Valve offers Source for 360

Version of Half-Life 2 engine optimized for Microsoft's console now available as developer middleware.

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Middleware solutions are becoming increasingly common as developers look to mitigate the costs of next-gen game creation. Epic Games' Unreal engine (Gears of War, Turok) and Emergent's Gamebryo Element (The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion) are a pair of popular engines currently being licensed out for use on the Xbox 360, but it looks like they're in for some new competition on the platform.

Today Valve Software announced that the Xbox 360 version of its Source engine is being offered to developers. The Source engine debuted with Valve's own Half-Life 2 and has since been licensed for use in PC games like Dark Messiah of Might and Magic and SiN Episodes: Emergence.

Half-Life 2 is scheduled to be released on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 in the first quarter of 2007, in a package that also includes the series' first two episodic content installments, as well as a pair of new games, Portal and Team Fortress 2.

[UPDATE] When asked if Valve was preparing to make the Source engine available as PS3 middleware, a representative of the company told GameSpot, "We're not currently working with Sony on PS3 middleware." While Valve is developing the Xbox 360 version of Half-Life 2 internally, is co-developing the PS3 version with an Electronic Arts studio.

Discussion

178 comments
Kruegmeister
Kruegmeister

@ PackersRock. I don't think not having the Source as Middleware will make the PS3 Lose. There are much better engines than the Source Engine.

PackersRock
PackersRock

I'm not trolling, but this is why the ps3 will lose.

kaziechameleon
kaziechameleon

i like the source engine, no other current game that is out has the animation capability of that engine, the character models look phenominal and the animations add to the lifelike qualities. i really like that source engine, and it gets new goodies every couple of months like HDRL and stuff. i like that valve is progressively working on that engine, rather than pumping out old liking titles like they did with half life 1. hopefully they won't wiat to long before begining developement on a new engine. for a full sequel. or maybe if they turn half life into a full on episodic only franchise, i'd like to see a new, or more greatly improved engine after the third episode.

2TrickedOut
2TrickedOut

The 360 is doing great lol I hope Valve never offers there middleware source engine to the ps3 even though I am going to own one. lol

lextexrex
lextexrex

We need more people like nappan in these boards.

FrostElf
FrostElf

nice, now I don't need a new comp *cheers*

Fauij
Fauij

nice...cant wait for CS:S and DoD

JEEBUS_BOGONDO
JEEBUS_BOGONDO

cool. did anyone else notice that half life 2 from the original xbox plays like crap pn the 360?

198d
198d

DoD and CS:S on 360....i cant wait

evilyoda861
evilyoda861

Oh Jesus God if they make Counterstrike playable on the 360 I will wet myself!

krumble
krumble

If Valve makes more money means more original games from them. So I'm all for this.

pathogenb
pathogenb

HL2 and the Source engine were optimized for ATI chips. this only makes sense.

childe_roland
childe_roland

This is great news but I've still got my fingers crossed for Counter Strike Source and Day of Defeat...

judge__judy
judge__judy

Wow cool, is the source engine still that impressive. I wouldn't know because I played half life 2 on a pentium 4 with a crud radeon x300 card.

UbAdm
UbAdm

JimHartley, Red Orchestra doesn't use the Source engine, it uses the Unreal engine.

blind59
blind59

Everyday I want more the PS3.......

fortiliano
fortiliano

Everyday I want less the PS3........

N00bl3t15
N00bl3t15

LOL did i hear someone say "source is far from pollished?"!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

jmahartley
jmahartley

This can only be good news for Valve and M$... Plus what if TripWire reworks RO and puts it on the 360..... RO and Portal OMG!!!

lavatruck
lavatruck

hopefully the servers wont suck like all the other Ea ones

nappan
nappan

Usual fanboy c**p aside, I'm happy that both of the "big" consoles as well as the Wii are looking good. I'd kill for a truly competative 3-way console environment for this generation. If the games are good I'll get all three consoles and use my PC... more games more games more GOOD games... is the key. It's all that matters. Valve getting involved in the 360 as well as sony is the best possible outcome for future projects... that said, I can't imagine playing HL2 on a console!

HyperMetaDragon
HyperMetaDragon

While Valve is developing the Xbox 360 version of Half-Life 2 internally, is co-developing the PS3 version with an Electronic Arts studio. Correction: it should say: While Valve is developing the Xbox 360 version of Half-Life 2 internally, Valve is co-developing the PS3 version with an Electronic Arts studio.

Xrm150
Xrm150

Can't wait to get my hands on the games!

jackle2071
jackle2071

im am quite shore that some day valve will come around and let the PS3 have the sorce engine. but if not sony does not need to sorce engine im shore some copany like say hmmm crytek will come out with a onpar or even better engine!

Tactician
Tactician

He he he.. .sweet. Valve's engine is a welcome addition. It is also telling that they are holding back on the ps3. It all adds up..

mojahid_1st
mojahid_1st

I can't wait for portal! if you have'nt seen the trailer yet you have to check it out! looks awesome!!!

gellis1981
gellis1981

This is completely working towards MS plans of multi-crossing platforms explain by Mr. Gates at E3 this year...where 360 players will be able to play with/against windows{PC} players. XBL will interlace with windows vista.

aygol
aygol

Sweet!! Who cares about Sony anymore???

tundraman
tundraman

Sweet. Day of defeat and red orchestra for the 360 ^ _ ^..... someday.

over_18
over_18

sony might have a better system but microsoft still all the connects hahha

FearNinja
FearNinja

It seems as though no one cares about Sony anymore. haha.

Berfomek_666
Berfomek_666

pretty cool, but the pc version will still be the best!

mike-oxbig
mike-oxbig

HL2 + EP1 + EP2 + TF2 + PORTAL?? On 1 disk?? What a sweet deal! i got HL2 on the first xbox, and it was ok but it sure was f-ugly, i'd like to relive it all on the 360 in HD!

BranKetra
BranKetra

Good to know that companies are finally going to begin developing multiplatform games with work that utilizes the capabilities for each system, rather than the "Assasin's Creed effect".

fffreak1
fffreak1

this is really good, i think half-life will be amazing on the 360.

oosoup2
oosoup2

depends would CS:S be inlcuded any where along the lines?

Rockin_MixMasta
Rockin_MixMasta

You're obviously insane, falcon642. I run a 3ghz 1gig of RDRAM and Radeon 9800 XT and my load times are FINE. It takes me about 5-10 seconds to quicksave. And the initial loading of a game is not much longer than that. a) 360 does not need more FPS games b) No mods = Big problem c) No CS:S or DoD:S = OWNED!

ulrikz
ulrikz

I think the engine is good and all, but is it really that console friendly? Hmm, and I wonder on how advanced one can go with graphics on the engine. :P

falcon642
falcon642

I hesitate to think what the loading times for HL2 are going to be like on the 360. I played HL2 on a 3Ghz computer with 1.5Gb of RAM and the loading in that game was almost unbearable at times. HL2 on the 360 could make Oblivion seem like a smooth running game. (Not a dig at Oblivion as I loved that game and dropped 130hrs into it.)

defogger
defogger

Well the graphics for Half Life 2 will be improved or equal to the high-end PC versions. It might be good to revisit Half-life 2 on the 360 with out having to worry about the stresses of a PC. And the new content MIGHT be worth checking out.