THQ locks down WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2011 online mode

Publisher bundles single-use online admission code and DLC with new copies of fighting game; used-game purchasers must pay $10 for access.

Earlier this summer THQ announced it would charge secondhand users $10 for access to online play in UFC 2010 Undisputed. However, the Red Faction publisher isn't stopping there and today announced that new purchases of WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2011 will come with online access and free day-one DLC.

THQ is hoping to lay the smack down on used-game sales.

Those who pick up a new copy of the game this October will find a onetime use code that can be redeemed for "online access and the game's first DLC package." Additionally, new purchasers will earn Chris Masters as a playable character and Halloween-style costumes for Rey Mysterio and Kelly Kelly.

However, those who buy used copies of the game without the onetime use code will need to purchase access for the DLC and online play. THQ says that these users should expect to pay $10 (800 Microsoft points) for the features.

THQ isn't the only publisher of late to incentivize new-game purchases. Electronic Arts has already encouraged new purchases of sports games Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11 and Madden NFL 11 by bundling single-use online multiplayer access codes with new copies. Additionally, new purchases of Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and Mass Effect 2 came bundled with a code to download content that gamers with pre-owned games have to pay for.

WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2011 is due out for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 2, PSP, and Nintendo Wii and is expected to ship on October 26. For more on the game, check out GameSpot's most recent preview.

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71 comments
mattyphil
mattyphil

THQ have got a cheek to charge for online access to UFC or Smackdown as online is crippled with lag with both games . Ill never buy any of the UFC games again ill wait for a second hand copy of WWE 2011 as my son enjoys playing it offline .

555fabulous21
555fabulous21

They"re only doing that to get more money. who wants masters anyway and the online play is terrible as well.

JKMadu619
JKMadu619

That's lame. I don't have online anyway, so who gives a you-know-what.

earlmccormick88
earlmccormick88

SVR 2010 lagged horribly. I have never completed an online match due to the permanent and unavoidable lag. It's sad to see the way these gaming companies are going. Look at Microsoft, you CANNOT play the full version of your DLC unless you're online, which means gamers who don't play online will have wasted their money. My friend doesn't have internet and cannot play NBA2k10 draft combine, which he bought at my house. EA is the greediest company ever. They were charging real currency to buy power ups from the Madden 10 shop. They already disappointed me with Madden 09, 10 and 11.

robayeit
robayeit

I dont play on the THQ servers anyway simply because ur servers are so bad, wen i push my controller to start the match the other guy finished his match and tis all over. Get your lag sorted first, ur getting as bad a activision

woonsa
woonsa

Even though I don't buy used games, I'd have to say this is full of BS just like ea and thq.

S_Pac_316
S_Pac_316

Well, it's BS how both EA and THQ are doing this...

killer690
killer690

- This game sucks anyway, I wouldn't buy it if it was the last game on earth -

Adam48239
Adam48239

I just rented Madden 11. If you don't use the code, they give you a 7-day free trial for online access, which is fine because that should cover the rental period. And I've already got a TON of achievement points in just two days, which was really why I picked up the game in the first place! I think SvR should also do this for people who rent first or buy used. However, this is clearly an incentive for die-hard fans of online play and people who love unwrapping a new disc that has not been ran through a Scratch Doctor. To everyone else, rent the game first. If offline play is awesome, then buy it new and get the extra content that is INCLUDED with retail price. It's not like they're charging you $74.99 like a Nintendo 64 game!

porky1985
porky1985

love it mines all ready paid for roll on september wooop woooop

cynicalundead
cynicalundead

If this means that there will be less buttholes playing games online, I'm all for it!! :)

COPMAN221
COPMAN221

The online on these wrestling games are so broken who cares!!! You wan't me to buy another wrestling game then give me a new "NO MERCY" game or just give up on wrestling games and give someone else a chance to make something, anything other than the crap you keep giving us. You had a great idea with Legends of Wrestlemania and ruined it with crappy controls. WTF were you guys thinking? Thank you..This message has been endorsed by the COPMAN221

chikahiro94
chikahiro94

@Arab-man666 No. You pay $60 new, you're fine. You get everything. If you pay $55 (or $50 with an Edge card) to buy used? Then they hit you with a $10 fee for online. They're rewarding the people who buy new and penalizing folks who buy used.

