Trey Parker says "f**k that" to cutting content for DLC

South Park co-creator says he was not interested in offering trimmed-down content for The Stick of Truth as expansion packs.

South Parker co-creator Trey Parker has spoken out to say "f**k that" in response to releasing content trimmed from The Stick of Truth as downloadable content.

During a Comic-Con panel yesterday attended by Polygon, Parker said the script he and Matt Stone wrote for The Stick of Truth ballooned to 850 pages, which was too long to be realistic.

Parker explained that his team was urged to "cut it down, cut it down, cut it down," and instead use this extra content as DLC. This drew jeers from the crowd, Polygon reports.

"And I agree…f**k that," Parker said.

Though this extra content isn't likely to appear in The Stick of Truth, Parker said the material will see the light of day somehow, potentially through an episode of the show.

Parker and Stone also revealed during the panel that they were inspired by The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Earthbound, Paper Mario, and The Legend of Zelda when originally setting out to make The Stick of Truth.

The Stick of Truth launches later this year for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC. For more, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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nyran125tk
nyran125tk

Come on, surely you people have figured this out by now. You don't buy a single game these days until an ultimate edition or GOTY edition or a Complete edition gets released. So yeah you don't get to play it for 6 months or sometimes its only 3 months away, but when you do. You get ALL the DLC and the base game for 75% off of the original release price. I know you have all sussed that out. The art of being happy with what you have and being patient, is a skill, but a profitable one. I never bought SKYRIM on release day, but now the legendary edition is out, I bought it for 75% off of the original base game price. More content, more savings, happier person :)

Pyromk1
Pyromk1

...Or do a CD Projekt Red and release it as free DLC

Ravenlore_basic
Ravenlore_basic

... Just make 2 games. OR better than leaving it out 1 large DLC would be fine. 

Though I do not buy a lot of DLC If it is worth it then I will get it. 

poopinpat
poopinpat

Published by Ubi...  Man I want this game, but as a PC gamer buying from Ubi is a bad idea.  Will be waiting for user feedback.

supermarioooooo
supermarioooooo

thats why these guys are southpark. fuck the system. ive never payed dlc shit in any game.

and im not gonna...

JimmyJumpy
JimmyJumpy

Four minutes fifty of content in a ten minute clip... that's a novelty...

nait2k4
nait2k4

Anal probe? Not coming out in Australia I guess.

granola_goodnes
granola_goodnes

I love these guys!  But I wouldn't have minded an expansion pack.  Exactly one expansion pack with everything else that was cut.

dummpymonkey123
dummpymonkey123

Whats happening is developers have figured out they can release 60-80% of a game at $60 and charge 5-15$ for 1-4 dlc's a piece rather than giving you 100% of a game and then making extra content that is completely optional like Dishonored,Smash bros, or Bioshock infinite, but games like injustice,Skyrim,Call of duty, or just about any racing game secretly rape your pockets all the while you think your getting a good deal so kudos to the developers doing it right (although I never really liked South Park) 

HallowBastion
HallowBastion

Well, in the case...I appreciate Trey Parker saying f*ck that to DLC. We should get the whole game, not have content withheld for paid DLC. 

roman4545
roman4545

ha... Ubisoft probably gonna paid them extras for DLC... since Ubisoft is greedy and wants every game have DLC...  only time will tell.

OGKNav
OGKNav

They say "f*ck that" to everything. What makes this any different?

twyz
twyz

I would rather it be DLC than not come out at all. How is this good?

dantesergei
dantesergei

Trey Parker and Matt Stone, f*** i like those guys.

Keep the good work.

gmromero
gmromero

I don't see what's wrong with having an epic long game. There are plenty of examples of games out there that probably also had 850+ page scripts, and were actually really awesome. Why trim anything? I mean, you should edit out some of the stuff that just wasn't good, but if you have an 850 page script and it is awesome, then go for it. Sure, maybe 1 or 2 people will cry about it being too long, but those people are always stupid d-bags who don't have an attention span that would cover one minute of tetris. 

rigzzsy
rigzzsy

good to see this game still lives

TVsportsCOD
TVsportsCOD

So the extra content won't be in the game at all, thanks Trey that's so much better! You are my god now! *sarcasm* This is a victory for consumers how?

Fine, in a South Park game you just make another episode for TV, but any normal game would just get the ideas put aside for another project or scrapped. No one forces us to buy extra content - why shouldn't DLC be there for those who want it?

LalchandTudu
LalchandTudu

That is one fu**ing truth.
Every gaming industry should follow.
This is what all the gamers need.
All you DLC stricken developers, learn something for Tery Parker and you will see some good results.

jerichoswall
jerichoswall

Trey Parker doesn't give two sh!ts about what the game devs want. He wants to create quality entertainment for his audience. Trey Parker is one awesome dude.

gamefreak197
gamefreak197

Trey Parker gets even more respect from me. I will thank him with a day 1 purchase of the game.

TheGreatPhoenix
TheGreatPhoenix

Do you have cut content, turn it into an tv episode, why? southpark's why

Psycold
Psycold

Trey for president of the world.

