The Shortcomings of the Wii U Hardware

The Wii U introduces exciting innovations to the world of console gaming, but a clunky OS and a concoction of cheap hardware sully its potential.

Nintendo's Wii U is finally available, but whether or not it's been able to deliver the sort of "next-gen" experience many are waiting for is another story. Without the proper suite of software, a console's hardware may not be used advantageously. Conversely, weak hardware can hamper any given software's potential in the end. The Wii U falls into both of these traps. It's not a system without merit, but there are too many missed opportunities, and unfortunately, the time to address these issues may have already passed.

Hard Drive Space vs. System Software
The Wii U's system software is a hog. After installing a hefty day-one update, owners of the 8GB Wii U are left with roughly 3GB of internal storage. This is problematic for a few reasons. While there may have been some assumption on the part of customers that a portion of their internal storage would go to the operating system, losing over half of their free space (in the case of the 8GB model) is a bit much. Nintendo may have given some warning ahead of time, but burying the details within a FAQ on its support site hardly constitutes fair notice.


The Wii U's operating system takes up over half of the Basic Set's available memory.

It's also curious that Nintendo would issue an update so large that it prevents some of its customers from purchasing digital copies of games such as Nintendo Land from the eShop.

Bloated, Sluggish Operating System
Outside of dissecting the entire file structure of the OS, or even Nintendo's compression methodology, you can superficially judge the "weight" of software by its load times. That said, opening or exiting the Wii U's Settings application takes 12 to 14 seconds, which is unacceptable by any measure. Why should system software take up so much hard drive space and require such lengthy load times if the only assets being loaded are simply images, text, and a few sound effects? Something doesn't add up.

External Storage Limitations
If you're feeling light on space after the update, you're likely considering the addition of a thumb drive or external hard drive. It's known that the Wii U supports such additions, but less apparent are the associated limitations.

It begins with the USB ports on the Wii U. At USB 2.0, they're severely outdated; the 3.0 standard has been in use for three years and is hardly cutting edge itself. Nintendo has never pushed the envelope tech-wise, but going with USB 2.0 is a gross misstep. Not only does it operate at a fraction of the speed provided by USB 3.0, but it only allows a device to draw a maximum of 500 mA of current per port. USB-powered hard disk drives built on the 3.0 specification require upward of 900 mA.

Promisingly, USB 3.0 is backward compatible, meaning that 3.0 based devices will function, but transfer data at slower speeds, when connected to a USB 2.0 port. Customers who want to add a modern USB 3.0 external drive to their Wii U need to buy one with a dedicated power source, or purchase a USB Y-splitter cable, which would allow a USB (3.0) powered drive to draw power from two ports at once. USB-powered external drives are an invaluable convenience, so it makes sense to go with the latter option despite the requirement of an additional purchase (a y-splitter). If Nintendo wanted to accommodate modern tastes and expectations, upgrading the USB ports, or at least including a y-splitter, would have been an easy win. As it stands, the internal storage of any Wii U is already laughable compared to other consoles, and it doesn't help that the solution to said issue only highlights the shortcomings of something as simple as a USB port.

The Innovative, Lackluster GamePad
There's no question that the GamePad redefines expectations of what a game controller can be. It's also true that, for the most part, Nintendo has done a good job with the software side of things, exemplified by the inclusion of the universal remote application. Sadly, none of these factors make up for the paltry components built into the GamePad, which will ultimately prevent Nintendo from taking full advantage of its potential.

The first culprit is the screen. For whatever reason, Nintendo is sticking by its preference for stylus-centric, resistive touch panels. Compared to the universally preferred capacitive panels used in modern mobile devices, resistive-based touch screens are built for deliberate strokes, not the gestures or multi-touch inputs that make devices like iPads and even Vitas so user-friendly. You can use a finger to interact with the GamePad's screen, but other flaws linger. Light touches don't always register properly, and the input resolution of the screen hampers games such as Darksiders II, which relies on small icons to represent individual items in your inventory.