chikahiro94
chikahiro94

@prostreet678 No. It'll come with the game. @jl0pez If you buy new, you get everything. If you buy used and want online, you pay more. If you buy used but don't care about online, then you make out fine. @ leeko_link Its not "unfinished" for the original buyer. If you buy used? Then they hit you. As the article says, only USED buyers have to pay the $10. If you bought this new you get everything. @KlepticGrooves Pretty much. If you look at Gamestop and what they're doing, its almost stupid to buy new games (regardless of the price being $60 or being $20) - without this sort of thing its almost ALWAYS BETTER to buy used. Their used games are cheaper, have better return policies, etc. Lets be honest - game companies make their money from NEW game sales. How long did Gamestop expect to keep pushing used game sales at the expense of new game sales and not have something like this happen? When I worked they they said, "Sell used. Encourage people to buy used." If someone buys new, remind them they can trade it back when they're done (for less than half of what they paid), and the store can resell it for $5 less than new (massive profits). Honestly, a gamer is better off finding someone to buy a game from them - they'll get more money than Gamestop would offer! Also, I personally wonder if this also addresses pirated copies of games... Pirated games won't come with any codes for original buyer DLC and online rights, after all. How many 360's have been banned over the years due to being modded to run pirated games? I can sympathize with folks buying used not liking this. But the pirates deserve to get shafted (and shafted repeatedly).

KlepticGrooves
KlepticGrooves

I suppose they have to fight the used market in some way. It was inevitable.

EmeraldZDC
EmeraldZDC

well if u buy the game new then u get a code 2 use for online

FergusonGames
FergusonGames

I forgot to ask: Is the 800MSP (I'm a 360 gamer) annual cost or one-time?

FergusonGames
FergusonGames

That's just stupid! SvR2010 online was bad enough with a lot of lag, but NOW you have to PAY for the lag and frustration?! Oh well, guess it isn't THAT bad because I don't really go online on SvR anyways.

prostreet678
prostreet678

If you preorder it do you get the code? Somebody please message me telling me this.

leeko_link
leeko_link

Damn first it was DLC and now they are charging you ten bucks just to access and play online. I hate it when company makes unfinished games like this. Anyways I prefer playing my old N64 copy of WWF No Mercy! over of this $70 crap of a wrestling game anyday.

Arab-man666
Arab-man666

The Hell with THQ. They keep giving us the same exactly game year in and year out! And now, they want us to pay an extra 10 bucks on top of the 60 bucks we already paid? Here's an idea. You wanna play SVR2011 online? Pop in SVR2010- you won't be able to tell the difference.

atopp399
atopp399

Online games only work if there are a lot of people to play with. This will drastically cut down that number.

JESSEAARON100
JESSEAARON100

WTF THQ! 1st your SVR servers lags and now you having us to buy for the online??!! SHOOT!

jl0pez
jl0pez

This is one game that if you buy new you're getting ripped off. Used sounds tempting because I won't have to deal with online and get spammed left and right. Charging 10 bucks? UFC was 5. This is not going to help sales, especially when the last few years they've been getting worse.

jonzilla_basic
jonzilla_basic

Thank you gaming company's for bending us over and shoving right up our......New games here in Canada are 69.99 Plus taxes. Where I live it 14% taxes on top of that. So a brand new game is 79.79 here. That's almost a days wages or a weeks worth of groceries. Just rediculous.

chikahiro94
chikahiro94

@ spiderJ1122 Part of the issue is that Gamestop isn't lowering their prices in response. There've been people who have bought games with original buyer DLC used, but Gamestop did not lower the price or tell them that, "Hey, xyz costs extra." There's one guy trying to sue the used game shop as a result! Under this program, its actually possible for a used buyer to pay more than new!

