Two GTs for PS3--one starting with no cars?

Source: A Famitsu interview with Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi that sprung up in the Beyond3D.com forums. What we heard: Microtransactions are a white-hot topic in the gaming biz. Publishers love them because it's an easy way to scoop up easy revenue. Gamers love them because they can...

Source: A Famitsu interview with Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi that sprung up in the Beyond3D.com forums.

What we heard: Microtransactions are a white-hot topic in the gaming biz. Publishers love them because it's an easy way to scoop up easy revenue. Gamers love them because they can pick and choose what they want to add to their game for a few bucks.

Well, that's the theory at least. Some of the more vocal gamers have expressed displeasure over the choices and prices of content, claiming that several items aren't worth what publishers are charging (horse armor ring a bell?). On the other side of things, some publishers are being forced to lower prices on online content after dismal sales. In short, the business of microtransactions is off to a cool start.

If a post on the message boards of Web site Beyond3D is true, gamers haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg. A forum member who goes by the nom de plume "one" posted his/her translation of an interview with Gran Turismo creator and Polyphony Digital president Kazunori Yamauchi that originally appeared in Japanese game magazine Famitsu.

The interview allegedly says that the Gran Turismo debut on the PlayStation 3 will come in two forms, one called Gran Turismo HD: Premium and one called Gran Turismo HD: Classic.

Premium will feature "the full graphics power of the PS3" and include 30 cars and two courses, with the option to buy more of each later. There will allegedly be one mode--a casual racing mode--that doesn't include the typical GT gameplay of winning races and acquiring cars and medals.

Classic will (racing fans brace yourself) come with no cars or courses and is basically the demo that was playable at the Electronic Entertainment Expo. According to the translation, 750 cars will be downloadable for 50 to 100 yen ($0.43 to $0.86) each, and 50 race tracks will be downloadable for 200 to 500 yen ($1.72 to $4.30) apiece. The translation also states that cars will be released on a monthly basis, with some being available in limited quantities. New modes and tuning kits may also be downloadable.

There was no mention of how much the games would cost or if they would be included as a pack-in with the PlayStation 3.

It's obvious that publishers are still a bit confused as to how microtransactions are going to sit with gamers. But if such a scenario comes to pass, Sony could have a full-fledged riot on its hands, if the scathing comments in the Beyond3D forums are any indication.

The official story: Sony had not responded to requests for comment as of press time.

Bogus or not bogus?: We're hoping bogus but abstaining until something more official emerges.

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Cloud737
Cloud737

I wonder where the devs got this stupid idea. I suggest they go ahead and implement it, if they want to have minimal sales.

tankbrain
tankbrain

this is just showing all of us, how greedy and desperate some developers are becoming. owned all of GT series but if this is so won't be owning it anymore, bring on forza 2

tankbrain
tankbrain

this is just showing all of us, how greedy and desperate some developers are becoming. owned all of GT series but if this is so won't be owning it anymore, bring on forza 2

misterpants09
misterpants09

this is the most ridiculous money making attempt ever, when it fails, they should just keep it like the old ones, where it takes ability and time to unlock the cars and tracks

legs1986
legs1986

If this is true... L O L

legs1986
legs1986

If this is true... L O L.

mpoulin
mpoulin

Is it time for a new rumor yet?

wonderboy_46
wonderboy_46

Sony seem to make a another huge mistake everyday lately. This is quite frankly the DUMBEST suggestion from any video game developer that I have ever heard in the 16 years I've been playing games.

HellraiserMC
HellraiserMC

It seems that GT HD will be a rip off. To bad I'll be busy playing Forza 2...

zeroauthority
zeroauthority

GT will come stocked with 700+ cars and 50+ tracks... some custom ones will be avail for download along with cars that are a little more exotic. You'll even be able to purchase special parts for cars like racing kits and special aero packages.... thats my theory at least.

thebuft
thebuft

$900 dollars for the full game, i cant wait i,m saving up already as soon as i pay off the mortgage for my ps3

stoned-stoner
stoned-stoner

It will be BS most likely you will be able to download new released cars NOT in the main game Oh well from what ive seen from TGS it doesnt look that great compared to forza 2,they where all just smashing into corners in typical gt fashion And the forza physics are far more realsitic and fun,especially for drifters

24dude13
24dude13

Who gets tired of gt not me

WarhawK-harris
WarhawK-harris

I think I will stick with unlocking content as I go through the game which is how all games are supposed to be. This idea has "high riot and boycott probability" written all over it. Not even hardcore gamers will stand for it.

