The Last of Us Voice Actress Criticizes Ubisoft’s Stance on Female Characters in Assassin’s Creed Unity

“Give me a f***ing break! It's 2014!”

Ashley Johnson, the voice of The Last of Us’ Ellie, has criticized Ubisoft over the company’s recent statements about the lack of playable female characters in Assassin’s Creed Unity.

“I was like, 'Give me a f***ing break! It's 2014! How many video games do you have to make to realise maybe have an option to have a female be in there?'” Johnson told Videogamer in an interview. “And maybe not just on PS Vita,” by which Johnson is probably referring to Aveline de Grandpré, the female protagonist of Assassin’s Creed Liberation, initially exclusive to Sony’s handheld.

"But it did make me upset,” she said. “There are so many female gamers...I don't know what the percentage is at this point but there are a lot of females that play video games and it would be nice to see stronger females in a game that are not just the damsel in distress, the love interest or she's oversexualised. She doesn't even necessarily have to be a badass. Just like a normal female character."

Johnson is correct in assuming there is huge number of female gamers. As pointed out in a recent Reality Check episode, according to a study by the Entertainment Software Association, out of 1.2 billion gamers worldwide 48 percent are female and 52 percent are male.

Ubisoft technical director James Therien said during E3 2014 that female characters were going to be included in Assassin's Creed Unity, but were scrapped because of the additional work that would have been involved. Ubisoft later issued a formal statement on the matter, saying the company recognizes the "valid concern around diversity in video game narrative."

Developers from Electronic Arts, Activision, Ubisoft, and Paradox Interactive have all sounded off on the issue, but the best commentary yet might be the from the two brilliant cosplayers above, dressed in cardboard boxes that have the words "BOOBS?" and "2 HARD TO RENDER" written on them. The photo comes from Feminist Frequency creator Anita Sarkeesian, and was taken during the GaymerX2 conference.

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KiriharaZro
KiriharaZro

Maybe for her, strong female characters are the ones that talk sh*t every 3 words in a line, just like Ellie does in TLoU

SingletreeAve
SingletreeAve

Remember Me is a decent game with a strong female lead and it did terrible.  Which means that hardly any of the 500 million gaming females supported it.

Naquada
Naquada

I like Ubisoft's indirect response to this. They stuck a female character in the game (proving the time/effort BS they were spouting previously to be a lie), but they stuck it in and broke it off by making it a non-playable character! LOL!

TrialMonkey
TrialMonkey

I would like to know where they got those 48%/52% numbers. Are we talking about all games, including casual or mobile games? If so, that stat doesn't belong in this particular discussion. There are millions of people that play candy crush or temple run but wouldn't go near a AAA action title like Assassins Creed. No doubt there are likely more girl gamers as a percentage than are in my peer group (2 out of 20ish), but that close to 50/50? I'm not sold.

Keitha313
Keitha313

Girls are always moaning... gimme a break!

Hate feminazis

VegasAceVII
VegasAceVII

I appreciate her speaking out and I love her acting abilities; she is fantastic and I believe she is right in this situation.  However, I hope her firing back at Ubisoft like this will not prevent her from landing any future projects/roles in the industry.


Do yo' thing Ashley :)

kjlafoll
kjlafoll

52% Male, 48% Female. I'd disagree with that, but not for the reasons below from some of the more "masochistic" responders. Females are horrendously under-represented in video games, correct? Consider this: for many years, video games were solely a "nerd" thing. Your average captain of the football team kind of guy would give video games a second glance. Developing a business on a "nerds only" platform can't be good for business, right? So, the video game developers decided to macho up their games, throwing in some cinema quality action sequences, some blood and guts, breasts galore, and a variety of manly roles to assume that'd get any guys testosterone pumping. And then video games became a guy thing.


My point is, a lot of women aren't that into shoot'em up, balls-against-the-wall, no-storyline-whatsoever-but-tons-of-titties-and-testosterone rampages. If you're a girl that likes to play Gears of War, Manhunt, God of War, etc, good for you. I suck at Gears; you'd probably kick my ass. Just don't expect me to buy tickets for the next Nicholas Sparks movie. Sexist? Maybe, but there's no denying that more men are into Gears than women, and more women are into The Notebook than men. Maybe that's a cultural issue, but regardless, the statistic is wrong. Why would women even want to have a 48% share of this "no girls allowed club"? If I opened up a restaurant, but spat in every womens plate, how many women would you expect eat at my restaurant? Dumb Feminist: "48%, because girls like to eat just as much as guys." Sorry Dumb Feminist, but most of the women that I know don't like to be treated like crap.