One of these things is not like the other.

At least the Wii U is capable of streaming video to the GamePad, allowing you to play games like New Super Mario Bros. U without the use of a TV. The physical range afforded by the Bluetooth radio in the GamePad hovers around 30 feet at best, which may be enough for most people, but it would be an entirely different story if the signal were carried over Wi-Fi instead. The problem is that it will never happen with the current iteration of the GamePad, which lacks a built-in Wi-Fi radio. Outside of a Bluetooth signal extender, let's call it the Wiipeater, the only way we'll ever experience true remote gaming on the GamePad is with a new hardware revision.

Wi-Fi may have been omitted in the current version due to the associated parts and manufacturing costs, but it could also be related to the GamePad's puny battery life. Currently, you're lucky if you get four hours of use before having to recharge the GamePad. People are already complaining about the battery life, just a few days into the system's life span, so don't be surprised if you see a third-party manufacturer release a higher-capacity battery in the near future.

Transferring Wii Content
We're lucky that Nintendo allows customers to transfer content from their Wiis to begin with, but the process is ultimately cumbersome due to the Wii U's DRM requirements.

It's complicated: connect a Wii and a Wii U to the Internet, register an SD card online to your Wii U, copy your Wii data to the same SD card, and then copy the data from the SD card to the Wii U. This is facilitated by the Wii Transfer Tool, which must be installed on each system.


Are you having fun yet?

As it stands, the current process only accounts for items installed to your Wii's system memory, meaning that anything on the SD card in the Wii must be copied to the system, or redownloaded, before transferring. What's worse, the Wii menu on the Wii U only allows you to use the same amount of internal memory as the Wii, even though the Wii U has considerably more available. That means you'll still have to use the SD card to store WiiWare and Virtual Console games that don't fit within the 512MB allotted. Also, once you transfer any software from a Wii to a Wii U, your Wii will never again be able to use that license to play the software.

At the end of the day, it's rare that hardware manufacturers are able to include every feature under the sun at an affordable price. The Wii U does many things well, but so much of its promise is lost on the inferior tech in the GamePad and the console. It will be interesting to see how these are addressed down the road, but at the moment, it seems that the Wii U is anything but next-gen tech. Is it unrealistic to expect Nintendo to do more than simply innovate? Its intent came from a good place, but the result leaves a lot to be desired.

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rarson
rarson

"Conversely, weak hardware can hamper any given software's potential in the end."

I disagree with this statement. Yes, to a degree, power allows a greater degree of freedom, but I think it's shortsighted to view software potential in terms of hardware performance; if your game doesn't work on the hardware you're developing, then you need to develop a different game. Just because a game is well-suited to less-powerful hardware doesn't mean it has any less potential. Often it's the limitations of our working environment that lead to truly creative work.

Also, you start off with the insinuation that the hardware is weak, yet you never bother to actually complain about that.

However, having said all of that, I think you make some very good points. Hardware was never an issue for me for the Wii U. The graphics capabilities are more than adequate. But when Nintendo announced the storage configurations and the price,  I was dumbfounded. The space isn't enough and the price is pretty high for what you're getting. I don't want to have to plug in an external drive at all, but the omission of USB 3.0 is pretty puzzling. Granted, 2.0 isn't that terrible, especially since it's probably at least as fast as my internet connection, but it's disappointing to know that if I have to transfer a decent amount of data, it's going to take longer than it could have.

By far, the biggest disappointment is the UI. This was my main concern from the very beginning. While the interface of the Wii wasn't that bad, in some ways it was rather clunky and things like Friend Codes were ridiculously cumbersome. I wish Nintendo would make a clean interface that operates smoothly. It's also sort of becoming a little too cutesy for my taste.

