Two UK retailers ban Bully

Currys and PC World refuse to stock the game, citing the "explicit link between violence and children".

Some UK retailers are refusing to stock Rockstar Games' forthcoming PS2 title Bully, called Canis Canem Edit in the UK. Retailers Currys and PC World, both owned by DSG International Plc., will not sell the game when it goes on sale in Europe on October 27. In a statement, Currys said that the game is "not appropriate for Currys' family-friendly image."

Currys does stock many other non-family-orientated titles, including Saints Row, Gangs of London, Yakuza, and Rockstar's own Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Spokesperson Mark Webb told GameSpot that "we realise that we've got other games that are more violent, we do know that, but we are a family store. The game is specifically about violence in the playground and that is the reasoning behind the decision [not to stock it]."

The official statement lists what Currys believes is "the explicit link between violence and children" as the reason behind the ban, and continues: "We haven't taken this decision lightly, particularly considering the excellent relationship we have with Rockstar."

When asked whether Currys had ever banned any other games, Webb replied: "I don't think so, no. Definitely not in the last year, anyway... We chose not to stock Manhunt or Hitman." He also confirmed that the decision would apply across all UK companies under the DSG group umbrella, which will therefore include PC World.

However, the ban will likely not have much effect on the game's UK sales, as most other popular UK retailers are happily accepting preorders, including dedicated games stores Game and Gamestation, as well as HMV and Virgin Megastores, online stores Amazon and www.play.com, and other 'family' store Woolworths.

Woolworths commented on the decision to stock the game by pointing out that it will have a 15-certificate in the UK, which is strictly enforced in its stores to prevent sale to those under this age. In a statement, a spokesperson for Woolworths said: "We will be stocking Canis Canum Edit, which is expected to be a popular video game... Like any other retailer, we must be guided by the government and relevant regulators on issues of taste and decency. In this case the game is classified suitable for people aged 15 and over and Woolworths will strictly enforce legislation preventing its sale to anyone younger."

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sorpaqq
sorpaqq

It angers me when people want an game with an interesting premise and setting like Bully banned, as if they're saying that games shouldn't be allowed to not have generic bald space marines and dumb plots. I seem to recall someone who said that with Grand Theft Auto rockstar had really pushed the limits of good taste but with Bully they really have gone too far, oh my god Hitler said less stupid things than that, it's like someone analyzing a murderer's various crimes and saying that he was a real bastard when he raped that woman but that he really went too far when he stole that grape.

phillipissuperb
phillipissuperb

Curry's stocking Gta but saying that Bully is not family friendly enough for them to sell is like a man being perfectly fine with raping a woman but thinking that stealing an apple is wrong.

Goldbergfan1110
Goldbergfan1110

what the hell are these guys talking about they stock Grandtheft auto for christ sake. thats one of the most bloody games ever created and not even mentioning the prostitutes and hookers in that game. Yet they don't feel like selling manhunt hitman and bully which by the way is only teen. I mean come on. So gang wars are alright in a video game but a kid in bully getting a wedgie is a crime give me a break thats not even making any sense. Idk curry's at all but they sound remarkably retarted at this point.

Stabby
Stabby

Like that matters! People go to GAME, GameStation etc to buy their games...

crimsonazure12
crimsonazure12

Hi I work for Currys.digital and I will say that we are not a major software company (well not with games software). Most of our computer game sales are purely hardware and hardware bundles. With most of our PS2 software being sold for children in the run up to christmas, it does make sense not to stock a game which is not suitable for them. Also on a possitive note for us... it's one less game we have to worry about parents buying for their children, only to come back to us complaining about the content... :)

Castlevania1986
Castlevania1986

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Hippie_Hair
Hippie_Hair

I look at you all, see the love, love thats weeping, while gaming is gently weeping

Runningflame570
Runningflame570

Sounds like somebody has been listening too much (that means at all) to Jack "I'm not going to jail" Thompson

Shingo
Shingo

Wow, THANKS JACK! for scaring people enough not to stock a TEEN rated game! Keep up the crusade, buddy!

AlCanDrive55
AlCanDrive55

Tell the truth the last place I'd go to buy a game is PC World or Currys, I'd by a washing machine in Currys, or a graphics card in PC World but I wouldn't exactly get up in the morning and decide to stroll down to my Local PC World and buy a PLAYSTATION game.

GTCzeero
GTCzeero

This doesn't really matter anyway, because I've never met anyone who buys games from Curry's and PC World instead of real game retailers.

houtx1836
houtx1836

why don't they just id people who buy the game?

TorugotoShinsan
TorugotoShinsan

Curry's is a terrbile store that rips off cunsomers with overpriced goods. i don't shop there anyway so this doesn't really bother me.

