This Week in Games: August 11, 2012

More on the next generation consoles, BioShock Infinite's woes, whether the BioWare founders are leaving the company, and what's happening with The Last Guardian. Plus, Sony's Jack Tretton thinks the Vita somehow still stands a chance and that free-to-play doesn't work.

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It's the week that Sound Shapes finally came out, and the week before we're allowed to officially tell you that Darksiders II is pretty good. Embargoes, huh? What a pain in the ass. There was lots of intriguing news this week, so let's starting digging into that right away…

July Kinda Sucked

The gaming industry's summer lull was more pronounced than usual this year, as the NPD Group reported this week that total US retail game sales for July only reached $548.4 million, a spectacular 20 percent slide from the same month last year. Making the decline worse is the fact that July 2011 was already the single worst month for the industry since October 2006. Electronic Arts' annualized amateur pigskin sim NCAA Football 13 was the best seller for the month, and was the only new release to make the top 10. Super hero games performed well, with LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes the number two game for the month, and movie tie-in The Amazing Spider-Man finishing the month in third place. With one exception, the remaining games on the top 10 were all released in 2011. That exception was Call of Duty: Black Ops, which was released in 2010, and no doubt piquing interest again in light of the steady drop of new details ahead of the game's launch. It's unlikely you missed it, but in case you did, there was a new multiplayer trailer this past week. Want to see it? Even if you're a hater? Here it is…

Game hardware sales were pretty soft as well, down 32 percent to $150.7 million. While there wasn't much to crow about, Microsoft did announce that the Xbox 360 was the best-selling current-generation console for the 19th straight month, selling 203,000 units in July. Accessories were the lone area of improvement for the industry, up 8 percent to $136.9 million. According to NPD analyst Anita Frazier, that number was bolstered by points and subscription cards, as well as Skylanders action figure packs (Activision finally released the exclusive figures from the pack-ins as standalone figures this summer). The NPD Group believes more than 25 million Skylanders figures have been purchased by customers since the game launched last October. Frazier also cautioned anyone against expecting a miracle recovery for the industry in the back half of the year. "Based on year to date sales, and taking into account the release slate for the back five months of the year as well as the anticipated launch of the Wii U, annual sales for the new physical channel should come in around $14.5 billion for the year," Frazier said. That would represent a drop of nearly 15 percent from the NPD Group's 2011 US retail sales total of $17.02 billion.

After all that doom and gloom - we need something to look forward to, right?

New Consoles Need to Come Soon. Really Soon

A "new version" of the Xbox will be on store shelves sometime during the next 18 months, according to a new job advertisement at Microsoft. "Over the next eighteen months, Microsoft will release new versions of all of our most significant products including Windows (Client, Server, Phone and Azure), Office, and Xbox, along with completely new offerings like Microsoft Surface," reads a line from the requisition. Just to be clear on what they were talking about (another, cheaper 360 - or the next-gen box?), we reached out to Microsoft for comment, and a representative responded in predictable fashion. "Microsoft is always looking for talented people to innovate now and in the future," we were told. "We don't have any further comment on this or any other job posting." Of course they don't. They never do. But we have to ask.

"At this stage, we can't comment on or even speculate as to when, or if, the next generation will be announced. But we think that it's time for the next generation and we think that it's overdue already." - Cevat Yerli, Crytek

Earlier this week, Microsoft shot down speculation that it had already accidentally confirmed a new Xbox, saying comments from Microsoft general manager Brian Hall were "misunderstood." In an interview last week with The Verge, Hall name-dropped a "new Xbox," but Microsoft said he was actually speaking about this fall's new Xbox Live update. Of course he was.

The analyst consensus is that the next Xbox, as well as the PlayStation 4, will be on store shelves for holiday 2013. A recent 56-page document supposedly originating from Microsoft said the next Xbox would launch in 2013 at $299 bundled with the second iteration of the Kinect, among other updates.

