Twisted Metal panel reveals canceled ideas

David Jaffe talks Sweet Tooth, live-action cutscenes, and what might have been for the beloved car combat franchise.

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Who was there: Twisted Metal game directors David Jaffe and Scott Campbell, as well as Eat Sleep Play's creative director Kellan Hatch.

What they talked about: Jaffe shared some details about the characters and story in Twisted Metal. The four main characters are Sweet Tooth, Preacher, Dollface, and Mr. Grimm. They are all participating in the Twisted Metal competition, once again overseen by Calypso, who dangles the promise of a wish fulfilled for the victor. Though there won't be origin stories per se, players will find out information about each character's backstory, such as the creation of Sweet Tooth's mask, Dollface's vain psychotic break, Preacher's righteous crusade, and Mr. Grimm's childhood trauma. These story elements will be revealed with live-action cutscenes in the single-player campaign. A making-of video played during the panel showed convincingly costumed characters performing scenes against a green-screen backdrop. Jaffe explained how they originally wanted to get away from the notorious live-action scenes of the series' past, but they came back around to the idea when they reasoned that Blizzard and Infamous had cornered the market on CG and animated comic cutscenes, respectively. Jaffe said they were going to be heavily tweaking the footage in postproduction and referenced the opening credits from the Watchmen as a source of inspiration.

Jaffe then went on to discuss the Nuke multiplayer mode previously outlined in GameSpot's Twisted Metal Updated Impressions and confirmed that the game would feature two-player and four-player online split-screen play. He clarified that in gameplay footage, the second person leaning out the passenger side window is not another player but rather an AI companion. He also confirmed that downloadable content is in the works for the game but promised that he would "go down kicking and screaming" before he allowed it to manifest as a $5 costume pack.

Jaffe closed out the panel by talking about "what could have been"-- ideas for this iteration of Twisted Metal that never came to fruition. The first was Twisted Metal: Apocalypse, a game set after the destruction of civilization. One piece of concept art featured a bombed-out Mount Rushmore in the background, and others showed broken freeways and skeletal skyscrapers. The other was a version apparently inspired by games like Midnight Club, a slicker, more modern-looking take on the franchise. Sweet Tooth was reimagined as a svelte, bald gangster with a flaming tattoo on his head, and different factions included Yakuza and the police. As Jaffe put it, this would have been "like a Michael Mann version of Twisted Metal."

Quotes: "No." - David Jaffe when asked if Twisted Metal would support 3D visuals or the PlayStation Move.

"Dollface came out of… not my ex-wife. My ex-wife is a great lady…" - Jaffe describing the inspiration for the character of Dollface.

"I wanna do a million dollar hardcore Sweet Tooth slasher flick exclusive to PSN." - David Jaffe

The Takeaway: Twisted Metal is a franchise that Eat Sleep Play and fans alike have a lot of stock in, and the developer is working hard to make sure this version exceeds expectations.

Random Fact/Who Knew?: They were going to give away Sweet Tooth masks at the panel, but they hadn't successfully made it through toxicity tests.

Discussion

80 comments
calipso324
calipso324

ok i think i get 2 new fractions mr. grim and precher

issizots
issizots

there will be like 16 characters, like 4 or more from each faction, the only four main TM characters that we're used to seeing in the past are as already mentioned and I wish axl and all would have made it back and such but who knows maybe there will be secret characters of some sort. But for now it's Choose which "faction member" you'd like to play as, then you choose which vehicle you'd like to use that character in. I do agree though with you imaroustabout, They should have atleast kept all the chacters from past and maybe not made their stories as detailed but still include them, It does seem kind of generic to hear there's 4 factions inwhich inspired by long time TM characters as the leaders of the factions... I'd rather play as the drivers I know from the past TMs than play as some new faction brown nosers to sweettooth or dolllface or mr grim or preacher. I like the live action endings though, and i GUARENTEE you this game will WILL WILL be delayed atleast twice adn we probally won't see it until atleast next summer... I just don't see this game being finished by early next year... In all logics to the facts so far with production and development and what stage they're in(early!!)...