Scorpion16
Scorpion16

This is so incredibly hypocritical. So kids shoving each other and giving each other swirlies is "not suitable for a family store" but prostitution, murder, drugs, and gang life is? Wow I truely do weep for the human race.

sadadsa111
sadadsa111

How dare some middle-aged, middle-class pencil neck choose what I can and can't see, play or listen to! I am totally against censorship, if you don't want your underage kids to see material like this, keep them away from it...it's rated for a reason.

dominae
dominae

I hate double standards in all forms. They stock GTA:SA with a big, fat M for Mature, but not Bully. They're buying in to the media. Grrr.

rl_41
rl_41

I guess some people are just soft like that...

iceuk
iceuk

Maybe it's really cause they don't want the chavs breaking their windows just to buy/steal the game.

bobreturns
bobreturns

i agree with you kavadias1981 my lil bro in reception (the lowest year) starts fights on people in yr 2 lol

TheShowStopper
TheShowStopper

Even though i dont buy from Rip off Currys or PC World, do they not realise that you are against the bullies, and 'mean teachers'. Also WTF is up with the stupid name change for UK Release ... Canis Canem Edit, yea that roles right off the tounge nicly.... Should have kept with bully much better... Still looks like a good game, and im sure it will sell fine, without the 2 sold from PC world (from there own employees with staff discount)

G1Ga-B1T3
G1Ga-B1T3

OMG....If you don't like something someone has to say you : DON'T LISTEN!! same with games if you don't like it DON'T BUY IT. Man!! I am sick of games getting a bad wrap as a result of bad parenting....... "My kid saw it on a video game made by Rockstar and is now dunking kids head's in the toilet for lunch money! Oh no!" Makes me sick.................parents take responsibiltiy instead of blaming game publisher's.

yoshirox85
yoshirox85

I wish these idiots would actually play the game or at least research it. There is nothing bad about this game. IGN said it's only as bad as a cartoon on Nickelodeon.

kavadias1981
kavadias1981

It wouldn't BE a problem if the game was actually played by those who are 15 and over. The reality is that kids will get their hands on this and that is where the troule lies. Are any of you who are praising this game actually aware of the rapid increase in violence in primary schools? (this is in the UK) Young kids have enough negative influences already and this games is just fuel on the fire. It is stupid to ban any game. What has to happen is for something to be done about the idiot parents that allow young kids to play games like this. Does anyone agree?

jknight15
jknight15

I dont buy games from them anyway :P

over_18
over_18

well what ever im happy as long as these games are still being made cuase as long as they are the morons who try to stop em are are swearing their virgin asses off trying to plot the nxt best way to do it so kudos to u take two, rockstar and any others i forgot to mention

jsambeckwith
jsambeckwith

How are Currys and PC world games retailers?

ControllerLord
ControllerLord

I don't get it. I know that Britain is a little more strict on video games than we (America) is, but that doesn't fully explain their logic. If 13+ gamers (Britain, if I'm not a mistaken American moron, tries to prevent games rated for that age group from getting into underaged gamers hands) want this game, they'll just go to another retailer. In the words of every early-90's kid, "Duh!!' The other point is, did Take Two come up with the idea of swirlies and wedgies? Hell No! Every kid knows what they are, and how to do them; they just fear the repracussions, which is what happens in Bully. You do something, there are consiquences. These retailers just happen to be caught up in all of this anti-violence and "let's not make ourselves look bad" stuff. Let's ignore this, because there will be other retailers that will carry it, and also because doesn't concern some of us.

dragkill
dragkill

"What next? Currys and PC World refuse to stock resident evil, citing the "explicit link between zombies and shotguns"." I find it oddly strange that they strike out at games made by Take Two/Rockstar, but I don't see anyone complaining about Capcom, i.e. Dead Rising, Resident Evil. Really I think that the only difference is Humans and Zombies. (Actually Dead Rising can be very violent, but no one is crying or even mentioning about that game. :P )

GTCzeero
GTCzeero

I don't understand this, from what i've seen it isn't as violent or corrupting as people (Mr. Thompson, and these two shops) claim. It seems closer to the Harry Potter films (but better) than its former name suggests.

wild_world_girl
wild_world_girl

shuhanmiah13657: "Very Very Boring game dont wanna get it " You're as bad as Jack Thompson if you are willing to judge a game without playing it.

Willceace
Willceace

Well, One of my mates who worked in a game shop for a while said something that makes sense. These high street retailers will be getting more press for not selling the game. And hypothetically get more customers. The press the store would get in the major tabloids would outweigh the sales that the game would make. Apparently..... More Press, More Customers.

surferboy2177
surferboy2177

The thing that really bugs me the most about all this stuff is the fact that most people will bash a game to death without even trying it. I bet that a good majority of people who are attempting to ban this game haven't even tried it for themselves.