TheEveryMan
TheEveryMan

Ooohh, Trey Parker loves to give gamers what they want. Keeping it real are you Trey? Let's see how long that streak lasts...

CamoBullo
CamoBullo

You gotta love Trey Parker. If some of it is cut and turned into an episode, possibly as a tie-in with the game, it'd be great.

Bluemeanie77
Bluemeanie77

so a complete game is being released?? 

Thetmango
Thetmango

So is this saying that instead of cutting out some of the content and releasing it as dlc, it is simply being cut and not released at all, maybe just in a tv episode later?

ZOD777
ZOD777

This is the kind of article that only proves that DLC is in fact often intentionally cut from games to be sold at a later date.  I get tired of hearing, "No, they work on DLC right after the game is finished, and they didn't have time to put it on the disc", or whatever other excuse people think they deserve.  People defend their favorite games to a fault.  Finally an article that shows the truth behind the scenes for once.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

@poopinpat It's not their fault.  THQ was the publisher until the bankruptcy, and Ubisoft bought the publishing rights in the auction.  Ubisoft wasn't the publisher during the game's development, so don't worry about that.

OldKye
OldKye

@nait2k4 Let's be realistic the number of things they would have to cut for Australia they would need all 850 pages to make a game half as long lol.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

@granola_goodnes Uh....stuff randomly pulled from the middle of the game is a bad idea for an expansion pack.

granola_goodnes
granola_goodnes

assuming of course it is worth an expansion pack.  If all they did was trim some not so funny ideas out then forget that mess.  

Hurvl
Hurvl

@OGKNav Because some people applaud this attitude of not cutting content to hand out later as DLC? Everything they say "f*ck that" might not be good, but this time it seems like it's good.

Kickable
Kickable

@twyz they don't want to perpetuate what a lot of gamers think is shitty business tactics I guess.

outlawoftorn
outlawoftorn

@twyz no it means that they wont hold back content only to release it later as a paid dlc. a lot of companies release part of the content later to make money throughout the game's life cycle.

Juon408
Juon408

@gmromero That's most likely what they did, trim the stuff that wasn't good or trimmed stuff for pacing reasons. I love South Park, but not everything they write is gold. The game will probably be long still since they are taking a lot of inspiration from Zelda, EarthBound, and Elder Scrolls. I just hope the final boss battle uses the "Let's Fighting Love" song. lol

00black
00black

@TVsportsCOD This is a victory for consumers because we're actually getting what we pay for. If Trey Parker would've cut a portion of the script to later sell it as dlc, we'd be receiving less for the msrp. Think about the length of previous generation titles, before dlc. Developers found a balance between quality and quantity. At least with this game we'll know it's all in there, as opposed to a Street fighter dlc type situation.

WhiteStormy
WhiteStormy

@TVsportsCOD Are you high?  Of course this is a victory for consumers.  Ubisoft told them to leave out content so that it could be sold later as DLC, and Stone and Parker said "Fuck that!"  Then they said that whatever is trimmed out of the game would be made available for FREE as part of the show, and not SOLD by greedy Ubisoft.

If they wrote a couple extra funny pieces of dialog or a funny scenario, I would rather it see the light of day as part of the show instead of a piece of over-priced DLC.

Juon408
Juon408

@TheEveryMan Judging by how much they fight with Comedy Central over every episode. I'd say that streak will last a while.

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

@Bluemeanie77 Yes.  That is what he is saying.  THE complete game is being released.

aovannor
aovannor

@Bluemeanie77 Sort of.. they don't plan to offer DLC... but a ton of the script they wrote for the game isn't going to ever be in the game..

Can't decide if this is a good thing or not. No DLC is good... but less content is bad. Brain can't compute.

If it means never ever getting planned content, as much as I hate DLC, I think I'd rather have the extra stuff for the games I really love than have nothing at all.

aovannor
aovannor

@ZOD777 That's not what the article says at all. It says that because we aren't getting DLC we'll never see that content in game form.. not that they planned to cut anything from the initial release. The original release would have been the same either way.

Your argument is about getting less game. This article clearly says there will be less game because there is no DLC.. not because there is.

twyz
twyz

@outlawoftorn @twyz It clearly says "this extra content isn't likely to appear in The Stick of Truth".

Juon408
Juon408

@WhiteStormy @TVsportsCOD Exactly! Ubisoft really has no say over this game because it's NOT their IP. It's Matt and Trey's. That's the sole reason they did the game to begin with because they have complete control over it instead of letting someone else ruin it.

ZOD777
ZOD777

@aovannor You are missing the point.  Content is withheld on purpose, and Trey is admitting that pressure was put on him to cut content.  And not out completely to shorten the story, but to set it aside and sell it as DLC.  Whether or not that content ever sees the light of day is not my point.  My point is more of an "I told you so" to all those naysayers that insist that DLC is not a shady practice...EVER.

maitkarro
maitkarro

@00black @maitkarro I have no idea, I think I had been to long awake.

Psycold
Psycold

@ZOD777 This is why I don't buy Gearbox games anymore.