before the first rag even launched, before that separation of difficulty even existed. i've got more raid time combined than you can imagine. none of that lfr crap. none of that "new normal" crap.

casual my ass.

some of us just don't have the appetite to eat the same bucket of shit (dailies) every day and pay blizzard $15 a month for the privilege to eat it.

 the game needs more features that are account bound: banks, professions, achievements, reputations, etc.

wowgrandpa
wowgrandpa

and this doesn't really fix the problem in MOP. MOP still doesn't allow alts to fly while leveling in pandaria. why?

 WOD is going to be similar to MOP, except they are offering to relax the rules for 6.1, but 6.1 won't come fast enough after 6.0 to make people happy. blizzard will still be forcing most players to level alts during the first month without flying. typically most raiders who play at launch will level at least 3 characters to max level during the first month alone (for guild raid progression). in this case, by the time 6.1 comes along it will not have helped anyone who really cares.

its a quality of life issue. and blizzard would rather slow down your progression than give you some convenience. sure, we're all for making us go through the quests once and yadayadayada... but theres no reason why we should not be able to fly on alts... (AND alts should be able to skip long RP cut scenes!) 

can we? nope. why? cause. having fun? no.

mobywv
mobywv

 @Ice-Cube   Go back to Wow?  A common expression used by x-wow players that now player another fail mmo.  How's Old Republic working out for you, bro?  No, No, let me guess.... Guild Wars 2?