Now let's talk about The Last of Us. My girlfriend and I can't get enough of this game. Why? Because we can both appreciate a good narrative. I think that video game companies have been trying to introduce women to games for a while now, but were scared to do so at the expense of alienating their predominantly male consumer base. Now that companies like Naughty Dog have begun to see that everyone can cash in on experiences like The Last of Us, I think that we'll be seeing more and more women playing core console games. Come on girl-gamers, do you think that a million dollar industry would intentionally alienate women from video games because they're sexist? Everything boils down to money. Assassins Creed, a game which lacks the powerful narrative which would bring in a satisfactory amount of female dollars, depends on male centered action and cinematics to rake in the dough. Leave games like this be, and maybe in a few more years, we'll see more and more companies catch on to all inclusive cash cow that is a good narrative and games like Assassins Creed will cease to be. And just like the evolution from Donkey Kong to The Last of Us, I look forward to that day.


But in the meantime, we should avoid pressuring an artist to alter their creative image, even if we perceive it as behind the times. The consumer makes choices when the subject is business, the artist makes choices when the subject is art. I would hope that the girl-gamers out there want video games to be embraced as art, not business. That's just my opinion. Not that I would categorize Assassins Creed as art, but I'd like to imagine it as somewhat so. Now, if the game in question were Guitar Hero or COD, go ahead, pop a female character model in there. Or better yet, give me the option to play as Buckethead in a future GH reboot. Whatever floats your boat right? Those kind of games are purely business as far as I'm concerned anyway.


dannydopamine8
dannydopamine8

we hired you to talk into a damn microphone not voice your stupid opinions

elijafirebrand
elijafirebrand

Her vulgarity doesn't help her case at all.  I do agree females should have a customizable character but what do you expect from linear crap games, play ESO if you want to play a female.

Also those statistics are WAY off, what they are including are ditzy blondes who have a farmville account as "gamers".  derp.

dillon_uchiha
dillon_uchiha

*cough* Telltale's "The Walking Dead Game" *cough*

1stormbringer77
1stormbringer77

I have to laugh at you guys when they say Female Gamers don't exist, that they always use only other mens consoles. Way back in 1987 I was stationed in Germany and one of the Ladies in my flight had a Atari 2600 and She was the ONLY ONE in it that played video games. I played hers for a little bit, then bought my own. So if you think that only men have them and Women never own them, you obviously live in a different world of reality. I've seen Women buying games at GameStop, Best Buy, Walmart, etc. so many times, and almost all of them are getting them for themselves, not their boyfriend, husband, kids or as a gift. Jeez, are you guys really so much of an egotistical chauvinist that you CAN'T accept Women as gamers, especially when you find out that some of them are better at the games than you are?

Darkshad3
Darkshad3

Taking Selfies holding your Brother's Controller or his Games or playing Mobile Games or Just Dance or other non Gamer gamer things such as that does not make you a Gamer so really with that said the actual percentage of Female Gamers is 0

jeffryclause
jeffryclause

So tired of the whining about female characters.

jstarscomm
jstarscomm

she obviously didn't play Odin Sphere back when it was made in 2007. You could play as one of the three female characters Gwendolyn, Mercedes, and Velvet. And you could play two male characters as Pooka Prince, and Oswald. so inconclusion there is no inequality in 2014 nor was there in 2007, you female militants.

rjdjones
rjdjones

Give me a f***ing break. Just how many female players are there, and no, the BS survey claiming that 47% of gamers are female really doesn't count, and how many of them really care what sex the computer game character is? Why is it that the ones whine most about this are most likely to not even like playing games - eg Anita Sarkeesian.

If more female characters are essential - get a team of female designers and programmers, play testers etc. and create incredible games that outclass all those produced by sexist, oppressive men. You've already got a huge market if female gamers desperate to buy, right?

rogerthat1945
rogerthat1945

Women should compete directly with all men all the time rather than cherry pick. 

Women make games and include men; then we can talk. 

Until then;- 

See you in the Gymnasium, on the tennis court and in the boxing ring. 

