Ubisoft fires another Assassin's Creed producer - Report

Patrice Desilets claims producer Jean-François Boivin also let go this week.

It appears that Assassin's Creed creator Patrice Desilets did not leave Ubisoft alone yesterday. The developer claimed on Twitter today (via Polygon) that Ubisoft also fired Assassin's Creed producer and co-worker at THQ Montreal Jean-François Boivin.

"Thinking of my good friend and producer @JFBoivin who also got fired yesterday," Desilets wrote. "I'm sharing your support with him…"

According to his LinkedIn page, Boivin joined Ubisoft in 2005, when he served as project manager for Star Wars Lethal Alliance and Splinter Cell Essentials. In May 2006, he became a production manager at Ubisoft, overseeing development on Assassin's Creed and its sequel.

In 2009, Boivin shifted to an associate producer role at Ubisoft, where he managed and led a multidisciplinary team and shipped Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. He left Ubisoft in 2010 to begin work at THQ Montreal on an all-new IP.

Ubisoft purchased this studio and its games during the THQ bankruptcy auction for $2.5 million. Desilets claimed yesterday that Ubisoft fired him without merit. In a statement sent to media, he alleged wrongdoing on the part of Ubisoft and said he plans to fight back.

"Contrary to any statements made earlier today, this morning I was terminated by Ubisoft," Desilets said at the time. "I was notified of this termination in person, handed a termination notice, and was unceremoniously escorted out of the building by two guards without being able to say goodbye to my team or collect my personal belongings."

"This was not my decision," he added. "Ubisoft's actions are baseless and without merit. I intend to fight Ubisoft vigorously for my rights, for my team and for my game."

An Ubisoft representative was not immediately available to comment.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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193 comments
chronocommander
chronocommander

The last time I saw a witch hunt like this it was when all Megaman titles in the pipeline were axed following the ousting of Keiji Inafune from Capcom, except here it's about prominent AC leads. They probably complained about the insane idea of releasing one of these every year and not going into anything new. If Prince of Persia team thought like that, they would never have made Assassin's Creed after the PoP Sands of Time series! Way to go Ubi, you're increasingly becoming like EA as far as your internal policies are looking.

Atombomb1981
Atombomb1981

Well, people need to bring more revenue to companies if they want to be kept. Forget talent, forget creativity, it's all a game of coins.

benbonney
benbonney

Congrats UBISoft, you have joined the big boys league of EA and Activision..... roll on the shit rehashed games for the next 10 years

PinchySkree
PinchySkree

Ubisoft did it's damage to Company of Heroes and it's obnoxious unwanted DRM  so can safely stay on the blacklist. Do people still need rehashes of this franchise?

ShinjiEx
ShinjiEx

I'm not buying Black Flag now.

AenaosMonomaxos
AenaosMonomaxos

The whole world has gone mad.This is nothing weird.There must be some explanation for this..

Sefrix
Sefrix moderator

So essentially Ubisoft is firing people with talent and good ideas because that is no longer needed. Good to know. 

Supabul
Supabul

He wants to get away from Ubisoft to create a new ip, but now Ubisoft own his new ip and fired him. LOL

DoomBFG86
DoomBFG86

And so, the series goes further down the drain of mediocrity.

soulfulDAGGER
soulfulDAGGER

Sad news. Obviously whatever it was, violated corporate policy. It doesn't matter if you are an employee, manager, supervisor, or even a CEO. When the chief says get out, you gotta leave. The main reason why companies request Security for escort for a terminated employee is if they feel a confrontation may take place and or to assist with carrying the employees immediate belongings off the premises, to their vehicle. It's a normal procedure and no one should look down upon it or feel embarrassed. I'd hate to speculate on what the real story was.   

Slinqy
Slinqy

I'm extremely sorry to see these two guys go, especially Patrice. I was excited when I finally heard he had come back, and now this happens. Seems like there will be dark days ahead for Assassin's Creed, because really, when Desilets was around Assassin's Creed was at its best. And with the way Assassin's Creed has dipped in quality over the years, I'm having doubts about Black Flag.

Holoogamooga_
Holoogamooga_

Obviously we only have one side of the story, but with software like uPlay out there, I'm pretty inclined to hate Ubisoft for this.

Rizer
Rizer

It's always hard to form some kind of opinion on articles like these because there are almost no details to them. Why were they fired according to ubisoft? Why the escort by guards? What was Ubisoft thinking?

ApocaLeepse
ApocaLeepse

Considering one of them oversaw development of the first and second AC, does this mean that the games are going to decrease in quality even further? Because in my opinion, we haven't had a decent storyline since the second game. Brotherhood was all right, but a disappointment compared to the second game and Revelations was just downright terrible. The third game's gameplay was good, but I found the plot to be lacking in depth and emotion.

acelogan1989
acelogan1989

ubisoft hate them , that's why they bought the studio just to fired them for the second time . the sensation was satisfying . hahahaha

JangoF-76
JangoF-76

Yeah, you don't get escorted from the building by guards for anything less than gross misconduct - but hey, let's all slam Ubisoft based on this vague one-sided story and because they put out a few mediocre games and pissed off the PC crowd with the DRM thing.

Pathetic.

smtgfx
smtgfx

I'll take a shot at his job. 

Hilux-
Hilux-

ya, I think AC2 was the one with the DRM.

anyways, I study hard, soon I'll be working hard if I get a good job, and I don't mind them milking away their product as long as it is still fun.

troll_eat_troll
troll_eat_troll

makes me wonder if Ubisoft bought THQ Montreal to fired these 2 guys because they left Ubisoft but also able to obtain new ip's at the same time.  2 birds with 1 stone.