This shift can't come soon enough for many. According to Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli, the next-generation consoles are "overdue already." In an interview with VG247 Yerli said, "The current generations are drying out, and the longer we wait for the next generation of consoles, the higher the likelihood that they could fall behind tablets in terms of being the first thing people reach for when the time comes to play games," Yerli said. "Tablets are putting pressure on the gaming industry, and taking over in some ways, so that should be kept in mind." Asked about the possibility of Microsoft announcing its new Xbox at the 2013 Electronic Entertainment Expo, Yerli explained that it's already the right time for new platforms. "At this stage, we can't comment on or even speculate as to when, or if, the next generation will be announced. But we think that it's time for the next generation and we think that it's overdue already," he said.

While Yerli pines for the next generation, outspoken Tekken producer Katsuhiro Harada sounded off on what the industry could look like if Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo were to join forces. Speaking to Australian news outlet News.com.au, Harada said he believes the potential for industry innovation would be "endless" if the Big Three were to someday build hardware together. "I think it would be interesting if Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo got together just to make one console," Harada said. "It makes me very happy to think about all the possibilities that could occur because of that." Elsewhere in the interview, Harada said Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony are no longer able to control gamers' play habits due in part to the rise of mobile and browser-based gaming. "For a long time, the game industry has been able to control the way people play games," he said. "There was a platform that people used solely for their gaming needs, and the industry had control of the trends and such that occurred. [But now] people are able to not be tied down by consoles, and it doesn't stop with phones; we have browser gaming and all these different platforms."

What do you think? Is the next generation overdue? Or is the whole concept past its sell-by date? Are you ready for a completely new way of playing games? Or do you agree with GameSpot news intern Connor Sheridan's piece this week that new consoles are not needed for new ideas? Let us know in the comments.

You're Being Irrational

Making a game is hard. Making a game as ambitious as BioShock Infinite is even harder, as evidenced by some of the drama at Irrational Games this week. Director of product development Tim Gerritsen along with 13-year studio veteran and former art director Nate Wells have both left the company, according to updated LinkedIn profile pages reported on by Gamasutra. According to Gerritsen's LinkedIn page, he left the Boston area studio this month. Gerritsen was part of the senior management team at Irrational, overseeing product development--which means it was his job to crack the whip and make sure that Ken Levine and the team were delivering stuff on schedule. As for Wells, his LinkedIn page also confirms his departure from the studio this month. He also reportedly updated his Twitter profile to say "New Job…Details to follow," although it no longer includes that note.

Soon after this news broke, Irrational creative director Ken Levine revealed on Twitter that original BioShock art director Scott Sinclair will fill Wells' role.

The surprising follow-up news to this was the fact that Epic Games' Rod Fergusson would be moving to Boston to take up the role of executive vice president of development at Irrational, and be the guy responsible for getting the game to ship on time. Epic president Mark Rein confirmed his departure from the studio in order to work on BioShock Infinite, calling it an emotional farewell. Fergusson began work on BioShock Infinite almost immediately, tweeting about his new job on Friday.

Senior members of BioShock Infinite's creative staff may not be the only things to do with the game that are being shaken up, if anonymous sources who spoke to Kotaku are correct. The sources claimed two multiplayer modes have been cut from development, but this has not yet been confirmed by Levine or anyone else at Irrational. While the two online modes in question, a tower-defense-like mode and a campaign-inspired cooperative mode, may not be under development, it is not known if these constituted the whole of BioShock Infinite's multiplayer.

BioWare Exits?

Sticking with people-related news from this week, German site GamersGlobal reported on rumors that Doctors Zeschuk and Muzyka had jumped ship after the disappointing launch of BioWare's massively multiplayer online role-playing game Star Wars: The Old Republic. The site noted that Zeschuk's LinkedIn profile had been updated to say he ended his stint as general manager of BioWare Austin in May of this year. (It still lists him as presently employed in the position of BioWare co-founder.) In addition, GamersGlobal attributes a "trusted source" at BioWare Austin with information that neither Zeschuk nor Muzyka was present at a company-wide meeting last week, and that Zeschuk actually hadn't been seen at the studio for weeks. An EA representative denied the rumors to GameSpot, saying, "When Greg Zeschuk announced the reorganization of BioWare Austin in May, he outlined his plan to return to his family in Edmonton for a much deserved vacation. Greg also announced the new GM of BioWare Austin and SWTOR, Matt Bromberg. Greg is still with EA. He's now back in Canada, taking time off and thinking about new projects. No changes with Dr. Ray."