Tell us about equality then..

lilflipp
lilflipp

@TrialMonkey They're probably including every video game, ever. Probably crap like farmville and stuff. It's the only way I could think of the number being that high. I've been playing videogames for a while, and I met many more dudes than women.

SkyAboveThePort
SkyAboveThePort

@kjlafoll The "48 %" is an overall figure, across all platforms. Some genres are totally dominated by females, think Facebook games, Candy Crush, etc. Thus, even though you might have almost as many female gamers, you probably won't mix with them much on your Battlefield or Planetside..

amillionhp
amillionhp

@elijafirebrand 

No, every game shouldn't have a customizable female option. Just like they shouldn't have a customizable male option either if a female lead was selected. It depends on the game. If the game's story is very character driven with a lot of emphasis placed on what this character does and how they interact with the world, then developers need to select a specific character and run with that. More often than not in games like this, there will be voice actors bringing these characters to life in the majority of the game. They'll have a specific look for the character. A single costume design will be chosen and it'll be an important decision for a marketing strategy. The costume and general appearance of the character will always be very detailed, and generally speaking too complicated to replicate on any game's character creation option.


This is a very clear and obvious reason a character edit option wouldn't work well in every single game. Its common sense. Its because of this reason that we can't force feed people the nonsense concept of "other games have character edit, so why not this game?" Its hilarious that people can just throw out some BS response like a 2hard 2render picture clearly taking a jab at Ubisoft while conveniently ignoring how much Assassin's Creed characters verbally and physically interact with other characters. Yeah, that is a lot of extra voice work. This isn't Skyrim where players select a text response. Oh, and how about rewriting half the damn written script to account for how the lead interacts with females? Or how important Ezio's character model was for marketing the game?


I'm not even sure why Assassin's Creed should be targeted for this kind of thing. Now bare in mind i haven't actually played past 2 so i don't know what occurred in the story with Desmond and Lucy beyond that but i remember Lucy being pretty damn important in that regard. One could argue the game was actually more about Desmond than Altair or Ezio and Lucy the ONLY other significant character in regards to Desmond's story, she guided him, trained him.... if Ubisoft used a woman for that character, i just don't see what women have to complain about. That is by no means an example of women being underrepresented.

Darkshad3
Darkshad3

@1stormbringer77 Try bring it up to any girl you like you like im sure it'll get you laid because they're so interested & i know for a fact if a Female buys a game it's for someone else unless it's the new Just Dance or Hannah Montana or some some pile of BS like that.


& im sure some gave it a try back in 1987 because it was new & cool but that's all it was a try they never stuck with it.


& none of them are better at games than me none of them would even come close even if they played the same type of games but they don't none are hardcore only noobs who only play things like what i mentioned which doesn't qualify as being a Gamer.

katiebug85
katiebug85

@Darkshad3 so basically you are telling me that I do not exist because I have never taken selfies like that and I have played tons of games on tons of platforms so if I exist and I happen to know of plenty of other female gamers (not the gamer girl cliche' btw) who exist how can the percentage actually be 0? hmmm? betting you cannot answer because you obviously were making a baseless assertion huh?

katiebug85
katiebug85

@jeffryclause Well it's not like we are going to stop until the changes are made so the video game industry might as well make the changes and get it over with. I mean after all it would be wrong of our society to leave one sexist stronghold untouched.

jstarscomm
jstarscomm

@rjdjones these kind of people just like looking for a fight, create controversy when there isn't any. someones always trying to be the next martin luther king jr.

filben
filben

@SingletreeAve @Keitha313 Nothing but it seems moaning men feel superior...


@ topic  I'd love to see more female characters in games which aren't only there for sexual interest (Mass Effect shows how it's done the worst way...). I see her point. There is (fine) line between senseless bashing because Ubisoft did use a female hostage in Rainbow Six (It's just a hostage, a placeholder, goddamnit. It could have been a yellow box, or a red one. There is nothing to relate to, it's just an mission objective in competitive gameplay), and overly sexualise women like in RPGs where the rule aplies the more the armour class the less the fabrics.

