Steam, Next Gen Consoles, and The Importance of a Good Story: Predictions for 2013

Will we finally see Half-Life 3? What will the next Xbox be called? Red Robot Labs' John Davison tells us what to expect in the coming year for gaming.

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The forces that make the business of videogames so exciting have always been chaotic. We're not only in the middle of a platform and business, but also an upheaval of audience expectations, and game distribution. The entire space has seen a huge power shift, with the audience more empowered than ever to affect the future of its entertainment. Making accurate predictions for 2013 is probably harder to do than in any prior year, so here are some conversation starters for you.

Steam Box To Make Life Difficult for Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo

The battle for living room dominance is going to get freaky in 2013, and while Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are certainly in the fight, they're no longer assured victory. While rumors persist of some kind of Apple TV box that will spit increasingly impressive iOS titles like Real Racing 3 or Arc Squadron onto your TV, and a variety of Android derivatives like the $99 indie darling Ouya, and the recently Kickstarted GameStick will make gaming cheaper and potentially more accessible, the 800-pound-gorilla that stands to disrupt everything is the long-rumored and recently confirmed Steam Box. Previewed as Steam's "Big Picture" TV interface mode, and described by Valve boss Gabe Newell as "a very controlled environment," the platform could bring the kind of discipline and structure to the PC games space that Microsoft has so frequently failed to bring with its numerous half-assed attempts at supporting Games for Windows.

While cynics may dismiss the concept as little more than a 21st century variant of Trip Hawkins' ill-conceived 3DO dream, the difference with the Steam Box concept is that it's fundamentally an open platform. Any PC manufacturer can get in on the act, but the infrastructure that Steam provides will bind everything together. It has the potential to change the whole games market, and most importantly, studios will be able to put games onto your TV without having to jump through the typical platform-holder hoops imposed by Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo. To many, "Steam" and "PC gaming" are already interchangeable terms, and with the launch of this next initiative, Valve will further seize control of the platform.

Skipping The Middleman and the Rise of the Super Indie

2012 saw a marked shift toward game creators having a much more direct relationship with their audience, and that trend will continue in 2013. As the fruits of last year's Kickstarter binge start to see the light of day, we'll finally have proof that serving audience desires directly is the way ahead. For years, studios have sat on ideas that they believe in but which big publishers weren't prepared to take a risk on. Conversely, gamers have been decrying the shift away from some of the genres that they love dearly. By connecting directly and moving away from the model that relies on the conservatism of traditional publishers, marketers, and retailers, we'll see more and more creative risks being taken.

Kickstarter isn't the be-all, end-all solution, though. Emboldened by successes like Riot Games' League of Legends, Adhesive Games' Hawken, and Mojang's Minecraft,a new development space will emerge. As the "B-level" (for want of a better term) goes away, it will be fully replaced by a far healthier and more audience-focused alternative; the "super indie." Rather than being driven by the need to bang out more and more $60 packaged products to achieve their business needs, this new type of studio is more directly tied to audience appetites, and is able to build strong fan cultures and strong business cases around fewer, deeply appreciated experiences. Digitally distributed, tightly focused, driven by in-game transaction economies, and iterated on regularly, the new games created by these studios will complement the continued resurgence of the PC platform, the Steam Box, and tablet gaming.

Source 2 and Half-Life 3, Maybe

After so long, it almost seems ridiculous to even mention Half-Life 3 in a predictions piece, but what the hell--let's think this one all the way through. We know that Steam Box is coming, and Valve needs a symbolic game to lead the charge for its new world order. We also know that a next-generation variant of the Source engine has been in development for a while, and is nearing a point where its ready to be unleashed on the world. What better combination than Half-Life 3 as a showcase for both the Steam hardware initiative and Valve's new engine tech? Yes, it's idealistic wishful thinking, and yes, you're probably right if your immediate reaction is "that would be very nice, but it seems unlikely," but if 2013 is really going to be Valve's big year as it would appear, the timing is better than it ever has been. Valve marches to the beat of its own drum, so file this one under "it's nice to want things."

Next Xbox is Called…Xbox

Remember when "Xbox 720" was just a silly joke that we all used as a way to refer to the next-generation platform? Over the past few years it has become the most popular search term associated with Microsoft's next console, yet it's also the last thing that the company is likely to call it. The term "360" was a way to represent the holistic nature of the platform and its ability to surround the player with entertainment, so using "720" would just be dumb. It surrounds you, what…twice? Microsoft has been keen to establish "Xbox" as the umbrella brand for its overall gaming service of late (letting "Live" take a back seat), integrating the brand into both the Windows 8 and Windows Mobile ecosystems. For the next-generation, expect Microsoft to continue with this behavior and see "Xbox" as a similar brand to "Surface" - a tag that represents a purpose more than a single product.

