Valve nixes cross-platform Counter-Strike: GO play

Company says it won't "hamstring" PC/Mac players of Global Offensive by tying them to PS3 version's update schedule.

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Valve's cross-platform play plans for Counter-Strike: Global Offensive have apparently been scuttled. Joystiq reports today that the game company has decided to not combine PlayStation 3 gamers with PC/Mac players on the same servers.

Valve has identified the weak point in its supply chain.

"The beta has proved we want to update not just the beta, but the game itself post-launch frequently on the PC," Valve's Chet Faliszek said. "To do that, we need to separate the platforms so one doesn't hamstring the other. So for that, we have removed the idea of cross-platform play--essentially make all platforms stronger by not mixing them."

An update to the decade-old Half-Life 2 mod, Counter-Strike: GO is in development for the PS3, Xbox 360, PC, and Mac. The game introduces new modes, weapons, maps, and characters to the franchise, and it will also support matchmaking and leaderboards. The game is currently in a beta-testing phase.

For more information, check out GameSpot's previous coverage of Counter-Strike: Global Offensive.

Discussion

64 comments
LtReviews
LtReviews

Sony and Microsoft need to make the approval process for distributing updates over their live services easier for developers.

 

On steam, and pretty much every other digital distribution platform, updates can be given out by the developer swiftly. But Microsoft and Sony tend to act as a delaying buffer that makes it a slower process.

 

There's good reasons for this- to ensure that patches don't contain any bugs that can harm the system; but there's gotta be a faster way to make those checks.

 

 

Wartotehlock
Wartotehlock

Yea when I first heard the idea on this cross platform I knew it woudn't stick. Just sounded like a bad idea.

littleghostie
littleghostie

Thats to bad i was looking for to being able to play with some of my pc only friends but now i'll half to just stick with killzone 3.

aussiemuscle
aussiemuscle

i doubt it has anything to do with protecting ps3 players from pc. more likely they'll need to patch the pc version more often. valve knows it'll need to patch and patch often.

holtrocks
holtrocks

@Stoopid_Fool lol ya its just obvious u can move faster on PC there would have to be a cap on how we had our sensitivity or something just would not be fair

parrot_of_adun
parrot_of_adun

@Marky360 The problem is that you have no metric by which to gauge your skills relative to that of your opponents when this particular variable enters the picture. There are a wide variety of possibilities that could account for your experiences, yet say nothing (or even the opposite) about the facility of your particular controller, or theirs. The easier way, I would think, would be to watch the best of the best do their own thing in their native setting. I've never seen a 360 pad do what a pro KBM user can do (say, watching a Halo pro, then a CS pro, then comparing the two). Just the same, I could never do with a pad what I can do with KBM, however unimpressive that may be.

GR_F33L
GR_F33L

i am deeply disappointed.. i was waiting for this just to pwn some controller/joypad n00bs and then tell them see? thats how its meant to be played..

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

wait did they saythis was a graphical update? this looks soo ugly. the engine might play as a beauty but it isnt aesthetically pleasing

lbennett12
lbennett12

so dissapointing i was looking forward to playing it with my buddies on pc!? anyway hopefully they dont axe support for mouse and keyboard on ps3

theKSMM
theKSMM

This is disappointing news, but I still hold out hope for a future where gamers will be able to engage each other across platforms--PCs, handhelds, mobile phones, tablets, and more.

s4dn3s5
s4dn3s5

More like, " we just noticed how freakin' bad consoles gamers were getting raped by pc users, so we gave up". It's cool Valve, we all knew this would happen.

MERGATROYDER
MERGATROYDER

Saw this coming. They can talk about how it won't be unfair to console gamer's at all, but things arise. This news is proof of that.

Marky360
Marky360

@parrot_of_adun Actually thats not true I've played on PC with an Xbox 360 controller and I had no problem getting kills against what I would assume were other players using M/K. I think the myth that K/M are that much more accurate then controller's is just that a myth. I've used both and I don't see K/M as anymore accurate then a controller I mean if it were considerably more accurate then why wouldn't Sony and Microsoft commission the use of K/M on there respective consoles they both feature a usb port so there's no reason they wouldn't do it other then the fact that K/M is not needed because controllers work just as fine.

kkxtrouble
kkxtrouble

@parrot_of_adun Indeed, KBM is much easier to, well, aim. It's hard to compare beause they use different controllers, so it's about which one gives you more mobilittly. The mouse allows you more movement and ends up being faster, ps3 players would have a hard time against veterans pc players. If you have played any cs on the pc you know what these people can do, it's almost inhumane.

kkxtrouble
kkxtrouble

@graphidz I think that is pretty hard to do, i think you would to convince both MS and Sony to let you do it, plus i don't know if it is possible to do it. This is a game you'll' want to play on the PC, Cs is a game with a great community, some people go a little overboard, this is a game that will get many mods and stages from players so in this case it's the best plat. But it's also great to have it for the consoles, if only there was a way to mod on them it would be an even battle. Still, i'll wait to see if and to which system they'll get their copies before i make my move.