I don't really mind the screen or its limitations, the processing power, and even the lack of storage space. All of that stuff I can live with (and would be much easier to live with if it were $50 cheaper). However, the UI is a fairly big sticking point and the current dearth of software prevents the Wii U from being a "buy now" item. By far, the biggest issue is software.

lenn7777
lenn7777

There isn't anything wrong with the touch screen and does an excellent job when playing interactive games.  The only thing that I would agree with is the battery life for the game pad and a lack of internal memory.  

Inconnux
Inconnux

Once again GS gives poor reviews to a company that doesn't advertise as much as the competition on GS.   This site hasn't had an honest review in years.  

The touch screen is PERFECT.  I have yet to have one issue using my finger vs the stylus.  The stylus was added so you could draw and send pictures.  Please post all of your finger drawn pictures for review. 


I also own other consoles and am VERY happy with the Wii U and recommend it to anyone.  

One criticism is the poor battery life on the controller, I generally just keep it plugged in most of the time so this isn't a major problem.

psykickboyxero
psykickboyxero

I agree with Brown on some of the hardware spec issues. USB 3.0 has been on the market for some time and could have easily been implemented into the console. and the loading times on the WiiU initially seem exausting but after getting used to it, it's not bad at all (is it just me or does it seem to run faster overall after using it for a week or 2?)

Despite that however, it's pretty innovative. The TV control function is just awesome. I feel like that has been in the back of every developers head for some time, and Nintendo finally got around to doing it (NOTE: would not be surprised if sony and microsoft's next gen's do the same thing). The ability to do anything on both screens is also pretty amazing. You can lie in bed and play super mario, or watch netflix! The gamepad is also quite a nice controller as it is, not much of a learning curve there and its pretty comfortable

my only real complaints would be the storage space issue which I feel like will eventually become a problem, then again you can expand the storage with an SD so thats not so bad. I mean the 360 has a 250gb hard drive which is massive as it is. Also, I would have expected the wii U gamepad to be able to use original wii games (not necessarily the screen but using the gamepad as the controller would be nice), and i'm hoping some patch comes along in the near future that allows that ability. 

Jonnyblaze2008
Jonnyblaze2008

I love your glasses Peter Brown.................It looks like your incredibly good at algebra.............

Elliander
Elliander

When they scrapped Gamecube support early on that was when I decided not to buy one. After reading this it only reaffirms my choice to skip the Wii-U. At this point the only way I will buy a Wii-U is if the modding community completely reworks it. Generally speaking, the modding community always finds a way to work in features left out. It's why we can all use 32 GB SD cards on the Wii: Because after the modding community unlocked it, Nintendo was forced to take back it's position that no one needed more storage. A shame Nintendo is repeating those mistakes.

 

I am sure I will give the Wii-U a try in a few years, but even in the reviews with all in support of it the fact remains that it doesn't have Gamecube support which means that if I get one I will have to maintain two consoles in operation at the same time since I still play Gamecube games. My guess is that the Wii-U is internally capable of playing Gamecube games given the way it's built, but that the hardware to plug in Gamecube controllers was removed for reasons of cost (it would have made more sense to sell a special device to plug them in). If that is true that third party hardware coupled with hard mods might indeed make it possible, and before anyone comments I would like to point out that regardless of what Nintendo would have us believe it is not against the law to mod a console as long as we are not pirating games.

linuxhead
linuxhead

To each their own. As far as I see it the Wii / Wii U is doing things that the other game consoles are trying to mimic. Let's see if it gets copied.

I LOVE MY WII U and so does MY SON!!

NemoNine
NemoNine

Right.  Try drawing anything worth a damn with your finger.  Anyone who thinks capacitive screens are superior for gaming should just go to the corner, put on their dunce cap and resume their angry birds marathon.  The analysis in this article is predictably shallow and strives for no insights.  I'd like to expect more from a gaming website.  Allow me to ask my deli clerk what he thinks about the Wii U hardware - I'm sure it'll be equally as interesting.