DayZ to Stand Alone (Against Zombies)

In what seems like an inevitable move, popular zombie survival mod DayZ is becoming its own game, creator Dean Hall announced this week on the game's blog. Moreover, ArmA II developer Bohemia Interactive will actually be partnering with Hall to create the game. Hall will serve as the project lead on this more ambitious take on DayZ. "This is the fairy-tale outcome for a mod that many would have said impossible four months ago,” said Hall. Development on the mod will continue, as well. Hall said the big questions about how this splintering will impact each project will be answered in the coming weeks.

Ouya: Asked for $950k, Got $8.6 Million

The Kickstarter campaign for Ouya, a new Android-powered home console that we've covered extensively in previous weeks, has finally come to a close with a spectacular grand total of $8,596,475. Clearly significantly more than its original $950,000 goal. A total of 63,416 users have donated to the project, which promises to have consoles out "by March 2013." On Thursday, Ouya creators announced that the console would support four controllers and that Namco Bandai would support the system. The publisher said it is currently in "active discussions" to bring some of its properties to Ouya, though none were named. Given that the firm already publishes PAC-CHOMP! (yes, all-caps just like a Linkin Park song name) Sky Gamblers: Rise Of Glory, and Flight Control for Android, it seems safe to assume that they'll probably start there. In addition to Namco Bandai, Ouya creators have partnered with streaming giant OnLive, and Square Enix, which will have Final Fantasy III available (in "HD") for the console at launch.

Sony: Defiant To The End?

Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton is apparently in complete denial about free-to-play gaming. Tretton spoke to GamesIndustry International this week about why he thinks many companies overestimate the trend toward free-to-play models and social connectivity, and also went on to explain why he thought the PlayStation Vita's meagre sales have been "acceptable" so far. "[Free-to-play and social] is a business I think a lot of companies are learning is difficult to sustain for the long term," Tretton said. "It's an adjunct or it's an add-on, but it's not where gaming is headed. It's an additive diversion. There's a place for social and freemium, but it's not going to replace the business models that are out there."

League of Legends says "hi," Jack.

Despite worries that smartphones and tablets could soon replace dedicated gaming hardware, Tretton was defiant, saying "the opportunity to be in the console business is greater than ever before." Selling hardware is always a long game, one which Tretton said he is confident will pay off for the Vita. "We felt if the tech was there, and the game support was there, then the audience would be there … I feel much better about it now than I did four months ago." Sony expects the Vita to sell 10 million units in its current fiscal year, mostly owing to a holiday lineup boasting titles like Assassin's Creed III: Liberation and Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified.

"[Free-to-play and social] is a business I think a lot of companies are learning is difficult to sustain for the long term. It's an adjunct or it's an add-on, but it's not where gaming is headed. It's an additive diversion." - Jack Tretton, SCEA

The problem, of course, is that outside of those two games, what else is there? There's a desire from Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford to see Borderlands 2 on Vita but no commitment to such an initiative. In an interview with PlayStation: The Official Magazine, Sony Computer Entertainment worldwide studio president Shuhei Yoshida is less optimistic than Tretton, "We're having a more difficult time than we had anticipated in terms of getting support from third-party publishers, but that's our job." Yoshida then went on to say that the publisher will continue to try to recruit third-party developers, and pointed to Assassin's Creed III: Liberation as a game that "could entice" other developers to see the benefit of working with the Vita. "We will continue to talk to development communities and publishing partners, and tell them why Vita can provide a great experience for the IPs they have, and I hope the Assassin's Creed game will prove that," Yoshida told the magazine.

What do you think? Is it too late for Vita? What does Sony need to do to make it a winner? Drop the price? Include a big, fat memory stick? Announce more games? Let us know in the comments.