Stoopid_Fool
Stoopid_Fool

Also lol that my first comment got so many thumbs down.

Stoopid_Fool
Stoopid_Fool

@holtrocks You're underestimating my cs skills. But ya playin on a pc is way better.

graphidz
graphidz

how about putting ps3 and 360 players then?probably gonna have a ps3 vs 360 match,but what the heck,both uses controllers,so it should be fair

zulwalks
zulwalks

My game design lecturer thought the idea of cross platforming was stupid...........i dont know what he said after that since he's french and his accent is very thick

ryzrocks
ryzrocks

I'm a PC/PS3 owner...so I initially thought of buying a PC version of this game...and I'm still gonna buy the PC version when it releases...though I wish that this cross-platform thing would have worked....I really hoped that if I buy the PS3 version, I'll get a code for the PC version....looks like that's not happening this time :P

parrot_of_adun
parrot_of_adun

@Marky360 You have no more evidence than akdiuuuryttt. None of us can say with any accuracy which system has the most skilled players, but what I DO know, is that if you were to pit two equally skilled players against eachother, but had one use KBM, and the other a PS3 pad, the former would have a much easier time of it.

Marky360
Marky360

@akdiuuuryttt I honestly doubt that I've played some PC games online and the PC players really don't have anymore skill then anybody else.

MrHatnClogs
MrHatnClogs

At least they had an interesting idea.

ZeroX91
ZeroX91

Man, I actually wanted the easy kills. :( lol

akdiuuuryttt
akdiuuuryttt

ps3 users would of just got owned by pc players which wouldnt be fair for the ps3 users anyways

Grovilis
Grovilis

I find it odd yet refreshing to see such a big company like Valve always making player conscious decisions. Kudos to you wonderful people.

AuronAXE
AuronAXE

PC players woulda whooped PS3 players, but I admit that it would have been fun. Valve knows what they are doing however. The final result should be interesting.

fightingfish18
fightingfish18

Well hmm. I play both PC and PS3. Yes, I like my PS3, but I couldn't imagine playing CS against PC players after playing Counter Strike Source...

SolidSnakeUS42
SolidSnakeUS42

I hope this means they will fix the horrendous PC buying menu.

TheArcade
TheArcade

I still need that Episode 3 Valve.

Poodger
Poodger

This was a wise move on Valve's part. I would hate to be punished for having to play with the limitations of a console. Not to mention the insane skill difference there would be.

FuryX-4
FuryX-4

Well, kinda sad that the PS3 won't cross-platform with PC/Mac since they added a keyboard and mouse support for PS3, but because of constant update on PC like TF2 (that's probably why the 360 and PS3 version of TF2 never gets an update), I guess it's for the best.

aryeec
aryeec

Great news! *nods* :3

XenoNinjaX
XenoNinjaX

very disappointing news. this means ps3 version's online community will die within 6 months.

holtrocks
holtrocks

@Stoopid_Fool lol dude while your taking 3 seconds to turn around iv already shot u in the head.

Stoopid_Fool
Stoopid_Fool

What the f***? I was really lookin forward to kickin pc gamers' butts from my ps3. Seriously now I have to buy a new pc just to get some good CS competition.

homeman90
homeman90

disappointed i wont be able to play with my ps3 brethren and show them the speed of mouse and keyboard

ColdfireTrilogy
ColdfireTrilogy

I for one am happy for this. Being held back patch wise because of the obtusely long console certification times is just asinine in todays competitive gaming leagues. We cant wait 3 weeks to fix a crippling exploit in an e-sport ...

x_hunter00
x_hunter00

So based on this video CS players don't believe in aiming and these graphics are horrendous!

mortis1982
mortis1982

I think they should have cross platform play so finally console kids and PC elitists can finally STFU about which is better and we all can move on.

hobotech64
hobotech64

Pad players would be wasting their time anyway.

TheVGamer
TheVGamer

Phew, cross platform has never worked when PC is involved. Maybe they'll add it later but It's best to polish the game first.

Richardthe3rd
Richardthe3rd

Playing Counter-Strike well requires cyborg-like reflexes and microscopic precision aim. I don't understand how it would be possible to play this game well with a pad against people using keyboards and mice on the PC. Let alone the other issues noted in this article.

MEDzZ3RO
MEDzZ3RO

So what Valve are basically saying is that they can't balance a game to release it, taking the easy way out it seems.... DICE seem to manage to update the consoles just fine albeit separately but together it should be possible. Looks like the servers won't be active on PS3 long then, on that basis I'm not getting it, it was never going to sell massively on console anyway. Most console gamers have the mentality that it's "old fashioned", the cross-platform play would be needed to ensure the servers remain active. I heard the PS3 was going to support mouse and keyboard use via USB anyway? The peripheral gap wouldn't have been an issue.

tidusjeff
tidusjeff

Taking a guess not many people use thefrag fx for mouse and keyboard controls on there playstation 3s anymore.

khaledgh
khaledgh

 @GR_F33L thats just stupid.. is proving someone wrong that big of a goal?