RatchetV1
RatchetV1

well all i can say is the online better kickass if its 10 dollars for pre-owned buyers.

spiderJ1122
spiderJ1122

why is everyone upset that companies are striking back at gamestops profits on used games and gamefly and blockbuster renters. None of which share there profits with game companies. I only buy new games except for a select few. All is not bad though. I had a friend buy a used UFC 10 at blockbuster and they gave him the code for online free through some website they have. Does any know if gamefly does this.

chikahiro94
chikahiro94

@mrzero1982pt2 I understand that but, to the NFL, it lessened the "premium" status of their brand/license. Its just like Apple could sell a lot more iThings and Macs if they lowered their prices, but they're not going to. They're happy with their current sales, profit per unit (among the best in the industry - they start at 20% profit per item!), and keeping the "premium" mentality associated with their product (now, whether you buy into that or not is something else). Same with the NFL. Great point. Its just that they don't want to make a little profit per item. They'd rather make a lot of profit per item. And given how sports games sell (and how little competition there is), they can get away with it :(

videogameking25
videogameking25

That's what makes games bad. The creators add more costs than fun sometimes. Now i'm a SvR fan and i've played every one since Shut Your Mouth. But there are better games coming out like Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 2. So i'm more focused on that than SvR 2011

MOUGATUU
MOUGATUU

I find this annoying. When you by a used car that has warranty on it it follows the car not the owner. I find this petty on the parts of companies.

Extreme124
Extreme124

really the online is sh1t. It lags 90% of the time and can't have more than 4 people and the game gets old 2hrs into it...come on you have to be a PG clown to actually pay to play a THQ or WWE game online.

Flint247
Flint247

I think they should just focus more on the game content than adding additional charges to play online. I hope this trend doesn't continue any further.

Kungfu_Kenobi
Kungfu_Kenobi

Much of my collection is used, and even I find this measure reasonable. The secondary market has been good to me as a consumer, but the fact that my dollars are not supporting the developer (except to the degree that my used copy was at some point a new copy) is something that's always bothered me.

flameducky
flameducky

after reading the preview for this game at IGN i was super excited...now not so much

NoDzombie
NoDzombie

they introduce the online charge, then UFC 2010 sold badly, i wonder why, yet they are continuing with it, madness.....

no_cultureicons
no_cultureicons

@Philly1UPer they may be alienating the used-copy purchasing fanbase, but as far as THQ are concerned, those people may as well not be playing the game. They're only going to be interested in the people who are making them a profit. I've said this before but I think it's a good idea. It's not unreasonable for companies to want to make money on the sale of their product. People are just used to getting free online gaming (and every other form of entertainment), if you always had to pay for it people would think this was a great offer. Perhaps they should be wording it 'online play costs $10 but if you buy the game new, you get it free'.

InSoMnIaK604
InSoMnIaK604

hahahahahahahahahahahahah, This makes me wana get Xlink Kai, ditch live, throw in a mod chip and pirate everything I want.

triple_b2k
triple_b2k

just buy 2010. it's the same game.

duke-nukem11
duke-nukem11

its just a cheap shot at the preowned market

Flint247
Flint247

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Yomigaeru
Yomigaeru

I think it'd make more since to say that instead of incentivizing those that buy new, those that buy used are simply getting a gimped product. But I get what you guys are saying. I don't like the policy, so I don't buys these games. Simple as that. No muss, no fuss. Besides, I never play online anyway since my connection is unreliable.

COPMAN221
COPMAN221

The problem with this "code trend" is that if you have more then one system (I have one and my son has his) in your household you can only playonline on one of them. This is not good for any gamer!

Flex1
Flex1

If I do buy this game it will be used since I wont play it online. And yeah like shoe1985 said: If you don't like something don't see it, touch it, smell it, buy it, don't do anything revolving around it.

Richardthe3rd
Richardthe3rd

Used games don't hurt sales as much as consistently releasing rehashed *$ does.