Sinnicks
Sinnicks

Bought the Wii U for the family for Christmas, and love it a lot so far. Only major complaint is the battery life of the game pad. It's done long before I am and that makes it hard to really get into a game.

362doc
362doc

When you do something right you don't need apologists to defend you because your work speaks for itself.

 

Plain and simple.

 

Game over. Try again?

ChiefFreeman
ChiefFreeman

he's right about the storage issue and the resistive touch screen. An update using upnover half the online storage for the basic model is appaling. I'm going to get an external drive, but that's ridiculous. And having resistive instead of a capacative touch screen in 2012 is absolutely antiquated. I do like the browser a lot though. It works well enough for me that I don't need to buy a tablet computer for casual web surfing. HTML5 runs quite well on the WiiU.

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

People will always find something to complain about. Sure I can see load times being frustrating but these have even been significantly improved with the latest firmware update.

 

As for the nitpicks over the touch screen and the USB 2.0 and external storage I don't feel these are anything to be particularly upset over. As far as the touch screen goes I could care less. The fact that it is resistive and stylus centric is just fine for what the gamepad was intended. The whole Idea behind the gamepad is streaming a game or show to the gamepad while others use the TV for other things. And furthermore if you don't like the stylus many of the WiiU games function just fine using button imputs and commands to navigate menus. Personally I don't like the idea of putting fingerprints all over my screen anyway. I have seen some of my friend's Ipad's and I have to say that they are an absolute mess. Of course you can clean them but why go through all the hassle. A stylus based touch screen is much easier to keep clean and maintain in the long run at least in my opinion. As far as USB 2.0. I don't think anymore is really necessary.

 

Regarding the point you are trying to make about external storage baffles me. Nintendo offered 2 models. Obviously the deluxe set is geared towards the 'core' gamer audience whereas the basic would probably appeal more to your 'casual' family or someone who is not interested in downloading titles. Hell I got the deluxe set and will likely buy most of my games as retail games anyway. That HD is only really going to be used for downloaded titles, apps, or saving data. Why include a HD that is bigger than what is necessary and make the consumer pay more? Nintendo was smart by giving consumers the option to buy a third party storage device if so desired. And lets be honest most 3rd party external Hard drives are fairly inexpensive now. I believe you can pick up a 500GB external USB based Hard drive for 50-60 bucks. My 1TB external HD cost me a 100 dollars. How much were the Proprietary HD's sold by Microsoft?

 

As far as outdated tech goes I don't feel this is exactly a fair criticism either. Nintendo is utilizing a GPU more than a CPU as opposed to the other systems which also has resulted in a significant amount of heat reduction. In fact the WiiU's power consumption is roughly 33 watts which is roughly half of what is currently seen in the PS3 and 360. The WiiU also can match the 360 and PS3 out of the box. How long have the PS3 and 360 been on the market now? Compare a PS3 title from its launch to PS3 games now. Now do the same for 360. WiiU currently matches what those systems offer and this is only the first generation of software titles for the console before developers truly get to know how to best utilize the hardware of the system. And I think its important to note, you don't need the the latest and greatest to have truly great games. Look at the Wii. The Wii has sold far more systems than the PS3 or 360, all while having less hardware muscle. And yet despite the limitations of the Wii's hardware it has had some of the best games last gen. Titles like Skyward Sword (( though Im sure at least one of the gamespot crew would beg to differ even though he has since been proven to have not known what he was talking about, they did have to edit his review after all )) and don't forget titles like Mario Galaxy, or Galaxy 2, Xenoblade, Metroid Prime 3, etc. Its not about hardware, its about how its utilized to create memorable experiences.

SpecimenB
SpecimenB

Holy cow that was a crappy review. Someone take Peter's poetic license away!

Selznick
Selznick

Gamespot has a huge bias against Nintendo. This system is not cheap. t works perfectly and continues to amaze me every day.

Nzilla
Nzilla

the only thing of note here is the small hard drive space and a minor issue with slow load times.  while the hard drive space is something i worry about, the article as a whole seems more like a smear job.  I've had nothing but fun with my new WiiU and not having the most current USB ports did not diminish that fun at all.