In the past, Microsoft's Xbox group has used its E3 press conferences as its primary global announcement platform. This year expect it to behave differently. Surface got its own Apple-style show-and-tell event last October, and it's safe to assume that the new Xbox get a similar treatment in the first half of this year. Expect a reveal ahead of E3, with hints at games that will later be shown at the Electronic Entertainment Expo in June.

Xbox Surface By The Summer

Last year's predictions proclaimed that the next Xbox would be tablet-based. "The core of the new platform will be akin to a tablet PC that wirelessly connects to a base station, which in turn plugs into your TV. If this is the case, a premium Xbox Next setup could feasibly include a base station, a tablet, a conventional controller of some kind, and the recently discussed high-def evolution of the Kinect," we said. That very well may still be the case for the next-generation Xbox (above), but it seems highly likely that Microsoft will also push the existing Xbox 360 technology into tablet territory. An "Xbox Tablet" was rumored back in November, and sources seem fairly convinced of its viability. With "Xbox" as the name for the overall games strategy at Microsoft rather than the name of a specific box, an "Xbox" variant of Surface makes a lot of sense as a gaming-focused device. Given the age of the 360 technology, something capable of replicating the capabilities of a 3.2GHz tri-core Xenon processor, along with its 500MHz ATI Xenos graphics chip, is well within the realms of possibility for a mobile device.

There are already chipsets that could be squeezed into a tablet that are more than up to the task. A $400 Xbox Surface would prolong the life of the existing 360 base, and provide an interesting and unique approach to a mobile strategy for Microsoft. If would necessitate providing sufficient on-board storage for games that clock in at multiple gigabytes, and a willingness to push digital distribution of 360 games much more aggressively. To fully establish such a device as the ultimate gaming tablet, this would need to be much more than a casual game box with an Xbox sticker on it. If Microsoft really wants to shake up the market, it needs to replicate full 360 functionality in a 10-inch tablet, and support wireless controllers so that we can play Halo 4 with sticks and triggers just as effectively as we can play Bejeweled Blitz by touching the screen.

Tablets Come of Age 

On the same subject, this will be the year that we see the capabilities of both Android and iOS tablets match current generation consoles in a far more obvious way, too. We'll also see prices continue to drop for both 7" and 10" devices. Consequently, we'll see more games developed that offer experiences that compare favorably to PC and console games across a wide variety of genres. With easy ways to connect industry standard controllers, plus the bonus capability of plugging into an HDTV either wirelessly or through HDMI, we'll no doubt look back on 2013 as the year we were able to take console-caliber games anywhere we want.

Next PlayStation is Called…PlayStation 4

There was a time where we were led to believe that it would be called PlayStation Orbis, and there was a rumor circulating at the tail end of last year that this might be changed to the thoroughly bland Omni, dropping the PlayStation prefix all together. While sources have been increasingly insistent that the company is intent on dropping the numbered nomenclature for the next iteration, let's stick our necks out right now and predict that the PlayStation 4 will actually be called PlayStation 4. As it should be.

Current (believable) speculation suggests that the next PlayStation's capabilities are comparable to the hardware powering the tech demos we've seen of Unreal Engine 4 and Frostbite 2 over the past year, but there are also zanier rumors of Google Glass-like head-mounted displays designed to bring 3D visuals to any screen, and augmented-reality experiences that are supplemented by a Dual Shock/Move hybrid controller. Regardless, expect Sony to go big on the new box at E3, with a spectacular unveil on the morning of June 11.

Vita Repackaged, Price Reduced. Sanity Prevails

The interesting thing about the Vita is that it inspires such passion from the few that have chosen to buy one. Forums are full of comments that start "I know it's fashionable to bash the Vita, but…" followed by effusive defense of its purity and excellence. There's no denying that on paper it's exactly what gamers should be clamoring for. Unfortunately, in reality it's overpriced, and ably demonstrates many of the ways in which Sony has lost touch with its audience. As a result, very few studios are choosing to take the expensive risk of developing for it, and it's suffering as a result.

Here's what should happen: At some point in the first half of 2013 Sony should repackage the device, and bundle the WiFi version with a game voucher and a 16GB stick for $199. This will put it on more of an equal footing in terms of value with the likes of a Nexus 7 tablet. At the same time, it should double down on its digital distribution strategy and renew its commitment to fill the PSN store with back-catalog titles that will run on Vita.