Darkshad3
Darkshad3

@Tabarnaque U Don't know who i am or just how much of a beast i am u don't wanna face me you'd get humiliated so bad you'd cry.

relorazul
relorazul

@katiebug85 @Darkshad3 You are aware that only +-5% of developers (excluding artist, who rarely have anything to say in a project save for art style and such if you would include it it would be 15%) are women. People write what they know for a good reason, to not misrepresent something. (and let us not mention the amount of men and women in a game, excluding token characters, are closer to 25% women than to 15%. Simply put women already get catered to more, per developer.) 


You are just one of those third wave "feminists" that want equal results instead of equal opportunity and scream "sexist" or "patriarchy" at every time a women doesn't get an equal  RESULT.


If you want change, actually change it by working in the field. Us game developers, indie and AAA  alike, have yelled that for decades and even gave women MORE opportunities than men yet the percentage is still low. So the million dollar question is why are women underrepresented, And the simple answer is, they don't work in the industry as much. Than the big question is why not? With again a simple answer, most women aren't interested in making games, let alone programming or game design (which both are heavy on math).


So the next time you want to yell feminist bullshit and call something "sexist" or yell "patriarchy" don't just look at the result, look at the reason WHY!

amillionhp
amillionhp

Congratulations on cherry picking a comment from a poster with the most frustration and addressing the obvious exaggerations. I'm sure that makes you feel special. It also allows you to conveniently sidestep the obvious point behind his comment and many others on here. That being the "data" collected on a near 50/50 ratio of male and female gamers is complete bullshit. Of course no serious gamer would appreciate being rolled into a category that includes exclusive mobile phone gamers. Which is exactly what the majority of female "gamers" are. Your personal circle of friends doesn't change this clear fact.

amillionhp
amillionhp

Uh huh, and what changes are those exactly. That a developer must explain themselves from this point forward for choosing a male lead character? I mean... The audacity of those rat bastards!

jstarscomm
jstarscomm

@katiebug85 there is nooooo sexist thing going on. its all in your head. you didn't play odin sphere when it came out in 2007. you could play three female toons and only two male characters.

84dublicious
84dublicious

@jstarscomm @rjdjones Agree. Doesn't affect me, so it doesn't exist.


I don't know why people try to rock the boat. That's never resulted in improvements in the entire history of mankind.

rogerthat1945
rogerthat1945

@84dublicious @rogerthat1945 That said; if they are more intelligent on the military weapons front...... Designing new engineering tricks.... if they are better at men than that.... Well then, it makes a difference.

However; the reality is that almost all women cannot even design a sewing machine without men.


Any women out there want to contradict that?


In fact (while on the subject of Design); in fifty thousand years; has Africa`s Africans (rather than Mediterranean peoples) ever produced even one single globally important invention?

Bongo drums and spears don`t count, as they are universal....

SingletreeAve
SingletreeAve

@filben @SingletreeAve @Keitha313 I totally agree.  My comment was a feeble attempt at ironic humor.  I have trouble taking this issue seriously because things have gotten to the point where everyone is moaning about how their particular special interest isn't adequately represented. and publishers acknowledge and pander to them.  My take is that video games are 50% artistic creation and 50% gameplay.  As far as I'm concerned the game creators can do whatever they want with the artistic component. as an author does with a novel, and and a painter with a painting.  Some will like it, other will not.  Everyone reacts differently.  If you don't like the creation then don't support the artist in the future.  Gameplay on the other hand must be rock-solid and compelling or I'm not the least bit interested.  The past couple AC games have fallen short in both of the categories, so I will not be buying Unity.  Probably not even if they add a playable female at this point.

katiebug85
katiebug85

@relorazul well yea if all you want is simple answers than that may be how you see it, unfortunately the reality isn't quite as simple. The fact is when a young girl finds an interest in much of anything that would be considered "boy things" they aren't encouraged and often get corrected to the point they completely lose interest, it is not because they personally chose to not have interest they were convinced not to have interest, and that is further reinforced when their peers (in this case boy/men gamers) act crappy towards them and make it a hostile environment for them which just adds to their loss of interest, I have hear countless stories of girls in computer classes for tech and programming being constantly berated by their fellow class mates who were predominately males and losing interest in pursuing further for fear of getting worse. So yea simple answer they don't have interest. Long answer society still doesn't want them to have interest