Tekcor
Tekcor

The speed afforded by USB2 is plenty for disk-based drives. I think this is nitpicking for the sake of finding something to criticize. Load times, absolutely agree with, the Wii U Menu is absurdly slow. The transfer process, also have to call you out on. Nintendo did a good job of walking you through the steps, and the process was explicitly designed to NOT require both consoles being powered on at the same time. The alternative, using a wireless connection, also requires two TVs, two wiimotes, etc. I think the process went just fine. And the space limitation makes sense to me, since the Wii is so obviously a system-in-a-system emulator.

 

The WiiU is not without it's flaws, but it really feels like you're grasping.

bubnux
bubnux

Couldn't disagree more. Haven't even turned on PS3 or 360 since November 18. Controller is outstanding, feels so solid & screen is gorgeous. Love taking NSMBU & BO2 to bed!!!

esk1m00k
esk1m00k

Peter i disagree.Your interest in the future sounds about the same as my interest in the effect of gravity on the olive in the center of a pizza.I'm a cynical sod about videogaming of late and i can only imagine being a vid game journo would compound that pretty negatively.It's ok not to like stuff and it's ok when stuff does just enough to get by but across the board g-spots coverage of the wii u has just been lacklustre,disinterested and dull and doesn't relate to the experience.

Watch one of your videos regarding anything really and i dare say you'll pick up the point i'm trying to make,we could all read an auto prompt with a little more enthusiasm surely.Anyway have a holiday,some sun,get laid or whatever just cheer up and stop taking yourselves so seriously because you're not a public service site you're entertainment thats at the moment lacking.

foxhoundnomah
foxhoundnomah

im planning 2 buy a wii u in march for mh3g hd alone,just like i did for the wii.Just to found out that the new wii u dont support a keyboard or voice chat ingame.Where in 2012 !its not acceptable by any means,and i hope its patchable.   And i do agree the 8gb HDD is laughable with having 3gb after update.All in all i think nintendo is doing a rly good job in promoting and trying to fool ppl to buy it while having huge profits.Like i said before,the only reason im buying a wii u is mh3g ultimate hd,dont think you got me fooled with your sexy useless gamepad Reggie, and fake promotions,advertising and silly ass games,peace out.

SAFEone09
SAFEone09

What Nintendo need to do is make sure they are in the 3rd party loop for the next generation, when AAA titles come out as long as the Wii U gets in there they will be fine. Having top specs only matters if they are being used ,if the last gen showed us anything its that the real trick is just having enough, Playstation had the specs but most its games ended up being Xbox quality, multiplatform development aims to push the bottom system up and dumb the top down and the cost of big titles now means this way of doing things is here to stay.

I would hope that Nintendo bothered to ask developers what they thought they would need for future titles (but maybe not ,no mic, bad triggers on pro pad seems a mistake).

As far as first party exclusives go Nintendo have the advantage but people want more full on titles so just sticking Mario in a golf/tennis game wont cut it anymore, longer development means less first party output means third party support is now must,they took a gamble going first, only time will tell if it pays off for them.

CrazyOldCracker
CrazyOldCracker

This article is rediculous in my opinion, the only downfall to the Wii U I have noticed is the Battery life of the Controller.  The storage is fine on the system just use a thumb drive or a external hard drive if you really need more space remember the Xbox 360 core system which didn't even come with a hard drive now that was stupid. 

 

I have Darksiders II on my external hard drive USB 2.0 and it runs fine no problems or issues with it, so why do i need a USB 3.0 oh wait i guess i don't. 

 

The loading issues im sure will be taken care of over time but 12 seconds isn't the end of the world how many OS updates have the other systems had so far to work as well as they do, I know my 360's dashboard doesn't look anything like it did when i first got it.