Desilets was a creative director on AC1 & AC2 and Boivin was a production manager at Ubisoft, overseeing development on AC1 & AC2, the 2 best AC games with AC2 on top.  Brotherhood was great no doubt, but not as great as the first 2 but AC franchise went downhill from then on without those 2 guys, therefore Ubisoft is pissed off.

 

TigusVidiks
TigusVidiks

Something happend. Nobody gets escorted out of a building without a proper story behind it.  Still, it's Ubisoft, what did you expect?

Joutja
Joutja

Maybe Ubisoft is the real world's version of Abstergo! And they are making the AC games to make us think it's just a story but actually it's all true! :O :P


dman123_1
dman123_1

I dunno, I dont think he is telling the whole truth here. He never got his belongings?? They either let you gather them from your desk, or they gather them up for you and put it in a box on your way out. Plus, being terminated doesn't mean he was "fired" (the bad kind of fired).  I'm not saying Ubi handled it well. If true, then they handled it poorly, but I think there are some holes in this.

tionmedon
tionmedon

they r good people they will find jobs.................fap it.................

Devilish102
Devilish102

Why would Ubisoft fired someone who is very talent. I almost feel sorry for that guy.

jhcho2
jhcho2

Lol, everyone immediately jumping to conclusions despite not know a thing about why whatever happened happened.

zero_reiko
zero_reiko

Ubisoft is being plague by Templars... They are firing the assassins one by one to make a new version of assassins creed where the templars won..

cdog21
cdog21

Are they Godfathering everyone that left for THQ?

El_Zaggy
El_Zaggy

Worked at Ubisoft, they a NO respect for any of their employees. It doesnt surprise me that other former emplyees talk shit about them because its damn true. Ubisoft is really a bad emplyer. If I were to go back in the gaming industry I would NEVER associate myself to Ubisoft. For the people who think its nice to work in the game industry, watch out for Ubi.

david1230
david1230

support games via kickstarter, and get rid of companies like ubi, EA, IW & acti

N4o7A
N4o7A

Hmmm. something is going on with Ubisoft...

hadlee73
hadlee73

I don't dislike Ubisoft, but this doesn't look like it was handled particularly well. If you let go someone you respect in your company you hold goodbye party/lunch for them. You don't escort them out. Surely there must be more to this.

KelpsterD
KelpsterD

Remember folks; there are always two sides to a story. I'd like to hear Ubi's side as well before I jump on the "Fuck Ubisoft for Being a Terrible Employer" bandwagon.

wwlettsome
wwlettsome

@ApocaLeepse I haven't played AC3 yet but I completely agree with your assessment of the other games. I think the franchise has already hit it's peak and we are unlikely to see anything more than a continuation of derivative sequels going forward. It's feeling like another franchise that has lost it's way.

Chr0noid
Chr0noid

@JangoF-76 Wrong.  Guards escort you out regardless of whether you did something majorly wrong.  It's standard protocol.  Get your facts straight.  My mother was at her place of work for 15 years without so much as a single mistake and when she was fired, she was escorted out like all the others before her. 

Rizer
Rizer

@JangoF-76  ...unless Ubisoft did actually violate his rights and he got upset enough to justify the use of guards...but we don't know anything from this vague article. So there is nothing but implications and guesses. I'm guessing that you are right about misconduct, but without some solid information from both parties this article is mostly a waste of time to speculate on. Can't really side with anyone until we know what's going on after all.

kingstag
kingstag

@TigusVidiks That's just flat out wrong. Escorting upper management out of buildings upon termination is SOP.

wwlettsome
wwlettsome

@dman123_1 Not necessarily. Sometimes they allow people to come back on a weekend to collect their stuff when no one is around or they box them up and allow them to pick them up at another time. Again, typically when no one is around.

BlazingSpeed
BlazingSpeed

@david1230  yep cut out the middle man video games for people who play games by people who also play games...

Higurashinoni
Higurashinoni

@hadlee73 I feel like some of your preconceived notions of being fired comes from The Office.

ibonedyourmom
ibonedyourmom

@hadlee73 You don't hold a goodbye party for somebody you're firing. That is absolutely retarded.

El_Zaggy
El_Zaggy

@KelpsterD Ive got enough of personal side story myself agaisnt them, and trust me, Ubi doesnt tell the truth often.....And having worked there, saw a load of lies for a life time,, it is not surprising that they getting a bad reputation now. If youre talented, have ideas, is a leader, dont go to ubi. Go for better studios.

hadlee73
hadlee73

@ibonedyourmom @hadlee73 @Higurashinoni It can be a very tiring exercise to explain things like this over and over again, but here I go (again, lol). You'll notice (when you read it) my post doesn't mention "firing". Many people are being let go from the gaming industry this year because companies cannot afford to keep them on. This is being "disestablished". The producers and devs involved in this article claim they have been "fired". To be "fired" and escorted from the building, you generally need to have done something VERY bad. When someone is let go/disestablished (ie. not from doing anything wrong themselves) there is quite often a going away party, because there is no animosity towards the employee.

And please note this comes from someone FROM the industry, so this is from experience, not from watching a TV show.


SO (sigh, lol), my point (as read above) is because this guy was fired and escorted from the building (and not fare-welled), there has to be a hell of a lot more to this than he is tweeting about.

BlazingSpeed
BlazingSpeed

@ibonedyourmom @hadlee73 especially if the said persons that were fired quit your company before. The only bad thing here was that they didn't let them clean out their desks and claim their personal property before escorting them out of the building.

10171981
10171981

@El_Zaggy @KelpsterD So basically you can SEE that since Ubisoft is considered to be a "bad" employer, thats why probably would FIRE anyone who quit on them before then.(given that fact that IF they don't respect their OWN people at Ubisoft as an  LOYAL employee  then they probably would not mind getting rid of the ones that quit on them before)...