Here's what probably will happen: Sony will keep banging out bundles with different games and a 4GB stick for prices between $249 and $299, claiming that each represents "huge savings." Sales numbers will slow to even more of a crawl, and by the end of 2013, the only studios still considering developing new titles are those owned by Sony, and even they will openly complain about it.

The Return of Good Stories

Narrative is hot again, and the episodic format has finally proven itself thanks to Telltale's The Walking Dead. In 2013 we'll see renewed confidence in placing much-needed investment in good writing and engaging with talent that understands how to move the audience. Gone are the days of just hiring someone who once wrote the 27th draft of the dialog for some crappy C-level action movie, and instead we'll see more writers that fully appreciate the medium and understand what gamers crave. A year from now we'll be talking about truly great narrative moments and have trouble picking which one we loved the most.

The MOBA Influence Goes Nuts

The huge power and influence of the Multiplayer Online Battle Arena genre is now well past the point where any sane individual can deny it. League of Legends continues to blow our minds with its crazy gameplay stats, and Dota 2 just keeps on getting better and better. People love this stuff, and throughout 2013 we're going to see more and more studios "borrow" ideas from MOBA games and mash them into other genres. We've already seen the idea blended nicely with a 2D platformer in Awesomenauts, and in March we'll see how it can reshape the shooter with the new multi-lane OverRun mode in Gears of War Judgment. Like it or not, multiplayer games are changing, and this is what will be at the heart of it.

League of Legends on More Platforms

On the subject of MOBAs, 2013 will be the year that League of Legends breaks out of being a PC-only title and finds its way to other platforms. A Mac version has been teased forever (to the point that it's pretty much a joke in the game's community), but should finally arrive in the first half of the year. It's if and when the game moves to consoles and tablets, however, that things will get really interesting. Gameloft has already proven the genre can work well on a tablet with the great LoL-wannabe Heroes of Order & Chaos, but fans want the real thing, and if they can have it with them at all times, that certainly wouldn't be bad. Expect some big moves this year, and for the already huge audience for the game to get even…hugerer.

eSports, eSports, eSports

First of all, someone will come up with an all-encompassing term for eSports that everyone concerned will actually accept and not complain about. The term "eSports" is sniggered at by many, and "Competitive Gaming" is too dry… there needs to be something that adequately describes the space to everyone's satisfaction. Before that, though, we can expect the whole space to blow up in popularity even more than we saw in 2012. Not only will viewership numbers continue to increase, but we'll see more games created with the eSports space in mind. Structured tournament modes and integrated league rankings profiles will make organization of competitive play easier, but we'll also see a big push around broadcast systems, smarter in-game camera systems, and easier livestreaming that will allow players to push footage right from the game. We'll also see more collaboration between leagues, and greater celebrity status for the big name players.

Square-Enix Finally Will Do Something With Final Fantasy VII

Let's get really wild and crazy to bring this thing home. Here we go… 2013 will be the year that Square-Enix finally stops messing around with Final Fantasy VII teases, and actually does something significant with it. At the very least, we'll see a mobile and tablet port of the game this year, no doubt exorbitantly priced compared to other similar titles. Don't hold your breath for the reboot, but the time has come for the original to be re-released.

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Discussion

695 comments
Thuganomic05
Thuganomic05

I'm hoping these predictions are just that... predictions.. Microsoft surely wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot with a tablet release. That's not a console... and I would refuse to buy one.

Just because all technology is gearing towards handheld, does not mean video games do. 

killersrike
killersrike

"Half-Life 2 Ep. 3, maybe" Breaks my heart every time I see this :"(

BlackBaldwin
BlackBaldwin

this article was rubbish can't believe I read it.  I get tired of hearing the same ol guessing I want hardline news about the industry not darn predictions...

Legend002
Legend002

Xbox  720 is going be just called the Xbox.

slainta
slainta

Ha!! Final.. Final.. Final Fantasy VII REMAKE!! I wish. SE is not even able to complete FF vs XIII. Actually... not even FF X HD!!! And you hope that SE will unveil a remake of FF VII this year? For the crappy tablets? Or you meant just a port keeping the graphics of the PSone?

AU_gundam
AU_gundam

Vita price cut was already mentioned by heads of Sony. What would matter more is the games. Japanese studios could make the difference for the Vita's Japanese fortunes and Vita sales continue to improve, however so slightly.