 

The Controller is amazing and it worked really well with ZombiU and Darksiders II and never once did i feel like i had to pinch the screen for any reason come to think of it i have never had to do it on my Vita either.  The stylus is a thing im glad that they never tryed to get rid of I love seeing some of the pictures people draw its pretty amazing if u ask me.  The battery life does suck which i hope can be fixed in the future but for now it sucks having to have it pluged in all the time.

 

Data Transfer from the Wii to the Wii U wasn't  hard at all and im glad that they even gave us that option because they really didn't have to they could have done what Xbox did and say up yours.  All that time i spent playing Knights of the Old Republic is traped on my old Xbox.

 

Im looking forward to all the next gen consols and the more support we give them the better the experience will be for all of us.  The Wii U has far more Pros then Cons no system (except for the Super Nintendo) have ever been perfect.

aahammel
aahammel

This is a good article. Also note, there is a HUGE flaw in the Nintendo Network ID creation process. The system you create your ID on is the only system you can use your ID, for now. I ran into this problem. I created an ID on my brother's system while waiting to get a Wii U myself. When I got my system, thinking I could just select the add user from an existing ID option and download my ID, I was sorely mistaken. Now I have a Wii U asking me to enter an ID every time I turn it on, and without being able to do so, I am unable to play any games and the system is useless. Nintendo boasts being able to setup multiple IDs on one system, but I do not live in the same house as my brother, I live in an apartment with my own Wii U. I need my ID! NINTENDO IS CRAP!

gouldjw
gouldjw

I continue to be amazed by Gamespot's complaints about the transfer process.  I still don't think they've tried it even once yet.  IT IS AMAZING!  And easy.  And why would you ever want or need to go back to the Wii???  Clueless, man, just clueless.

edhc44
edhc44

Pretty pathetic excuse for an article (as it has been with anything on Gamespot for a long time now). I really wasn't expecting anything from the Wii U and I found the two first points pretty disturbing indeed. Specially when Peter talks about those long load times in the system menu. However, complaining about USB speed and particularly, about the content transfer method pushed too far. I have to cope with the "oh so slow" USB 2.0 speed daily and the transfer method doesn't seem to differ that much from transfering content from one 360 to the other; something most of us have already had to deal with at some point. By the way, I own an external 1TB HDD (USB 3.0) which I use in USB 2.0 ports oftenly; it doesn't have external power supply and I don't need any Y cables to use it. Ever. 

ronnieo54
ronnieo54

Really? inferior tech in the game pad? its a f'ng tablet controller that allows you to stream video while you sit on the toilet. Show me ANY current system on the market that can do the things that the WiiU does. The operating system is much, much cleaner than the window's 8 wanna be xbox dashboard, and you don't get the 5 million ads for sh*t you aren't interested in buying slowing your browsing experience down.  I think that the real issue here is that Gamespot wasn't paid as much to compliment the WiiU as they expected so they assigned this "review" to one of their soul-less "journalists" to demonstrate their total lack of integrity once again. 

tommynj
tommynj

Wii U hardware has no limitations because you can buy a 1TB to 3TB HD like I did and have a brick ton of space to play with. The Wii U is about buying addons like a HD to your system so an 8gb systems is just as valuable as a 32gb system because you go buy the addons. Obviously when he wrote the article he did not see the big picture.

AsinineZomg
AsinineZomg

?? Wii U gamepad uses Wi-Fi. It's called Miracast. Way to be misinformed.

cubachino
cubachino

Well I'm just hoping my Wii U is with in 30 feet of my bathroom. So that on the next iteration of Mortal Kombat I can wait for a ranked match while sitting on my toilet. And then literally and safely $h*t myself as i watch some morbidly good player kicks my a$$.