Finally, we learned this week that Sony has abandoned its trademark for The Last Guardian, a game that we game journalists tend to go on an on about far more than we probably should, more than three years after it first applied for the rights to the name. The company let go of the trademark on August 6 (via PlayStationLifeStyle), and as we're piecing this story together, Sony had not yet responded to GameSpot's request for comment. In June, Sony senior vice president of product development Scott Rohde offered an update on The Last Guardian, saying it will ship "when it is absolutely ready." He also said Sony has no deadline whatsoever for the game. "It would be very easy to ship a game when it's not quite ready because we need to meet a business plan," Rohde said at the time. "Gamers are first. And the experience that we provide is first. And that's why we're going to talk about that game when we're ready to talk about it." While the trademark for The Last Guardian has been abandoned, that doesn't necessarily mean the game is canceled. Earlier this year, Ubisoft abandoned its trademark for Brothers in Arms: Furious 4, a World War II-set shooter in development at Gearbox Software. A Gearbox representative confirmed that Ubisoft had dropped the trademark to avoid administrative confusion, and it was later revealed that the game would be delayed out of 2012.

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Discussion

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Colekern
Colekern

Just saying "realistic" and "zombie apocalypse" go together like spelling and trolls. I still wanna play Day z though. I heard it's amazing.

mbcpeanut
mbcpeanut

People still go on about the whole mobile game thing as if it's an actual threat to "real" games and game consoles? As long as people like us exist, there will always be hundreds of millions of dollars in this market. 

 

It's funny, I haven't followed either Gamespot or John for years, but being brought back in by the free subscription from Giant Bomb, it's funny that he's still the champion of this mobile games stuff. It's like listening to 1up Yours all over again!

pal_080
pal_080

Cry Engine 3 looks phenomenal,  but Crytek really needs to work on it's enemy AI routines more than their insane graphical prowess.  Crysis 2 looks great but the bland enemies (and down right bad AI) just made the game nothing more than tech demo for me. 

Hornsqualid
Hornsqualid

It's a shame the Xperia Play was such a major failure. If developers had embraced it, I would be very seriously considering getting one. 

Hornsqualid
Hornsqualid

You know what might give the Vita a little bit of an edge? Add the functionality to do VoIP calling and video conferencing. The reason dedicated handheld consoles are dying is that people don't have the money or the desire to carry two portable devices around with them everywhere. I was actually surprised that Sony didn't do this with the Vita right off the bat. When I first saw the PSP, I thought, "I bet the next version will have a phone"

Freboy
Freboy

The biggest problem for hand held consoles is surely the smart phone.

ggregd
ggregd

I think they've only sold 1.2 million Vitas, so they need to do something fast.  A price drop would help, along with either bundling a memory card or dropping the price on those as well.  The downloadable games could also use a price drop - $15 - 25 for an old PSP game is ridiculous.  Finally, they need to add Vita to PlayStatio Plus and give them the "instant game library" and free games, even if they're PSP games, Minis or PSOne classics.

Elem3nt
Elem3nt

Sales will stop slumping when game designers stop releasing linear boring crap onto the market.

Vividnightmare
Vividnightmare

WE do desperately need a new console generation (Unless of course you switch to PC gaming like I have recently). Consoles are now entirely outdated, of course they were a little pre-dated when they were released. half a gig of system RAM? Are you joking? If this new console generation wants to have ANY chance against PC gaming then 4-8 GIGS (hear me MS and Sony, the word is GIGABYTE not f*&king MEGAbytes.) will be needed. Period. A 2 gig video card and at LEAST a quad core CPU with 4.5 Ghz. I know it all sounds insane but this is what's needed to push the current gaming market forward. Oh and a 500Gig to 1 Tb HDD built in, blu ray compatibility with some sort of Solid state medium for the game. (i.e~ USB 3.0 Drives, Flash Cards, etc.) A console must be able to run Music from CD or flash drive, must be able to play DvDs AND Blu Rays and must be able to connect to the internet for internet services. (also web browsing with up to date browser plugins would be amazing, seriously how could sony license flash for version 9 but not any subsequent flash? morons.)

parubok4
parubok4

Vita? I have it for some months now...