im-a-roustabout
im-a-roustabout

Dear god I love the game play but that was only ever fifty percent of my love for this game. The other half came from the characters and there stories. I used to just whittle the hours away beating the game with EVERY character just to watch what happened. Especially with Black. My all time favorite TM. I always wished they had made another game in the same vein as Black. IT was just so dark and freakin' sweet!

chaldoboy14
chaldoboy14

Well this is Jaffe, him saying no character stories except for those main four worries me. But looks who we're talking about here, is it possible that he screw us? In fact he's one of the VERY few creators that I have respect for, and I just can't see him ruining a good formula. Odds are everyone will be in the game, they just won't have their own back stories, will probably be available for multiplayer still. I mean they have to be, a game this deep can't just have 4 characters with a possible unlockable Calypso making it 5. I trust Jaffe, this game is going to be awesome in the end, despite the changes that are getting us a little worried.

Yajarobi
Yajarobi

I haven't played twisted metal since PS1. I almost want a PS3...almost, meh. not really.

Harerazer
Harerazer

Jaffe... no MOVE compatability + no 3D = YAY! No Warthog, Axel, older characters = BOO! But most importantly...please no Nazi zombie mode. LOL

gearbear94
gearbear94

can not wait for this game, hopefully as good as twisted metal black

athenian29
athenian29

I love the quotes and random fact. I lol'd so much! :lol:

TrinityChica14
TrinityChica14

This was so funny when they came out at the end of the press conference...looks badass

GunGriffin
GunGriffin

At this moment and time I have to say Twisted Metal was never my fav car combat title. It had glaring flaws people always fought to play as Sweet Tooth, and many other problems I could go on about. But after looking at this game, it looks like they took those lessons to heart this time around. The Factions Idea is perfect because it means not everybody will fight over a spacific car, or whine online about I want my turn as Sweet Tooth! Crap like that will be gone for good. I just hope it has an offline skermish mode ala UT3 and I would be happy as a clam!

SuprSaiyanRockr
SuprSaiyanRockr

Good to see they're taking this seriously. Nice work.

BigZman95
BigZman95

Considering, Twisted Metal: Black was the BEST Twisted Metal game, and is still one of my favorite games even though I now own a 360 and PS3, needless to say I'm extremely excited for this. What's better? Rumor is that it's set to be released two days before my birthday. Score! Oh, and inaka_rob, nice Stones reference.

inaka_rob
inaka_rob

been waiting for this game for YEARS!!!!! I see a red door and I wanted it painted BLACK!!!!!!

9schaef
9schaef

i hope its the best movie ever

kejigoto
kejigoto

That is pretty funny about the $5 costume pack bit. I've always hated how Capcom does that.... Also had to snicker at how there will be no 3D support or Move support.

NColdhardt
NColdhardt

Making a Sweet Tooth slasher would actually be a MUST SEE movie on my list.

satan112
satan112

Hope they include Axel, favorite character from back in the day. A game like this is all about gameplay and not graphics and as long as the developers keep this in mind I wouldn't have cared if it still looked like a PSX game but was just as much fun to play. Also local splitscreen please!! Nothing better than playing this sort of game with ya mates and a few beers.

chemicalbrother
chemicalbrother

@ Beesters - Even though I thought he was a real stupid character, I loved using him for driving by really fast out of nowhere and then "Axel Power!". Maybe they could make someone else with Axels powers, that'd be coo.

chemicalbrother
chemicalbrother

@ SolidTy - So basically all the good ones huh... yeah me too, sold!

HWGuy14
HWGuy14

I CANT WAIT FOR THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!! been playing since I was a kid on ps1

JayQproductions
JayQproductions

this game is gonna suck so bad, they completely ruined the franchise. Twisted Metal was always about the car combat now its all about the driver, you shouldnt be able to hang out of the window with a sniper rifle and the new game modes look like something that would be in a $20 twisted metal bargain bin rip-off.

redness19
redness19

Shame it's not on the 360. The Twisted Metal series is great and playing it on XBox Live would have been major fun.

slimcognito-05
slimcognito-05

Some other cars i hope make it to the game are Yellow Jacket, Hammerhead, Warthog, Darktooth, Mr. Slam, Crimson Fury, Spectre, Thumper, Shadow, and even though it was only in TM3 unfortunately, Club Kid.