Next gen? All with a grain of salt. Won't believe a thing till either Sony and Microsoft begin hinting to and discussing their respective new offerings?

NARUtotheFISH
NARUtotheFISH

MICROSOFT ! KEEP YOUR DAMN CONTROLLER. DON’T REPLACE IT WITH GARBAGE

OB_Shah
OB_Shah

hey about the PS4 he said this

Google Glass-like head-mounted displays designed to bring 3D visuals to any
screen, and augmented-reality experiences .

what do they mean by it i know a little bit about google glass but will they be HD too and werent they like 1500$ 

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puppybone
puppybone

You forgot "Even fewer games worth buying will be released on discs in the US market." Sure, we'll get tons more of the usual FPS crap, and of course tons more RPG's and RTS as well, but there will only be a small handful of games in other genres, and most of those will be released via the "download it on Steam or forget it" routine that's been forcing me to import European PC games just to get a freaking disc that directs me to a Steam download! Call me old fashioned, but if I can't display it on a shelf, it isn't worth owning. Some of us still collect video games as a hobby, and a bunch of little icons displayed on a hard drive just doesn't give the same sense of pride in ownership as wall-to-wall-floor-to-ceiling shelves of thousands of games in boxes do. Nobody looks at a ton of icons on your computer screen and is immediately impressed because they know you actually bought them all, they just assume that they're all pirated, and want to know the URL for whatever site you used to download them all!

dralutfi
dralutfi

some of these news is good and some is bad ...... FGS whats good in releasing PS4 ????? ....... i think its not the time for releasing ps4 .... anyone agree ???

MCPO_John_117
MCPO_John_117

Tablet controller for the next Xbox? Why? Why ruin something as good as the standard controller by replacing it with a tablet?

USAPATRIOT21
USAPATRIOT21

Let's not give Apple too much credit for their subpar game apps they've been creating. If anything, their game apps are getting worse. They started out with infinity blade, angry birds, and make an interesting port of world of goo. Since then, they haven't really done much except make more angry birds and port some of the smaller console games to ios devices (Walking dead, bastion, etc.)

Freboy
Freboy

I reeeeeeally hope this all comes true. Sure, it's not all positive, but overall I think this article paints a very positive image of the year to come.

Victorious_Fize
Victorious_Fize

Good stuff.

- eSports, eSports, eSports -

Will continue to progress, but not too much. EVO have been around for over a decade, not much changed aside from growth and increased communication. It's just branching and rubbing off on other, even more popular, games and genres these days. And you guys are just beginning to notice that and giving investment of your journalism to, so as to be one of the first to do it.

 

- Square-Enix Finally Will Do Something With Final Fantasy VII -

Yes please!

 

- League of Legends on More Platforms -

LoL utilizing it's growth and success, nothing to look for, except for the fans.

 

- The MOBA Influence Goes Nuts -

MOBA are going wild, that's for sure, but it's nothing to keep an eye on, IMO. From what I've seen, MOBA players are a species of their own and usually don't play a lot of other games to represent an influence.

 

- The Return of Good Stories -

About damn time!

 

- Vita Repackaged, Price Reduced. Sanity Prevails -

I'm optimistic that Sony will do the "should", the only reason they'll use the worst case scenario is when they're really really broke, and they're not on that level yet. Sony has it right when it comes to consoles, they know that the power of their consoles come from core games, exclusives, and the rest just follows.

 

I've also heard that they're aware of their standing with 3rd party publishers and that they have a planned project of overseeing the release of well above 60 games within the span of the upcoming year.

Have high hopes for the Vita. Even though it's fashionable to bash. :P

 

- Next PlayStation is Called…PlayStation 4 -

Duh, and it'll be the best thing ever. Just so long it follows the steps of PS2. Lots of games, affordable pricing, and a catch-all-tent with a lean for serious gaming, and you'll have the winner of the next gen, easily.

 

- Tablets Come of Age -

Industry still too small. Not gonna happen (seriously, at least).

 

- Xbox Surface By The Summer Next Xbox is Called…Xbox -

Good point about the naming... I always knew something didn't sound right with 720. :P

 

- Source 2 and Half-Life 3, Maybe 

PC stuff, I only care about TW and M&B right now.

 

- Skipping The Middleman and the Rise of the Super Indie -

Indie stuff are a great way to counterweight those that think they own the industry and try to monopolize it. I think people are making a stand and it'll all stabilize into a balanced standard of visible differences in games made by real companies with a team of employees and independent studios with time.