The hardware is great (except battery life, proprietary memory cards and lack of HDMI out).

The software is abysmal: almost no created-for-Vita games, crippled multitasking, horrible browser, half-assed youtube client, long loading times. And it looks like Sony is in no hurry to fix things...

Gliave
Gliave

Ouuu-No....

 

Those types of concepts are only short lived....

 

And besides, it's not a new concept. A remember the old school "Family" system where it was basically a small machine that contained all kinds of titled (over a 100) in its system.

 

A concept of that kind doesn't allow you to get attached to your console if you ask me, but it'll probably be aimed towards the mainstream and soft-core players out there anyhooz.

jomipira
jomipira

Please, try and be not so US centric. I understand you are an US site, but with an worldwide audience. To say XBox 360 is the best selling platform is looking only to the USA because that's the only place where it happens. If you look at Europe for instance you see the opposite, and the worldwide sales of the XBox 360 are behind the PS3 for at least three years now...

Jedilink109
Jedilink109

What is with this NEVER ENDING hatred for tablets?  Seriously people?   I have all the consoles and a nice gaming PC as well as a 3DS and I still enjoy playing games on my ipad.  Yeah it's hard to use on screen controls at first but with some practice it gets significantly easier.  Regardless there's no legitimate reason for such obnoxious hatred towards them for playing games on when they're obviously powerful enough to play some good looking titles, especially when there are tons of legit games on them anyway!

 

Don't get me wrong I'm not going to hope my tablet can replace my PC or game systems any time soon, but if it did, as long as I had the option to plug it into my tv/ sound system and a controller to play with (basically using the tablet to simply power the game) I'd be perfectly fine.

 

Tablets and tablet games are here to STAY people.  This trend is only going to get bigger whether you like it or not.  And if you don't have a tablet and never play games on them, you have nothing to say anyway.

 

This completely ignores the concept of all of this insane complaining and arguing about a hobby we all confess to share and is supposed to give us joy and is all about having fun, yet we act like babies and whine and complain about it constantly any time anything different or out of the box happens.  What the frak you guys?  Sega stopping hardware production and Microsoft getting into it are no big deal but TABLETS are the death of gaming?  Get real people.

twyz
twyz

I don't think new consoles are needed right now. My PS3 still does everthing I need it to do. Plus, I can't afford a new system now anyways.

Fartman7998
Fartman7998

I just freaking bought a new Xbox.  What could they possibly add???

19playstation95
19playstation95

crysis 3 graphics look great. They say they need a new generation of consoles but look what they've done with this one. Just hope they can match good gameplay with those graphics however. If a game has bad gameplay the pretty scenery gets old quick.

the_requiem
the_requiem

"League of Legends says hi Jack!" Oh really? What a pretentious statement. CoD, Halo, Uncharted, Mario, Zelda, Diablo, SKyrim reply to that hi with wassup.

nameaprice
nameaprice

Im over consoles, when will i be able to just jam the sony cord right into the back of my neck!?

shadow-crow
shadow-crow

Just cancel the last guardian and get it over with.

shoooshoo
shoooshoo

Man i wanna shoot that Frog! :)

spartan2777
spartan2777

i wish i had a rigt that could run DayZ :(

DoodaPooda
DoodaPooda

Sure game designers can have gripes about technology... but in the end, can a painter really complain about a canvas?

DoodaPooda
DoodaPooda

The PS VITA SOlution is simple.

#1 Get better marketing!

#2 Offer a $50 voucher toward the New PS4 with every 3G Vita sold. Win, Win!

(you can thank me later)

edgewalker16
edgewalker16

I love how the gaming sites are jumping on the changes to Bioshock Infinite as a negative.  It's not a negative.  The staff changes won't make a damn difference this late in the process...and even if they did there's a Sinclair Solution.  Additionally, there's no multiplayer anymore.  Win-win!