Ace-Geno
Ace-Geno

I GOT MY COPY AND I LIKE IT!, KINDA REMINDES ME OF MYSELF WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL. SO I COULD REALLY CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT THIS ANTI-GAMERS SAY AND THIS COMPUTERS RETAIL STORES WON'T SALE! IT'S OUT ! WE STILL GONNA GET IT! SO GET OVER IT! oh and p.s. ........JACK THOMPSON YOU NO LIFE BAS***D GO TO H**L!

rbenns2
rbenns2

Did they actually play it? From the reviews, it seems more of a tongue in cheek comedy than any sort of real simulation. And it's rated T.

Falnor
Falnor

Don't all these do-gooders realise that when they try to get a game banned it increases sales. I only bought manhunt because they tried to have it banned and I wouldn't have heard about Bully if it wasn't for all this fuss. I bet Rockstar secretly likes Hillary Clinton and all the others trying to ban their games because it helps them sell more games.

zerokoolkw
zerokoolkw

I am sort of on the fence when it comes to retailers selling GTA games to young kids but after researching "Bully", I think the reaction by certain retailers and that idiot Jack Thompson, is ridiculous. The fact that they are making a huge business decision based on pure hype is about as laughable as their "family values" response. Exactly what kinds of videogames appeal to these so called "values"? Last time I checked blasting aliens out of the galaxy, pimping your ride, or even blowing some guy up in a football title doesn't exactly conform to "family values". To me if you're really going to take a stand, these retailers need to get rid of all their video games, movies and anything else not produced by the Disney channel. This is simply a politically charged statement made based on hype.

nsoufiani
nsoufiani

I was in total and utter disbelief when I read this article. Shame on you currys. I never bought anything from your store in the first place and im not going to start now. They have games and movies that are far more violent and explicit yet they stock them. Just because theres a link between child and playground they refuse to stock it? news flash, this happens ALL THE TIME in playgrounds, theres nothing new! absolutly NOTHING new.

Shuzen
Shuzen

Very Very Boring game dont wanna get it

cjlee420
cjlee420

humorguy your A jackass.

MasterAsh42
MasterAsh42

Just when I thought time was up for any additional moral grandstanding about this game. . . Even funnier, reading around other sites, critics are finding the game's content not just unobjectionable, but a refreshing change of flavor from typical urban sandbox titles. Oh, and to the guy before me. . .funny, but true. I was all about the outdoors until I got my first NES at age 7. Of course, I'm no where near fat and lazy, but I'm certainly no eX-chomping, hard-boozing, predator of the night either.

GrimBee
GrimBee

Funny thing is, parents let their kids out til like 2am sculking round local parks on their mopeds and hanging round convenience stores on schoolnights... yet.. the main concern here is a game, which keep them indoors. If Rockstar made a baseball bat perfect for use in the dark.. Jack would have a good case on his hands. But if a youth is troubled enough to reinact these situations in games, the youth would be doing this stuff regardless being "made to" by a game. What Im saying is - Games keep kids fat, lazy and indoors. Kids play as soldiers for years in games, killing people, recieving and completing orders.. If jack said "stop games like FPS war games, because if a kid can play these kinds of games, he can go out and fight for our country instead of wasting his or her life away on a games console!" he would have a valid point.. because he says games make people "do" stuff. I mean, he thinks games are so influential, why not flip the situation around? Essentialy, games make you do things you otherwise dont want to do in real life, but would like to see it happen. Like watching a murder mystery, you dont WANT to murder someone, but its interesting to see how events unfold. Jack = fanboy (fanboy = person who is single minded and only cares about 1 thing without seeing any other point of view).

TheTuff
TheTuff

So PC World and Curry's aren't stocking it. No big loss for sales, and if anything, it's a little more publicity for the game.

damz
damz

I ddnt even know pcworld or curry's sold games..... i guess there just trying to get publicity then

SB992
SB992

Might as well ban school then. Bully feels just like High School.

Humorguy_basic
Humorguy_basic

It makes sense, and I am beginning to think Rockstar are still not confident enough to walk away from more and more violence, thinking if they did they would not get the publicity. Why do so many publishers, after a hit game just follow that in a bland way until they disappear? If Rockstar doesn't change, what next? A game where you're a terrorist trying to blow up famous buildings? Get Buckingham Palace, get a new more efficient explosive. Blow up the Whitehouse while the President is in residence and you win the game!? When I think back to the wide range of gaming genres publishers used to support simultaneously (Think Lucasarts with the Sam & Max graphic adventure AND the Battle of Britain flight simulator at about the same time!) I don't know why we have one publisher just relying on more and more violent games and nothing else.

morororo
morororo

Oh well, PC World and Curry are crap for games anyway, well crap for anything. I swear PC World is the worst shop around. Over priced and nothing is ever in stock!