presauk
presauk

@amillionhp A fact huh? So where is your statistical analysis? I mean if you feel so confident about this you should have gone out and done some surveying right? Maybe it is true and probable that the 50/50 bracket is wrong at least with respect to the population of hardcore gamers out there. But If it were even distributed as 60/40 or 70/30 or even 80/20 those are still a significant percentage of our community. But I ask you this... Does it damage the rep of our community to be more inclusive of people of all walks of life? No one suggested get rid of male characters and add females alone... In real life we have numerous examples of historically significant females... Joan of Arc, Laura Secord, Harriet Tubman just to name a few. So the source material is right there for assassins creed to go ahead and include female characters WITHOUT having to make whole new ones. At no point does she even suggest that the characters have to be a lead role... Just that they be something more than a damsel in distress or a piece of eyecandy. Next time you declare something to be a fact have some numbers to back it up... As for cherry picking a comment I'm pretty sure that its hardly cherry picking when the vast majority of commentators on here seem to be in line with your thinking and the one she replied too. The same crap about how X group is not prevalent enough so we have no reason to try and be inclusive of X group. I don't see how being more inclusive would hurt anybody in the gaming community...  

katiebug85
katiebug85

@amillionhp about picking out the one user who is obviously being ironically sexist uhhhh how about I was calling him out for what he was doing being wrong? Am I not allowed to call someone out when they are being a jerk? As for the statistics uhhhhh why does the percentage really matter to you? are you going to feel better if it winds up being a larger margin of men than women that play games other than facebook/phone apps? I mean seriously if anything if that number is actually lower and decreases at all I would have to say it would be a very sad statistic because it just means that the toxic world of gaming with men has continued to keep women and girls out of it.  But let's also ask another question would it be plausible that the number might also potentially reflect that a lot of girls and women prefer to play anonymously? meaning so guys don't actually know they are female cus let's face it other than the occasional white knight out there a lot of dood's act stupid towards them if they reveal themselves as female. Not to mention that often times if we reveal we play video games to guys in person we get odd looks ( I know this is not 100% the case but it still happens) more often of course with guys we are not dating but still it happens which in and of itself is bad. So yes I will call out jerkness when I see it and I could care less if it upsets any of you to be called out.

presauk
presauk

@84dublicious 

Abraham Lincoln - helps eliminate slavery

MLK jr. - helps end the pseudo apartheid in America

Mahatma Ghandi - eliminates imperialism from India

All of these guys were serious boat rockers. I could probably name a dozen more

but you also have the privilege of the internet. Also tell me how you feel about the isreali-palestine conflicts... Or are you not aware that they exist because they don't affect you?

jstarscomm
jstarscomm

@84dublicious there is no need for improvement. because there is no sexist thing going on. its all in your head.

presauk
presauk

@rogerthat1945 @84dublicious


Apparently women helped design the first commerical computer in the early 1950s...

Not bad for a group of people who can't make sewing machines eh? Speaking of which can YOU design a sewing machine?

 I'll put this simply. Your lack of historical/general knowledge and tact appalls me and should do the same to anyone who's ideals aren't so antiquated as to belong in the early 1800s.., You fail to appreciate just how much privilege you have in your life. You live in a time were advancements in technology proceed at an admirable rate. How opportunities present themselves to you with very little work on your behalf. How 100s of years ago people LACKED these opportunities and how those 2 groups of people you devalue so much despite lacking these privileges you do STILL contributed more to society than you have or will ever. How well would you fare as you are a few hundred years ago when Polio, Dysentry and numerous other infectious diseases were ravaging the world... Or even better step back thousands of years into the past and lets see how well you'd fare when people were forced to hunt for food and the nomadic lifestyle was preferred?

rjdjones
rjdjones

@katiebug85 a hostile environment? Hmm. How - generally - do women tend to react to "gamers"? Is the immediate response - "ooohh, you like playing video games? That's sooo hot". Nope, it's frequently dismissed as a hobby for spotty, basement dwelling virgins. You know what so many guys do? Keep playing. Guys stick with games because they enjoy them. Why is it that girls are so ready to drop an activity that you claim they love simply due to social pressure - switching from video games to boy bands, make up and twilight type drivel? Could it possibly be that ... gasp ... there aren't a lot of girls who really love gaming?


As for entering into a workplace/environment dominated by the other sex - you're not suggesting that this kind of reaction is exclusive to males, are you? Try talking to any guy who has to work where there's a majority of women - see how they treat him.