TrueProphecy22
TrueProphecy22

I've been tossing around thoughts of buying a Vita or a 3DS since they released, but I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger on either.

Colekern
Colekern

I can't believe all the crap about how new games are going to cost $100. The prices will stay the same because new developer tools and streamlined developing will make production costs go down. Everyone assumes better graphics= more money. That's not true.

Vodoo
Vodoo

 @Hornsqualid They kinda did do it, but through their phone division with the Xperia Play. The big difference is that it was marketed as a phone with gaming capabilities, and it wasn't marketed toward gamers, but instead, the casual phone buyer market. If it had been reversed and marketed as a Playstation device with phone capabilities, it probably would've done better.

ggregd
ggregd

Also, the game store on Vita is awful - they don't even have screen shots where they really need to have vidoe and demos like 3DS.  And if you go to the PSN website, it's as if the Vita doesn't even exist.  They have surveys asking you about your gaming habits and system(s) and they don't even include Vita.

BIOJECT
BIOJECT

 @Jedilink109 Oh and please name a legit title, because I have yet to find one.  How do you use something that has inferior controls to a decent controller?

BIOJECT
BIOJECT

 @Jedilink109 Virtually every tablet game I can think of are horrible minigames.  Even the highest rated games are all puzzle, tower defense, or ultra simplified versions of much better games on console or handheld.  When they do port games from consoles or handheld onto tablets, the controls are usually horrific.  

 

I have been a gamer for a years and have never really found any games on tablets to be all that exciting.  I own a few too and all go completely unplayed unless I am so bored sitting in line somewhere that I may play it but even then I would rather read.

 

TheOnlyConan
TheOnlyConan

 @twyz I understand some people can not afford new systems, but why would i want to play on a system with almost 10 year old graphics? This wave of systems has already lasted longer then any of the previous systems did.

 

HyuugaHinata
HyuugaHinata

 @twyz Agreed. The people that say this stuff have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. The reason sales are decreasing is because A: A good number of the people that are going to have these consoles have them and B: The economy sucks and most people can't afford game consoles. Ushering in a new generation right now is, if anything incredibly irresponsible and not well thought out; if people can't afford to buy the new consoles, then game sales are going to drop to because people can't play them. And then the industry is going to complain and whine and double its efforts towards internet censorship

Iloveconnie
Iloveconnie

 @Fartman7998 dude, it came out in 2005, thats 7 years, I dont know if you're aware of this but in terms of technology thats absolutely ancient. what did you expect?

malthias_42
malthias_42

 @Fartman7998 the ability to consistently run current games (yes, current. don't even want to think about its inadequacy when it comes to future games) without horrible frame-rates and/or screen tearing. And maybe the ability to run in full HD since everyone has a full HD tv. But hey, it's just graphics right? I mean, movies look fine in 24p don't they? well... that is until you want to do a pan or track shot faster than your grandma answers the phone. Of course they compensate with heavy motion blurring in the frames. Games can do this too... but it's sometimes more taxing on the system than just adding in extra frames would have been. Furthermore, in games (especially fps) you're often moving the camera quickly, whipping around to check your six, which leads to horrible artifacts where the 'video' no longer looks like it's smooth, but rather a collection of still images.So we are very much in need of a new generation of consoles, just to run currently available games at reasonable quality. But don't get me wrong, I'm completely fine with you playing on hardware that was inadequate at the time of release. Just don't expect the rest of us to put up with it. 

isshiah
isshiah

 @19playstation95  that demo is for high end PC's. current gen consoles are behind in that department. having said that, i'm a console gamer so those graphics mean nothing to me.