Itzsfo0
Itzsfo0

And it is YEARS before the ps4 (if its even called that which im blatantly going to say it) im getting tired of the ps trophies, vitas lack of software, yea its a blu-ray player on the ps3, a quiet hum of the system, its a decent system, with alot of power under the hood (that until recently WASNT even being utilized properly) i remember ps2/early years of ps3 being horrible with OS/content - 360 was far superior (not graphically but who cares about what is the "best FULL HD 1080p blah blah resolution) good games are good games, I want to enjoy good games reguardless of the resolution, progressive scann, and how large the internal hard-drive is, everyone that argues the 360 vs ps3 (or how BOTH systems are superior to the wiis capabilities) tend to forget YOU are a small % of overall gamers that just want to enjoy the sy stems, and could give 1) two shits about the capabilities or its short-coming - fact is the wii HAS STILL blown both t hose "super omfgzorz 360 and ps3 powerhouses" in terms of sales per units in japan, US, and Canada...sorry (im NOT even a Nintendo fanboy, yet I still enjoy a SLEW of titles on my wii, and already enjoying 3 titles on my wii u) i respect both other systems, but they are (not by far) superior, atleast not in sales, game quality and overall fun

Itzsfo0
Itzsfo0

No one is going to forget about the wii or wii u, (some idiot made the same comment chieffreeman said 15 hours ago) years ago after the 1996 xmas release (or a few months before xmas) release of the n64 ppl said that same very thing (after the next consoles come out, n64 will be buried, they will stick to hanhelds) LOL...12, 13, 14, 15 years later..GC, Wii, Wii U (right 3 more consoles, and millions of units sold DO YOU GUYS forget that the wii > outsold ps3 and 360 ? overall in the past 6 years ? Have you forgotten that, "not next-gen tech" or not...the NOA (nintendo of america) is still a powerhouse, comments or no comments, criticisms or no - end of story :)

manguy69
manguy69

I remember the same kind of thing happened with the wii launch. People were confused how to use it, wii motes were being thrown through televisions lol, and a bunch of other things. I think with time everything will be cleared up with some 1st party games and better OS. Patience people. And.. I bet microsoft and sony will have a tablet controller option at their next-gen console launch to appeal to wii u fans, just a prediction.

Rinslowe_AE
Rinslowe_AE

@Inconnux 

I stopped coming to GS for it's news and reviews a while back... 

What a complete load of crap this article is, shabbily written and full of Nintendo anti...

Readers beware - this is amateur Journalism at it's most sarcastic - read with equal amount of scepticism as GS has abandoned unbiased professionalism for the apple of Eden... 

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

@Elliander So you are not buying the WiiU when they officially stopped supporting the gamecube with the newer models of the former Wii console? Seems kind of backwards. If you really wanted gamecube support you would need one of the first gen or earlier Wii consoles. They stopped supporting gamecube long before the WiiU even came out. If you want gamecube support use an older Wii console.

gobSIDES
gobSIDES

Wow more of the same typical defense from idiot Nintendo fans. Are the other consoles copying the Wii U for online stores and what they are doning with online? Ow no that's the Wii. Is the Wii and Wii U using HDD storage in a console now for the first time, nope they stole that from Xbox. How about being the first console to realise the power of HDMI and bring that to the gaming world? No wait that was sony debuting it at E3 '05 and being the first to but it in a comercial console while Nintendo were still stuck on SD and Micro originally used RGB Compnent.

Ofcourse you and you son love it. I am gonna assume you son is young and you are working so are very casual about gaming. You are the exact demographs for a casual console like this, the exact type of people who won't care that the Wii U is using, by todays standards, fairly poor hardware. So you do what all other Nin' fans do and bury you head and claim the other consoles are copying WiiU.

The Wii U has features from other NON NINTENDO consoles currently we do not know if PS3 or Xbox 720 has got any features at all like the Wii U, so please tell me what are you talking about.