_Sam_
_Sam_

This seems bogus

Bansheesdie
Bansheesdie

Attack of the Show on Sep. 21 commented on this same thing. So now everyone who watches AOTS (G4's most popular show by the way) now knows about this. Ain't it great?

Riverwolf007
Riverwolf007

I really dont want to believe this but i have been wondering how the ps3 online service is going to work as well as XBL and still be free but if there are alot of shenanagins going on like this i have my answer.

PowderGuy
PowderGuy

Trust me! $ony already think we a bankers~

SOLIDUS_SNAKE
SOLIDUS_SNAKE

thats bogus cause if you wanted to but all the tracks and cars it would cost over $600!!!

OmicronPersei8
OmicronPersei8

While the posting sounds somewhat bogus, the plausibility of microtransaction 'fleecing' by Sony is indeed a frightening prospect. While it may seem a bad consumer model, Sony seems arrogant enough to believe it'll fly...I'm a huge GT fan, but I have no intention of getting on the PS3 train early. I'm getting the Wii instead, and I'll wait out the market on the PS3 to see how things shake out.

Demandred24
Demandred24

this isn't bogus. Sonys tops people have even said from their own mouth. Imagine how great it would be to buy a game with one car on it, then be able to turn around and you the customer after shelling out 60 bucks get to go online and pay for what should have been included in the game in the first place.

anamnawshad
anamnawshad

I think it's bogus. If it's true then...............:?

kilaan
kilaan

I have been totally against micro transactions since I ever heard of the them (aka Oblivion) I am voting with my wallet and haven't bought one or will buy one ever. Unfortunetly their are enough idiots out there purchasing horse armor mods and 5 houses for a total of $30's that I am fearing this is going to be the wave of the future.

cpaschal
cpaschal

OK, microtransactions aren't all bad, but this would be crazy. Say they came out with GT with about 35 or 40 courses, and 500 cars...and the game was $60. Not bad, right on par I think. I wouldn't be opposed to buying and downloading another car for 85 cents or so, or even more tracks and a couple of bucks a pop. The game would be complete as sold, but if you wanted more content, and extend the life a little, you could IF YOU WANTED TO. But the way they are describing it, you would be forced to just spend $60 or $70 and only have 2 or 3 courses and a handful of cars. I just don't see Sony doing this, even if they have been making horrible business decisions lately. Id say Bogus, but knowing Sony...who knows.

Advanced1
Advanced1

wow first of all this game is already on ps2 second of all the hd doesnt seem to look that much better and 3 sony is so stupid for doing this they are done after this

-Ronin-_basic
-Ronin-_basic

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Customization is one thing, and that's nice.... but a "build-it-yourself" game where you have to pay for EVERYTHING you put in? That would be the epitome of greed and laziness on the developers' part.

ice_radon
ice_radon

What complete trash. Now "Bumper Cars 4: HD" is now charging for cars? You know that this game isnt going to sell at all. I mean I would really rather them work on a new full game that they can sell me for 50 bucks with all the cars and tracks instead of working on this crap.

twistedhades
twistedhades

WELL I HOPE IT COST ANYTHING JUST LIKE SONY ITS SAYING ABOUT HAVING A FREE CHARGE ONLINE ACESS TO HIS NEW BASE KIND OF XBOX LIVE WE PAY FOR GAMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE LIKE 60 $ EACH PLUS THE HARDWARE ITS ONLY $600 WELL MY OPINION I HOPE THIS WILL BE BOGUS...

blackace
blackace

I'll just wait for GT5. If that comes out with the same BS (purchase cars & tracks online), I'll skip the who series. Forza 2, Burnout 5 and NFS Carbon will be better anyways. I won't lose any sleep over this, that's for sure.

mrzero1982pt2
mrzero1982pt2

i could care less. sony destroyed my trust in them. so wii and 360, here i caome!!!can you wait to play a gta on the wii? using the controller to move and using the wiimote to aim and shoot???? take 2....you are genius......if nintendo buys you out........it will be a blessed day. im not gonna pay 70 bucks for a game and then have to spend almost 200 bucks more for cars and all the tracks. and god forbid if any new games require downloadable content........what will be deleted? the magic gate software hates when you try to copy to other hard drives!