TheOnlyConan
TheOnlyConan

 @netter99

 Completely different games. No one that actually plays games have ever thought differently.

edgewalker16
edgewalker16

 @netter99 Well, he WAS part of the reason Crysis is now on consoles...you expect him to come up with any smart ideas after that one?

xXxIRyanxXx
xXxIRyanxXx

 @edgewalker16 Multiplayer was fun, but the change in staff does nothing, the art director for Bio 1 will finish Infinite, which shouldn't bother anyone because hes experienced with the franchise and helped launch it. And they got two main guys from Epic who made Gears of War, which is one of the biggest franchises of this console generation. Plus the game is almost finished anyway since it takes a few months for certification stuff, the game looks great and I cant wait till February.

isshiah
isshiah

 @Colekern games already cost the equivalent of 110 US dollars where i come from, so congrats on living where you do.

jomipira
jomipira

 @xdrmonkeyfishx He was talking about February only. Go look the data up. Here is a friendly place that most people know. www.vgchartz.com

Jedilink109
Jedilink109

@BIOJECT well first of all there's plenty of good ports to tablets, Marathon 1-3, Sonic 4, Machinarium, Prince Of Persia: Warrior Within, GTA 3, Max Payne, Beneath A Steel Sky, Monkey Island 1 and 2, all the Back To The Future/Jurassic Park/Sam And Max games, Wrestlefest, Wolfenstein, Doom, Beat Hazard Ultra, Final Fantasy 1, 2, and 3, Final Fantasy Tactics, Duke Nukem 3D, Another World, Civilization Revolution, Megaman X, Sonic The Hedgehog 1 and 2, Tetris, Bejewled, Sonic CD, Plants Vs Zombies, Sonic And Sega All Stars Racing, Ecco The Dolphin, Scribblenauts, Skate It, Maple Story, Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2, Sonic Spinball, Lara Croft And The Guardian Of Light, and Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars. There are plenty more of course but I think I made my point.

jamyskis
jamyskis

 @BIOJECT I don't understand the hatred for tablets either as gaming machines in their own right, but the business model underlying development for them means that good games are few and far between. I have Anomaly: Warzone Earth, Avadon: The Black Fortress, Riptide GP, Another World, Cogs, World of Goo, Great Little Wargame, Toki Tori and Wasted Land for my tablet, all great games, but ultimately all indie games that wouldn't stand much of a beating on the consoles or the PC.

 

And yes, the vast majority of them are derivative puzzle or tower defense games for no other reason than most games require decent physical controls to achieve any level of complexity and there is no point in selling a game for more than $5 if you want to achieve any sales. If games on Android or the iPad cost any more than that, they can wave goodbye to profit.

jamyskis
jamyskis

 @Iloveconnie And yet people today still play SNES, NES, Genesis and C64 games in spite of "ancient" technology. Hell, many of them you can get from the Xbox Live store, PSN and the Wii Virtual Console. Many of the best selling PC games at present are 2D affairs with simple graphics. And yet, triple-A titles on the platforms have been suffering crushingly bad sales of late.

 

When you bear this in mind, it puts into perspective that the current gen consoles and moderate PC are perfectly adequate. There is very little in the way of game concepts that current gaming hardware cannot realise.

GarGx1
GarGx1

 @TheOnlyConan

 You'll be lucky to get graphics like that on the next gen at release, unless they're going to be charging $700 a box. Perhaps they'll get close in a couple of years once the devs have learned how to manipulate the hardware in clever ways. Look at the way this gens console graphics have improved from when they were released.

 

Hell my monster PC with a GTX 590 will probably struggle with Crysis 3 on full bung

Colekern
Colekern

 @isshiah I feel sorry for you. But there's hope. Costs could go down due to lower production costs. Maybe. Probably not. But one can always hope. 

Hornsqualid
Hornsqualid

 @jamyskis I question how much the tablet business model is hurting the console business model. If their were no tablets and smartphones I still think people would be apprehensive about spending $60 a game and $300 for a dedicated gaming machine. I suspect that Steam would benefit the most if there were no tablets or iphones, 1. because of the awesome cheap deals they regularly have. 2. because it thwarts second hand game sales that have been hurting console game developers so much. Developers have to go where the money is, and unfortunately right now, there is more return on casual games because of how cheap the development costs are and the efficiency of digital deployment of the software.  

isshiah
isshiah

 @Colekern thanks, but let's not go nuts. this isn't life saving medication we're talking about.  plus, i get refunds.