 

- Steam Box To Make Life Difficult for Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo -

Seems like it, but they Steam Box won't attract a lot of share. It strikes me as empowering PC gamers and converts more than anything else.

 

All in all, I'm eyeing on sequels of particular games, and how Sony in specific will handle its next vital steps.

MultiJhonny
MultiJhonny

i hope that we finally see a ton of news and maybe even a release date for Final Fantasy Versus Xiii... i could care less what they do with VII even though i love it.. it gets too much attention

Kayweg
Kayweg

Asking again....Show us the 2012 predictions here so we can compare the "hits" and "misses" of those ;)

ferrarimanf355
ferrarimanf355

Still hoping that Sega re-releases Daytona USA 2 onto XBLA and PSN. 

 

Also, Project CARS is going to be the best game of 2013. Calling it.

gamingnerd121
gamingnerd121

Half Life 3 would need something really, really interesting to continue with. Many games have released since HL2, so they're kinda forced to try something new.

sun_spirit
sun_spirit

It won't be called The Playstation 4. I've heard the in japan "four" is another word for "death" so, doubtful.

Besides, it's just boring. They've done 3 now, it wouldn't be right to not name the next one it's own thing.

Johny_47
Johny_47

If steam box makes it harder for the 3 main companies I think it'll be a good thing, more competition usually means better(lower) prices =P

 

Games or consoles. I'm looking forward to seeing the new source engine, the one that left 4 dead, portal and so on uses is really nice and smooth but started to look a bit old a while ago because of things like CryEngine and Frostbite.

 

I just can't wait to see what happens, especially looking forward to GTA V.

Taffelost
Taffelost

Microsoft has finally been ignoring the PC for too long for the sake of selling more X-Box units. Now they're in danger of loosing the platform entirely. I believe a substantial amount of windows OS' are sold to hardcore gamers, consumers who wouldn't bother with the latest OS if it weren't for games. If Steam makes a new OS based on Linux which will run all the PC games flawless then MS is in serious trouble. Serves MS right too in my opinion. That's what you get for ignoring us PC gamers for so long.

 

It all started back in the day when MS bought up the studio developing Halo, told them to redo it as an xbox exclusive. That's when it all started. MS has forgotten that PC-games has been the driving force when it comes to people upgrading their OS. If you're not playing games you might just as well use Windows Vista or even XP. I hope we get a Linux alternative. Why stop there; I hope we get an Android alternative too!

Metal_Jaws
Metal_Jaws

If the Steam box has the full version of Dungeon Defenders...then that is veeeeeery tempting.... I still think it is too soon for the nex consoles though. The PS3 is not tapped out yet by any means. I feel like a lemon being juiced for cash. Sell me more games I want, and I will buy them up. You do not need a new console to do that. A new console will completely alienate me from that platform though, so no new $$$ for you. But what really matters most to me, is that my trophies from the PS3 better carry over to the PS4, or screw that.

 

 

And seriously...why the hell has the FF7 remake not been on the table, and where the hell is FFvs13? Squinix Facepalm in 2012.

godzillavskong
godzillavskong

@Thuganomic05 I agree. I enjoy my iPad , but more so for net browsing. If the tablet is incorporated like the WiiU then that wouldn't be too bad, but not a full-fledged tablet based console.

drgribb
drgribb

@puppybone EXACTLY.  So tired of this digital distribution ish for EVERYTHING.


It's so rare to find someone else who feels similarly to how I do about this.  Thanks!

Leefx
Leefx

@puppybone I'm a console gamer but I'm with you 100% on that one, I don't want digital copies.  I want to display my collection with pride....

Leefx
Leefx

@dralutfi I thought they hadn't even tapped all the power or all the processors in the PS3 yet? or at least game developers are not bothering to, why are so many PS3 titles still in 720p for example? all titles should be 1080p by now surely, it certainly appears that a lot more of them are on 360, PC gamers dont need to worry about that of course, but I aint bloody got one!

Jedilink109
Jedilink109

 @USAPATRIOT21 They don't create games...AT ALL.  What are you talking about?