Nerkle01
Nerkle01

Yeah and you cant forget Firestarter, Warthog, and Spectere.

SLRMC93
SLRMC93

I hope thumper, mr.slam, and axel make it into the game somehow.

marcoman1999
marcoman1999

@necorid yes it never beat ps1 and i think its the best game of twisted metel bty i still have the game for the ps1 :)

necorid
necorid

@fetusfart18 actually, TM2 was ported to PC but was not as good as the PS1 version

necorid
necorid

It's been too long. IT'S LOOKING SO GOOD. but i can't get hyped. must not be hyped.

fetusfart18
fetusfart18

and @Fandango_Letho. Are you serious? TM is one of the most popular franchises in the history of gaming........might want to come out from under that rock every once in awhile. Just because you and a few of your hipster friends don't like it doesn't mean nobody does.

fetusfart18
fetusfart18

@drago9876, what do you expect? TM is a Sony owned property....it's never been on anything but Sony platforms.

Quezakolt
Quezakolt

Please more than 4 characters/gangs if possible because having only 4 will really bring down the longevity of the game. thank you!

green_dominator
green_dominator

If they really wanted to reinvent Twisted Metal they should take all the characters from the first 3 games and pick out the coolest from those and bring it back to square one. If it were me I'd have arena battles, long highway stretches that test endurance, town battles and the ultimate ending in a sprawling city. Online would be all these areas connected to a kind of wasteland. I'd also allow vehicle customization and the ability to totally build your own unique vehicle from scratch.....

w1ng13131
w1ng13131

ive been a fan of twisted metal all my life i still play the classics but four chars?? wheres outlaw, thumper, spectre, shadow, manslaughter, warthog, mr. slam, roadkill, yellowjacket, and all the others?! juaffre better pick it up

drago9876
drago9876

Cool Mr Grimm is still in..... but what's not cool is that this game is only for PS3 =(

HughDawg03
HughDawg03

While I'm happy they tossed in Doll Face, Preacher, and Mr. Grimm, I'm still not sure how I feel about this whole "gangs" aspect. I wish they would do it like the old games and have about 10 or 12 individuals competing for Calypso's prize.

shadowhunter0
shadowhunter0

why is everyone hitting on areal combat if they do it right it would probably be awesome

CFritzRun
CFritzRun

@ Fandango_Letho Right, because people haven't been begging for a sequel since TM:Black. In fact, at no point in the last year has anyone yelled at Jaffe from a conference crowd asking for another Twisted Metal sequel. Clearly this game isn't popular in the least bit...

shadowhunter0
shadowhunter0

@ Fandango_Letho I don't know anyone that didn't like it everyone that I talk to loves the twisted metal franchise and most of them like me has been playing it since day one and own all the games and we still play them for time to time also if you look at your rating you can tell that people here likes it too

The_Breadcrab
The_Breadcrab

Interesting. I'm looking forward to the live-action cut-scenes.

jedkonyat
jedkonyat

i kinda liked the modern twisted metal idea....

wigwam2
wigwam2

i haven't played any of the other games but getting an ice cream truck to go on stage during the press conference just makes me need to play this game

karan2shoes
karan2shoes

I cant wait. Always loved the series.

Notebook_holder
Notebook_holder

Man this is definitely a day one buy for me. I loved all the older ones. The cut scenes should be interesting per se. I would love if there was a yellow jacket vehicle in this game because i loved to play him in black. And im glad they are staying away from the "5$ costume pack" because these guys are a small company they actually care what the public thinks. So i think we can expect a pretty solid game with some awesome DLC with fair pricing

Fandango_Letho
Fandango_Letho

I never enjoyed the Twisted Metal series. Never met anyone who did either, so i'm kind of surprised that this game series gets a reboot.

cowmaster2k3
cowmaster2k3

I played an 8 player multiplayer match for this latest Twisted Metal at E3 2010... Its going to be amazing, trust

kris9031998
kris9031998

I thought the title said "Twisted metal cancelled." i was screaming!

EliteGamer09
EliteGamer09

Twisted Metal Black was by far the best and most epic of the series. I would buy another PS2 just to play it again...