lyrical_mc
lyrical_mc

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lyrical_mc
lyrical_mc

People stop being so complaicent, this is GT HD not GT5 it's a teaser, the only reason they have classic is so that you woudn't have a game with just thirty cars and a few tracks. If you want buy GT HD, play premium and you can always play GT$ on your PS3 aswel. GT5 is going to be amazing and the trailer shows a Ferrari so the licensing is sorted out. This is pretty much a GT5 prologue.

strife2k
strife2k

Im not playing gran turismo in the next gen ps3, what comes next Sony, an action game with no characters and stages, so you can buy them, including a $15 charge for the last boss??

LikwidX3
LikwidX3

this sucks, what ever happent to 1 version of a game on 1 version of a console, ohh well, i wouldnt get that crap anyway, after GT3 things just started goin downhill

Dolacide
Dolacide

If this is true, another miss step by Sony.

faizali86
faizali86

thats a stupid idea. i hated microtransactions anyway but this is going too far. i hope its bogus.

aldrenar47
aldrenar47

Wow, this is the worst idea ever.

FallenOneX
FallenOneX

I see this one as being bogus, for this game. The idea is sound enough for some company with deep pockets to try out though.

The_Weekend
The_Weekend

Omg, if it's real i'm really concern of how games will be like in the future ... buying items = pay with real money! Can you imagine this ?? Final Fantasy $$$ : Bring your bankbook

LordAndrew
LordAndrew

This is just a terrible idea. I hope its bogus.

LordAndrew
LordAndrew

Two versions, two versions, two versions.

Terran499
Terran499

Thats the dumbist thing I've evry heard. Whats the classic cost, 5 bucks? It better because if all cars cost 86 cent that totals out to 645.00, more that the PS3 itself! Even at 43 cent thats still 322.50!

Terran499
Terran499

Thats the worst thing I've every heard. Whats the classic supposed to cost, 5 bucks, because thats what it sounds like.

fiftyelisiocent
fiftyelisiocent

Hey guys.........i see everyone speaking about the fact that cars must be bought..........WHAT ABOUT THE TRACKS....... THAT WILL BE SOLD FOR ALMOST 5$ ???????? Some people may argue that in a game like GT where you get almot 800 cars..... since usual gamers only use a dozen to race, it can be smart to allow each one of us to chose the rides we want to race with and buy them on the internet. What about the tracks ???? Have the same people forgotten that the variety of race-tracks is AS IMPORTANT as the variety of cars ??????? Come-on guys ............ almost 5$ for a track ..................since there was about 50 race-tracks in GT4........ is anyone considering to spend more than 100$ ONLY ON TRACKS???? ( don t come with the **** that most riders only race their favorit tracks......... because thats a lie!!) Hey Miguel 16, you say that they will charge us ONLY 10 to 20$......................honestly, do you find it cheap ???????????? 10-20$ just for a game-engine ???????? In other words.... with 60$ (the overage price for a big PS2 title) you'll get a dozen of tracks and maybe a bit more than a dozen of cars !!! (compared to 50 tracks and more than 700 cars in GT4...FOR THE SAME PRICE !!) and if it wasn't enough....... you're not getting a new game........but the same old game...only with improved visuals !!! I m seariously starting to get tired of all this ****.......... first, with the lounch of the PS3 that has been delayed over and over again, then with the fact that Polyphony Digital is making fun of us......... instead of making a game................ they waste a year to make a demo to show us the "power" of the consol..........pfffff ( i'm sure that you wont see a diffrence between X360 and PS3 visuals...eventhough the PS3 seems to be more powerfull........at least "on the paper"), and now they come out with this ........... Honestly, i've had enough of it........... and at the end, i'm sure that the same thing that happend with GT4, will happen again.............ForzaMotorsport 2 will be better (at least it seems that graphics aren't there only concern.............)

ewjim
ewjim

Complete bogus...

Lucifer007
Lucifer007

if they had them 650 cars from gta4 them those cars be extra conetent them mabye but all the money on a single game yeah right