 

Developers make games for their products.  As for the games for ipad that ARE good ones.  There's tons of great games for ipad.  There's Max Payne, GTA 3, GTA Vice City, NOVA 3, Modern Combat 3 and 4, Bastion, Ravensword 2, Minecraft, Dead Space, Need For Speed Most Wanted, Marathon 1-3, Prince Of Persia: Warrior Within, Sonic 4 (episode 1 and 2), Sim City, The Sims, Wolfenstein, 9mm, Wild Blood, Street Fighter x Tekken, Sonic CD, Shadowgun, Dead Trigger, Superbrothers, Real Racing 2, Plants Vs Zombies, Mass Effect Infiltrator, Metal Slug 1 and 3, Mega Man X, Machinarium, Lili, Final Fantasy Tactics: War Of The Lions,Coaster Crazy, Across Age, Another World, Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, The Bard's Tale, Beat Hazard Ultra, Doom. And so on.  Need I continue?  These are only games that I personally have, so there's probably tons more I didn't mention.

Roobyjohnson
Roobyjohnson

@Victorious_Fize As a PC gamer, I'm not too sold on the Steam Box making any real dent on the console front either. I think it's actually a great machine to consider before upgrading my desktop, but because it's an open platform, it's honestly just another computer in of itself. Considering that it will be Linux-based, I can't help but think it'll run into compatibility issues with a large amount of 3rd party games, rendering the whole thing pointless.

moc5
moc5

 @Victorious_Fize Is there anyway that you could elaborate on your comment?  Maybe itemize each issue and possibly answer even questions that the guy that wrote the article didnt ask? ;P  Sorry, there is a smart arse in every crowd.  Your very thorough. :)

sean_ftd
sean_ftd

 @ferrarimanf355

 Maybe Sega should just restart making consoles, they werent as bad they they were billed to be.

TibLion
TibLion

@sun_spirit  Of course it won't be called The PlayStation 4. It will be called PlayStation 4, lol.

sean_ftd
sean_ftd

 @sun_spirit

 so in japan they use thre own version of the number 4, simple, ps1 ps2 ps3, why would they change it now.

sean_ftd
sean_ftd

 @sun_spirit

 so im japan they use thre own version of th number 4, simple, ps1 ps2 ps3, why would they change it now.

moc5
moc5

 @Johny_47 if GTA franchise mated with Saints Sow franchise then we would get the GTA 5 that we all deserve.

Biggs613
Biggs613

 @Johny_47 Yeah, GTAV definitely and anything Kojima is working on, lol. Not sure if we'll see a Kojima game in this year (Ground Zeroes is listed as Dec. 31, 2013), but a guy can dream!

5529319
5529319

 @Taffelost You probably meant "use XP or even Vista" :p. Other than that, I totally agree.

Victorious_Fize
Victorious_Fize

@moc5 @Victorious_Fize Oh I'm just addressing the predictions in my outlook as a gamer my friend. Sorry if it seemed long, but the article was kinda long too haha.

Thanks a lot for the interest though!

Johny_47
Johny_47

 @moc5 I couldn't disagree more strongly, they're two different games for a reason, and I'm not going to get into some dull argument over which is better either because I've always had and always will have my personal favourite... and it's not saints row =P

Johny_47
Johny_47

 @Biggs613 Yeah, dreams are the best =)

 

I love the look of Ground Zero's, one of the best looking games at E3, my friend is a massive fan of the metal gear games and he thinks that game is probably gonna be for the next consoles and PC. I'm not sure about this though because I said it's probably gonna be one of the last good games before the next consoles come out.

 

And @Serpentes420 rising is just a crappy game like bayonetta in my opinion so I doubt Hideo Kojima had much at all to do with that.

moc5
moc5

@5529319 @Taffelost lol!  That was a slam on vista for those who went, 'Huh?"  And a well deserved slam I must say.

moc5
moc5

@Johny_47 well now, just to clarify, I am much more a fan of GTA.  I am specifically referring to the attrition type game play (buying properties/pushing out rival gangs) and a more meaningful/rewarding feeling of 'growing in power' over time.  That said, GTA is the best of the two by far.  I think we probably agree for the most part.

Johny_47
Johny_47

Your in the minority, but thanks =)

 

I got replies very similar to yours before on anothe topic and youtube, once it was a 'fanboy' of saints row... you can probably guess where it went =/

moc5
moc5

 @Johny_47 Why would I argue over personal taste?  I respect your opinion.  I was just giving mine, mate.

Biggs613
Biggs613

 @Johny_47  @Serpentes420 Metal Gear Rising appears to be a hack 'n slash action adventure game set in the Metal Gear universe, and I believe is being worked on by both Kojima Productions and PlatinumGames, but I don't think Kojima is actually involved hands on himself, other than being a supervisor. I'll prolly still play it, but it is def not going to be traditional Metal Gear.