DrizztDark
DrizztDark

@NemoNine it's all good in the hood bro... I'm a Xbox ps3 and beast rigged pc gamer and I still bought a wii u just cause of all the different features... Even though I'm way more into Xbox and pc gaming, I think the wii u is the shit! First Nintendo product I've bought since.... Damn Super Nintendo.... Which my parents bought, but so far I really enjoy it and for the first time in ever I will be able to play Zelda when that come out. Advice to you gamers with wives, this is the starter console for them imo. First item dealing with gaming ever, my wife was excited to buy and play...

DarkAztaroth
DarkAztaroth

 @Tekcor Depending on the USB hard drive (and mostly if it has an external AC cable) you might experience a few problems, some hard drive could not work at all.

 

As far as speed goes though, I don't think we really need more..

 

362doc
362doc

 @bubnuxIs your bed 10 feet away from the console?

 

DarkAztaroth
DarkAztaroth

 @foxhoundnomah Personally still hesitating on if I should buy a wiiu for MH3gU or if I should stick to my 3DS

 

The only thing that could make me play it on WiiU instead would be the controller, if it feels smooth enough (I'll have to try it in a store or something) cause I can't play on 3DS for extended period without wanting to cut my hands off from discomfort...

bamir0
bamir0

 @SAFEone09

I don't know what you mean by playstation having the specs  (bar the optical drive the PS3 and 360 are essentially technically identical in terms of performance and potential).

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

@gouldjw Only real reason to go back to the Wii is if you have a first gen Wii console that has gamecube support. The only reason my old wii is still hooked up. Bit sad my old Gamecube has effectively been retired though now. XD.

Hellsasin
Hellsasin

 @tommynj I can see where you are going with this but if you buy a product you should not have to buy more to utilize the product. In my opinion the WiiU should have been the Wii in the first place.

linuxhead
linuxhead

@gobSIDESso you're right. I am a Nintendo fan, I'm also a Xbox, Playstation, and PC gaming fan. I have owned every gaming system ever made. I have also owned almost all of the hand held ever made with the exception of PS Vita. That's next! Let's just say I'm addicted to gaming. 

I think people that assume they know everything about anything are the real idiots. Matter of fact I chuckle when people get so angry and try to put down others when they don't share similar options. At the end of the day who are you? If you're not a CEO or a Chairman of the Board of one of these companies go relax and enjoy what ever console you play with trying to influence me. At the end of the day how money are you getting from being a anti-nintendo mascot boy!?!?

If I have to explain what the other consoles stole from Nintendo, who's the idiot.

I like the Wii U for what it does and what it offers. I like the rest of my consoles for they do and what they offer. Go chill out and enjoy whatever you like to play.

Ciscod1
Ciscod1

@362doc @bubnux Uninformed comment...I have used mine in bed, about 20-25 feet away, in another room with the door closed.... Nuf said... When was the last time you played your PS3 or Xbox under those conditions !!? I have never been able to do it with my other systems ( and I own them both ) !!!!!!

SAFEone09
SAFEone09

 bamir0. Will be interesting to see if the PS3 has anything left power wise in 2013 ,you are right in them being similar but maybe games like The Last of Us are just out of XBOXs reach?

goldensunfan
goldensunfan

@Hellsasin @tommynj So what your saying is Nintendo should force the consumer to pay even more money up front for something that they may or may not need? 8 GB is just fine for a family console, and 32GB is plenty for a core gamer to start with. If Nintendo had included more the price would have been more right at the start. This way people can CHOOSE whether or not and how much they want to upgrade. Most 3rd party external hard drives are fairly inexpensive today. When you can buy a 500 gb external for 50-60 bucks and a 1TB for about a 100 bucks it makes other proprietary storage media seem ridiculously over priced. For example the Vita Memory cards. 100 dollars for a 32GB Vita Memory stick. 32 GB SD cards run anywhere from $22 - $36.

tommynj
tommynj

 @Hellsasin 

 

Why not ? When you buy a pc you get bay slots so you can add extra stuff to it. Same concept applies to the Wii U.

DrizztDark
DrizztDark

@linuxhead @gobSIDES derp.....derp derrp derrrrrpppp