What many successful women, and you can read this in interviews with game designers, programmers, artists etc., have found is that they do get challenged, they do meet assholes .. and then they prove themselves and get accepted for what they can do. Are you going to like everyone you work with? Is everyone going to treat you well? Of course not. It would be childish to expect this. People suck in school, in university and in the workplace. But it seems that the common whine is that if women aren't immediately made board members or given the top posts then it must simply be due to sexism. 


And as for society not wanting them to have an interest? Utter BS. So .. game companies just don't want the money from female players? Yeah, right. And as for gamers? While you will always run into guys who think women don't belong and that if they are winning they must be cheating .. there is also the fact that plenty of guys are more than happy to have female players - I've played in several teams and clans with great female players. There are also some who are far too thrilled - giving them special privileges and helping them out in things like MMORPGs in ways they wouldn't help other male players. Basically, there's a whole range of responses. Acting like there's a wave of misogyny ready to swamp any female gamer is just special princess, victim behaviour.


If you really love playing games - you play games. And these days people are bending over backwards to encourage and welcome more female gamers - but surprisingly the games that are most often played by women are things like Candy Crush and Farmville. A catchy tune and a few flashy lights or cartoon graphics seem to do amazingly well with so many women. They could be playing any other games - but these are the ones that are making the gaming companies millions from women. No-one is "making" them play these games, they are choosing them.

amillionhp
amillionhp

@presauk 

 "At no point does she even suggest that the characters have to be a lead role... Just that they be something more than a damsel in distress or a piece of eyecandy."

Look, why are we here? What is the topic of this discussion? A game developer conducted an interview where they were asked why a playable female character was not included in the game. They gave a response, to which many people have basically cried "bullshit".


This is .... beyond stupid and it definitely implies developers need to do much more than what you suggested. There is a lot that goes into the development of a game and no one knows anything about the details behind Ubisofts situation such as deadlines, work routines and so forth. So no one, especially a voice actress to an entirely different game is in position to "call Assassin Creed devs out on lies".


"Next time you declare something to be a fact have some numbers to back it up..."

No, you're right i don't have the numbers to back it up. It's just common sense.


"The same crap about how X group is not prevalent enough so we have no reason to try and be inclusive of X group. I don't see how being more inclusive would hurt anybody in the gaming community..." 


Depends on what you want and what you're accustomed to. I would think its obvious that a game or anything for that matter can not possibly cater to everyone. So yes, if it becomes more inclusive to everyone, it proportionately becomes less inclusive to particular groups of people. Again, i want to reiterate, i don't think anyone honestly believes women should not be playable or represented in a respectful manner. It just doesn't sit well when a developer is forced to explain themselves for not including a playable female. Ubisoft is not even the best example of a sexist game developer anyway.


"In real life we have numerous examples of historically significant females... Joan of Arc, Laura Secord, Harriet Tubman just to name a few."

This is about playable assassins, not just historical figures. The devs were obviously shooting for the most historical accurate possible scenarios. I don't see how those examples help make the case for playable female assassins. If the game was purely fantasy fiction, with no attempted historical accuracy, then myself and i think many others would be a lot less put off by the concept of playable female assassins. However the truth is we WERE very much a sexist society where women WERE controlled with no rights.

rogerthat1945
rogerthat1945

@presauk @rogerthat1945 @84dublicious 

1) You first paragraph is revisionist drivel. Charles Babbage was the original designer of computerization. Another unappreciated male?

2) Sewing machine? My ancestor developed the machine that ushered in the Industrial revolution that brought untold wealth to the UK, and a machine that does the work of many people that the Luddites destroyed en masse. Are you a Luddite?

3) You third paragraph is a rant with no understanding.

4) N.B.

I invented the running blade (after the Falkland war [and before the UK had Carbon Fiber]); I invented shoes that pump fresh air between your toes as you walk along (Clarks & Gola Lamb got copies in 1985); More recently, I invented smartphone screens for Vehicle A-pillars (sides of windscreens) so that all drivers have a full field of vision while driving. I have been in contact with many vehicle companies about that one for many years. 

I have maybe a hundred others; some with military applications; others with energy applications; others just for trapping insects more efficiently.

P.S. I did have two women ask me how to have a baby cup not leak milk/juice some decades ago (their idea with no engineering solution); and gave them the split rubber idea for free. They got rich; I never heard from the ungrateful women again.